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Kent State.

Jeffrey Glenn Miller, 20
Allison B. Krause, 19
William Knox Schroeder,19
Sandra Lee Scheuer,20


This event is what changed everything, for me, at least...

Rock on.

Originally posted to EdMass on Sat May 04, 2013 at 01:13 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (15+ / 0-)

    "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

    by EdMass on Sat May 04, 2013 at 01:13:06 PM PDT

  •  I was only a month shy of turning 8 when (3+ / 0-)
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    this happened. I remember my dad, a Vietnam vet who came home totally opposed to the war, trying to explain this tragedy to me. It was years later before I fully understood this event and its implications.

    Jeffrey Glenn Miller, 20
    Allison B. Krause, 19
    William Knox Schroeder,19
    Sandra Lee Scheuer,20

    May their souls find peace.

    Guns are never the principle in the commission of a crime, but they are usually an accomplice

    by MadGeorgiaDem on Sat May 04, 2013 at 01:41:09 PM PDT

  •  I was 9 (3+ / 0-)

    A few weeks shy of turning 10.

    At the time, my young mind so obedient to authority, I thought they did something wrong and the police shot them.

    What an unbelievable American tragedy. Those 20 year olds would be looking at retirement by now.

    I wonder how tortured the sleep of the National Guardsman must be.

    I remember a commercial around that time, two wealthy looking pudgy white guys in a meadow, hitting each other with fists.... it looks brutal until the voice over suggests that this is the way world leaders should fight "wars". There would be a lot fewer of them.

    Imagine GWB and Saddam Hussein "discussing" their differences in a bare-fisted brawl.

    I would have bought tickets to that.

    We've been spelling it wrong all these years. It's actually: PRO-GOP-ANDA

    by Patriot4peace on Sat May 04, 2013 at 02:03:37 PM PDT

  •  My senior year in HS (5+ / 0-)

    Thanks EdMass for honoring this day.

    It was a passionate and explosive time. Nixon and his henchmen ran the show. Despicable bunch. It was a shock to the country - one that finally woke so many sheeple up to what their children were trying to tell them all along. We had many heated arguments at the dinner table to be sure.

    History has shown me that even those of us who protested the politics of that time were wrong - we did not support the troops who went into that huge lie of a war. It was unfair of us and to this day I go out of my way to thank the Vets who did what they did for the good old USofA.

    Just remember, when you are pointing a finger elsewhere there are always 3 fingers pointing back at you!

    by tallmom on Sat May 04, 2013 at 02:25:02 PM PDT

  •  I was 18 and a freshman at (5+ / 0-)

    Youngstown State.  Not all that far from Kent.  I knew former highschool classmates who went to Kent State.

    I was already protesting the war.  My dad called me a "pinko commie dupe"....  And then they killed us.  I was horrified and terrified and so angry; I was (am) a priveleged, middle class, well-behaved white girl, so my protesting didn't go so far as to get me arrested or even tear-gassed.

    But unlike lots of my age cohort, I maintained my liberal values.  I'm not much of an activist but do what I can.  I too have  come to understand how poorly we treated our boys who waged that war.  We did at least finally get those 18 - 20 year olds the right to vote for or against the old white men who were sending them into harm's way.

    This day always puts me in a melancholy and thoughtful mood.

    Everyone, in some small sacred sanctuary of the self, is nuts. -Leo Rosten, author (1908-1997)

    by Spirit of Life on Sat May 04, 2013 at 03:37:22 PM PDT

  •  My only protest march was when they tried to (1+ / 0-)
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    build a gymnasium on top of the place those folks were shot.

    I think it was in 76. Some friends who were vets told me there was a free bus going there from UMass. The vets were way into it. We drank lots of beer and smoked a lot of dope on the drive and got real tired.

    The socialists had organized it. I didn't walk in the line I was supposed to but followed the march on the sides. Didn't want to get involved in anything I didn't want to get involved in. They busted down the temp fence around the construction site then poured sand down the gas tanks of the heavy equipment. I didn't' agree with vandalism. They also defaced some statue with red paint. A student came out and started cleaning it up.

    Dim view of socialists ever since.

    How big is your personal carbon footprint?

    by ban nock on Sat May 04, 2013 at 04:22:46 PM PDT

  •  "Not something the most effed up of us would do." (1+ / 0-)
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    In a far far galaxy, a few days ago, on a different subject dairy in a simple comment someone said "Not something the most effed up of us would do."
    Kent State: One of those "Where were you?"
    Kent State: To me, one of those, if not the most important, points in the history of time.
    It was the beginnings of the new constructs of all accepted New Age Spiritual.
    I was dodgeingly LUCKY, the simple luck of lucking into someone explaining to a young person, to then be in a commune setting of Hawaii.
    Everyone everywhere gathered in groups, the discussions went well into the night, maybe nights elsewhere.
    The next day the mental consensus had been reached. The sweetest most kindest amongst us all concurred. From "Let it Rot" to "We Will Tear it Down!" and then "Let it Rot!" You could feel that vibe throughout the entire nation. The vibe that a UNITED sleeping giant was now aware.
    "Not something the most effed up of us would do."
    It was the most amazing thing to encounter other hippies and the vibe was AWAKENED and NOT afraid!
    The funniest thing was the fear you could see in the ESTABLISHMENTS faces.
    An unjust war and an insane President would end.
    The POWER of people united, talking & learning.  
    Came down hard on Occupy they did. Uh, over hear over hear :)
    Thank You, EdMass for this cool post as we beatnik roll along…

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