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Max Baucus, senator of K street, is about to stick it to us again.  Remember how he and Harry Reid handled health care reform?  While Harry was out telling the base that a public option was on the table, it never was, Max was dragging the process out into a painful and tortuous process that gave the Repugs plenty of time to attack and misinform, while also giving the Insurance companies plenty of time to make sure they got everything they wanted.  All under the cover of trying to get Olympia Snow and Joe Lieberman to support the legislation.

This is how the Republican lite Blue Dogs do sooooo much damage to the Democratic party.  Look at all the "they're all the same" diaries that appear here on DailyKos and get recd to the rec list.  Because of a few Blue Dogs, people throughout the country paint all the Dems and Repugs with the same brush.

Let's take a look at what the NYT is saying about the Baucus tax lobby connection.


At least 28 aides who have worked for Mr. Baucus, Democrat of Montana, since he became the committee chairman in 2001 have lobbied on tax issues during the Obama administration — more than any other current member of Congress, according to the analysis of lobbying filings performed for The New York Times.


Like Ms. Baker, many of those lobbyists have already saved their clients millions — in some cases, billions — of dollars after Mr. Baucus backed their requests to extend certain corporate tax perks, provisions that were adopted as part of the so-called fiscal cliff legislation in January. Baucus aides who later became lobbyists helped financial firms save $11.2 billion in tax deferments and helped secure a $222 million tax benefit that is shared with the liquor industry.


But he often bucks his party’s leadership. Last month, for example, he voted against the Democrats’ budget proposal for 2014, which included nearly $1 trillion in new revenues. He also favored the Bush administration’s tax cuts in 2001 for Americans including the wealthy, putting him at odds with many Democrats.


Several of the lobbyists regularly fly to Big Sky, Mont., for weekend fund-raising retreats that Mr. Baucus hosts, or attend more intimate events in Washington like a gathering last month near the Capitol, where Paul Wilkins, Mr. Baucus’s chief of staff, talked about the millions of dollars Mr. Baucus will need to raise for his re-election campaign next year.


 Last year, he introduced a plan — most of which was eventually passed into law as part of the fiscal cliff deal in January — that contained more than a dozen tax breaks, some of them pushed by clients who had retained Washington lobbying firms that employ his former aides or political advisers.Shannon Finley, who served as a political consultant and fund-raiser for Mr. Baucus before joining a lobbying firm in Washington, was hired in late 2011 by Beam, the liquor industry giant, to protect a federal tax break that it gets a cut of for producing its Cruzan rum in the United States Virgin Islands.


With a debate on rewriting the tax code to streamline and simplify it expected to start this year — leaders in both the House and the Senate are working on their own drafts — lobbying could reach levels like that of the 2009 debate over health care, which also was overseen in part by the Senate Finance Committee, with Mr. Baucus at the gavel. His staff is already hosting meetings with industry lobbyists, academics and outside parties to get advice on the tax package that the Senate Finance Committee is trying to create.

So President Obama is going to propose a budget that does some damage to Social Security and Medicare, in trade for closing tax loop-holes for corporations and the rich.  Any effort to achieve those goals will have to go through the senate finance committee, who's chair is Max Baucus.  Now how do you think that's going to end up?

What the hell is going through Obama's head?  Why is he putting his neck, and the Democratic parties neck, on the line with cuts in Social Security and Medicare, for a change in tax policy that has absolutely NO chance of getting through the corrupt hands of Max Baucus?  President Obama is heading for a legacy of a weak, inept negotiating president who would rather win a compromise that is wrong, than lose a fight that is right.

It's time for US to start pushing the 75% of Democratic senators who want to do the right thing but are afraid to stand up to the Dem leadership, and get them to revolt against the Dem leadership and demand an end to the corruption that they are going to get blamed for.  We saw some effort with filibuster reform, but Harry Reid crushed them and sent them curled up in the fetal position in the corner.  Our Dem senators need to understand that the best path to reelection will be to stand up against the corruption in the party, and stand up for reforming the senate so it represents more of the public and less corporations.

The Tea Party, rather the Oligarchs that manipulate them, made big changes in the Republican party.  We Dems need a revolution in our party, and it has to start with junior senators who will rise up and fight against their own corrupt leadership!

Originally posted to pollwatcher on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 06:37 AM PDT.

Also republished by Social Security Defenders.

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  •  bingo: (14+ / 0-)
    President Obama is heading for a legacy of a weak, inept negotiating president who would rather win a compromise that is wrong, than lose a fight that is right.
    Approaching Greek Tragedy  status.  Very sad to watch.

    don't always believe what you think

    by claude on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 06:51:10 AM PDT

  •  asdf (7+ / 0-)
    What the hell is going through Obama's head?  Why is he putting his neck, and the Democratic parties neck, on the line with cuts in Social Security and Medicare, for a change in tax policy that has absolutely NO chance of getting through the corrupt hands of Max Baucus?
    Try Occam's razor.  He really wants the cuts, and doesn't want the taxes.  And he's just reprising his strategy with the public option,  sending it to Baucus to die.
    •  I often thought (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      fungiblechattel, shaharazade

      that with the help of Blue Dogs, the election of 2010 was outright thrown.

      Fool me once and all that...

      It is time to #Occupy Media.

      by lunachickie on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 08:11:18 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I can't buy it (0+ / 0-)

      I think Obama is one of the good guys, but he isn't the fighter we need for times like these.

      Senator George Mitchell from Maine said something very interesting the other night.  He said the number one problem with many politicians is that they are so isolated from the real America and people, especially the President.  Usually the presidents advisers will tell him whatever they think he wants to hear.

      Obama thought he was going to be a combination of Lincoln and FDR and surrounded himself with people he thought could expose the inside game, and instead they captured him.  He thinks he needs to be in the middle.  But he doesn't realize he's chosen the middle between the complete insanity of the wing nuts, and the reasoned, fact based positions of the left.

      When George Bush was appointed president, Dan Quayle's wife said, you're about to get what you thought Dan Quayle was.  I'm afraid Obama is heading to be what everyone falsely accused Jimmy Carter of being.

  •  Just another day (13+ / 0-)

    in the life of the rotating cast of villains. This whole scenario falls in line with the Healthcare debate where we had to lobby Lieberman for his vote for lowering the medicare age to 55 after it was included in the progressive caucus's budget. The catch? He was one of the original senators that had proposed it..but then objected because it came from a liberal source.

    If Obama didn't want any of this to happen then he would have pushed hard on Reid to change the Senate rules of the Filibuster. The President is instead content to yell into the wind and point his finger at republican obstruction. His second term ended before it began and he has done nothing except convince me this is exactly what he wanted.

    Since when does Social Security add to the deficit?

    Since when does raising the Medicare age requirement save money?

    Since when does deficit reduction during an economic depression lead to GPD and job growth?

    Le sigh...2014 is going to be a freaking shit show..

    One does not trade cuts to social security for anything. Especially not to be traded to close simple tax loop holes that can be reopened when the opposite party decides to bury it in some appropriations bill..


    President Obama would have been a republican in the 1980's & 1990's. Go figure.

    by Tool on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 07:46:30 AM PDT

    •  Chained CPI reduces the defict, not thru SS (4+ / 0-)
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      radmul, Tool, shaharazade, Mr Robert

      IF the Government adopts Chained CPI Fed poverty level will be adjusted by Chained CPI as well as income tax brackets.

      Chained CPI cuts EITC, WIC, SNAP, low income energy assistance, School breakfast and lunch programs, prescription drug coverage, aids drugs and will cause bracket creep on income taxes.

      65 billion over 10 years in tax increases, cuts to these programs totaling 100's of billions thru the decade.

      BTW Tool, I need writers for next week (starting April 8th)
      to push back on this so called grand Bargain and the chained CPI. If you like I will send you an invite to the group.... ?

      ...... Social Security blogathon March 25th thru March 29th. #HandsOffmySS FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 09:48:52 AM PDT

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  •  The obvious answer (9+ / 0-)

    is to primary his fucking ass.  There's a certain well liked populist former governor in Montana who would be light years better than Baucus.

    This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

    by DisNoir36 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 08:22:03 AM PDT

  •  Why can't we "excommunicate" those who are Dems (5+ / 0-)

    in name only? Baucus is a prime example, but so was Joe Lierberman.

    If all they are are shills for K Street, perhaps their membership in the Democratic Party should be rescinded and they should run as Independents.

    All they do is taint the name of the Democratic Party.

    •  they need (0+ / 0-)

      to start their own party they could call it The Third Way Party. Why doesn't the useless Progress Caucus stop falling in line with the ant-democratic disaster cappie Rubanite's including Obama who now own and run the party? Even Howard Dean knuckles under when push comes to shove. Sad thing is the New Dems are actually more effective at implementing the destruction of both our representative system and the checks and balances that used to at least keep these powerful bastards from totally destroying out government and society. No to mention their mad 'inevitable NWO that is so creepy and anti human it needs to fail and fail big.  

  •  There are a number of us here in Montana (6+ / 0-)

    who feel that Max has abandoned the Democratic party and the progressive ideas that initially got him elected. He seems to be more of a Republican conservative who represents not the people of Montana, but corporate interests.

  •  Politics can be disturbing to follow (0+ / 0-)

    For now Max is the most electable Dem to fill his position in MT. It's him or a Republican. Schweitzer hasn't shown any indications he wants to run.

    How big is your personal carbon footprint?

    by ban nock on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 09:06:39 AM PDT

    •  But is it worth it? (0+ / 0-)

      Almost any Dem is better if we need them to hold control of the Senate.  Next election cycle is going to be tough, so we might have to bite the bullet, a good primary opponent can make a lot of quick progress in a state like Montana.

  •  asdf (6+ / 0-)
    While Harry was out telling the base that a public option was on the table, it never was,
    This was as much due to Reid as Baacus. The health industry represents one of Reid's two biggest donor bases. He could have got PO through by either forcing a vote or using procedure but refused to.
  •  A corrupt Democratic Senator? (0+ / 0-)

    Goodness gracious!. My stars! Heavens to Betsy!

    No-one could have imagined..

    It'd probably be easier to count the number of our "representatives" who aren't beholden to one "special interest" or another.

    How do you stop someone who will stop at nothing?

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 11:05:24 AM PDT

  •  just respond: NO (1+ / 0-)
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    Mr Robert

      I'm guessing that many here get the same request for donations that I do.   When I receive such a request, there is always a choice:  Ignore it, donate, or reply.
       I take a moment and actually reply - and tell the campaign why I won't back them as a candidate.   Some actually take the time to reply.
        We can all complain - but by taking the time to reply at least makes it should make them make a conscious choice to continue to lose public support on their decision.  
         It may not change their decision, but it is better than just saying nothing, IMO.

  •  No, its worse than that. (0+ / 0-)

    The problem is, there ARE already way too many conservative Dems in the Party, and even if we try to elect "more and better Dems", they WILL either be conserva-Blue Dog Dems from Red districts, or they will lose against a Republican challenger.

    It is impossible to elect 'more and better liberal/progressive Dems', when Red districts outnumber Blue districts in the House. It was bad before, and gerrymandering has made it worse, never mild the fact that the Dem party has soaked up moderate conservatives who became scared of the increasingly radical GOP like a sponge over the last decade

     I don't know why this is so hard to see and understand, but liberals / progressives are clearly in denial that their party has already been long gone since decades, while they laugh at the GOP being in disarray.

    •  *never mind the fact (0+ / 0-)
    •  Fact: (0+ / 0-)

      until the Democrats are able to retain the House for more than 2 years under a Democratic President, the Democrats will continue to be Republican Lite.

      The Democrats havent been able to hold on to the so-called People's House for more than 2 years under a Democratic President in 33 years.

      Why would the Democratic Party fight for liberal/progressive causes, when their grip on the 'Peoples House' that is constitutionally authorized on  taxtation and spending has been so flimsy in the last 33 years?

      Let that sink for a minute.

      •  because people agree with liberals (0+ / 0-)

        even in the purple districts, when you ask people about the issues, they agree with the Dems, and despise what the Repugs are doing.  We can hold on to some of those districts, but we desperately need voter reform to prevent gerrymandering and voter suppression.

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