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This is your war on drugs.

8 policemen killed and the Chief of Police kidnapped. The victims were executed face down on the floor.

Guatemala reeling after mass cop shooting inside station

“This event is lamentable and I think it is a direct affront to the state as an institution,” said Adolfo Alarcon, a security analyst at the Center for National and Economic Inquiry.

He said the killing was a message from traffickers “to the state and society that they do not fear them, that they will use all means necessary to cause chaos and reduce the population to a state of terror and defenselessness.”

Yeah...8 police officers killed in their own station is 'lamentable'.

Drug trafficking is about money. It's not 'really' about drugs. It's about making LOTS of money because it can be done IF you have the wherewithal to make it happen.

In this case, as in Mexico and as is or at least was the case with Colombia, The iron Law of Prohibition plays out: The War on Drugs essentially burtures criminal elements and causes an "arms race" between trafficking organizations and between the organizations and the Police.

it has long been the case the the Cartels in Mexico, via outright narco-terrorism, challenged not just the police and criminal justice system, but to some extent even the Mexican Military, as the choice is always more enforcement, more aggression.

This increases risks for the traffickers and increased risks = increased profits because they can charge more. It also exacerbates cartels finding new ways to move product.

The point of this is to not quibble about "druuuuugs" but to make the point that enforcement of these laws exacerbates the problem and causes direct confrontations between criminal elements and the police. If the police don't buckle to pressure and become corrupt, they end up dead.

Guatemala is experiencing a wave of violence that claims 16 victims a day, one of the highest rates in Latin America.

Authorities estimate that around 50 percent of violent deaths in Guatemala are linked to the drug trade and gang violence.

This way ain't working. It is very predictably making things worse and spreading across borders. "Spreading" is not "being stamped out".

But, it never gets better because prohibition is the incorrect approach, if the goal is to "stamp out" drug use and trafficking.

If the goal is to enhance budgets and police powers without being able to document any improvements even after years and many billions of dollars, then mission accomplished.

This is your war on drugs.

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  •  Wait, I thought this was the war on terror? (8+ / 0-)

    Because terrorists are financed by the sale of drugs, right?

    Wait, I'm still confused, if they were selling drugs, wouldn't they be motivated by money?

    Which means that ultimately, it's the war on... uhm...  

    ...ok, I got nothing...


    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 10:13:01 AM PDT

  •  The war on drugs driven by US domestic (5+ / 0-)

    demand for those drugs causing political, economic and social problems in other countries.

    We have really fucked up Central America for generations past and future.

    Then some of us scream like stuck pigs when they end up moving to the US.

    Time to change the strategy perhaps?

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    by LaFeminista on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 10:15:31 AM PDT

    •  Prohibition nurtures the worst human beings (7+ / 0-)

      imaginable: its the money.

      This isn't rocket science - a regulated trade in the US would KILL the Cartels in Mexico. Half their income comes from smuggling crappy Mexican weed into the US.

      let us buy it at Publix and the Star Mart and the Cartels will have a sad.

      The rest of their income comes from real drugs - I don't like real drugs anymore than anybody else does and I have have no bright ideas about managing them OTHER than to observe that when they are left unregulated in the hands of vicious criminals to make shitloads of cash, it's arguably an improvement to consider ways to channel that 'business' into some form of legal enterprise. Again, prohibition them was known to be a failure 40 years ago and we have given it the college try. it doesn't work, it cant work, it wont work.

      But it's a great government scam so we're stuck with it.

      •  The thing I don't understand- (0+ / 0-)

        With Cali product wholesaling @ ~$1800 way the hell up in Vermont,

        Half their income comes from smuggling crappy Mexican weed into the US.
        Who's buying that crap?
        •  Look up "Acapulco Gold" from the sixties. You (0+ / 0-)

          think that there is no market for weed with a good head and a "low price"? I remember paying $50.00/lb in the U.S for tons of stuff that me and my customers thoroughly enjoyed.

          I won't argue that nothing has changed, but I bet you that things ain't that different today.

          There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

          by oldpotsmuggler on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 07:20:09 PM PDT

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      •  I'd say profits from crappy hemp is more like (0+ / 0-)

        75% of the cartel's cash flow.

        As to hard drugs -- I'd continue to try controlling the growing of coca and poppies. Unlike a weed which grows wild all over the world, coca and poppies can be geographically isolated and stamped out where not allowed to be grown. I'd continue to prohibit the sale of cocaine and heroin, except that I would make it available for free to licensed addicts at state rehab locations offering free support to shake the habit if desired. I'd rather not have addicts busting into grandma's house, or robbing the corner store, to get their next fix even if it means giving them the drugs to piss their lives away if they so choose.

        But yeah, I fully agree, simply following Colorado and Washington State, would kick the cartels in the teeth, and give countries like Mexico and Guatemala a fighting chance.

        It's not the American hemp smokers that are causing the cartel terror. Rather, it is American policy which allows the funneling of hemp purchase cash directly to the cartels for funding arms, warriors, and corruption -- to the extent that they threaten national governments.

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        by chuco35 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 01:05:44 PM PDT

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  •  Eventually cannibis will be legal (0+ / 0-)

    and some of this will be a bad memory.

    But there is no reason to think it will all stop as long as the other drugs (and I assume this incident is about coke) are treated as criminal situations instead of as addictions.

  •  Just the other day Matthew David Stewart, a (0+ / 0-)

    local Utah guy who killed a cop last year when his 18 plant basement grow was swat raided in the dead of night killed himself in jail. The neighbors said that they never heard any police announcment, and dude actually thought that his "Motion to Suppress" would buy him the version of events that he, apparently, considered to be justice.

    Welcome to reality, even in this country.

    There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

    by oldpotsmuggler on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 07:27:10 PM PDT

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