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Today's Republican Party, with its Ted Cruzes, Rand Pauls, Richard Murdocks and Todd Akins, certainly brings new meaning to the saying "bat shit crazy". Today's Republican Party. with its Mitch McConnells, John Boehners, Lindsey Grahams, and Darrel Isas, certainly brings new meaning to the saying "dirty, no-good, rotten old sonuvabitches". But not so long along - actually within my lifetime - there was a very good and decent Republican. Actually, a great Republican, and he was even a Republican President. He was this guy:

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Dwight David “Ike” Eisenhower came from a family of immigrants, and like so many immigrants worked their way up from dirt poor to middle class through hard work. The Eisenhauer (German for “iron hewer”) family migrated from Germany. The Eisenhower family settled in York, Pennsylvania, in 1730, and in the 1880s they moved to Kansas. At some point the German name Eisenhauer was changed to a more American spelling of Eisenhower. Dwight’s father, David Jacob Eisenhower, was a college educated engineer. Eisenhower’s mother, Ida Elizabeth Stover, born in Virginia of German Lutheran ancestry, moved to Kansas from Virginia. She met David Eisenhower when they were both attending college, and they married in September 1885. David owned a general store in Hope, Kansas, but the business failed due to economic conditions and the family became impoverished. The Eisenhowers then lived in Texas from 1889 until 1892, and later returned to Kansas, with $24 to their name. David worked as a mechanic with a railroad and then with a creamery. By 1898, the family was self-sustaining with suitable accommodations for their large family, and set about on doing just that. Eisenhower was born on October 14, 1890, the third of seven boys. All of the boys were called “Ike”, such as “Big Ike” (Edgar) and “Little Ike” (Dwight); the nickname was intended as an abbreviation of their last name. As a child, Dwight was involved in an accident that cost his younger brother an eye; he later referred to this as an experience teaching him the need to be protective of those under him. Dwight attended Abilene High School and graduated with the class of 1909. He and brother Edgar both wanted to attend college, though they lacked the funds. They agreed to take alternate years at college while the other worked, in order to earn the tuitions. Edgar went to college first while Dwight was worked as a night supervisor at a creamery. At the end of the year Edgar pleaded for a second year in college as he was enjoying it so much, and Dwight deferred to his brother and continued working.  During that second year a friend was applying to the Naval Academy and urged Dwight to apply to the school, since no tuition was required. Eisenhower requested consideration for either Annapolis or West Point with his U.S. Senator, Joseph L. Bristow. Though Eisenhower was among the winners of the entrance-exam competition, he was beyond the age limit for the Naval Academy. He then accepted an appointment to West Point in 1911. At West Point Dwight as at best an average student, and graduated in the middle of the class of 1915. Dwight was first stationed in Texas, and it was there that me met and fell in love with  Mamie Geneva Doud, his beloved “Mamie”. He proposed to her on Valentine’s Day in 1916, and they were married on July 1 of that year, and remained married for the next 53 years, until Dwight’s death in 1969. Dwight had a very successful military career, continually promoted to higher and higher positions. In December 1943, President Roosevelt appointed Eisenhower  Supreme Allied Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force. Eisenhower planned and led the famous D-Day Invasion of Normandy, and the subsequent operations that led to the unconditional surrender of Nazi Germany less than one year later.

General Eisenhower was immensely popular for his successes in WWII, and As the 1948 election approached, Eisenhower was repeatedly urged by both the Democrats and Republicans to run for president. President Truman even offering to serve as his Vice-President if he would agree to run as president on the Democratic ticket. Eisenhower maintained no political party affiliation during this time. He firmly declined all the offers and many believed he was foregoing his only opportunity to be president –  Thomas E. Dewey was considered the probable winner, would presumably serve two terms, and Eisenhower, at age 66 in 1956, would then be too old. Despite a certain Chicago newspaper headline proclaiming otherwise, Truman defeated Dewy. In 1951 President Truman again pressed Eisenhower to run for the office as a Democrat. It was at this time that Eisenhower voiced his disdain for the Democratic party and declared himself and his family to be Republicans. A “Draft Eisenhower” movement in the Republican Party persuaded him to declare his candidacy in the 1952 presidential election to counter the candidacy of non-interventionist Senator Robert Taft, who he narrowly defeated for the Republican nomination. Eisenhower ran a strong campaign and defeated Democrat Adlai Stevenson in a landslide, the first Republican elected President in 20 years. He also managed to bring with a Republican majority in Congress, also the first time in 20 years. Eisenhower’s campaign was noted for the simple but effective slogan, “I Like Ike”.
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Eisenhower was reelected in 1956, defeating Stevenson a second time, in an even greater landslide. Throughout his presidency, Eisenhower adhered to a political philosophy of a moderate, progressive Republicanism:  He said: “I have just one purpose … and that is to build up a strong progressive Republican Party in this country. If the right wing wants a fight, they are going to get it … before I end up, either this Republican Party will reflect progressivism or I won’t be with them anymore.” He continued all the major New Deal programs still in operation and expanded  Social Security programs and rolled them into a new cabinet-level agency, the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, while extending benefits to an additional ten million workers. While President Truman had begun the process of desegregating the Armed Forces in 1948, actual implementation had been slow. Eisenhower made clear his stance in his first State of the Union message in February 1953, saying “I propose to use whatever authority exists in the office of the President to end segregation in the District of Columbia, including the Federal Government, and any segregation in the Armed Forces“. When he encountered opposition from the services, he used government control of military spending to force the change through. The day after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Brown v. Board of Education, that segregated schools were unconstitutional, Eisenhower told District of Columbia officials to make Washington a model for the rest of the country in integrating black and white public school children. He proposed to Congress the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 and signed those acts into law. The 1957 act for the first time established a permanent civil rights office inside the Justice Department and a Civil Rights Commission to hear testimony about abuses of voting rights. In 1957, the state of Arkansas refused to honor a federal court order to integrate their public school system stemming from the Brown decision. Eisenhower demanded that Arkansas governor Orval Faubus obey the court order. When Faubus balked, the president placed the Arkansas National Guard under federal control and sent in the 101st Airborne Division. They escorted and protected nine black students’ entry to Little Rock Central High School, an all-white public school, for the first time since the Reconstruction era.
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We baby boomers look back at the Eisenhower years as a period of peace and prosperity, with strong economic growth and an ever increasing middle class. It was the time when television took it’s place in the American home, and families would gather round to watch shows like Leave it to Beaver, Ozzie and Harriet, The Honeymooners and I Love Lucy. It was Eisenhower who nominated Earl Warren as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, leading the “Warren Court” to make so many decisions that led to much greater equality and justice in our country: Brown v. Board of Education, that banned racial segregation of public schools. Gideon v. Wainwright, which that all criminal defendants receive publicly funded defense counsel if they could not afford one themselves. Miranda v. Arizona, which led to the “Miranda Warning”, that everyone charged with a crime must be advised of his rights to remain silent until he has been advised by an attorney. And two of Eisenhower’s greatest legislative achievements still foster and promote economic growth today. In cooperation with Canada, we built the St. Lawrence Seaway, a series of canals and channels that connected all the Great Lakes to the St. Lawrence River, opening up ports deep in our Midwest to the Atlantic Ocean. And it was Eisenhower who pushed through and signed the bill that authorized the Interstate Highway System in 1956. He managed to overcome opposition claiming the project was “too expensive” and that we “couldn’t afford it” (sound familiar?) by promoting it as essential to American security during the Cold War. It was believed that large cities would be targets in a possible war, hence the highways were designed to facilitate their evacuation and ease military maneuvers. But he also believed an interstate highway system would lead to greater economic growth, and he was right.

Although known for, and probably elected President, as a great military leader, Eisenhower knew first hand the horrors of war and deftly kept us out of war. And it was Dwight Eisenhower who first warned us of the dangers of the Military-Industrial Complex:

“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."
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On Fox News Sunday this morning former Senator and Republican Presidential Candidate Bob Dole said that he didn’t think he could make it in today’s Republican Party, and he didn’t think Ronald Reagan or Richard Nixon could either. I thinks he’s right, and would certainly add Dwight D. Eisenhower to the list. Dwight D. Eisenhower was a thoughtful man, a decent man, a man of principle, a man committed to doing what was right - right for the country, right for it's people, not what's just best for his own political party. And people like that need not apply to today's Republican Party.

But, I'll leave it at that. Memorial Day should not be a day for partisan politics. It is a day to honor people like Dwight D. Eisenhower and the Greatest Generation would saved us from Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. It is day to honor the millions of brave men and women who serve and served with honor, distinction, and bravery wearing the uniform of our great nation. All gave some, and some gave all. God bless them, God bless their families. And may God bless every one else in this world, bless them and get them to see that war and violence should have no place in this world. More than enough have died, more than enough have suffered.

Originally posted to Baja Arizona Kossacks on Sun May 26, 2013 at 03:50 PM PDT.

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    David Koch, a teacher and a Tea Partier sit down a table with a plate of a dozen cookies. Koch quickly stuffs 11 cookies in his pockets, leans to the bagger and says "watch out, the union thug will try to steal your cookie".

    by Dave in AZ on Sun May 26, 2013 at 03:50:05 PM PDT

  •  Hey Dave, long time no see. (11+ / 0-)

    We're having another meet-up, I'll post an Open Thread at 5. Nice piece of history, T&R.

    The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

    by Azazello on Sun May 26, 2013 at 04:03:00 PM PDT

  •  My Facebook tomorrow will be quotes from greats (15+ / 0-)

    about the horrors of war--Ike's "I hate war" quote, Paine has a good one, Sherman, Lee, etc.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Sun May 26, 2013 at 04:39:42 PM PDT

    •  Way OT, but what 'War is hell' quote are you (1+ / 0-)
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      attributing to Lee? Surely not his comment to Longstreet at Fredericksburg that "It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it." I've never read that quote as a 'war is hell' sentiment. More like a "Goddamnit, James, but am I not the great strategist who can successfully position and entrench my inferior forces to mow down and massacre superior advancing forces. Ain't it grand?"

      Longstreet said that Lee had his bloodlust up at Gettysburg and refused Longstreet's counsel to maneuver around Meade but instead sought pitched battle with Meade. I'm not giving Massa Lee any credit for 'war is hell' sentiments.

      •  Sherman: "War is hell" (1+ / 0-)
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        "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

        by zenbassoon on Mon May 27, 2013 at 02:57:51 PM PDT

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        •  Yeah, I guess I wondered what quote of (0+ / 0-)

          Lee you planned to use to demonstrate Lee's horror of war, when one reading of the historical record suggests that Lee was not horrified by war in the slightest and got his rocks off on a good battle.

          •  Lee's quote: (0+ / 0-)

            "It is well that war is so terrible-otherwise we would grow too fond of it"

            "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

            by zenbassoon on Mon May 27, 2013 at 05:31:08 PM PDT

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            •  Said as his numerically inferior but well- (0+ / 0-)

              entrenched forces mowed down advancing Union troops at Fredericksburg, like so many scythes through fields of wheat.

              That is no 'war is hell' sentiment, more like "Ain't war grand . . . except for the casualties bit?"

              Sorry to keep beating a dead horse, but I'm really sick and tired of Lee being held up as some sort of anti-war paragon when there's ample evidence that he had a serious case of bloodlust.

  •  Not found in this diary: "coup" or "mccarthy". (27+ / 0-)

    Eisenhower removed democratically elected heads of state in Iran and Guatemala, and tried but failed in Indonesia.

    He was a better man and a better president than any Republican successor, but omitting the bad stuff yields an unbalanced picture.

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Sun May 26, 2013 at 04:46:41 PM PDT

    •  But I Think Ike May Be the Sole President in Our (30+ / 0-)

      history to characterize military materiel as a theft from the people.

      We have sitting Democratic Presidents still committing mayhem against 3rd world countries. This is a featrue not a bug of America, so it's unfortunately not a criterion available for differentiating from greater and lesser, better or worse parties or their Presidents.

      A warship is a theft from the hungry. That's far closer to Marx than Obama or even LBJ.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sun May 26, 2013 at 07:51:41 PM PDT

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      •  maybe it takes someone who's seen war (6+ / 0-)

        on the macro scale first hand to comprehend that. Or rather, seeing war on the macro scale with budgets in millions and billions makes it harder to not be reminded what is being not funded.

        ALso Eisenhower was in the position as a war leader and hero to be able to say this without any blowback. A unique position I think in this century. No one would question his military chops or patriotism.

        •  Even with that cover, he waited until his (2+ / 0-)
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          "farewell" to give his famous MIC warning.  

          "If you don't read the newspapers, you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- M. Twain

          by Oliver St John Gogarty on Mon May 27, 2013 at 04:24:54 AM PDT

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          •  The "Every gun that is made..." speech was from (8+ / 0-)

            1953, the "Chance for peace" address.

            He was elected to end the war in Korea - and actually did it.   In less than a year.

            He slashed our military budget by more than 40% and it took his entire Presidency for the Congress to creep it back up to basically the same level on nudge at a time.

            He did more to oppose the MIC than any post-war President ever has, and he didn't wait until the end to start doing so.

            That ought to be seen as cause to weep, though.  That soft resistance was the best we've managed as a nation in 70 years.

            "The thing about smart motherfuckers is that they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers." Robert Kirkman

            by JesseCW on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:08:06 AM PDT

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            •  Here's another quote that applies today (9+ / 0-)


              We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security
              .  

              Imagine any leading figure in either party uttering such a heresy today.

              Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

              by RFK Lives on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:47:28 AM PDT

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            •  He would be eviscerated on Fox. . . (6+ / 0-)

              And, even more disturbingly, it wouldn't matter that he was a great military hero.

              If a politician stood up today and said that every gun made was a theft of food, medicine. etc. the first word out of every Fox talking head would be. . . Communist.

              Today, the right views people that are concerned with food, medicine, clean water and such to be a subversive threat, un-American.

              Goes to show the power of the elite to change the psyche of millions to keep filling their pockets.

              Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick. Message to Repug Fundies: "DO you really wonder "what would Jesus do?" I didn't think so.

              by 4CasandChlo on Mon May 27, 2013 at 10:08:21 AM PDT

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              •  If we lower the bar to "at least you're not (1+ / 0-)
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                hurling your shit at the moon" though, we do their work for them.

                Domestically, Ike was a reasonable opponent.  It's nice to have reasonable opponents.  But we shouldn't let ourselves get so disgusted by the Birchers or the Tea Party that we forget how progressive Stevenson was.

                People are saying in some of the comments here that Ike was a Democrat, or that the people who voted for him were...it just wasn't so.

                Stevenson was a Democrat, and the people who voted for him were Democrats, and if we forget that we might as well just pack it up.

                "The thing about smart motherfuckers is that they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers." Robert Kirkman

                by JesseCW on Mon May 27, 2013 at 11:21:07 AM PDT

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        •  Ghosts (3+ / 0-)

          Eisenhower didn't just see it. He was a man who had to send men to die. He crafted the D-Day invasion, which was brilliant, necessary, and would be successful at a horrible cost.

          I'm sure those casualties haunted him the rest of his life, and colored who he was as a man. Those ghosts sat beside him every day he sat at Teddy Rooseveldt's desk.

          Today, having so many politicians in office who never saw what a soldier sees or who have had to make the choices a commander has to make is a real loss for us as a country. They don't have those ghosts reminding them what it costs to fulfill their policies.

          I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that his justice cannot sleep forever. - Thomas Jefferson

          by MightyMoose on Mon May 27, 2013 at 08:19:56 AM PDT

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    •  Sorry Ike doesn't pass your purity test. And (11+ / 0-)

      congrats on missing the point. Memorial Day, a day off honoring those whose sacrifices enable us to be here with different opinions.

      David Koch, a teacher and a Tea Partier sit down a table with a plate of a dozen cookies. Koch quickly stuffs 11 cookies in his pockets, leans to the bagger and says "watch out, the union thug will try to steal your cookie".

      by Dave in AZ on Sun May 26, 2013 at 07:55:31 PM PDT

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      •  I wouldn't say he was imposing (14+ / 0-)

        a "purity test".  After all, he did say Ike was a better man and a better president than any Republican successor. Sure, there were somethings that should not have been done (Iran, Guatamela), but he also did a lot of good and may have been privately displeased when Nixon began dismantling his work.  

        Eisenhower died in March, 1969, when such dismantling was not readily apparent.  However, what if he had lived another three or four years when the Southern Strategy became apparent and after the failed nominations of Haynsworth and Carswell?  Would have me made known his displeasure then, or would have he stayed silent? I'd like to think he would have said "Well, if that's the way Dick is taking the party, I'm out!"

        I'm not sure I would have cited Warren's nomination as an example.  Yes, he nominated Warren, but didn't he later say (after his presidency) that he regretted it?

        "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

        by TLS66 on Sun May 26, 2013 at 08:50:44 PM PDT

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        •  Small typo there (0+ / 0-)

          I meant "he", not "me" in the second paragraph.  It sucks you can't edit comments after you post.

          "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

          by TLS66 on Sun May 26, 2013 at 10:34:30 PM PDT

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        •  How could he have been "privately displeased" (0+ / 0-)

          if he died only two months into Nixon's administration?  Roll over in the grave, I could see.

          I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use -- Galileo Galilei

          by ccyd on Mon May 27, 2013 at 05:44:18 AM PDT

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          •  Maybe he got an inkling before he died (2+ / 0-)
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            For example, maybe he didn't like Nixon's selection of Agnew as VP.  Maybe he saw some of Nixon's "Southern Strategy" during the '68 campaign.  It wasn't until after Ike died,  though, that that strategy became apparent.

            There was a joke at the time about a woman who fell into a coma in 1960 and woke up 10 years later.  She asked the nurse how President Eisenhower was, and the nurse informed her Eisenhower was dead and the woman replied "Oh no! Then Nixon is president!"

            "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

            by TLS66 on Mon May 27, 2013 at 08:40:17 AM PDT

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      •  sorry (8+ / 0-)

        that not overthrowing democratically governments and not enabling joe mccarthy is the standard of purity. not to mention being good and decent.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Sun May 26, 2013 at 09:30:29 PM PDT

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      •  Sure you took enought time of from dkos? (7+ / 0-)

        It was a reasonable comment, and agreed with your main point that Ike was a better R-President than those that followed.

        Every comment exchange does not have to devolve into a battle, but can be an exchange.

        Thanks for the diary.

        Don't trust anyone over 84414

        by BentLiberal on Sun May 26, 2013 at 09:34:23 PM PDT

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      •  Steady on there cowboy! (5+ / 0-)

        The Diarist can do a lot to set the tone of comment threads.

        Let's keep it civil. We can disagree without throwing epithets around :)

        It's an excellent Diary, let's not spoil it

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        Who is twigg?

        by twigg on Sun May 26, 2013 at 09:45:00 PM PDT

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        •  Yes, the "purity test" was a testy response, and I (7+ / 0-)

          apologize for it. It can just be so annoying when folks seem to read diaries just to find something to snipe at. I said he was a good and decent man & President, I didn't say he was perfect.

          And as for the comment "Not found in this diary: "coup" or "mccarthy"", Eisenhower did oppose Joe McCarthy. Although he did initially avoid challenging McCarthy, saying "I will not get into the gutter with this guy." But by the end of 1953, when McCarthy set out to expose communists within the U.S. Army, Eisenhower decided enough was enough. He instructed his staff to present information that would discredit McCarthy. It was revealed that McCarthy had petitioned the Army to award preferential treatment to his assistant. And then Eisenhower exerted pressure on Republican senators to go forward with a censure of McCarthy, which it did in December 1954.

          http://www.pbs.org/...

          As for "coup", Eisenhower did apparently support the CIA planning for coups overthrowing leaders in Iran and Guatemala. It would have been better if I had included that info for balance.

          David Koch, a teacher and a Tea Partier sit down a table with a plate of a dozen cookies. Koch quickly stuffs 11 cookies in his pockets, leans to the bagger and says "watch out, the union thug will try to steal your cookie".

          by Dave in AZ on Mon May 27, 2013 at 06:19:51 AM PDT

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      •  p.s. the comenter rec'd your diary (1+ / 0-)
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        Don't trust anyone over 84414

        by BentLiberal on Sun May 26, 2013 at 11:18:13 PM PDT

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      •  I think the point (1+ / 0-)
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        is that Ike was no pacifist. He warned against giving too much power to those who stood to profit from war, but he certainly supported having the capability to make war when required. He just wanted the power to do it to remain in the hands of the politicians and generals rather than the military contractors who benefit from perpetual demand for their wares.

        "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

        by happy camper on Mon May 27, 2013 at 08:47:18 AM PDT

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      •  Unbalanced hagiography honors no one. (2+ / 0-)
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        "The thing about smart motherfuckers is that they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers." Robert Kirkman

        by JesseCW on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:12:09 AM PDT

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      •  Since you didn't, someone else need to point out (0+ / 0-)

        he wasn't a saint.

        Our opinions don't really differ. You just left out part of the truth.

        "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

        by Bob Love on Mon May 27, 2013 at 04:07:30 PM PDT

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    •  Would a diary about John Adams (3+ / 0-)
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      be required to mention The Alien and Sedition Acts? A diary about FDR have to mention Japanese internment and a segregated army? A diary about Jefferson need to mention his attempts to remove the Cherokee and Shawnee nations or his keeping slaves, including his children?

      Yes, the coups in Iran and Guatemala were not only bad policy but wrong morally. But all Presidents have had policies that we do not agree with, policies that are reprehensible. The fact is that if you or I or any human being were President, there would be some policies which would be objectionable.

      Yes, we need to remember those reprehensible policies of every President, but is it necessary to mention them every time?

      You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

      by sewaneepat on Mon May 27, 2013 at 06:17:24 AM PDT

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      •  If a diary purported to be about his Presidency (2+ / 0-)
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        then YES, it should mention the Alien and Sedition acts.

        YES any diary pining for the FDR of yesteryear and written to suggest it was an effort to cover his whole Presidency should talk about Japanese Internment and FDR's early steps toward desegregation of the Army.

        "The thing about smart motherfuckers is that they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers." Robert Kirkman

        by JesseCW on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:16:07 AM PDT

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        •  Educational (3+ / 0-)
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          One of the values of DKos is that good diaries, and good comments, are educational- for me they fill in pieces of history that I have not previously learned. A diary about any topic that presents a balanced and complete picture is more valuable for providing a larger perspective.

          "Political ends as sad remains will die." - YES 'And You and I' ; -8.88, -9.54

          by US Blues on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:40:29 AM PDT

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      •  Would it be required? (1+ / 0-)
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        Well, that's up to the diarist. There's no explicit requirement. But if an important part of a President's legacy is left out in a diary posted on a Progressive blog, the diary author would be naive to think it won't be brought up in the comments.

        Don't trust anyone over 84414

        by BentLiberal on Mon May 27, 2013 at 12:07:52 PM PDT

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        •  I think that often in diaries posted here, (1+ / 0-)
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          it depends on whether the person in question is one of the pantheon of heroes or not.

          I did not take the diary to be an exhaustive critique of the Eisenhower administration or the man himself.  I took it to be a diary pointing out that it was not so long ago that there were good and decent men in the Republican party. It was not a diary that the man was perfect or even that he was a better choice than Adlai Stevenson. Just that there were decent Republican Presidents and decent Republicans - a far cry from today.

          There has never been a President whose policies were all perfect. And I doubt that there is a single diary here that has presented all the good and all the bad about any President written about. Do you really think that all diaries about Roosevelt have included a disclaimer about Japanese internment or that all diaries about JFK have included a disclaimer about his Cuban policy - or his Iranian policy for that matter? Of course not. A 500 or so word essay is not a history course.

          Now we have a diary on the rec list that apparently says that Eisenhower was not a good and decent person because of Iran and Guatemala. Do you think that diarist would write a diary saying "do good and decent people inter innocent civilians solely on the basis of their ancestors' country of origin?" How about "do good and decent people own other people?" or "do good and decent people  try to remove people from the lands of their ancestors?"

          If being a good and decent person means that one has never done anything evil, then I doubt there is a good and decent person on this earth.

          You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

          by sewaneepat on Mon May 27, 2013 at 01:09:02 PM PDT

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          •  I'm trying to get it (1+ / 0-)
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            but I"m not getting your point, sorry. You seem to not like comments that critique a diary, is all I'm getting.

            This diarist thought Ike was good and decent. Some commenter thought it was not true and gave reasons why.
            In the other diary you mention -- there are comments defending Eisenhower. This is normal site operation. I don't see the problem with either occurrence.

            You last sentence really confuse me.  "Evil" is a very powerful word. Everyone has made mistakes and has regrets. Very few people have done something truly evil.

            Don't trust anyone over 84414

            by BentLiberal on Mon May 27, 2013 at 03:16:01 PM PDT

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            •  I agree that evil was too strong a word. (0+ / 0-)

              I plead being in a hurry.

              I am just disagreeing with those  who say Eisenhower was not " good and decent" because of Iran and Guatemala, that it is impossible to be "good and decent" no matter what else a President does if he also has some bad policies.  And my point is that there seems to be a different standard for some people than there is for our heroes. After all, Kennedy supported the Shah (knowing about his policies) for  the same reason Eisenhower supported the coup - fear of Communism.

              Seeing everything in black and white almost always seems simplistic to me.

              You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

              by sewaneepat on Mon May 27, 2013 at 04:44:03 PM PDT

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              •  Thanks for taking the time to explain further (1+ / 0-)
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                I understand better what you're saying now. (I had it wrong, I thought you were originally talking about some diarists were heroes and some not, sorry!)

                Anyway, your comment just now reminded me of this diary once penned by One Pissed Off Liberal, a couple of years ago. I just did a search on it -- link below.   Not that you were saying the exact same thing, but it did remind me of it.

                I Don't Blame Obama

                Don't trust anyone over 84414

                by BentLiberal on Mon May 27, 2013 at 05:24:29 PM PDT

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      •  The answer to each question is yes, (0+ / 0-)

        because the unpleasant stuff is generally not part of the history we're taught.

        "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

        by Bob Love on Mon May 27, 2013 at 04:14:57 PM PDT

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    •  No "drone strikes", either. (0+ / 0-)

      The patellar reflex is a deep tendon reflex which allows one to keep one's balance with little effort or conscious thought.

      by SpamNunn on Mon May 27, 2013 at 06:23:01 AM PDT

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  •  Ike (11+ / 0-)

    Was the only Republican my parents, aunts and uncles ever voted for.  Too bad he'd never survive in today's Republicon Party.

    Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

    by Rosalie907 on Sun May 26, 2013 at 08:49:56 PM PDT

    •  Bringing back some memories. My Dad, who (1+ / 0-)
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      would later become a Democratic Socialist, was a young Marine Corp vet wounded in Korea in 1952. He told me he voted for Ike in 1952 but "didn't make that mistake again" (in '56).

      My father grew up in the racist Bible Belt and his political evolution (having served in Truman's integrated USMC) proves that everyone can grow and evolve. No one (except maybe the KKK and John Birch Society) should be written off entirely.

  •  my great aunt and uncle were big ike fans and (2+ / 0-)
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    he bought a 55 buick roadmaster at an auction to raise money for the party and it was supposed to have been a fishing car for ike on vacation. was in the family till 5 years ago.

    but if the old republicans were 1/4 as crooked as the ones today it was probably a sales job....

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Sun May 26, 2013 at 09:13:48 PM PDT

  •  Ike was a good guy (0+ / 0-)

    no shit.
    what is the point of this diary?
    once in a land far far away..
    there was a good Repub?
    a long long time ago? ...

    •  because no more (2+ / 0-)
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      the GOP is completely useless now
      I wish we could get rid of it

      •  we CAN get rid of it... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... all we have to do is vote the bastards out of office... which is gonna be difficult considering how the media are in the bag for the right wing, since they're owned by them, for the most part...

        G*d help us all if the Koch Brothers manage to buy the Tribune Company...

        Help American return to sanity - vote the GOP OUT OF the House Majority and reduce their numbers in the Senate in 2014 elections. Democrats move America forward - Republicans take us backward!

        by dagnome on Mon May 27, 2013 at 07:08:12 AM PDT

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        •  Ha-ha. They acquire the LATimes just as its (1+ / 0-)
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          paid daily subscriber base dips below 900,000. For them, it'll just be a tax write off, I suppose. But it's a shame to see the house that Otis Chandler built going down in utter disgrace. I knew when Times Mirror was acquired by Tribune Corp and the bean counters took over that bad things would happen. But I never predicted it would get this bad.

    •  basically it seems like it (3+ / 0-)
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      I think it's illuminating (to those of us who don't know Presidential history all that well) to be reminded what a Republcan can be.

      It reinvigorates the arguement that THESE REpublicans have gone of the deep end to the right. As does Bob Dole's comments today.

      If only Dems could message better. THis should be a topic of conversation...what they used to be and what they are.  Young people especially may not realize how far the REpublicans have gone. And what used to be possible in a Republican President. I think it could help some  people will feel more free to reject them even if they have brand loyalty from their parents and the past.

  •  no (7+ / 0-)

    under eisenhower, the cia first started overthrowing democratically elected governments, overseas.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Sun May 26, 2013 at 09:25:00 PM PDT

  •  "Humanity hanging from a cross of iron" (4+ / 0-)
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    He would be appalled with the terrible truth of his words ringing down the decades. I agree that he was a decent man, and knowing that I like to think most of his revulsion would arise from a sense of personal responsibility.

    T&R

    "Every book is like a door"

    by Hammerhand on Sun May 26, 2013 at 10:07:38 PM PDT

  •  Ike, Schmike (23+ / 0-)

    There's something you need to understand as you point to Eisenhower as one of the "good" Republicans.  It is this:  The incarnation of the Republican Party that confronts us currently (since one cannot call them "the modern Republican party") came about primarily  in a reaction against the presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower.  

    Early in Ike's presidency, a small group of reactionaries decided that the general was a communist dupe (!) because he did not move immediately upon taking office to uproot every last vestige of the New Deal.    So they decided they would do it.  To accomplish that, they would have to take over a political party, and you can guess which one they picked.  

    Their strategy was long-term.  Step one was to get a candidate of their choosing onto the national ticket.  This they accomplished in 1964 with Barry Goldwater.  His campaign is usually portrayed as something of a disaster, but it was anything but.  Because in and of itself, his nomination accomplished the first of the goals of these people.  

    Step two, as you may have guessed, came in 1980 with the election of Ronald Reagan, which marked the commencement of the wholesale dismantling of America.  

    But don't take my word for it.  If you have not already done so, check out Rick Perlstein's Before The Storm:  Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus. (From which the above is cribbed.)  It is indispensable for understanding just how we got into this mess.  

    In many ways, Eisenhower's presidency represents the apotheosis of the consensus that Perlstein's title invokes.  So, yeah, the country was better off (mostly) when there were Republicans like Eisenhower.  But a party that has spent close to 70 years incrementally repudiating such a Republican is not going to learn to re-embrace his example  any time in the foreseeable future.

    When you punch enough holes through steerage, the first-class cabins sink with the rest of the ship.

    by Roddy McCorley on Sun May 26, 2013 at 10:37:48 PM PDT

    •  And here's my favorite quote... (17+ / 0-)

      ...from the good general:  

      “We must remember that we are defending a way of life, not merely property, wealth, and even our homes… Should we have to resort to anything resembling a garrison state, then all that we are striving to defend…could disappear.”
      He sure called that one.

      Here's another:  "[Senator] Taft just wants me to cut taxes, but he can't tell me how to pay for it."

      The more things change...

      When you punch enough holes through steerage, the first-class cabins sink with the rest of the ship.

      by Roddy McCorley on Sun May 26, 2013 at 10:41:47 PM PDT

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    •  fascinating post. I'll look up that book (2+ / 0-)
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      thanks.

      I guess there may always be a slice of humanity that is reactionary (in the true sense of the word) by nature.

      Today's Republicans sound exactly like those who rebelled against Eisenhower's reasonableness.
      He probably didn't dismantle the New Deal because he wasn't from a rich family, one generation from poverty, and had seen firsthand how people suffer in his many years abroad in the military especially during WW2.

    •  Today's GOP would even reject Barry Goldwater (8+ / 0-)

      In retirement, he was a strong supporter of women's reproductive freedom and of LGBT equality, starting with the military. He famously said:

      I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?

      And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some G~d-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."

      and:
      I think every good Christian ought to kick [Jerry] Falwell right in the ass.

      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war.

      by lotlizard on Mon May 27, 2013 at 03:23:09 AM PDT

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    •  OTOH, as I've said to anyone who'll listen... (0+ / 0-)

      ...the New Left of the '60s didn't understand that George McGovern was their Goldwater.  Apparently they really thought he'd win, and they were crestfallen when he lost so badly.  They weren't playing the long game--they'd been listening to Jim "We want the world and we want it now" Morrison too much.

      OTOH, they don't bear all the blame--they're certainly not to blame for the way the Carter Administration went down in '79 and '80.  But they wound up being crestfallen all over again with The Unthinkable happening and just threw up their hands and they still haven't really recovered.   Or else they started playing the compromise game trying to get elected as soon as they could, and once they did they wound up doing, well, not that much.  And now time's getting a bit short...

      Point is, the New Left didn't have the faith the New Right did that the American people would eventually come around.  The American people have continually shown signs of doing so, but for some reason liberals and the Left have generally been really poor at capitalizing on it.

      The '60s were simply an attempt to get the 21st Century started early; don't mistake an unfulfilled dream for a lost one. A dream has no deadline!

      by Panurge on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 08:36:10 PM PDT

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  •  Eisenhower Republicans, I was born, bred and (12+ / 0-)

    raised one.

    I was PROUD to be a Republican. We cared for people, we cared for the poor, we cared for all Americans equally.

    I gave it up at Reagan.

    I have spent my voting life as a recovering Republican.  The party is done, over.  After 2016's loss, it will have to dissolve.

    "Privatize to Profitize" explains every single Republican economic, social and governing philosophy. Take every taxpayer dollar from defense, education, health care, public lands, retirement - privatize it, and profit from it.

    by mumtaznepal on Sun May 26, 2013 at 10:50:08 PM PDT

    •  try to think of it just as a name they stole (1+ / 0-)
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      those people like Cruz especially (ick).

      THe caring, solid, thrifty, upstanding citizen, sober type people are the prototypical New Englander and here in MA Ike was the last Republican President we voted for ('cept Reagan once in '84-my dad fell for that one then kicked himself).

    •  States! (0+ / 0-)

      They can always run a number of state houses--and maybe elect enough Senators to cause trouble.  After all, they lost big in '64 and still came back to make Nixon win even bigger in '72 than Goldwater lost.  Then there was Reagan in '84.  The Dems haven't had such a moment since '64, and I'm not sure they ever will in our lifetimes, because liberals don't even think about how to persuade people--only moderates and conservatives do.  They keep waiting on the GOP to implode and think that'll be enough.

      The '60s were simply an attempt to get the 21st Century started early; don't mistake an unfulfilled dream for a lost one. A dream has no deadline!

      by Panurge on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 08:24:24 PM PDT

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  •  Very nice diary (6+ / 0-)

    Informative and heartfelt

    'A civilization flourishes when people plant trees under whose shade they will never sit' Greek Proverb

    by janis b on Sun May 26, 2013 at 10:57:04 PM PDT

  •  I especially like (5+ / 0-)

    eisenhower's perspective on the 'expense' of war and the effect that misspent money has on human well being, knowledge and the sense of hope.

    'A civilization flourishes when people plant trees under whose shade they will never sit' Greek Proverb

    by janis b on Sun May 26, 2013 at 11:10:40 PM PDT

  •  I liked Ike. He ended the killing in Korea. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Eisenhower (he'd have been Eisenmenger in Austria (1+ / 0-)
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    like my family friends Eisenmenger von Sittner, a famous Austrian artist who produced some excellent architects and engineers including my personal friend Christoph, a relative of the artistic Eisenmengers) was an OK guy. I think his party's defeat not just in 1960 but again in '64 defined the loss of "progressives" for the GOP.

    It's funny that the racists bolted to the Party of Eisenhower the minute they figured that the progressives had bolted themselves--to the Democratic Party.

    "Hauer" translated as "hewer" is genuine, but a bit overly nice. At least in Southern Germany and Austria, they'd translate it "hacker", which he certainly did by choosing to run as a Republican instead of a Democrat. His very "nice" Presidency certainly gave leave for his Vice President, Richard Nixon, and his boys to take a butcher's axe (Hauer) to the GOP AND the Democratic Party.

    I'd rather that Eisenhower minded his own goddamned business and stayed a General, and a great one at that.

    I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

    by commonmass on Sun May 26, 2013 at 11:56:08 PM PDT

  •  This is really great, thank you (2+ / 0-)
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    a reasonable man and a true patriot, I'm glad to know a bit more about him.

  •  "Once upon a time" sounds like a fairy tale. (2+ / 0-)
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    If I wasn't old enough and schooled enough in history, I wouldn't believe people like Ike existed, either.

    •  And there used to be many more of them. (2+ / 0-)
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      Ev Dirksen, Howard Baker, Mark Hatfield, Edward Brooke, Nancy Landon Kassebaum (Baker) to name a few.

      Of course, before FDR, the Republican party was in general the more liberal party and the Democratic Party in general the more reactionary. So the 50's and 60's were a transition point during which the reactionaries went over to the Republican Party and the liberals went to the Democratic.

      But somehow in more recent times, the batshit crazies began getting elected as Republicans. Used to be neither Republicans nor Democrats elected quite so many batshit crazy people.

      You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

      by sewaneepat on Mon May 27, 2013 at 06:31:06 AM PDT

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      •  Before FDR Rs were more liberal? (0+ / 0-)

        I suppose you've never heard of William Jennings Bryan?  Or his Republican opponent, William McKinley?

        •  Did you notice the words "in general"? (1+ / 0-)
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          Even so, I am not sure that you could conclude who was more liberal, McKinley or Bryan.

          Yes, Bryan was a bimetallist and McKinley was a gold standard person. But on other issues, I would say that McKinley was more liberal. Look at their records on civil rights or taxes.

          As governor of Ohio, McKinley imposed excise taxes on corporations, took on businesses who were anti-union and brought about safety legislation for transportation workers.

          Bryan, on the other hand, was a religious zealot and prohibitionist. Yes, he was a populist, but so was George Wallace.

          Have you ever heard of Teddy Roosevelt and Alton Parker? Benjamin Harrison and Grover Cleveland?

          Or you could go back a little more - Lincoln or Breckinridge, Douglas or Bell?

          You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

          by sewaneepat on Mon May 27, 2013 at 11:22:11 AM PDT

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  •  Eisenhower's Supreme Court Appointments (6+ / 0-)

    You give Eisenhower "credit" for Chief Justice Warren.  He also appointed Justice Brennan.  But, as is famously reported, he considered them both big mistakes, appointed for political reasons, and vowed to look more at ideology next time. That was confirmed by an Eisenhower biographer.

  •  I often ask people "When was the last time (1+ / 0-)
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    a republicans did ANYTHING right"?

    Eisenhower is the most common answer.

    Ted Cruz should be locked in a basement and nobody should claim to know where he came from.

    I await the day Americans finally view republicans in the light they should be viewed.........................................

    Republicans are dangerous. This isn't about technical disagreements on ideas we generally agree upon: its a fucking war, with republicans calling the shots and republicans being the aggressors.

    This isn't some acceptable form of 'debate': the republicans are working systematically to destroy everything we know and believe, and if they aren't I demand you tell me what the fuck they are doing.

    They have it is for you and you need to understand that.

    •  Federal vs. state/local politics (0+ / 0-)

      There have been "decent" Republicans at the state and local levels.  I may not agree with them on many things, but I don't think they signed up for the lobotomy and heart blockage that pervades at the federal levels.  There's a purity test involved in rising up the ranks that seems to result in pure bullshit.

      •  Unaware of any decent republicans (2+ / 0-)
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        Please list them by their scientific names so I can refer them to the proper endangered species list.

      •  Yes, there are more "decent" Republicans at state (1+ / 0-)
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        and local, it's at the federal level it's pretty near impossible to find one with a heart or a brain.

        I lived in Las Vegas 1999-2005 before I moved to southern AZ. This guy was the last time I voted for a Republican -

        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        Kenny Guinn, Republican Gov. of Nevada 1999-2007, I voted for his reelection in 2004 over a really mediocre Dem. State Sen., who received only 22% of the vote. Guinn signed legislation passed by the Democratic controlled legislature giving equal protection to the LGBT community, saying "it was the right thing to do". In the 2001 economic downturn rather then slash the state budget he pushed through the largest tax increase in state history, despite howling objections from anti-tax Republicans, and the state's economy improved quickly.

        He was followed by a complete asshole, Jim Gibbons, who was defeated for reelection the GOP primary by the current Gov., Brian Sandoval. Sandoval isn't nearly the asswipe Gibbons was, he's enacting the expansion of Medicaid from the ACA. But he supported Arizona's SB1070, even though he's Hispanic. When asked if he thought his children might be asked for "papers please" if they went to AZ, he said "Oh, they don't look Hispanic.". Idiot.

        David Koch, a teacher and a Tea Partier sit down a table with a plate of a dozen cookies. Koch quickly stuffs 11 cookies in his pockets, leans to the bagger and says "watch out, the union thug will try to steal your cookie".

        by Dave in AZ on Mon May 27, 2013 at 07:29:02 AM PDT

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    •  well, Nixon started the EPA. i would go with that (1+ / 0-)
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      as the last right thing.

      "None of us got where we are solely by pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps" Thurgood Marshall

      by UTvoter on Mon May 27, 2013 at 07:42:27 AM PDT

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      •  I guess I could (0+ / 0-)

        give Reagan credit for expanding the earned income tax credit.  As a single mother in the 80s, I remember it making a difference.  I could catch up all the bills and still have enough left over for some bit of a treat - something like a new vcr or tv.

        The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. - 9th Amendment

        by TracieLynn on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:03:09 AM PDT

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      •  Nixon signed the bill because the political (1+ / 0-)
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        cost of a veto would have been a lot higher than the political cost of going along with a tidal wave of popular opinion.

        He deserves about as much credit for the EPA as Obama does for "evolving" on equal access to marriage.

        "The thing about smart motherfuckers is that they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers." Robert Kirkman

        by JesseCW on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:21:41 AM PDT

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      •  The Democratic Congress passed EPA. (0+ / 0-)

        Nixon did what he had to do.

  •  Eisenhower still has his followers (3+ / 0-)
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    We call them "Democrats".

  •  "Ike At The Mike" (2+ / 0-)
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    I was just thinking about Eisenhower the other day. Thirty years ago my friend Howard Waldrop published a short story called "Ike At The Mike" in which a young Dwight Eisenhower cashed in his train ticket to West Point and started playing clarinet. "Ike" became one of the premier jazz clarinets of the mid-1900s. The story is set at Ike's farewell concert, attended by (among others) a young senator from Tennessee named Elvis Presley.

    It's a great example of alternate history. Omir sez check it out.

    Great diary and great summation of Eisenhower's life and politics. If we had more like him and fewer Rand Pauls Congress would be a better place. Heck, if we had more like him there might be fewer Rand Pauls.

    Steal a trillion, too big to fail. Steal a thousand, go to jail.

    by Omir the Storyteller on Mon May 27, 2013 at 07:28:04 AM PDT

  •  Great diary on a good day. And lest we forget, (1+ / 0-)
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    the state of Kansas was once capable of nurturing such public servants.   For anyone wanting to take their kids on a presidential museum "two-fer", the Harry S. Truman home in Independence, MO and the Eiesnhower Library nd Museum in Abilene, KS are only about 200 easy miles apart.

  •  my family is a bunch of Eisenhower republicans. (0+ / 0-)

    they cannot, for the life of them, realize that the party has changed and that for them, working class union members (i know, i know -it is too painful for words), the party is not at all interested in them.  I kind of blame eisenhower for this. :)

    "None of us got where we are solely by pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps" Thurgood Marshall

    by UTvoter on Mon May 27, 2013 at 07:41:30 AM PDT

  •  I think that this quote, from Maddow, is (1+ / 0-)
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    particularly apt:

    "I'm undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I'm in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican party platform."

    "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

    by Australian2 on Mon May 27, 2013 at 08:05:32 AM PDT

  •  Executive Order 10450 (2+ / 0-)
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    skrekk, Kentucky DeanDemocrat
    Fifty-five years ago today, on April 27, 1953, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed Executive Order 10450, which mandated the firing of all federal employees who were determined to be guilty of “sexual perversion.” Over the next two decades, thousands of gays and lesbians would loose their jobs solely because of their sexual orientation.
    http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/...

    If altar boys could get pregnant, contraception would be a sacrament.

    by tiponeill on Mon May 27, 2013 at 08:23:45 AM PDT

  •  My in-laws were good and decent republicans- (0+ / 0-)

    always ready & willing to help out the less fortunate and unfailingly civil and courteous. In fact, politics wasn't something they openly discussed any more than they'd ask someone how much money they made or what religion they were.

    Then, after my FIL died, my MIL started listening to talk radio in the evenings...

  •  Before we idealize Eisenhower... (4+ / 0-)

    Before we idealize Eisenhower, let's not forget things like Operation Ajax, in which the CIA sponsored a plot to overthrow the secular, liberal, democratically-elected leader of Iran: https://en.wikipedia.org/...

    Mosaddegh's crime?  Nationalizing the oil industry.  Oh, how the US hates it when other countries do that.

    Let's also remember his failure to criticize or even stand up to Sen. Joseph McCarthy's crazed red-baiting witch hunt.

    You can also read Richard Hofstadter's Anti-Intellectualism in American Life if you want a contemporary perspective: http://www.amazon.com/.... Although Eisenhower is a minor focus (if that much) in the book, the anecdotes and quotes about him provided really turned me off.

    Granted, he was much better than today's Republican Party, but let's not whitewash.

  •  Ike set in place the foreign policy and military (2+ / 0-)
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    JesseCW, Lost and Found

    disasters we've been dealing with for the past 60 years.   Had he not chosen the Dulles brothers as CIA director and Secretary of State, the world would be a far better place today.    But ultimately it was Ike's decision to react to post-colonial attempts at democracy in the imperialistic way he did.

  •  Eisenhower death camps (0+ / 0-)

    for German POWs are a stain on this nation.  It's estimated that a million POWs died from starvation and exposure after the war was over.  Geneva Convention be damned.

    If Eisenhower is the best the Republicans can offer - and it probably is - God help them.

  •  Very well written (0+ / 0-)

    I would like to think I'm still a good  and decent Republican.  And, as such, I have been voting Dem for awhile now.  It's the only sensible course of action for a "reality based" "conservative".

    We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

    by theotherside on Mon May 27, 2013 at 10:53:40 AM PDT

  •  Today's GOP are the Fascists of yesteryear (0+ / 0-)

    The Republican Party was hijacked by the religiofascists of the Reagan era. Eisenhower must have had a pretty good idea of who killed Kennedy. Today's Democrats and Republicans are a poor example of a healthy and vibrant democracy. Big money has brokered the process and nothing will change until we have meaningful reform.

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