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Rather difficult for children to perhaps live up to that standard, eh Mattel?  Hmmmmmm?

A disturbing chart that converts the doll's body scale into a real-life human being's reveals the outrageous proportions that transforms her into something out of a Sci-Fi movie.

Starting from the top down, Barbie's head would be two inches larger than the average American woman's while resting on a neck twice as long and six inches thinner. From these measurements she'd be entirely incapable of lifting her head.

Her 16-inch waist would also be four inches thinner than her head, leaving room for only half a liver and a few inches of intestine.

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  •  And If Ken Were Real (10+ / 0-)

    He would be infertile.

    "I'll believe that corporations are people when I see Rick Perry execute one."

    by bink on Sat May 25, 2013 at 04:53:31 AM PDT

  •  Been there... (2+ / 0-)
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    When extra-terrestrial beings make their first appearance on our planet, and ask for representatives of our species to best exemplify humanity, I'm sending a nurse, a librarian, and a firefighter.

    by Wayward Son on Sat May 25, 2013 at 05:01:05 AM PDT

  •  A feel-god story, but (5+ / 0-)

    did you see all the promotions for other stories, on the sidebar?

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    Kept cozy and warm

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    by dhonig on Sat May 25, 2013 at 05:06:10 AM PDT

    •  OMG, no wonder we're all crazy. (7+ / 0-)

      I read a funny tweet last night, "My friend wanted to feel like a princess for her wedding day, so I made her marry a man she never met in order to secure a French alliance." Michelle Wolf

      So I was thinking about American Princesses and Cowboys. I have a black and white pic of me from the fifties, wearing a cowboy hat and sitting on a pony. I was probably around four years old. I was an inner city kid. It seems so strange to me now. A cowboy? Cowboys move cows around. Now a space suit would have been cool. No wonder we're crazy.

      We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance.

      by PowWowPollock on Sat May 25, 2013 at 05:38:50 AM PDT

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    •  what more do you expect from the Daily Fail? (1+ / 0-)
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      but what struck me was that Barbie's bust measurement was the least bizarre of all.  The others were way way out of scale,but on this, the mismatch with reality wasn't.....gotta have good boobs!  Jeez, in a doll!

      •  Yeah, the DM missed something re: Barbie's boobs (4+ / 0-)

        Sure, because average women are much fuller figured, their breast size::height ratio is maybe similar to Barbie's.  But if the article had noted the ratio of Barbie's breast size::neck circumference, we would understand better that the only living woman who has a ratio anywhere near that, would be a severe anorexic with mega implants in her chest.

        I remember seeing one such woman at my gym one day a decade ago.  It was very uncomfortable to even look at her, dangerously thin and frail with a long blond dye-job and those impossibly huge round things in front of her.  

        Personally, though I am a gay man, if I were straight I'd totally go for the healthy, full-figured "J-Lo" body type in a woman, more than the extreme skinny.  I think most straight guys (and women who are attracted to women) feel the same.  There's a real disconnect between the doll/high-fashion body type, and what regular people actually find attractive and pleasing when it comes to actual physical intimacy.

        •  fashion models chosen to make clothes look good (3+ / 0-)
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          There's a real disconnect between the doll/high-fashion body type, and what regular people actually find attractive and pleasing when it comes to actual physical intimacy.
          Fashion has got cause and effect completely backward.  Models - both female and now male since there are laws against too-thin female models - are chosen in order to make the clothes they wear look good.  This means thin and flat.  Attractive bodies - both female and male - are comparatively broad, thick, and especially curvy; either they shape the clothes around themselves rather than letting the clothes seem to float freely to assume the shape of the design sketch - and fashion plates are given unrealistic proportions from the very beginning - or the bodies are completely concealed by the clothes, so why bother?

          At the same time, clothes meant to flatter attractive bodies don't offer very many opportunities for actual design: they're invariably simple, form-fitting, and as revealing as possible.

    •  Even crazier when you learn 1 in 10 women have (2+ / 0-)
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      by Wee Mama on Sat May 25, 2013 at 07:10:28 AM PDT

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      •  I'd never heard of that- (0+ / 0-)

        but I guess from a health perspective that would be less dangerous than accumulation of fat around the waistline, which they're now saying is a better measure of health risk than either weight/height ratio or BMI.

        •  Waistline fat is predictive of heart disease. (1+ / 0-)
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          Lipedema can lead to immobility which then can lead to other bad stuff.

          I'm pretty sure looking back that my mother had lipedema, and that it accounts for her leg pain in her last 15 years and her immobility then.



          Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

          by Wee Mama on Sat May 25, 2013 at 10:44:15 AM PDT

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          •  True, heart disease seems the biggest risk, (1+ / 0-)
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            but also stroke, diabetes, certain cancers- and now I think there are studies linking to brain health.
            I think my paternal grandmother might have had lipedema.
            Although I was a little kid when she died and only saw her in a dress, her legs did look pretty big- and she also had leg pain issues and then immobility issues.
            None of it's good, that's for sure.

    •  Heh. (0+ / 0-)

      Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater though.

      What would Mothra do?

      by dov12348 on Sat May 25, 2013 at 07:16:25 AM PDT

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    •  NEWS FLASH... ... ... (5+ / 0-)

      Favorite childrens toy "Teddy Bear" could not exist if it was a real bear...

      Scientists translated the proportions of the toy to those of a real American Black Bear.  Some of the things they found include:

       * Despite being a thousand pounds heaver than a real bear, the teddy bear couldn't eat since it's mouth was sewn up...

       * Teddy would be unable to defend itself because he has no claws...

      My bolding.

      More details to come...

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      by Josiah Bartlett on Sat May 25, 2013 at 07:44:52 AM PDT

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  •  One of the conversations that (2+ / 0-)
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    my women's studies students get really engaged in is the topic of Barbie dolls - most of them had one when younger.

    We have them read Susan Jane Gilman's article, "Klaus Barbie, and Other Dolls I'd Like to See".

    Lively discussion ensues about how Barbie (and Ken) distort and shape perceptions of beauty image, race, and gender norms in children.

    thanks for this link - will save it for next semester.

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    by Denise Oliver Velez on Sat May 25, 2013 at 05:33:49 AM PDT

  •  of course this has been noted for decades (1+ / 0-)
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    but has not stopped generations of growing girls from aspiring to the "perfect" 36-24-36 and generations of maturing boys from expecting this "perfection".

    I just point out to folks that Barbie was based on a  "hooker" doll conceived by a Swiss toymaker and marketed as "Lilli"
    http://www.dolls4play.com/...

    •  Boys don't generally give a shit (4+ / 0-)

      about Barbie. It is a bit of a stretch to believe that mens' image of an ideal woman is based on a doll played with by little girls. It's just a doll, not an idol.

      •  Yes, this article was more for the ones... (0+ / 0-)

        ...who might or may have been once deluded into thinking they should be like this.

        What would Mothra do?

        by dov12348 on Sat May 25, 2013 at 07:21:08 AM PDT

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      •  boys have steroidal action figures to warp them (1+ / 0-)
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        Boys and young men grow up surrounded by images of muscular physiques that are impossible to achieve not only without gallons of steroids (and the associated health problems), but without the appropriate genes as well.  It's common knowledge in the bodybuilding community that the best of the best were born that way, and even if steroids were somehow banned, they'd still be the biggest.  Boys and young men likewise grow up with expectations of physical beauty and performance that they can never live up to no matter how hard they try, and are told that they are lesser beings - unworthy of women's love and other men's respect - because of it.

        Just as if Barbie went back to her highly aesthetic but still [theoretically] broadly attainable 1950s appearance - reminiscent of full-figured women like Marylin Monroe (vs. the Kate Moss with implants of today) - if boys' action figures and comic book heroes went back to the kind of visibly muscular but still [theoretically] broadly attainable physiques that dominated the imagination up to the late 1970s - when routine steroid use became the norm in bodybuilding and redefined the ultimate male body - it'd do a lot to improve men's body image issues.  Up to a point this has already happened with the development of "natural" bodybuilding that forsakes steroid use, as well as a broad cultural shift towards slender, almost adolescent male bodies in media.

        Beauty ideals are not bad in and of themselves, but only when they leave the realm of the healthy and realistic.

        •  Good point- we read a lot about (0+ / 0-)

          women and body image, but not enough about men. My older brothers were tall and lanky teenagers (which a lot of teenage girls find attractive), but there was some ad (Charles Atlas, I think) in the back of comic books that convinced them that some muscle-bound guy would kick sand in their faces at the beach.
          There's no health warning to this story- they just got weights and muscled up a bit- but this was before the steroid craze. It is a reminder, however, that body image issues are not limited to girls.

          •  Well said. (0+ / 0-)

            American adolescent men spend a lot of time, money, worry/fretting, bad food choices, and other self-destructive choices to try and fit some unhealthy body-building image. They lose flexibility, and by the time they're 50 most of the weight ends up in their stomach area, and their eating habits are fixed. I remember thin guys who'd drink >1,000 calorie milkshakes (w/ eggs, added oil, protein powder, etc.) before bed, in hope of putting on weight.

        •  The original Barbie was even MORE grotesque (0+ / 0-)

          The modern versions actually attempt to introduce a tiny bit of realism.

          Yeah, it's still a fashion doll, and fashion dolls have ALWAYS been about selling clothes - check out their history!

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          Not your body,
          Then it's
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          by TheOtherMaven on Sat May 25, 2013 at 01:23:25 PM PDT

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    •  A lot more boys are influenced by comics (4+ / 0-)
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      Than Barbie dolls. Look up the work of Rob Liefeld sometime, if you want to see unrealistic body images.

      First they came for the farm workers, and I said nothing.

      by Hannibal on Sat May 25, 2013 at 07:05:03 AM PDT

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  •  the article compares Barbie to an (4+ / 0-)

    average American woman. Why is that the apt comparison? Barbie's body is unrealistic to be sure, but the right comparison would have been versus a real woman who has an above-average body. That a child would want to play with a doll who is above average in terms of physical attractiveness is understandable. Plus-size Barbie just would not sell like impossible model Barbie. Mattel likely understands what sells after all these years.

    •  I had a Tammy doll and a Barbie (0+ / 0-)

      Compared to Barbie the Tammy doll was positively obese.  But Tammy was a lot closer to reality.

    •  Doc, the comparison is apt because (0+ / 0-)

      the girls who play with Barbie dolls grow up, on average, to be average-sized women.  The gap between their childhood doll's body proportions, and their own later as teenager/young woman, is worth noting.  That's more the point, re: this particular article.

      •  Yeah but who wants to play with a doll (1+ / 0-)
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        just because she has your future proportions? That is a false assumption IMO. There are lots of different dolls available at my local Toys R Us. Every girl has got a choice of not only different shades of Barbie, but dozens of other dolls of varying proportions. Barbie seems to be the most popular though, generation after generation. But it is not the only doll out there. The American Girl dolls look more like normal-proportioned people, for what it's worth, and they have quite a following as well. Maybe there will be a Hannah Horvath doll soon, and she'll outsell Barbie, and this whole controversy will die. But I doubt it.

        •  That's true, there is much more (0+ / 0-)

          variation in the doll world today, yet Barbie remains a favorite. I've always been on the fence, Barbie-wise- didn't really like them but when my tomboy daughter wanted them, I didn't resist. Her Barbies ran around saving people from myriad disasters.
          Barbie is hardly single-handedly responsible for women having body image issues- women used to voluntarily strap themselves into corsets and other instruments of torture to get that wasp-like waist look. Go figure.

          •  I think the corset pre-dated (1+ / 0-)
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            Barbie by a century or two, so I am skeptical that she is "single-handedly" responsible for much of anything. I played with GI Joe but I don't recall ever thinking or ever hearing a friend express the sentiment that we should grow up to look exactly like him, or have a Kung Fu grip. These are 8 inch tall dolls, so while their proportions may be deemed attractive their absolute height is not. In a society in which tall is generally viewed as good, I don't really see how these tiny figures are anything close to ideal.

            •  I pretty much agree- I think kids are smart, (1+ / 0-)
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              and see dolls as something other than human. I think they're more likely to look to real people, especially celebrities, for "ideal" image models.
              Which could get confusing- when Marilyn Monroe was the ideal, I thought I was too slender. Then it was Twiggy and I thought I was too curvy. As someone said above, no wonder we're nuts.

    •  Any woman has room... (0+ / 0-)

      ...for a whole liver.

      What would Mothra do?

      by dov12348 on Sat May 25, 2013 at 07:22:07 AM PDT

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      •  Well, we all need a liver, even (0+ / 0-)

        beautiful women. But you do not need a large intestine, not even an inch of one. Or a spleen. If you want a tiny wait there are plenty of organs that can be sacrificed.

        •  I don't think that option would... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...be entering a child's mind.

          What would Mothra do?

          by dov12348 on Sat May 25, 2013 at 07:43:02 AM PDT

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        •  My baby sister had (1+ / 0-)
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          a 17" waist when she married. Big bazoombas too (the other sisters and I were quite put-out that she got the entire family's allotment) too. Then she had three children, no longer looks much like Barbie.

          Honestly, if neither Victorian age whalebone lace-up corsets nor 10 pound babies require removal of organs and intestines, claiming human women can't do either without surgery is just silly. Besides, if surgery were required for that waspish waist, it would probably be ribs that need to go...

  •  Not To Mention Those Awful Slut Shoes nt (0+ / 0-)

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Sat May 25, 2013 at 06:04:30 AM PDT

  •  The Shirley Temple doll was my favorite and (0+ / 0-)

    I preferred Midge over Barbie :) I'm brunette.

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    by roseeriter on Sat May 25, 2013 at 06:51:59 AM PDT

  •  It's a doll people (1+ / 0-)
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    There is no claim of Barbie being a scale model human woman. This is as dumb as comparing a teddy bear to a real bear.

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    by jhecht on Sat May 25, 2013 at 07:07:31 AM PDT

  •  Mattel had planned to start a Divorced Barbie (0+ / 0-)

    Collection. Standard Barbie was going to continue selling for US$24.99 and Divorced Barbie would sell for US$78.99. When asked about the price difference, Mattel PR said that Divorced Barbie came with Ken's house, Ken's car, and Ken's boat.

    I voted with my feet. Good Bye and Good Luck America!!

    by shann on Sat May 25, 2013 at 08:40:34 AM PDT

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