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U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) addresses the final session of the 2012 Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida August 30, 2012. REUTERS/Jason Reed (UNITED STATES  - Tags: POLITICS ELECTIONS)
Marco Rubio's strategy for wooing Republicans: Say "Obamacare" and "defund" in the same sentence
Marco Rubio might be scared to say the world "a"-word (abortion) in his quest to win back conservatives who are ticked off at his support for comprehensive immigration reform, but he's got no qualms about using the "O"-word—Obamacare.
Sen. Marco Rubio pledged Thursday morning that he won’t vote for a short-term spending bill to keep the government open unless it defunds the Affordable Care Act.

“I will not vote for a continuing resolution unless it defunds Obamacare,” the Florida Republican said at a breakfast hosted by the Weekly Standard and Concerned Veterans for America. He called on his fellow senators to do the same. “I believe we should not vote or pass a continuing resolution unless that continuing resolution defunds Obamacare.”

I don't know whether the fact that Marco Rubio thinks this is a good political move says more about him or the conservatives to whom he panders, but it's really pathetic.

Obviously, part of what makes it pathetic is that even though we're now more than three years removed from the passage of Obamacare, Republicans are still talking about trying to sabotage it, even though they haven't been able to repeal it. And it's also pathetic that Rubio would threaten to shut down the entire government unless he gets his way.

But Rubio's threat is also pathetic because it's utterly meaningless. There's no chance House Republicans are going to make a spending bill contingent on defunding Obamacare, and Rubio knows it. And even if there were a chance, it's not like there's any possibility that the Senate will ever seriously consider a continuing resolution that defunds Obamacare. Oh, and let's not forget that even if somehow Congress did pass such a resolution, it's not like President Obama would sign it.

To even make a threat this stupid, Rubio must think his base consists of a bunch of dumb rubes who will adore him simply for mentioning the words "Obamacare" and "defund" in the same sentence. And given that Politico wrote an entire article based on this meaningless threat, he's probably right.

Originally posted to The Jed Report on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM PDT.

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  •  I thought the "O" word might be "Ovaries". (8+ / 0-)

    As if.

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 12:56:35 PM PDT

  •  No offence, but I call it RomneyCare. (16+ / 0-)

    I'm from Massachusetts (though I don't live there any more). But I call it that to call attention to the fact that it is essentially a Republican bill that now all of a sudden, people hate. I think they don't know enough about it. If they did, they'd all be screaming to extend Medicare to everyone. Unless they are an insurance agent.

    I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

    by commonmass on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 12:59:05 PM PDT

    •  I'm not from Mass (4+ / 0-)

      But I call it that too. People need to remember this is a conservative bill.

      “The Republicans believe in the minimum wage — the more the minimum, the better.”-Harry S Truman

      by Generic Democrat on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:42:34 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  This same ol' "It's a Republican Bill" nonsense to (1+ / 0-)
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        belittle a healthcare bill which so far as helped millions of people to gain access to healthcare is so ridiculous, especially just by the fact that the healthcare bill forces insurance companies to allow individuals healthcare even with a preexisting conditions, as well as force insurance companies to spend 80% of their premium on healthcare, is not exactly the kind of policy most Republicans would sign.

        In fact, the Romney bill was passed due to the efforts of a mostly Democratic legislature. It wasn't Romney and a bunch of Republicans who signed it, it was Romney and a bunch of Democrats.

        The Right calls it Obamacare to diminish the bill, and the Left calls it a Republican bill to minimize the bill.

        •  It is a bill that glorifies the insurance business (2+ / 0-)
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          which my family has been in for decades, and I can tell you, they LOVE it.

          It is a bill that requires people to purchase private services. Only THEN does it cover them.

          Read up on your progressiveness.

          I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

          by commonmass on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 03:30:16 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  It's a bill that glorifies the insurance business? (0+ / 0-)

            How does the bill glorify the insurance business?

            The only benefit to the insurance companies and this will be done through many exchanges that will bargain the cost of insurance down is the benefit of having customers. Incidentally, bargaining down the cost of insurance is a good thing.

            But the insurance industry does not dictate how the ACA is constructed they negotiated for their interest and the President for everyday people. We received important concessions from the insurance industry, and forced them to accept things they had never accepted before. Like what?  

            Here are the important concessions we received from the insurance industry, which I've posted here before.

            What did we get? Here are just a few things:

            The ACA eliminated preexisting condition exclusions for all health insurance policies (a very big deal)

            Also banned lifetime and annual benefit caps (another big deal)

            The ACA requires private insurance companies to cover a wide range of preventive services, including well-woman visits (Pap tests, cancer screenings, etc), diabetes screening, and prenatal care without co-pays. (another big deal)

            Requires health insurance companies to spend at least 80-85 cents of every premium dollar on medical costs as opposed to profits, marketing and overhead, as mentioned before (Yup, nice)

            Requiring an insurance company to justify a rate increase before it shows up on your bill (Yup, I like this)

            And established major new provisions to combat health care fraud and abuse in Medicare, Medicaid, and private insurance (lovely)

            Again, the insurance companies would not have independently offered these provisions…They got customers, we got concessions.

            And in case anyone might consider these concessions to being small, the issue of preexisting conditions alone is

            HUGE:

            According to a new analysis by the Department of Health and Human Services, 50 to 129 million (19 to 50 percent of) non-elderly Americans have some type of pre-existing health condition.  Up to one in five non-elderly Americans with a pre-existing condition — 25 million individuals — is uninsured.  Under the Affordable Care Act, starting in 2014, these Americans cannot be denied coverage, be charged significantly higher premiums, be subjected to an extended waiting period, or have their benefits curtailed by insurance companies.

            http://aspe.hhs.gov/....

            So, how does this so called "Republican Bill" glorify the insurance industry again?
            •  I'm not interested in "important concessions" (1+ / 0-)
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              from Insurance. You know what I'm interested in? Putting the Insurance business and the banks back where they belong. Which is NOT on our back.

              I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

              by commonmass on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 04:24:55 PM PDT

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              •  And how are you going to do this? Of course you're (1+ / 0-)
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                not interested in important concessions because it damages the argument that the bill "Glorifies the Insurance Business". It's illogical to think that the bill glorifies them, yet they had to give up concessions they had always refused giving up.

                We have existed for almost a hundred years as a nation before this bill was passed, and, in all this time, no one has been able to pass the so called "progressive" bill... I am wondering just what are these "progressives" waiting for....

                •  I'm waiting for the United States to actually (0+ / 0-)

                  like the United States. So far, we've done a pretty bad job of that. Now, if you want to argue about that, well, good luck. You won't have many supporters. Though I'm sure Obama, a former Kossack, would we happy to help except he's otherwise occupied making sure every phone call you make is recorded.

                  I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

                  by commonmass on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 04:56:55 PM PDT

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                  •  Ok, we've gone from healthcare to Obama recording (0+ / 0-)

                    our phone calls. Obama destroying real "progressive" healthcare to Obama invading our privacy....

                    Obama, Obama, Obama, just as on the Right, Obama and all the so called bad things he is doing. This becomes so boring after a while. Did you noticed the President enjoys high approval rating with most Democrats and Progressives, as opposed to the "real"progressives? Don't worry, in about three plus years Obama will no longer be in office, then all your political wish lists will magically appear.

                    Obama all the time.... The source of all our ills.

                    •  I think, Ned, we should be more careful (0+ / 0-)

                      about whom we elect.

                      I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

                      by commonmass on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 05:21:49 PM PDT

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                      •  I and many many Democrats were very careful and (1+ / 0-)
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                        that is why Barack Obama is in office today. See, if it were up to you and your fellow "Obama is the source of all our ills" folk  Mitt Romney would be in office today....

                        •  Nope. I voted for him. His sorry ass. (0+ / 0-)

                          He reminds me of Clinton. Every day he does.

                          I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

                          by commonmass on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 05:44:30 PM PDT

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                          •  You know, I could never vote for someone whom I (0+ / 0-)

                            referred to as a "sorry ass." Could it be that the Obama supporters are more serious about their politics and their votes than the Obama haters?

                            Most of us voted for the President because he passed a healthcare bill that will give tens of millions of people access to health care, we voted for him because he increased fuel efficiency standards in automobiles, we voted for him because he extended Pell Grant for millions of students and gave them an opportunity to attend college, we voted for him because he made it possible for women to receive contraceptive care, we voted for him because he passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, we voted for him because he helped to end DADT, we voted for him because he has spent more than any president in decades on issues that will improve the environment, we voted for him because he helped to stop the disparity in prison sentencing, which affected African Americans and Hispanics, we voted for him because he saved the automobile industry, and prevented the economy from falling into a a second Great Depression, we voted for him because he has spent more on programs for the poor than any President in decades, we voted for him because he placed two women on the Supreme Court....

                            You voted for him because he is a "sorry ass". That actually says a lot about you and many of your fellow Obama haters.

                        •  go vote for a man that sounds likeWagner. (0+ / 0-)

                          I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

                          by commonmass on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 06:01:24 PM PDT

                          [ Parent ]

                          •  I don't vote for names that sound like. It don't (0+ / 0-)

                            matter if it rhymes. I vote for people who will make a positive difference in the lives of individuals, like passing a healthcare bill that is already helping MILLIONS! I vote for Barack Obama.

  •  Okay....Marco's against O-Care....Check! (2+ / 0-)
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  •  It's not entirely stupid (8+ / 0-)

    The Republicans are right ... once 20M+ Americans start getting subsidies for their health insurance socialized medicine of some sort is inevitable and the GOP will lose big.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:05:35 PM PDT

    •  It's not entirely stupid. (2+ / 0-)
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      The base doesn't trust him.  Hating on Obamacare is a good way to prove that he's one of them...

      Except that he's not. He has that ethnic name and speaks that foreign language, and he seems to like people who do as well.

      But other than that, Go Marco! You gotta dive deep into the extremist pool if you want to get the nomination.

      But ¡Cuídate! You may bump your head on the bottom when you realize the waters are very shallow and end up with serious daños  from which you can't recover for the general.

      Ah, the risks of pandering...

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:37:06 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I'm really hoping that's the end result... (3+ / 0-)
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      Lujane, blue aardvark, ColoTim

      Now that I understand that only employers who have fifty or more full time workers need to provide health insurance, it seems we need to have safeguards in place to prevent companies from downsizing or declaring that all the employees must work part time to get around the requirement. Don't Walmart,target, etc already do that?

      But again...if the public is subsidizing everyone (except business owners) because everyone's only working part time, then the logical step is make that law, right?

      Also : we need to have our immigrants qualify for it too.

      Union busting???? That's disgusting!!!

      by invisiblewoman on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:37:20 PM PDT

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    •  Does anyone notice that the 2016 Presidential (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      commonmass

      election run started this month?

      We will never be free from fear as long as we fear the NRA.

      by captainlaser on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:59:05 PM PDT

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  •  Won't quit until it hurts (3+ / 0-)
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    I wouldn't expect the GOPers to even tolerate Obamney-care until they start paying a political price as they did for trying to roll back Social Security, etc., in the past.


    My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.—Carl Schurz
    "Shared sacrifice!" said the spider to the fly.—Me

    by KingBolete on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:22:53 PM PDT

  •  Fine...drop the filibuster for that, too, Harry. (2+ / 0-)
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    Mr MadAsHell, ColoTim

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:28:31 PM PDT

  •  The O word-I won't have what he's having (7+ / 0-)

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:30:17 PM PDT

  •  when obamacare (2+ / 0-)
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    is seen as a positive in peoples eyes as it should the gopers will refuse to call it that in their talking points, then it will be called whatever their focus groups say is a negative in the responses.

  •  I have had about enough of Stupid (3+ / 0-)
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    Americans, don't vote for stupid.

  •  Its a sign that he's weak. (4+ / 0-)
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    If he's trying to stake out turf on ObamaCare, he's already lost. Everyone in the GOP is clear on ObamaCare. Nobody is 2016 will support it. Furthermore, he's likely to be the only person running in the primary who works in Washington. He will never be able to get the right of anybody on ObamaCare because he's already voted to fund it in the past.

    The more I see of Rubio, the more I get that he's not ready for a national campaign. He's got the brains, but he hasn't got the strategic sense of man and moment. I predict he will be a weak candidate in 2016.

    •  Weak he is. Lost his new kid luster by even (2+ / 0-)
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      brooklynbadboy, Matt Z

      talking about immigration so now he's going to flex his political muscle by getting behind the parade and sputtering about Obamacare.  Hardly the action of a real leader -- unless chronic pouting is the new leadership.  

      Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

      by judyms9 on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:40:57 PM PDT

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      •  The one big issue he's staked out some territory, (2+ / 0-)
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        is the one that Republicans hate more than ObamaCare. LOL. He's supposed to be staking out positions on the NEXT campaign, not re fighting the last one.

        He's got a problem some politicians have in which they start thinking they're clever.

  •  He's such an amateur (4+ / 0-)
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    I really can't see him doing all that well in a presidential race, he just seems so over his head all the time.

    My personal (political) blog is at http://polliticstoday.wordpress.com My new Twitter: @RushHolt4Senate

    by RVKU on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:36:58 PM PDT

  •  Alienating people who need affordable (4+ / 0-)

    health care. What can go wrong with that?

    Pass the popcorn please.

    © grover


    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:38:24 PM PDT

  •  Congress has gone completely off its rocker. (3+ / 0-)
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    ColoTim, xxdr zombiexx, merrywidow

    Why don't they go on their summer holiday and not come back.

    They have not passed a substantive piece of legislation which has made it into law in two years.

    We will never be free from fear as long as we fear the NRA.

    by captainlaser on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 02:58:19 PM PDT

    •  Just make sure they actually "recess" rather (0+ / 0-)

      than hold those ten second "sessions" every couple days so that the President can't appoint people to vacancies.  The Supremes are probably going to rule against the President's recess appointments just so they can cripple the NLRB rulings (and every other federal agency) but if Reid can do away with the filibuster next week it won't matter.

    •  But they vote every day! (0+ / 0-)

      their base knows they vote against the president every day and they need do no more than stop the black man

  •  Rubio shows his Tiger Form Kung Fu (1+ / 0-)
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    He's no match for Rumsfeld.

    Rummy's the master.

  •  World Class Health Care? (0+ / 0-)

    The AMA has a report out that does not indicate that our system is even close.  Check it out:  The State of US Health, 1990-2010 Burden of Diseases, Injuries, and Risk Factors

  •  Democratic President: Running a surplus (0+ / 0-)

    GOP: Running out of excuses.

    Just try to pitch in and help your nations citzens Republicans, how much farther along could we have been if you all weren't a bunch of babies...

  •  Congress gets socialised medical coverage (0+ / 0-)

    FOR LIFE.

    Why not the rest of us?

  •  what is it with the Republicans? (0+ / 0-)

    Do they think that they are the Supreme Court?  Or God?  

    Since the Reagan years, and especially since the Dubya years, when they defunded, among other things the SEC -- leaving far too few investigators and directly leading to the Bush Depression -- and the FDA, resulting in numerous recalls and needless deaths, they have made a game of this.  

    The disrespect they have for our system of laws and for the voters who chose representatives advocating policies with which the Republicans disagree is staggering.  

    And they  no longer even pretend to honor the intents of the electorate or our "forefathers."   They're increasingly gleeful in announcing that they will swat away anything that's in their path, as they attempt to steal our lives, our livelihoods, our money and our hopes to satisfy their mean-spirited, greedy ends.  

    They demanded fealty toward every inane, illegal act of Dubya, labeling logical, reasonable people "traitors" for daring to disagree with our so-called "elected" Decider, but now they actively encourage and engage in insubordination, undermining every part of our government and disrespecting our legitimately elected president.

    What's with them?  They're nuts and they're criminals.  Fair-minded citizens should demand that all of them should be incarcerated and stripped of their pensions, health care and the salary they have stolen under false pretenses.  

    They have not represented the American people; they have served only themselves and their corporate buddies.  

  •  Rubio isn't even talented enough (1+ / 0-)
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    to make it as a tea-bagger.  He's just a FOX figment promoted as the Hispanic Republican when it was needed and picked up by a mainstream media too stupid to look at his prior record before labeling him intelligent, charismatic or a leader.

    This guy could be a very successful car salesman or bartender or insurance agent.  He's no national political leader.

    His thirst for relevance is more painful to watch than the first time we saw his need for aqua.

  •  And which way (0+ / 0-)

    Which way will the Rubio weather vane point tomorrow?  

    Tallyho, and the jamoke is off.  

  •  A man who can't win at his own game, that's Rubio. (0+ / 0-)
  •  But.... (0+ / 0-)

    Rubios base does consist of a bunch of dumb rubes who adore him. Ship his little brown butt back to Cuba.

  •  Why (0+ / 0-)

    Do we care and focus so much energy on this guy. He is a kid, born in Cuba, he will never be able to run for higher office.  Let us focus on GOP candidates that will run and look to ruin their hopes by whatever means necessary.  

  •  Try and try again, and again (0+ / 0-)

    " we're now more than three years removed from the passage of Obamacare, Republicans are still talking about trying to sabotage it, even though they haven't been able to repeal it"

    The Prescotts, Bushes, Harrimans, Mellons etc etc have been trying to repeal social Security, for a lot longer and yet they persevere. We can now add Kochs, Waltons, Olin foundation, Bradley foundation and a plethora of others joining the former to also kill Medicare, Medicaid, IRA Accounts, 401ks, FMLA and again etc etc.

    They keep working at it, and they are more focused. Unlike the elite during the Wars to end all wars our US elites hire Praetorian Guards to do their fighting, they don't risk their own children anymore and clear out their gene pools.

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