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Hello Kossacks, my name is Nick, I write from a little ol' town called Lewiston, ME. Since 2008, I've been getting involved in American politics, canvassing for the democratic party while still in middle school. I come from a liberal family and am a liberal myself, but it comes less from my parents influence and more from personal experience.

But enough about myself, I have a question that's been bothering me for a while now.

What the heck is wrong with this country? Seriously, where did we go wrong?

Allow me to explain: how can you have folks in office who say that...

Rape is god's will and you should have his baby. Or women have a built in failsafe in case of being raped. (3 of them have said this that I can remember)

 Global Warming is a myth 'cause we have winter. (And the Earth is flat)

(That's just off the top of my head, to really drive the point, here's some quotes I borrowed from an article on theweek.com)

 "When a physician removes a child from a woman, that is the largest organ in a body. That's a big thing. That's a big surgery. You don't have any other organs in your body that are bigger than that."

—Alabama state Rep. Mary Sue McClurkin (R), defending her sweeping anti-abortion bill.

 "Some people could make the argument that a lot of people like being in abusive relationships. It's a love-hate relationship. It's very, very common for people to stick around with somebody they love who also abuses him or her."

—New Hampshire state Rep. Mark Warden (R), during a debate on a bill to reduce the penalty for simple assault.

 "Slavery and abortion are the two most horrendous things this country has done but when you think about the immorality of wild, lavish spending on our generation and forcing future generations to do without essentials just so we can live lavishly now, it's pretty immoral."

—Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-Texas), equating slavery with the national debt.

 "Like most men, I'm more opposed to violence against women than even violence against men. Because most men can handle it a little better than a lot of women can."

—Rep. Jimmy Duncan (R-Tenn.), speaking on anti-violence legislation.

 "To redefine marriage is discriminatory towards those who hold the sincerely held religious belief that it is a sacred institution between a man & a woman."

—Illinois state Sen. Kyle McCarter (R), in response to the state Senate approving same-sex marriage in Illinois.

 "I'm going to try to be brief because I notice you're on your fourth glass of water, and I don't want to be accused of waterboarding you."

—Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), speaking in the middle of a long, contentious confirmation hearing for John Brennan as CIA director.

 "I was very proud of the fact that I didn't get anything wrong that I said during the course of the debates. I didn't get anything wrong, and that's a huge arena."

—Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), commenting on her performance in the 2012 GOP presidential debates.

(LINK: http://theweek.com/...)

Hey, if crazy people like these can get elected, I think I'd have a fair shot at running for office.

Also, this may seem like I'm targeting republicans on purpose, but I'm trying not to. They're just the only ones saying insane things on national television.

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  •  Welcome aboard. (3+ / 0-)
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    NBurps, JBL55, PSzymeczek

    Nice to see you.

    Friendly advice: People at DKos are big on copyright protections and I think the quantity of the article you cited -- while a valuable article to read - is more than is allowed. Though it's good to link to the source, at least.

    Personally, I'd also like to see more of your own words. It sounds like you have something to say that's worth reading. :)

    We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another. -- Jonathan Swift

    by raptavio on Tue May 28, 2013 at 06:39:50 AM PDT

  •  Drop the profanity (5+ / 0-)
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    NBurps, nextstep, Orinoco, Kevskos, JBL55

    It's never a good idea to develop a writing style that uses profanity. I don't know if your are trying to sound more like an adult, but the use of profanity always makes anything you write less credible. Show your vocabulary skills, pick other words and leave the profanity off your dairies.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Tue May 28, 2013 at 06:53:45 AM PDT

  •  Went Wrong Before Your Parents Were Born. (8+ / 0-)

    This rightwing began its revolution when the Beatles were still touring and Vietnam wasn't yet a war.

    Shortly after Vietnam became a war and the Beatles were breaking up, the Dems decided they'd been far too radical and began allowing and helping Republicans step us steadily to the right, relaxing restraints on finance, business, the rich, the media, which both parties have been doing since before disco. And all that came at the cost to the poor and middle classes.

    You have to go back into your grandparents' time to find our last large, rising middle class with good opportunity for education, advancement, travel, secure and even comfortable old age. The way the country was run back then, necessary to give the people those opportunities, would look very alien to you today.

    Yes the good old days, but of course not for everyone. Lots less opportunity for minorities and women for example, and youth who could be drafted and die in war couldn't vote either. And there was that problem with possibly melting the planet in a 20 minute war.

    But in this story of how generally good the old days were, at least nobody's blaming youth for things being rotten today.

    Welcome aboard diarist.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue May 28, 2013 at 07:00:04 AM PDT

  •  Welcome, Nick. (4+ / 0-)
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    NBurps, Orinoco, Kevskos, JBL55

    A great number of citizens are inadequately educated and easily sold on simplistic, buzzword-driven policies which produce nothing but more upward income redistribution. None of which is accidental.

    That you have chosen to fight against this dumbing-down and stealing-up is a great credit to your intelligence and ethics. I look forward to hearing more of your thoughts.

    Republicans represent both sides: the insanely rich and vice versa.

    by Crashing Vor on Tue May 28, 2013 at 07:08:46 AM PDT

  •  Welcome aboard the reality based Dkos Nick! (2+ / 0-)
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    JBL55, N in Seattle

    Being politically aware these days, as you are finding out, can be maddening. You are coming of age at a time when the dominant political party in America, the republicans, have ceased to even pretend to be interested in promoting the general welfare of this country. They serve money, the richest, the corporations and Wall Street. They always have served them but at least they used to support good government and governance to some degree. No longer.

    Going forward you should understand that this country is now divided into two camps: those who follow reason and facts (the reality based community) and those who follow their beliefs (to the point that they are dismissive of facts and reason). Communication within the first group serves to promote knowledge, ideas and understanding. Communication within the second group serves to reinforce already held beliefs, prejudices, and hatred. Keeping this in mind will no make hearing the kinds of things you listed any easier, but it may make it easier for you to understand why they say them.

  •  your question has kept us busy for a long time (0+ / 0-)

    in fact, "WTF is it with Republicans?" is probably the single most discussed topic on this blog; has been since I arrived here 8 years ago.
    There are a lot of answers ranging from psychological flaws to racism to ignorance to an authoritarian bent...
    you get the idea. It's a Big Question. If it could be definitively answered, I think by now it would have been - there are an awful lot of very intelligent, educated folks roaming around these pages.
    At any rate, welcome, and glad to hear that you are already engaged in mobilization and outreach.

    Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

    by kamarvt on Tue May 28, 2013 at 10:58:40 AM PDT

  •  These are generally another way of saying: (0+ / 0-)

    'Why don't other folk think correctly, as I do?'

    "...where did we go wrong?"
    They're just the only ones saying insane things on national television.
    There are lots of plausible reasons.
  •  Many of the quotes you cite are dog whistles. (0+ / 0-)

    IOW they are directed at specific sub-groups of the voting population, which simply demonstrates how politically stratified our society has become.

    From my POV, this began with Nixon's "southern strategy," became entrenched by the traditional media's preference for high ratings through fear, and has become practically fossilized by the growing desire by the public for simple and easy-to-understand solutions to increasingly complex issues.  The shockingly high number of Americans who want a flat income tax is just one example of that last factor.

    The traditional media make things worse by (a) reporting not so much what people say and do but the reaction of others to what people say and do, and (b) adopting a simplistic approach of "balancing" one POV with the opposite POV, even if the opposite POV is pure fiction, giving the impression the "two sides" are "equally divided."  Part of this is due to their fear of being called "liberal" (see: Reagan at the 1988 GOP convention).

    Karl Rove has earned a lot of money from a number of campaigns by remembering that it's not how many people like his candidate, but how many of those people actually vote, and he targets his dog-whistle messages accordingly.  Rove learned his techniques (e.g. push polls) from Lee Atwater who got them from Donald Segretti, one of Nixon's original dirty tricksters.  

    I'm sorry if my remarks seem all over the place, but I think if you look up some of the people and events I've cited you'll see why I mention them.

    BTW I'm in Maine, too, about twenty minutes east of Lewiston, just off Rt. 202.  :-)

    "War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate." ~ Al Cleveland & Marvin Gaye (1970)

    by JBL55 on Tue May 28, 2013 at 12:37:13 PM PDT

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