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According to a new Pew survey, a majority of the American people apparently support the violation of their privacy rights by the National Security Administration.

As we discussed earlier, this is a function of exhaustion--what I like to call the "so what, I can't do anything about it effect"--as well as socialization by the media and elites that such violations are acceptable because the bogeyman of terrorism must be stopped at any cost.

The National Security State's partnership with Hollywood has also helped to "educate" the American people about how "cool" it is that "their" government has such fantastic capabilities.

From the relationship, movies such as Zero Dark Thirty and Enemy of the State are produced, movies which are nothing if not advertisements for American Empire turned both outward against "terrorists" and inward against the citizens of this country.

Ultimately, the National Security Administration and the Surveillance Society are facts of life that have been with us for decades. The public's acceptance of this reality is not wise; however, it is understandable.

Operation PRISM is part of a long history of spying on the American people by their own government. The public may not have read books such as Body of Secrets or know about the Palmer Raids. The public may consider the endless list of alphabet soup names for spy programs such as Cointelpro, Echelon, Typewriter, Shamrock, Minaret, or Rex 84 confusing and tedious. This same public may also find such code names exciting and titillating as they evoke images of James Bond and Jason Bourne.

As street griots are fond of saying, "there ain't nothing new in the game." During the 1970s, the Congress convened a hearing on the law breaking excesses of the CIA and other intelligence agencies. The Church Committee's findings are an eerie foreshadowing of what has come to light about the NSA and Operation PRISM.

And just as most Americans have little to no specific memory of the Church Committee, this most recent non-scandal about the NSA will be soon forgotten.

Edward Snowden likely has a movie, some books, and probably a video game on the way immortalizing his brave deeds. The National Security Administration's violation of the American people's rights are now part of mass popular culture. Therefore, as popular culture the memory of such misdeeds are forgettable and ephemeral. There is no public outrage because the "crime" is poised to be lost to the memory well and the collective political ether.

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  •  the pew poll (3+ / 0-)
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    is very poorly worded, and doesn't really tell us anything. the rest i agree with.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 10:24:14 AM PDT

    •  it does reveal a consistent level (3+ / 0-)
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      public support and also offers insight on partisanship as a variable in supporting a given president's policies.

      public opinion polling is subject to all manner of problems--question wording, priming, open vs. closed answers, etc.

      but, it would seem based on the relative silence and lack of outrage that the sheeple are in step on this one.

    •  Yes the questions focus on "Legal" (3+ / 0-)
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      The Problem is that Japanese internment camps were "Legal".

      I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

      by JML9999 on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 10:41:02 AM PDT

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      •  the second question (2+ / 0-)
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        in the first box is the real tell- more people now oppose government rounding up everyone's email. the reporting on this poll has been shoddy.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44:32 AM PDT

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      •  as are the nsa's abuses (1+ / 0-)
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        an illegal and unjust badly written law is still "the law."

      •  And so are the so called "FEMA camps" that (1+ / 0-)
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        the right wingers have been yelling about thanks to the MCA/NDAA.  Sure, the camps haven't even been built yet (and can't be until Obama's signing statement expires on Jan 20, 2017) and it would be a logistical nightmare to do so but that doesn't change the fact that such a thing is now perfectly legal.

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 11:34:16 AM PDT

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        •  We've done it before (1+ / 0-)
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          So I don't know that a simple dismissal of the possibility is really a good idea. Of course, the idea that the right wing would ever be rounded up and thrown into a camp is patently absurd. It's be black men, you know, the one's who haven't already had that done to them via the prison system.

          If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

          by AoT on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 01:10:46 PM PDT

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          •  Though the big mistake that the CTers make (0+ / 0-)

            is that doing so would be an incredibly huge logistical effort and thus could not be prepared for in secret.  Think about it, even if you were willing to let the prisoners die of starvation and dehydration (thus making them death camps rather than internment camps) you would still have to feed and house all the guards which would mean building lots of barracks and kitchens and everything else such a camp would need.  If you want to detain and keep alive 10-20 million people in such camps indefinitely the logistical issues are even worse even if most camps can produce the majority of their own foods via farming.  My guess is that you would have at least a year of warning and building up to such a thing if not more.

            You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

            by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:52:51 PM PDT

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            •  no one can detain and keep alive (1+ / 0-)
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              Ten million people in camps. We have a prison population of about 2 million. If we tried to hold ten million the death rate would be tremendous. And it isn't being done in secret, and the right fully supports it.

              If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

              by AoT on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 04:47:46 PM PDT

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      •  And still ARE ... (1+ / 0-)
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        Although the Congress eventually paid token reparations to individual surviving internees, Korematsu v. United States has never been overturned or repudiated.

        Basically: the President of the United States, with no special enabling legislation ... and with no credible evidence of wrongdoing ...  has the authority to strip any one or any number of citizens  (Korematsu was born in the US) of rights and property by the issuance of an executive order.

        Presumably, concerns about impeachment,  and/or the electoral  consequences to an overreaching President's policial party explain why the Internment has never been repeated (so promiscuously and on such a large scale) ...

        But since "impeachable offense" is what ever a majority in the House and 2/3 of the Senate SAYS it is ...

        Well ... our best hope for the future is a free and unintimidated Press -- a point lost on Rep Peter King.

  •  They tell me that this is WAY too much power. (nt) (3+ / 0-)
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    Stop the NRA and the NSA
    Repeal the Patriot Act and the 2nd Amendment

    by dream weaver on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 10:35:26 AM PDT

  •  The stage is set for massive injustice... (5+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, phonegery, DRo, Oaktown Girl, badger the hands of a new Joe McCarthy.

     photo TedCruzandJoeMcCarthy_zpsb9432e29.jpg

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 10:38:17 AM PDT

  •  and for those that think we can trust them today.. (4+ / 0-)
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    study history.

    Plato's " The Cave" taught me to question reality.

    by CTDemoFarmer on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46:27 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for the history lesson. (1+ / 0-)
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    Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

    by DRo on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 11:02:52 AM PDT

  •  As long as we're talking movies (1+ / 0-)
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    and books to highlight potential abuses, might I ad "Murder at 1600" (Wesley Snipes and Diane Lane). In this projection the NSA director (Donald Sutherland) framed the president's son to force the president's resignation. Is this just a fun, suspenseful movie of no real consequence...or could the shadowy NSA have that kind of power?

    To me, it was an entertaining movie posing a "what if" question.

    •  Or how about "Eagle Eye" for a way that such (0+ / 0-)

      a system can easily spiral out of control should DARPA succeed in making the Total Information Awareness system fully self aware (and as doing the impossible is what DARPA is all about, if anyone can do it they can).

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 11:36:17 AM PDT

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  •  What's scary is the posters here on dKos (0+ / 0-)

    who say that Obama doesn't have the power to control what the NSA does... but that they're perfectly unconcerned about the NSA being effectively unaccountable to anyone.

    What are you doing to fight the dangerous and counterproductive error of treating dirtbag terrorist criminals as though they were comic book supervillains? I can't believe we still have to argue this shit, let alone on Daily Kos.

    by happymisanthropy on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 01:17:26 PM PDT

  •  Something new is the realization that (0+ / 0-)

    NSA is the military and U.S. civilians are under occupation. Americans typically rally around the police state until it overreaches, as with the fugitive slave act in the 1850's, capitalist wars against labor in the 1930's, racism and genocide in Alabama and South Vietnam in 1960's. The prosecution of whistleblowers and opponents of war today may overreach. Moral challenges to the police state are met by its protective culture of barbarism, typically involving a waiver of personal safety. The international system of peacekeeping was dismantled by the U.S. in Iraq. As in WWI, opponents of war are viewed as criminals. World peace is a taboo subject. Interpersonal civility is rejected by Hollywood and by the divinely-inspired second amendment.

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