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Outgoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi hands the speaker's gavel to incoming House Speaker John Boehner after Boehner was elected Speaker on the opening day of the 112th United States Congress on Capitol Hill in Washington, January 5, 2011. Republicans are t
If Boehner has to give that gavel back, then he'll really be crying
Yes, we know that Obama is Nixon, that the breakfast he had this morning is worse than Watergate, and that by the end of the summer he's going to be forced to resign, after which he will be forced to live in ignominy with William Jefferson Clinton, the last president to have been impeached by the Republican Party.

But in the meantime, let's enjoy the party, because as the latest ABC/Washington Post survey shows ... the GOP isn't enjoying the fruits of its scandal-exposing labors (RVs, 5/16-19, ±3.5 percent):

If the election for the U.S. House of Representatives were being held today, would you vote for (the Democratic candidate) or (the Republican candidate) in your congressional district?

Democratic candidate: 48
Republican candidate: 40

Democrats enjoy a whopping 56-33 edge among moderates, and while they get just 20 percent of the conservative vote, that's more than double the 8 percent of the liberal vote obtained by Republicans. Republicans have a miniscule 1-point edge among independents—41 to 40—but in 2010, they carried independents by a whopping 56-37 margin.

Also, as Greg Sargent notes, the poll contains more evidence that conventional wisdom about gun politics is wrong: In both red and blue states, more voters say they they would vote against a candidate who opposed expanding background checks to gun shows and the internet than say they would vote against a candidate who supported expanded checks. A total of 35 percent say they'd rule out a candidate who was against expanding checks compared with 14 percent who say they'd rule out a candidate who is for such checks. That helps explain why Republicans have been so eager to have it both ways on the issue, voting against expanded checks while simultaneously claiming that they support them.

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  •  From our keyboard to God's monitor . . . (24+ / 0-)

    I'm fairly optimistic about holding the Senate.  We might even net another seat or two.  The House, gerrymandered all to hell since the 2010 census, is another matter.  Maybe if we were to generate another "wave" election, we could take it back, but so far, I don't see that effort being made at anywhere near the level it needs to be made.

    We'll take back some governorships and state legislatures, though, so the Lynch Mob reign of terror at the state level may be reduced some.

    "The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance of those who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have little. " --Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by jg6544 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:35:57 AM PDT

    •  Democrats need to (14+ / 0-)

      1.  Show over and over what the Republicans are doing to women via Planned Parenthood, Abortion, Medicaid, refusal to accept Obamacare, etc.

      2.  Remind the voters in 2014 of which Congress critters voted AGAINST background checks.

      And why would people be against these people who voted this way in the first place?  Well to me, the answer is easy.....  There is nothing more glaringly obvious as to who they answer to - not their constituents but to their corporate NRA masters (and of course other corporate hacks).

      Seriously, they have shown who their loyalty lies with and it is not with the people and especially, not with women.

      -6.13 -4.4 Where are you? Take the Test!!!

      by MarciaJ720 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:39:51 AM PDT

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      •  Unfortunately . . . (0+ / 0-)

        The only people who are doing this consistently are the hosts on MSNBC.  This is what the White House and the HDCC and the SDCC should be doing, but they aren't.

        "The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance of those who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have little. " --Franklin D. Roosevelt

        by jg6544 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:26:29 AM PDT

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  •  Why "Morning in America" resonates: (12+ / 0-)

    We've had enough Doom and Gloom already; the bearer of Bad News will be shunned.

    Notice: This Comment © 2013 ROGNM

    by ROGNM on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:38:57 AM PDT

  •  But just wait until the nation (16+ / 0-)

    finds out that Benghazi wasn't paying his taxes and was targeted by the AP.

    That will turns this around.

  •  Yeah, what's with the Nixon obsession? (8+ / 0-)

    Does the GOP think we've forgotten which party Nixon was in? Can they really distance themselves from Nixon enough to use him as their new bogey-man? Are there just not enough radio listeners left alive who remember Hitler?

    And, is it even worth it for them to try distancing themselves from Nixon? There are so many Nixon alumni still in government and media jobs that they really oughtn't be picking at that scab.

    Why would they try? Is Nixon's record on tax rates, environmental protection, etc. just too embarrassing today? Are today's new money channels more important to befriend than those aging Nixon staff and unindicted coconspirators?

    Seems odd. Either a generational shifting of loyalties, or a wild swing in the dark.

    Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

    by chimpy on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:45:08 AM PDT

    •  Well they can't bring up Clinton (9+ / 0-)

      because that will remind the public just how full of it they are........again.

    •  Probably a VSP is just finishing a book on Nixon (4+ / 0-)
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      Quicklund, chimpy, I love OCD, blueyedace2

      and all this talk about Nixon is part of the run up to the book's release later this summer.

      Notice: This Comment © 2013 ROGNM

      by ROGNM on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:49:15 AM PDT

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    •  I think they are so locked into their bubble, (3+ / 0-)
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      ...that their only focus is "Pick a President the American public didn't like and associate President Obama with him."
      The fact that any President like that would be a Republican doesn't even enter their minds.

      Everybody got to elevate from the norm....

      by Icicle68 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:13:58 AM PDT

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      •  What if a focus group said to compare him to Bush? (2+ / 0-)
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        Nixon administration alumni are still in business, and it seems a little risky for some GOP hopeful to use their team's name as the next big supervillain. What if some focus group had Romney trying to demonize Obama by saying he's no better than those corporate raiders who ran Bain Capital? Data-driven marketing is fine, but sometimes we still need people to sanity check the conclusions.

        Maybe they spent the whole consulting budget on family and friends, and had nothing left for another round of focus groups? Or maybe nobody even thought to rephrase the question, "Who does everyone hate, besides us."

        There are plenty of Republicans they could legitimately compare our current President to. Republicans once fielded candidates who, once elected, did good things with bipartisan support in Congress. They enacted environmental protections. They mostly went along with social changes they saw as inevitable, and one of note even pushed America to outgrow its reliance on slavery.  They undertook massive public works for transportation infrastructure we still use today. They respected the American people's choices, agreeing that to governing ourselves also meant taxing ourselves. But Nixon?

        Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

        by chimpy on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:57:21 AM PDT

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        •  I think they hesitate to mention Eisenhower, (3+ / 0-)
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          because that might cause someone to recall what the top marginal tax rate was while he was President. Seriously. They don't approve of his tax rates, therefore he must have been a RINO.
          The Republican Party has changed so much since those days, but they still want to use the same imagery to describe themselves.

          Everybody got to elevate from the norm....

          by Icicle68 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 11:43:44 AM PDT

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    •  Because they were able to re-write (2+ / 0-)
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      Reagan's history......

      Geez, Reagan was a Liberal compared to what is in the Houses of Congress !!!!

      -6.13 -4.4 Where are you? Take the Test!!!

      by MarciaJ720 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:36:17 AM PDT

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    •  An before Nixon was Agnew whose Scandal (1+ / 0-)
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      was huge till he got lucky with Nixon Scandal over-shadowing the fact that a Republican Vice-President had to Resign for being a crook.

  •  Gun regs aren't political poison? Heresy! (10+ / 0-)

    This poll must be skewed, skewed I tell you, because we all know that support for increased gun regulation is what cost Democrats the Congress in 1994 and that it will bring about political Armageddon for Democrats again.  I mean, just look at the recent special election in South Carolina, where a Republican actually held a Republican seat in a deeply Republican district, which proves it was all about gunz.  

    If Democrats support gun regulation, they're DOOMED!!!!!


    "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

    by FogCityJohn on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:45:29 AM PDT

  •  Thanks (0+ / 0-)

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:46:10 AM PDT

  •  D candidate: 48 Rcandidate: 40? No Problem! (4+ / 0-)

    The Rs will just vote suppress and gerrymander harder, and more effectively.

    That's the key to the permanent R majority.

    •  They are rigging the system (1+ / 0-)
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      They do not provide enough voting booths in heavily Democratic (i.e. cities) areas of the Nation which are also the very places that tend to have a variety of people living next to one another in peace (how, oh how can that be?).

      Voter ID Laws, even after a person has served their time in prison they are not allowed to be a voter ever again.  WTF is that all about?  Oh, The black people - the prisons are where the white folks lock them up, throw away the key and any chance of life they might have had.

      All on the taxpayers dime.....

      -6.13 -4.4 Where are you? Take the Test!!!

      by MarciaJ720 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:41:06 AM PDT

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  •  A few nonsequiturs in this post (0+ / 0-)

    1) nixon's ratings rose continuously through the watergate crisis...until at the last minute, they didn't. so one would be wise to remember history, lest the wheel repeat itself.

    2) 'voting against someone who opposes background checks' is utterly meaningless. they will almost certainly vote for the incumbent, their vote on anything notwithstanding.

    too much wishful thinking, methinks.

    •  This reads as though you agree BHO = RMN (3+ / 0-)
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    •  What the heck? (1+ / 0-)
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      Nixon's 2nd term ratings peaked at noon on January 20. The rest of his 2nd term is generously described as "black diamond steep."

      There is a bit of noise from week to week, but the trendline cannot in any way be characterized as "rising," especially not "continuously."

      The closest you get is a very small "rally round the guy getting beat on" effect in the handful of weeks leading up to resignation -- during which Nixon's ratings saw a short-term bump from 25% to 29%, before quickly falling back to 25%.

      2nd term Nixon was a complete failure.

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      by harrije on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:58:58 AM PDT

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      •  No no it wasn't at least not for me and many (1+ / 0-)
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        others,my number was coming up in a few months an being poor I knew I was heading to 'Nam and I was seriously considering not going to 'Nam by going "on the lam" course my family would have been real pissed at me for mailing a letter from "somewhere" but it wouldn't have been from 'Nam,so when Nixon stopped that process I was so happy I didn't give a damn about the stuff being said about Nixon course later as the Scandal progressed I did give a damn.

        •  Did it ever occur to you (1+ / 0-)
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          who started the lottery in the first place? (Hint: he grew up on a small lemon farm in Yorba Linda.)

          I'm not sure how much credit a man should get for scooping his own poop off the sidewalk.

          I'm glad you didn't have to go to Vietnam. I wish a lot more people didn't have to go, either.

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          by harrije on Thu May 23, 2013 at 06:22:40 PM PDT

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  •  Republicans have become (7+ / 0-)

    just a bunch of scanda-lam-a-dingdongs! I sick to death of their BS.

  •  But But But......Rasmussen. (4+ / 0-)
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  •  Interesting on the guns polling... (7+ / 0-)

    I wondered why Ed Markey's main ad is going after Gomez for his stance on assault rifles and large magazines.

    And Kelly Ayotte is getting pounded on her background check vote.

  •  So you're saying we AREN'T doomed? (9+ / 0-)

    This isn't a good time to panic?


    "It's a one-in-a-million shot, but it just might work." - SGT F. Colon

  •  Americans on guns: (3+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, wadingo, MadGeorgiaDem

    We want our guns
    We don't want the wrong people to get guns

    So, as long as we don't push for a complete ban on guns or anything that sounds like it, but support sensible controls (like universal background checks) we can be on the offensive here.

    That probably means an "assault weapons ban" is not going to happen again without a great cost.  But a ban on "assault clips" or "assault scopes" or certain types of ammo should work politically.

    Of course if you want to restrict even mortar shells, the R's will scream "gun grabber!" but that can work in our favor.  Attack the most extreme periphery and let them paint themselves as hysterics.

    "Don't be defeatist, dear. It's very middle class." - Violet Crawley

    by nightsweat on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:04:39 AM PDT

  •  Stupid move, GOP (5+ / 0-)

    Really, GOP, how smart is it to keep saying "Nixon" and "Watergate" every day?  Eventually even people who haven't a clue about Watergate will look it up, and then they'll say "Really? Really?  This is worse than paying burglars to break into a psychiatrist's office and steal medical records,  and worse than the President ordering that burglars be paid for their silence about breaking into DNC HQ and bugging the phones, and worse than the President of the United States saying "You can get a million dollars, I know where you could get it," on tape, and worse than bags of cash being carried around by guys in red wigs?  Really?  Really?  Damn, I didn't even know half of this shit even happened."

  •  get out ahead and these are wave numbers(?) (1+ / 0-)
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    or rather - hey election junkies are these wave numbers?

    There's a golden opportunity here to be the "common sense" party and paint their entire brand as out of touch aging psycho culture warriors, corrupt big business tools and weirdo conspiracy cultists. First, that picture is accurate. There's a problem in that the national Dems are mostly big business tools but if some 2014 candidates get on board and a national leader emerges (paging Senator Warren - you knew I was going there) maybe we get the House back.

    They're going to try and paint us as the party of the ACA fiasco. The problem is that picture is also right. I think our vision can trump theirs but there has to be a vision and a national movement.

    If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

    by jgnyc on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:46:14 AM PDT

  •  No matter how passionate, Republicans (4+ / 0-)
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    have overloaded the public with fake fear-mongering.  No one cares, beyond the insane base.  And gerrymandering doesn't help if the sane members of your base want you to go away.  We're focused on their evil actions, rightfully, but not tuned into what individual Republican voters are thinking.  If enough R voters in Texas have to bring mom and dad home because of Medicaid shortfalls our gov and lege can't gerrymander a win for dog catcher.  Austerity is getting personal in many states.  If you have no public schools in the fall of 2013 because your leadership killed their budgets, trust me, you are NOT voting for them again.  If cops don't respond to your call for help, or the FD can't save your house because of budget cuts, you're not voting for more of the same.  We don't yet know how 2014 will play out.  

    I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

    by I love OCD on Thu May 23, 2013 at 11:24:38 AM PDT

  •  Learning from history (1+ / 0-)
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    The impact of Watergate on Richard Nixon was not immediate. The actual break-in at the Watergate complex occurred in June 1972. Nixon nevertheless went on to a sweeping re-election victory over Democrat George McGovern in November, and to a robust presidential approval rating of 62% immediately thereafter. By January of 1973, however, the criminal trial of the first set of Watergate defendants and the formation of a special Senate committee to investigate Republican campaign espionage began to have an impact. Nixon's job approval dropped to 51% in a mid-January Gallup survey.
    ... The relentless uncovering of damaging information about the Watergate scandal through the spring and summer of 1973 led to a steady deterioration in public approval of Nixon month by month. By May, Nixon's rating had dropped to 44%, and by August, it was at 31% -- representing a 36% drop in about six months. (A year later, in August 1974 when he resigned from office, Nixon's rating was 24%).
  •  I for one hopes the GOP goes into (1+ / 0-)
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    all crazy, all the time (not that they are not already there). I think they should be allowed to spew their looney views every chance they get. Bring on more Akins and Mourdocks; throw in some Cruz and Paul and Broun for good measure.

    Let them rave so that all may know them mad. Meanwhile Dems, it's time to work on messaging and look and act like adults, but don't be afraid to land a punch or two when the crazies throw one at you. It's a tough climb given the way the GOP has gerrymandered the districts, but climb we must.

    Guns are never the principle in the commission of a crime, but they are usually an accomplice

    by MadGeorgiaDem on Thu May 23, 2013 at 12:46:27 PM PDT

  •  A national generic ballot goes only so far (0+ / 0-)

    It's nice to see Dems with a large lead in the generic ballot, but the problem is that it's just a generic ballot.  Because of a mix of factors---incumbency bias, partisan redistricting, the tendency of liberals to aggregate in cities---that ballot doesn't directly translate into the corresponding number of seats.

  •  OK to be somewhat serious now (0+ / 0-)

    Hey Republicans/Righties/Corporate Press lets say you get President Obama to Resign well that means it's President Biden with a new Democratic Party Vice-President with The Speaker of the House who is Republican only in line till the very quick (like in less than 4 months) confirmation of Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi or maybe Elizabeth Warren cause any time longer and well being that Rockefeller was confirmed to be President Ford's Vice-President in like 4 months that delay and comparison will burn you and since the whole precedent of a President Resigning and having a member of the same party being installed as VP is a done deal your party ain't getting President Biden and Vice-President Boehner with a new Republican Speaker of the House in line to be President if President Biden can't keep being President with President Boehner having the whoever the Republican was who replaced Boehner as Speaker becoming Vice-President with a New New Republican Speaker being in line to Become President should Boehner step down with VP X-Republican becoming President X-Republican with Y-Republican Speaker becoming VP Y-Republican and a new Z-Republican becoming Speaker of the House and in line to become President,nope that scam won't work after VP Agnew and President Nixon was followed not by Speaker of the House Carl Albert and the new X-Democrat Speaker of the House but by Republicans.and here is a Thank You to Speaker of The House Carl Albert Democrat

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