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House Speaker John Boehner can't imagine President Obama didn't know about the IRS investigation until it became public:
House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said in an interview aired late Wednesday that it’s “inconceivable” someone didn’t inform President Obama about the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups.

“It’s pretty inconceivable to me that the president wouldn’t know,” Boehner said in an interview with Fox News Channel’s Greta van Susteren.

And why can't he conceive of this?
“I’m just putting myself in his shoes. I deal with my senior staff every day. And if the White House had known about this, which now it appears they’ve known about it for about a year, it’s hard to imagine it wouldn’t have come up in some conversation.”
Note that Boehner says the White House has known about the IRS probe for about a year, but according to the White House, they first learned about it in late April. No evidence has emerged suggesting that's untrue, which means that Boehner's explanation for why he can't imagine Obama didn't know is based on imaginary fact.

Adding to the irony, it turns out that House Republicans have known about the probe for roughly a year—the IRS Inspector General informed Darrell Issa and Jim Jordan of the inquiry last July. So, by Boehner's own logic, it's "inconceivable" that Boehner didn't know about the IRS inquiry, yet he remained silent. The logical conclusion from that flows from that "fact"—which was established by the first constructive law of inconceivability—is that House Speaker John Boehner covered up the IRS investigation.

Sure, those logical leaps are nonsense, but it's no different than what Republicans are doing here. Every day they have a new theory, but the end result of their theory is always the same: Obama is Nixon. Sure, as Steve Benen writes, when the IRS story first broke, Republicans accused President Obama of using the IRS as a political hit squad against his enemies. But that theory has been debunked, so now they are trying to accuse him of covering up knowledge of the investigation into the activities after the activities had been stopped.

Of course, this theory won't work, because even if the White House is lying (a claim for which there is no evidence), we know that Republicans were aware of the probe. Nothing was stopping them from talking about it publicly, but they didn't. But even though it's clear this latest Republican theory is going to go up in smoke, it doesn't mean they're going to stop arguing that Obama = Scandal = Nixon. It just means they've yet to imagine their next theory on why.

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  •  Projection Of His Sense Of Guilt? (10+ / 0-)

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Projection is essential for chronic anger so anger always be rationalized and excused as self defense. Guilt often accompanies anger, and if someone feels guilty all the time (and I am told this is quite common), guilt is projected onto other people.  Since the person who suffers from chronic guilt believes that other people also feel guilty, then it is clear that other people must have done something wrong. In other words, if someone feels guilt, through projection they believe that it's other people who need to be punished. It's almost like a mathematical Transitive Property Of Guilt.

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:18:50 AM PDT

  •  “inconceivable” (13+ / 0-)

    Mr. Speaker, you keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

    "War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate." ~ Al Cleveland & Marvin Gaye (1970)

    by JBL55 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:21:21 AM PDT

  •  Boehner has time (11+ / 0-)

    to hang out with his senior staff to shoot the breeze because he hasn't actually worked for years.  Sounds like Issa didn't keep in the loop -- or, he's just a liar.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:23:40 AM PDT

  •  The Kettle is calling the Pot black. (6+ / 0-)

    And embarrassing itself in the process.

    There are no grounds for action against Obama in this IRS debacle. It was poor judgment, true, but in a fuzzy and contentious area. Any hint of political activity in an application for 501c status will trigger increased scrutiny whoever files it.

    In fact, each of the three I've filed in past years - all pure, all for community groups who had zero to do with politics - took many months for the IRS to process. A large number of questions open the door to disclosures about whether the group has any political agenda, broadly speaking.

    A lot can be said about the difficulty of dealing with organizations seeking one or another form of tax-exempt status. Granting 501c(3) and (4) status is not - and should not be - a matter of course. When/if all the fiery heat of the Far Right cools down, there might be chance to review the law and regulations in this area, to provide some help to staffers stuck handling inherently contentious issues.

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:28:34 AM PDT

    •  Pretty certain Bush had this and worse with CDC (1+ / 0-)
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      The Bush admin tore into the CDC for basically saying abstinence only policies were killing our children. Bush had funding for AIDS research slashed, the CDC was audited by the IRS over and over again with never any evidence of wrong doing, and Bush even had pro-safe sex pages on the CDC shut down. Outcries by Republicans (or Dems for that matter)? Not a peep.

      Strange but not a stranger.

      by jnww on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:33:22 AM PDT

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  •  Guilty of carrying out his oath of office... (6+ / 0-)

    ...to serve the citizens and support and uphold the US Constitution.

    Would that Boehner and his caucus could truthfully accuse themselves of the same.

    Majoring in minors. Looking for the non-existent scandal de-jour. In spite of the cover the MSM gives his party, the voters are yawning as his party implodes. We're onto him, even if the barkers try to deflect our attention.

    I think that Republicanism is revealing itself as a personality disorder, not so much an ideology." -- Naomi Klein

    by AllanTBG on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:29:10 AM PDT

  •  How lucky for Boehner (13+ / 0-)

    that we don't have journalists in this country, and he can get away with this stuff effortlessly.

    How come mass shooters are never charged with using a weapon of mass destruction?

    by jazzmaniac on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:29:39 AM PDT

  •  Obama is only guilty of governing while black (17+ / 0-)

    These republican still can not get over the fact that Obama, a brilliant black man, won the presidential election twice, beating old white guys by a large percentage of the popular vote, plus a very large electoral vote.

  •  Ignoring a problem (2+ / 0-)
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    Like BO is doing here, won't make it go away.

    •  How exactly is the President ignoring a problem (3+ / 0-)
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      unless you mean ignoring Boehner which I wish the media would do. LOL

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      by wishingwell on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:35:58 AM PDT

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    •  When a problem exists only in the minds (3+ / 0-)
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      of self-deluded partisan hacks, ignoring it may not make it go away, but it is logical.

      Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

      by blue aardvark on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:36:18 AM PDT

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      •  Trust me, it exists elsewhere. (0+ / 0-)
        When a problem exists only in the minds of self-deluded partisan hacks, ignoring it may not make it go away, but it is logical.
        The DOJ snooping is particularly bad, and no one can seriously say its not a problem when Democrats like Charlie Rangel and Elijah Cummings say it's a problem.

        The patellar reflex is a deep tendon reflex which allows one to keep one's balance with little effort or conscious thought.

        by SpamNunn on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:49:04 AM PDT

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        •  When Rangel and Cummings (4+ / 0-)

          criticize the president they do it within a zone you could describe as normal displeasure with a president expressed with the aim of changing his behavior.

          When the hypocritical right attacks the president, as they do over Benghazi and the IRS (they don't really have much to say about spying on the AP) their only interest in driving him out of office. Failing that they'll settle for undermining his authority, humiliation and obstruction.

          Both quarters have something critical to say about the president but that's where the similarities end.

        •  Which is exactly what the article is not about (0+ / 0-)

          Boehner is talking about the IRS. Not the AP. And I was talking about the IRS. Not the AP.

          So this problem (the IRS Tea Party reviews being Obama's fault) only exists in the minds of partisan hacks, and your attempt to conflate it with a different problem (the AP) is also the work of a partisan hack.

          Thanks for playing, but raise your game.

          Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

          by blue aardvark on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:28:47 AM PDT

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          •  I guess you didn't watch the testimony yesterday. (0+ / 0-)

            There was as many upset Democrats as there were Republicans.  Hardly "partisan hacks".  

            The IRS can say no one was an intentional target all they want.    That's what Eric Holder said yesterday about  three more American citizens killed in drone strikes.  They were not "intentional targets", either.  Someone needs to keep our government honest.   It's not OK if you are a Democrat.    Dissing the American public by pretending none of this is a big deal is an insult to the intelligence of the American people.  

            Anyone who can say, with a straight face, that these are  not problems that need to be investigated to see how high up they go, if only to respect the process, is a partisan shill.    No Kool Aid for me, thank you.  I want honest government, no matter who's in charge.    

            The patellar reflex is a deep tendon reflex which allows one to keep one's balance with little effort or conscious thought.

            by SpamNunn on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:30:48 AM PDT

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        •  Re: "DOJ snooping"... (0+ / 0-)

          Rangel and Cummings both were against the Patriot Act and it makes complete sense for them to continue this stance. The Obama Administration (and many Dems, though not nearly enough) pushed for protections for the media, a stance that Republicans were against although that view is changing (probably because the scary black Muslim is now the one snooping). You describe it as "particularly bad" but it was and remains completely legal. Warrants were sought, issued and as far as has been determined no emails or phone calls were listened in on (which also would have been legal if they chose to do so BTW). The fact that Republicans have been so vocal in their past support of spying to chase national security leaks renders their current cries of "scandalous" rather toothless. Personally I am against most of the powers granted in the Patriot Act and perhaps this will lead to changes in the law. As it stands right now the law IS a bad one...but everything that has been revealed in the DOJ story was completely within the legal constraints of the law. It may be a bad law but the actions of the DOJ do not fit the definition of "scandalous".

    •  The Problem Of Lying Hysterical Goobers (4+ / 0-)
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      ...is not going away any time soon.

      There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

      by bernardpliers on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:38:55 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah... (4+ / 0-)

      that's why he fired the director and asked for an investigation.  Wait, what?

      'Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost' - Ronald Reagan, Communist

      by RichM on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:39:40 AM PDT

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  •  Bring the curtain down on the Kabuki Theater (3+ / 0-)
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    in congress.

    Enough already. The chief Kabuki actors are Boehner and McConnell with their attitude that they can lead the democrats and Obama around on a leash.

    Our system has always been a Kabuki theater. The play that revolved around slavery brought about unimaginable suffering. Lincoln managed to end the slavery Kabuki. Franklin Roosevelt ended the free labor worker exploitation Kabuki.

    Now we have actors like Boehner and McConnell who want to return to the worker exploitation Kabuki. Shame on them. Obama, instead of calling out this hypocrisy, sits on his butt, picks his nose, and pretends to be president of the US while Wall St. calls all the shots.

    Knowledge is Power. Ignorance is not bliss, it is suffering.

    by harris stein on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:32:16 AM PDT

  •  Yea, and check this out. (5+ / 0-)

    Note the February time frame of the activities here in reference to what Boehner knows in the thread above. The real scandal is a Carl Rove style money scandal. Lawrence O'Donnell has the scoop on this one.

    Peace, Love, and Prosperity.

    by Rich Lyles on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:32:22 AM PDT

    •  Karl Rove, (0+ / 0-)

      spelled in the same way as Karl Marx.

      This is easy to remember because the Soviets fashioned their system supposedly based on Karl Marx's philosophies, and both Karl Rove and the Soviets lived and breathed misleading propaganda.

      -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

      by sunbro on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:38:56 AM PDT

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  •  This is actually an improvement. (10+ / 0-)

    President Obama has gone from being Hitler/Stalin to being Nixon.

    The problem with political jokes is they get elected.

    by shoeless on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:33:22 AM PDT

  •  You're DIM, Jed! (2+ / 0-)
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    Do you not understand the Sacred Law of Leadership?

    Just as Leadership is Obama proposing the unpopular spending cuts that Republicans desire so they can blame him in attack ads, likewise Leadership requires Obama to attack his own administration on behalf of the Republicans and supply them with quotes for attacks ads. They don't have to do anything, for that would undercut the Leadership of President Obama, whom they wish the greatest success in supplying them with material for attack ads.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:33:26 AM PDT

  •  It won't take long (2+ / 0-)
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    Obama = Scandal = Nixon
    How long will it take before another = sign will be added?
    I mean when they add the = Hitler to the equation. Sigh.

    The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

    by deebee on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:36:39 AM PDT

  •  Boehner's staff = Obama Administration? (4+ / 0-)
    “I’m just putting myself in his shoes. I deal with my senior staff every day."
    Let's say the House Speaker has a staff of 40. OK, maybe a hundred, I don't know but it is a Congressional staff. The White House oversees almost all of the rest of the Federal Government which employs millions of people.

    Boehner's senior staff is four people: Chief of Staff, Legislative Director, District Director and Press Secretary. It's the same thing as the Presiden't cabinet. See?


    i just baptized andrew breitbart into the church of islam, planned parenthood, the girl scouts and three teachers unions. - @blainecapatch

    by bobinson on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:36:56 AM PDT

    •  Comparing his oranges (orangeness?) to Obama's (0+ / 0-)

      apples? Does Boehner know how his aide's child's teacher did what they did last week when grading the test from that other class they were also responsible for?

      OK, that was a pretty convoluted example (could have been even more convoluted though), but I'm sure Obama doesn't micromanage ALL of the departments in the Federal Government.

      "Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen!" oder "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

      by drpmeade on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:43:17 AM PDT

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  •  Yet, apparently... (5+ / 0-)

    It is totally 'conceivable' that Reagan knew nothing of Iran/Contra.  And Dubya knew nothing of Abu Ghraib.

    'Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost' - Ronald Reagan, Communist

    by RichM on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:37:49 AM PDT

    •  And Cheney knew nothing of the (4+ / 0-)
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      no-competition Haliburton contract in Iraq that was cleared with his office.

      Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

      by blue aardvark on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:39:49 AM PDT

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      •  they all caught Rice disease... (0+ / 0-)

        Affected Condoleeza Rice could not imagine that anyone would fly a plane into a building, Mr. Cheney could not imagine that the no-bid contracts were at all suspect and Mr. Boehner cannot imagine that no one would have passed information along to the president.  And on and on it goes.  

        It seems that all of these Republicans have the same disease; all of them are sorely lacking in imaginative powers.  Perhaps Ms. Rice was and is contagious.  Maybe we should quarantine Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney, Ms. Rice, Mr. Rumsfeld, Mr. Rove and (quite a) few more in The Hague or some similar venue until they are cured.  

  •  If any Republicans knew about this (8+ / 0-)

    in the summer of 2012, and they didn't bring it up in the 2012 election, then I have to believe that there is no there, there.

    That or they hated Romney more than we thought.

    Not that they are right, but they would not have ignored the possibility of manufacturing a scandal 6 months before the election rather than 6 months after it if they thought it was anything worth using.

    If you took the greed out of Wall Street all you’d have left is pavement ~Robert Reich

    by k8dd8d on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:39:25 AM PDT

  •  "Silly Season" in DC: GOP 4 Month Summer Vacation (2+ / 0-)
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    ....and the press needs non-story puff pieces that they can phone in from the summer homes.

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:40:34 AM PDT

  •  GOP: talking tough and pointing fingers... (0+ / 0-)

    ...EXCEPT when it's a conservative at the receiving end...

  •  And yet, when Boehner was "caught red-handed... (4+ / 0-)
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    in an amazing act of corruption.." there was nothing to see there, and we were just expected to move along.  

    In this 1996 documentary by PBS called "The People and the Power Game," John Boehner is caught red-handed in an amazing act of corruption, and his biggest critics are fellow Republicans.

       

    Boehner: Mine asked me to give out a half dozen checks quickly before we got to the end of the month and I complied. I did it on the House floor which I regret and I should not have done, it's not a violation of the House rules, but it's a practice that's gone on here for a long time.

        Were the checks from tobacco companies?

        Boehner: Ahh, I think if my memory serves me correctly, I think it was a tobacco company, yes.

        Q)....but in this case tobacco's well timed contributions helped save its subsidy. The people that were passing out the checks won.

    Somehow, it's always "the same, but different" whenever a scandal involves GOPers.  Their scandals are never important, they are never worthy of investigation, and we all need to look forward, not backward & anyway, they "regret" doing bad things, so it's all okay, right?  

    OTOH, whenever Dems are accused of anything--anything, big or small, it's the "Worst Scandal Ever Recorded in the History of Mankind"...  The  GOPer hypocrites ignore or excuse their own scandals while demanding "investigation and prosecution" (not necessarily in that order) of their Dem colleagues.  

    And, the media mini-minds lap it all up, & regurgitate the GOPer scripted messaging.  

    •  Never could figure out (1+ / 0-)
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      why democrats didn't use this against Boehner.  

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:18:01 AM PDT

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      •  Because (0+ / 0-)

        the Democrats are incapable of strategizing.  Also, Democrats are very much beholden to their own big-money lobbyists and campaign contributors so they can't fight too hard on these issues or they'll be called out for hypocrisy.  (Republicans don't care about being called out on hypocrisy which gives them a big advantage in politics).  Really we do not have a two party system.  We have one party with two branches.

    •  Apples and (0+ / 0-)

      Pomegranates.   Congressional scandals involving shady money deals are commonplace on The Hill.  It's the responsibility of the voters of each district as to whether they care or not. Thus the re-election and rise of Boehner. And there are many examples o the left as well.  

      Presidential misconduct rises far above this and is held to a different standard as it should be. Whether or not there is something here remains to be seen but BO is doing himself no favors here.  As Keanu said in Speed " Shoot the hostage.  Take him out of the equation."  

      I also can't help but remember a SNL skit about Iran-Contra from the 80's with Phil Hartman. Hilarious but I don't know if I have the skills to link it.

      •  Disagree.. (0+ / 0-)

        I don't dismiss Congressional malfeasance as "commonplace".  Also, this congressional misconduct was committed by a man who is now Speaker of the House of Representatives, and third in line for the Presidency--and a man who excused his own misconduct, but now points fingers at the (Democratic) President.  

        He never had an issue with the repeated, serial incidences of questionable actions/ inaction of the former (republican)  POTUS.

        Nor do I join the republicans in assuming there is some sort of Presidential "misconduct".  Republicans certainly don't need any help in manufacturing or magnifying any and every move by this POTUS into something monumental.

  •  I can't imagine that Bush & Cheney (3+ / 0-)
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    didn't know that Saddam's WMD and yellow cake in Niger were big piles of crap fed to the public as an excuse to attempt an oil grab in Iraq.

    And neither one of them is in prison.

    Now THAT'S inconceivable.

  •  Probably because Shulman had to be a wise ass (0+ / 0-)

    when he testified that he went to the White House 118 times during the President's term and never spoke of the IRS issue - not even once.   When pressed on why he did go there, he said "for the White House Easter Egg Roll with my children".   When pressed a second time on this point, he said, "No, we never discussed it [the IRS targeting allegations], [PAUSE] to the best of my recollection".

    Whoever is prepping these witnesses is doing a real crappy job.   Between this and Lerner taking the Fifth, the Administration is making something that they could probably defuse and turning it into a real, potentially recurring bombshell.  

    If Bush had trotted out witnesses like this, we would be in the streets of Washington, DC, with torches and pitchforks.  

    The patellar reflex is a deep tendon reflex which allows one to keep one's balance with little effort or conscious thought.

    by SpamNunn on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:46:04 AM PDT

    •  Well since you mention Bush (3+ / 0-)
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      Bush scandals sent about 20 people to prison, several from the White House.

      22) 3,000,000 manufacturing jobs to China under Bush's Secretary of Labor, whose family got wealthy trading with China
      21) US Attorneys General fired for not being political enough
      20) Patient neglect at Wakter Reed
      19) Scooter Libby outs CIA agent Valery Plame to protect phony WMD story
      18) No bid contracts in Iraq for Haliburton and Blackwater that waste billions and endanger soldiers
      17) Hurricane Katrina, FEMA moved to DHS, run by political crony
      16) Ignored the "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US" briefings that warned about 9-11 attacks
      15) Jack Abramoff goes to prison for bribing Republicans
      14) Republican Duke Cunningham goes to federal prison for taking defense contrator bribes (money and prosttitutes)
      13) CIA bribery scandal causes #1 and #3 people to resign.
      CIA chief Brent Wilkes hires known crook Dusty Foggo as #3.  
      Foggo and Wilkes resign when the FBI raids Foggo's homne and office
      12) Coverups in friendly fire death of Pat Tillman
      11) Dubai ports deal put US port security in hands of middle-easterners
      10) Presidential adviser Claude Allen caught stealing thousands of dollars in store merchandise
      9) "Jeff Gannon" a male prostitute gets White Press passes under a false name and gives Bush softball questions
      8) Leandro Aragoncillo naturalized Filipino-American in Cheney’s office (previously Gore’s) accused of spying for the Philippines and France, pled guilty, sentenced to 10 years
      AIPAC espionage scandal; former DOD employee Lawrence Franklin pled guilty to passing information on Iran to Israel through two AIPAC employees
      7) Monica "Loyalty oaths" Goodling hired GOPers in violation of federal law and DOJ rules inin a wide range of non-political  career positions.
      6) Mineral Management Service (MMS) employees getting sex, drugs, and bribes from oil and gas companies.
      5) Rendition, secret prisons, torture "black sites"
      4) Iraqis tortured to death whil in American custody
      3) Destruction of the waterboarding video tape evidence  that were supposed to prove how great torture works

      And of course.....

      2) About a dozen attacks on US embassies that nobody called "scandals."

      And

      1) Lying us into the Iraq war

      There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

      by bernardpliers on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:52:12 AM PDT

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  •  Reminds me of the Amanda Knox "trial" (0+ / 0-)

    She was found guilty before any forensic evidence had been collected, based on nothing but how weird the police thought her behavior was.

    Likewise, Obama has been guilty of something since the day he was inaugurated, based on nothing but how weird the Republican base finds the idea of a black president.

    In her case, they just kept shifting their fantasies of the crime  (Satanic ritual, sex game, etc.) while slaughtering her in the press with false stories.

    In his, they just keep shifting their fantasies about who Obama "really" is (Muslim, Kenyan, socialist, etc.) while slaughtering him in the press with false stories.

    He must be guilty of something -- that's been the underlying assumption every single day.  Now it's that he "created a culture" that encouraged IRS staff to be mean to conservatives. Sure he did. And Amanda Knox exerted superpower evil control over a poor guy with a knife from a mile away.

  •  What I don't understand is where the f*** (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    are the Democrats?  As a Democratic voter I am disgusted with the silence from them on anything.  Yeah Reid is mumbling something, but I think he may be in LALA Land with McConnell and McCain.  Now I don't have millions to donate but did give and give during the election.  I also know that many many of us help get the Democrats in office and return Obama to office.  Why are the Democrats not supporting their president?  For god's sake Issa has known about this crap since July 2012 if it was such a tragedy then why didn't he and his thugs say something?  If IRS behavior is so onerous then why are the Democrats not raising holy hell over the manipulation of Muller by the GOP re: donations?.

    It is just dismal the way they (the Democrats) sit back in silence.  Why are they not out in front of every microphone they can find and denouncing this.  Please don't tell me that all the hard work from people across the country was for naught and they are cowering in the corners trying to cover their own sorry asses.  This is not the kind of behavior that will get more Democrats elected in 2014.  The American people like a good fight and they sure aren't getting one right now.  I for one will be hard pressed to donate to any of them in the future, will start giving my extra money to the barista at least he/she is alive.

    "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medication to the dead." Thomas Paine

    by My two cents worth on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:49:57 AM PDT

    •  Er, no, Amanda Knox was questioned in (0+ / 0-)

      the murder of her roommate, then became a suspect when she was unable - as she is still unable - to tell a consistent story about her whereabouts on the night of the murder and her actions the day the murder was discovered.

      •  Right. /snark (0+ / 0-)

        Just like Obama has been unable to prove that he didn't know about the IRS, isn't a Muslim, didn't alter his birth certificate, doesn't have ties to radical communists, and so on.

        She was unable to prove that she's not a sex-addicted Satanist, not capable of bending men to her will, not transformed in two months from ordinary college junior to insane knife-wielding murderess.

        She collapsed under police interrogation after being told that they had evidence against her and after being encouraged to "imagine" how it might have gone. About a quarter of people exonerated by the Innocence Project actually confessed to crimes they never did, right? It's not uncommon for the tactics used against her to bring out stories that aren't true.

        Sorry I brought it up, as this isn't the place for an Amanda Knox argument. The similarities between what happened to her and what's been done to the president are -- to me -- striking.

    •  Well the dems aren't exactly silent (1+ / 0-)
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      they're busy agreeing with republicans how terribly awful these scandals are.

      Makes you optimistic for how dems in congress will serve with the next republican president, doesn't it?

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:20:16 AM PDT

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  •  The real scandal. . . (1+ / 0-)
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    Is how this orange asshole keeps getting paid to do nothing.

    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time. -- Brian Fantana

    by IndyScott on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:52:40 AM PDT

  •  Just like they couldn't conceive Romney losing... (0+ / 0-)

    These guys invent their own reality.

    Just another day in Oceania.

    by drshatterhand on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:55:47 AM PDT

  •  'We've found a witch.....May we burn her?'..... (0+ / 0-)

    'How do you know she is a witch?'

    'She looks like one.'

  •  And what exactly is Mr. Boehner guilty (0+ / 0-)

    of, that would be an impeachable offense if we could impeach him?  Sedition?  Undermining America's recovery?  Incompetence?  Doing absolutely nothing, as do most of his Republican colleagues, in an attempt to kill off our government, while living off their taxpayer funded salaries and benefits and perks?  He's a disgrace.  The entire GOP in congress is a disgrace.  I don't think their witch hunting tactics are going to help their cause.  At least one can hope, no?
     

    The GOP will destroy anything they can't own.

    by AnnieR on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:06:14 AM PDT

  •  Getting sick of this IRS scandal (0+ / 0-)

    Has anyone asked yet what other search terms were used to identify political groups?  Because by law the IRS should be targeting political groups for review and denying them tax exempt status.  We know these agents used search terms for teabaggers, but what about other search terms?  Any terms that would find progressive groups?  

    And how exactly would one search for progressive groups?  Teabagger groups are easy, just look for TEA in their name.  What search terms could quickly identify progressive groups?  Not so easy, is it?

    Finally, on what the fuck planet is it that the IRS abuses its power by granting tax exempt status to political enemies?  We know of no teabaggers being denied tax exemption, but several progressive groups which were denied.  If that's going after enemies, then the Obama administration is even more politically incompetent that many of us already believe.

    "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

    by Subterranean on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:08:04 AM PDT

  •  Absolutely (1+ / 0-)
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    Adding to the irony, it turns out that House Republicans have known about the probe for roughly a year—the IRS Inspector General informed Darrell Issa and Jim Jordan of the inquiry last July. So, by Boehner's own logic, it's "inconceivable" that Boehner didn't know about the IRS inquiry, yet he remained silent. The logical conclusion from that flows from that "fact"—which was established by the first constructive law of inconceivability—is that House Speaker John Boehner covered up the IRS investigation.
    I have been wondering why Issa didn't grab this one last year.  

    When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day? George Carlin

    by msmacgyver on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:20:28 AM PDT

  •  Pottstown Pa Mercury (0+ / 0-)

    This asshole racist rag is constantly out for Middleman. the other day featured a cartoon of him looking like a jackass and giving the peace signs like Nixon. Pottstown is predominantly democrat and although I have no love for Middleman, it is idiot rags like the mercury that continue to distort and lie about everything democrat

  •  boehner is an example (0+ / 0-)

    of what too many hours on a tanning booth will do to your brain, along with being a gopo fanatic.

  •  Any group with "Party" in their name ought to (0+ / 0-)

    get a careful look from the IRS before they get tax exempt status.  "Democratic Party," "Republican Party," "Green Party," "Tea Party," -- whatever.  I think we should rebuild not just the "wall of separation" between church and state, we need a ten mile wide demilitarized zone between any tax-exempt group and a whiff of politics.

    We're all pretty strange one way or another; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is a dryer setting.

    by david78209 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 11:11:34 AM PDT

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