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It's been more than four years since Oscar Grant was shot in the back while pinned to the ground by BART officers. Fruitvale Station, a movie abut this incident, was recently released to a limited number of theaters, and will have a nation wide release later this month.

I had the experience of seeing this movie last night, and I can't praise it highly enough. I wanted to say pleasure of seeing it, but that isn't really correct. It wasn't a pleasure. In some ways it was incredibly difficult. The movie consists of the last 24 hours of Oscar's life.  If it's playing anywhere near you I suggest you go see it as soon as you get a chance.

But what I really keep thinking back to is the fact that they handcuffed him after they shot him. I had known that that Mehserle had done it, but I'd forgotten. Seeing that in the movie really brought all of those emotions back to me. The anger, the sadness, the helplessness in the face of these overwhelming forces. The anger at the police who keep getting away with murder. I could list the names, but there would be so many left out. The sadness for that huge chunk of our nation that lives in fear of this exact thing happening to them.

They handcuffed him after they shot him. It just keeps popping into my head and I don't even know what to say. How do you handcuff a dying person? I can't think of a more effective denial of a person's humanity than to handcuff them while they're dying. Mehserle shot him and then handcuffed him. And he served 11 months.

I wish I could give the historical context, tie this to lynchings, which is certainly there. But I just can't get passed the simple visceral reaction I have every time I think about it. So that's all I have to contribute here. They handcuffed him after they shot him.

Originally posted to AoT on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM PDT.

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  •  Un-fucking-believable. (15+ / 0-)

    I will see if it's showing in DC.

    Ou sont les neigedens d'antan?

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 12:17:29 PM PDT

  •  Where's Wallace, Strang? Where the fuck is Wallace (2+ / 0-)


    “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

    by 420 forever on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 12:21:52 PM PDT

  •  Sad & scary. I'll check to see if it's playing... (8+ / 0-)

    in Tampa Bay.
    There was a good deal of talk about the film on cable news because it was being released in some cities at the time The Zimmerman verdict came down.
    Thanks for the excruciating videos. It will be hard to watch the film.

    I share a birthday with John Lennon and Bo Obama.

    by peacestpete on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 02:27:34 PM PDT

    •  Fruitvale Star Almost Cancels Q&A after verdict (13+ / 0-)

      Sorry I can't link to this article.
      It's at
      Deadline/Hollywood site.

      ‘Fruitvale Station’ Star Michael B. Jordan Almost Cancels Q&A After Zimmerman Verdict

      By PETE HAMMOND | Saturday July 13, 2013 @ 11:54pm PDT

      UPDATE: At a Q&A following a Saturday night screening of Fruitvale Station in LA, star Michael B. Jordan told the audience: “I want to hear your questions tonight and answer them. But if you could keep it away from Trayvon, I think my opinion on that is not going to help anybody right now.” Jordan was there to talk about the acclaimed Sundance and Cannes Film Festival award-winning film about Oscar Grant, the young black man who was killed by a white BART officer in a 2009 New Year’s Eve incident at the Fruitvale Station stop in Oakland. ”My heart hurts so bad right now. I wasn’t going to come after I found out about George Zimmerman getting acquitted. It broke me up. That’s why I think this film means so much, because it keeps happening again and again. [We must] learn how to treat each other better and stop judging one another just because we’re different. It’s not just a black and white thing, it’s a people thing. It’s the only way that things are going to take the necessary steps to move in the right direction so things can get better because I don’t think it’s ever gonna stop, but something’s gotta f***g change.”
      Very sad situation all around.

      I share a birthday with John Lennon and Bo Obama.

      by peacestpete on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 02:44:07 PM PDT

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  •  I almost feel that if we as a nation... (16+ / 0-)

    cannot get more outrage with video evidence like this, if we cannot get the collective masses of this country to join together in outrage over murder this blatant, right out in public, caught on camera, then all hope is lost.

    I am reminded of the over quoted poem by Martin Niemöller:

    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for the Catholics,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.
    Copied from Wikipedia

    If we cannot find it in us to work with the working class conservatives and libertarians to show them that we need to stand together as Americans to fight this police/surveillence state that this country has become, then we might as well just give up and accept we have lost.  

    Today it is an unarmed young black "suspect" but tomorrow it will be a demonstartor that didn't yield quickly enough and the day after that it will be woman who was trying to run away from an officer who she accused of trying to rape her and then it will be someone posting a comment on a political blog that was considered to be seditious.  

    Think about how outrageous this sounds if we would have said the following statements just twenty years ago;

    Imagine an America with militarized police forces that have tanks and flying drone aircraft that can spy on you or shoot you from anywhere in the country.

    Imagine an America where they can record every person in America's phone call, every message, every electronic letter and keep it without a warrant or any reason for suspicion.

    Imagine an America were a man can shoot and kill a  woman because she would not provide sex to him for money and be aquitted because she violated a presumed contract.

    Imagine an American where they can routinely video the police shooting unarmed Americans laying face down and restrained, not stopping their bicycles quickly enough, shooting nonviolent protestors in the head with teargas canisters and every one of them get away with little more than a slap on the wrist.

    Imagine a world where they can turn on your portable phone without your knowledge and know presicely where you are at all times, listen to your private conversations even when you are not using your phone, and even take pictures and video from your phone all without you knowing it.

    Imagine an America where there is something called the Department of Homeland Security and they can come into your house when you are not there, without a warrant, called a sneek and peek, and check out your things without ever letting you know about it.

    Imagine an America where they government has a kill list that the president can authorize certain American citizens to be killed without a trial or any judicial oversight what-so-ever.

    Imagine an America where if you tell anybody you saw the government or employees thereof committing crimes, you can be arrested, tortured and held in prison, tried of treason and if they wanted to not even tried at all.  They do not even have to tell your family that you have been arrested or that they know where you are.

    Imagine an America where multinational corporations are considered to have the same rights as people to spend as much of their money as they want to lobby and influence the vote for their candidate but the Attorney General comes out and admits that these same companies are to big to prosecute for any crime.

    Imagine an America where only six corporations control 90% of the media and one of them in particular spreads so much misinformation that people who watch it are more misinformed about public event than people who watch, listen or read nothing at all.

    Imagine an America where a President could have his country attacked by a forieign terrorist group killing thousands of people and destroying trillions of dollars in wealth and then run for re-election on the motto "He kept us safe" and win.

    I don't think I would have believed all of that could possibly happen in just twenty years.  We need to come together as a nation, the 99%, and defend the REAL America.  The America that stands for actual freedom and civil rights and actual brotherly love.  We can go back to fighting amongst ourselves after we have won the war against these corporate oligarches.

    "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

    by Buckeye Nut Schell on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 03:31:09 PM PDT

    •  White Americans don't care if the person isn't (5+ / 0-)


      There is some kind of term beyond race....or empathy. The jury couldn't relate to TM as a person. TM wasn't human. Oscar Grant wasn't human to the evil police or the evil jury.

      nosotros no somos estúpidos

      by a2nite on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 07:08:08 PM PDT

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      •  Not all white Americans... (2+ / 0-)
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        But unfortunately, I agree that some people do not see other human beings as human because of their race or their religion or their skin color.  

        It has been a well known military tactic since the first days of war that in order to retrain people to override their instincts, the religious beliefs not to kill one another, they have to dehumanize the enemy.  Soldiers in the field in vietnam didn't see young men on the other side fighting because their government was making them just like the US was making our soldiers.  They saw kooks (renaming them as a degrading term helps to dehumanize).  The same works with nigger, wetbacks, fags, and so on.  By giving people a degrading name, you do not have to consider them to be anything like you.  If not, you would not be able to kill without losing your mind with guilt.

        We do it here to.  Many here do not see conservatives as human.  We see them as rethugs, wingers, extremists, anything but human.  They are our enemy and they feel the same way about us.  We are fighting with each other when in reality, we are not each other's real enemy.  If we sat down with each other and committed ourselves to trying to get along, I think we would find that in a case by case basis, we agree more often than we do not.  That was the brilliance of MLK.  He dressed black men in their Sunday best and marched them down the street and even when they were hit and spit on, they maintained their composure.  He made the white race see the black race as human beings; strong, proud and more civilized than the monsters out their throwing rocks and spitting on people.  That was his power, that was what brought about civil rights.  He re-humanized the black race in the eyes of Americans and created an unstoppable momentum of progress.  I always thought the mistake of the Gay Pride parades was the extravagent costumes and dress.  I believe that if a gay pride parade walked down the street in business attire and looked indistinguishible from any other parade of business and working people then gay rights would have been won long ago.  

        We need to agree to disagree on topics like abortion for now.  We need to agree to disagree about gun control.  We need to agree that lobbyists are stacking the deck against hard working americans and corporations are making record profits while the people that make them those profits can barely afford to buy their kids school clothes.  We are a divided America and the Authoritarians and corporate oligarchs have exploited our weakness far too long.  We need to unite this country and we cannot wait for the conservatives to be the first to reach out.  We need to be the change we seek.

        I would like to see a resurgence of the OWS and the TEA Party rejuvinated and working together to really make a difference.  Talk about the politicians freaking out, they would be terrified.  I think that by joining forces, people would stop seeing the two groups joined together, as extreme fringes but rather a united front.  The resistence would stop being called socialists and facists but rather the people versus the oligarchy.  

        Both groups would agree that having corporations write our laws (like ALEC) is bad.  Both agree that letting banks write their own tax laws and regulations is bad.

        Both agree that a surveillence state and a police state is bad.

        I know it is not much but it is a start and I am sure there is more.  We have to focus on the fact that we all love this country and we want it to prosper.  We both want the future to be better for our kids than it is for us.  Most of us do not want to spend our tax dollars building and upkeeping 900 military bases all over the world.  Most of us do not want our children killed fighting over seas so that one Middle Eastern can be overthrown and another one will replace him but at least Exxon got a good contract out of the deal.

        Let's work together by reaching out to our conservative friends, offer them a fig leaf and find common ground.  We all have plenty to be equally pissed off about so share a moment of mutual disgust and plot a path forward together.  

        "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

        by Buckeye Nut Schell on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 08:00:38 PM PDT

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        •  80% of all white Americans don't think there's (6+ / 0-)


          There it is right there.

          That evil juror on AC 360 is one. She is a bigot. TM was the guilty one. Then white people wonder why we're upset. Many of you just don't get it. It was ok to kill this kid in this evil woman's world. I think black people need to move to her neighborhood  & expose her to some black culture. Please read my one diary.

          The evil cons can go to hell. We've gotten raped by the cons. I imagine how they talk to the POTUS. FUCK them.

          We just have to out breed them.

          nosotros no somos estúpidos

          by a2nite on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 08:29:09 PM PDT

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          •  I couldn't agree more with your diary... (0+ / 0-)

            I am part of the 20%.  I am with you 100%.

            I do not know how we get through this but I know that we have one helluva a lot better chance getting through it together, side by side, hand in hand.

            Of that 80%, at least half of them are just plain ignorant (maybe willfully but ignorant just the same).  The other 40% are malicious.  I have said in the past that racism is a cancer but upon further review, I would say it is more like an infectous disease.  It infects not only the host but everyone it comes in contact with.  Left untreated, it will kill the host's soul and replace it with bitterness, unhappiness and lonliness.

            You have a beautiful family.  I am sure we both fear for our kids as they are growing up and move out into the world beyond our protection.   Do not let the ugliness of the ignorant infect you.  Do not let the fear in which they use as a weapon, relegate you to undue caution.  These animals are a dying breed in their final throws trying desparately to stay relevant.  This overt racism that has came to light over the last five years has been festering beneath the surface for the last forty.  It is good to get it out into the open.  Sunlight is a wonderful disinfectant.

            We both want the same thing.  I want your kids and my kids to feel safe walking down the street.  I want them to not have to worry that because they are a young black man or a young white girl that they will not make it to their destination safely.  I want them to be able to count on strangers and police to help them instead of being the cause for their concern.  We will get through this stronger than we came into it if we walk together and look out for each other.  We are on the same team.

            "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

            by Buckeye Nut Schell on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:14:07 AM PDT

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          •  This is pure hate speech above! (0+ / 0-)
            •  Oh? (0+ / 0-)

              It's not hate speech if it's fact-based. I don't know that it is fact-based, but you haven't shown that it isn't. Why not ask a2nite where s/he gets that information, or post something that shows otherwise?

              Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

              by Nowhere Man on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 01:39:43 PM PDT

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      •  Do you get outraged when a Black kills a black? (0+ / 0-)

        Do you get outraged when a White kills a white, or a black kills a white. Or do you just get outraged when a white kills a black?

         I think you just hate White People because we're all evil, right? Just come out and say it, quit beating around the bush.

        •  When people get away with murder (1+ / 0-)
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          it's outrageous. I'm not sure why you would think that people don't care about other races because they're outraged about another white person getting away with the murder of a young black man.

          If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

          by AoT on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 09:37:18 AM PDT

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          •  Because the outrage doesn't seem to be about... (0+ / 0-)

            murder, or that someone got away with it. The outrage is that a "White American" got away with it. Because we all know White American's don't care about Blacks or what happens to them. We're all Evil don't you know?

             And even if we aren't evil and think we are trying to be good, because of "White Privilege" we really are evil and we are so ignorant we don't even realize how Evil and stupid we are.

            •  Right, the real outrage is that blacks (1+ / 0-)
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              are blaming whites. Not that young black men keep getting killed and there's no justice for them.

              And if you're a white person fighting racism then great, welcome to the fight. Let's focus on racism and not worry about people claiming we're evil. The sooner we end racism the sooner people will stop calling whites evil.

              If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

              by AoT on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 10:21:28 AM PDT

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              •  Cops are killing Whites too! (0+ / 0-)

                Has any Cop gone to jail for Murdering Kelly Thomas? White Privilege didn't help him much did it?

                Now that I think of it that Cop who instigated the beating looked pretty dark to me. How bout I just start saying all people of Color are evil?

                 But I keep forgetting, it doesn't compare because of "White Privilege".

                 I'm not going to start throwing generalization around though because that is my whole point. Don't generalize or stereo type me and I won't do the same. I know Blacks don't like it when it's done to them, so don't do it to me.

                •  Yes, there are other problems too (2+ / 0-)
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                  codairem, Dr Erich Bloodaxe RN

                  I never denied that. And don't pretend like the killing of Kelly didn't get a ton of coverage here.

                  Not that you really care. You just don't want to think that racism is in any way related to how you live your life.

                  If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

                  by AoT on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 10:41:19 AM PDT

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                  •  Sure it got coverage! (0+ / 0-)

                    But did it spawn general statements about People of Color. Were all People of Color expected to share the blame for the way they beat that white boy?

                     And you don't know anything about how I live my life.

                    •  No, but it spawned general statements about (2+ / 0-)
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                      burlydee, Nowhere Man

                      the police. Ones that were accurate. Because people of color didn't benefit from the beating, but the rich and the police did. Violence directed downward is the problem. The police are a huge part of that problem. The violence is directed downward in many ways, but from people of color, in general, to whites in a way that benefits people of color is not one of them.

                      If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

                      by AoT on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 11:09:20 AM PDT

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                      •  You're not making sense? (0+ / 0-)
                        •  In other words (1+ / 0-)
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                          All violence is bad, except violence in self-defense. However, oppressive violence is really bad. Oppressive violence is that which strengthens the hand of those who are already on top, and weakens the hand of those who are on the bottom.

                          Once again: All violence is bad, except in self-defense. Examining the nature of oppressive violence does not in any way excuse non-oppressive violence. But it is what it is.

                          Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

                          by Nowhere Man on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 01:45:57 PM PDT

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                          •  I thought I ask a pretty clear question. (0+ / 0-)

                            I don't know how you got here cause it sure has nothing to do with what I ask?

                          •  No, you did not ask a pretty clear question. (0+ / 0-)

                            You wrote:

                            You're not making sense?
                            I suppose that's a pretty clear question if you're asking whether someone is making sense. Otherwise, it's not a question at all, it's a statement. Statements should be punctuated with a period or an exclamation mark, not a question mark.

                            That said, I did my best to rephrase the part of AoT's comment that I thought may have tripped you up. And I was trying to be nice to someone (you) who hasn't been all that nice. That is how I got there.

                            If you want to ask a pretty clear question, you could try again by writing something like, just for one example:

                            I don't understand what you mean by ...; could you please clarify that?
                            Clear now?

                            Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

                            by Nowhere Man on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 02:24:52 PM PDT

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                          •  You could go back slightly further in the thread, (0+ / 0-)

                            or you could butt out?

                          •  I'm here to stay. (0+ / 0-)

                            You can try rephrasing your question, or you can remain confused. It's up to you.

                            Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

                            by Nowhere Man on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 03:43:20 PM PDT

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                          •  That's fine, (0+ / 0-)

                            Wait right here and I'll be right back.

                          •  Spoken like someone (0+ / 0-)

                            who doesn't want to understand.

                            Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

                            by Nowhere Man on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 04:04:54 PM PDT

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            •  Such self-loathing. (0+ / 0-)

              You really shouldn't hate yourself so much.

              Ayn is the bane! Take the Antidote To Ayn Rand and call your doctor in the morning: You have health insurance now! @floydbluealdus1

              by Floyd Blue on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 10:38:54 AM PDT

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    •  Unity from both in Hawthorne incident (4+ / 0-)

      This was on a police site regarding the june 30th shooting of Leon Rosbys dog Max: Max is the "partner" he's refering to.

      Posted by jcolter on Sunday, July 07, 2013 07:44 PM Pacific     Report Abuse
           "Arrested for blaring his music"..........
      Funny, he wasn't approached until he put his "partner" in the car.
      Just one more case given to the public for justifying the GROWING hatred of American Law enFORCEment. Go to "free republic", or any other RIGHT leaning discussion forum, and you will see the blatant threats against us.

      This is NOT a "right/left" issue. Conservatives are lining up with "hippies" to draw a line in the sand against LE that stray from "serving and protecting".

      Dead dogs from anywhere other than DRUG HOUSES will draw fire from all citizens.

      This incident is ON those who didn't "react" well to being filmed.


      This is one of the few sane commentaters on there. A poster called  Scohan (an out an' proud liberal and "If I wasn't patrolling I would have been with the Occupy protesters, and a UK cop Broad8743 are the only reasonable ones.

      What he said is true: Max has a couple of sites on Facebook to draw attention to what happened. I've seen Oathkeepers on there, liberals, conservatives, races, countries etc. Ive never seen this before.  The mods make sure everything stays on topic.  With the exception of who we suspect are plants, everyone is pissed off about police brutality against people and pets.  I wish we could have this outrage everytime this happens to someone. As it is, I feel Max was shot instead of his owner, thank goodness.  As it was the shooting was a message for Mr.Rosby. And the movement is still growing the video went literally all over. Leon has had emails from everywhere the Congo, Denmark, Canada, Mexico, everywhere!

      "Growing your own food is like growing your own money" Ron Finley guerilla gardener extraordinaire.

      by pitbullgirl65 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 07:13:07 PM PDT

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  •  Important diary. (14+ / 0-)

    Oscar Grant, 1986-2009
    They handcuffed him after they shot him.

    God spare me the Heart to fight them... I'll fight the Pirates forever. -Mother Jones

    by JayRaye on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 05:31:08 PM PDT

  •  I left a variation of this comment (1+ / 0-)
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    after a different review of this movie in this venue, and I'll leave it now:

    Yes, the verdict was an insult, a slap, to the African American community. I felt that slap.

    But I also recognize that Johannes Mehserle may well not be a monster. On the testimony of those close to him, he was "devastated" after accidentally shooting Oscar Grant, when he'd meant to tase him. I don't doubt that testimony. What I also don't doubt, is that Mehserle got some bum legal advice. The lawyers, apparently, had told him to "keep quiet" after the incident.

    But keeping quiet, under the circumstances, was all wrong. It compounded the injury, the horror.

    Right after the shooting, Mehserle should have stepped up and said something to the press like, "Words cannot convey my regret at my mistake. Oscar Grant's parents are without a son, his child is without a father, and his friends are bereft, because of my action. I will live with this horrible mistake on my conscience every single day until I die. To Oscar's survivors, I can only say that I wish I, not Oscar Grant, had taken that bullet that awful day."

    Then the healing could begin.

    Thanks for the review.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 05:57:46 PM PDT

    •  I think calling him a monster (2+ / 0-)
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      shaharazade, karmsy

      is over the top, but that doesn't excuse anything. We've built a brutally racist system and he was just the cog on the front line of it. If we consider him a monster then I don't know what we'd call the higher ups that push for these outcomes.

      If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

      by AoT on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 09:40:06 AM PDT

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  •  Sorry to get a little meta here, (4+ / 0-)
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    Lisa Lockwood, ER Doc, Anne was here, AoT

    But would putting the name of the movie (and maybe the director, star, screenwriter) in your tags be a good idea? You may be able to attract moviegoers googling this movie who really don't know much about the backstory and bring them in not only to this diary but to the contemporaneous ones as well?

    Back on topic: thanks for the diary. I had no idea this was being made into the movie. I'll go search it out.

    © grover

    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 06:16:55 PM PDT

  •  The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. (2+ / 0-)
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    wasatch, shaharazade

    As a country we took our eyes off the ball and things slipped backwards.

    If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell. General Phil Sheridan USA

    by shigeru on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 06:29:45 PM PDT

  •  And they killed a Down's Syndrome patient (16+ / 0-)

    by asphyxiating him, according to the coroner's report, despite being warned to not touch him... this story just came to my attention today. His crime? Watching a movie twice without paying for the second viewing, something he very likely did not understand.

    It's part of a very large, systemic problem...

    Tipped and rec'd for all of them.

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    by mahakali overdrive on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 06:30:15 PM PDT

    •  It's been Open Season (5+ / 0-)
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      AoT, sillycarrot, codairem, burlydee, nachtwulf

      on our disabled youth for some time with the Brute Squad.

      My biggest fucking concern is the "police" when it comes to my young adult autistic son.

      I have no respect for the "police" in my area.  None at all.

      No word about the ever increasing police brutality against our youth from this administration.

      In this country, if you are "Not White", disabled or mentally ill - you are nothing to our police.

      In Oregon, an 11 year old CHILD was tazed because she was non-compliant in the am hours while walking along I-5 nude.  She was autistic.  The cop tazed her.  Didn't offer aid or  assistance or even think this child may have been a victim of a crime.  Just pull out their tazers or guns.

      We need a complete wash down of all our depts.  I'm sick of them.  

      I have to admit, I hate the police.  No trust, no respect, nothing.  

      "Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

      by Damnit Janet on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 10:12:56 AM PDT

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    •  I worked in a facility that worked with adult DD (0+ / 0-)

      patients and one of the first things you learn is that if a patient became unruly, you could not restrain him/her on his stomach, because he would suffocate.  That is basic training. Bullies with badges.  

  •  Well that's the evil racist police for you nt (2+ / 0-)
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    Shockwave, AoT

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 06:58:46 PM PDT

  •  Just saw it tonight (6+ / 0-)

    At the Maine International Film Festival, in Waterville, in a packed theater.
    Very powerful movie -- definitely worth seeing.  But brace yourself.  As AoT says, it is difficult in parts.

  •  Awards (1+ / 0-)
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    nuclear winter solstice

    It won the Grand Jury Prize and the Audience Award at this year's Sundance Film Festival.
    Pretty impressive.

  •  I don't know what it is about Oscar Grant (4+ / 0-)
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    but I think of him everyday. I watched the video twice and that was enough. I can't even look at his picture. He has a kind face. smh. Won't be watching the movie.

    "Growing your own food is like growing your own money" Ron Finley guerilla gardener extraordinaire.

    by pitbullgirl65 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 07:21:27 PM PDT

  •  Grant's photo of Mehserle (4+ / 0-)

    when he was approaching Grant.

    It was used by prosecution to show two things: 1. that he [Mehserle] knew his Taser from his gun, that he had actually taken out his Taser twice, that he knew full well between the two weapons. 2. That Oscar was being abused and was concerned about it.

    It was one of many pieces of evidence. It’s part of the puzzle, and hard to tell which ones stuck with the jury.

    What facts were presented about the photograph, when it was taken? Did he take it while face down, turning around?

    Grant was sitting on the ground. The guys were sitting on the edge of the platform for a while. He wouldn’t have had the opportunity in the last moments, the officers were on top of him, with his arms behind him.

    "Growing your own food is like growing your own money" Ron Finley guerilla gardener extraordinaire.

    by pitbullgirl65 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 08:06:07 PM PDT

  • posters.. (7+ / 0-)

    Curious I looked up what they said about the Oscar Grant shooting. It was dreadful. There are a few sane commentators, but the majority of them were racist, justified Officer Johannes Mehserle actions, and disregarded the fact Grant was sitting on the ground, minding his own business.
    It's not to Serve and Protect. Its to oppress and enforce.  

    "Growing your own food is like growing your own money" Ron Finley guerilla gardener extraordinaire.

    by pitbullgirl65 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 08:34:10 PM PDT

  •  Police Some Are Really Really Bad Cops (2+ / 0-)
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    AoT, codairem

    My brother had a stroke and has problems speaking clearly. He stopped to look at a used car on the side of the road. The owners of the car thought his slurred speech was due to him being drunk. They called the police.

    When the police arrived they also suspected my brother was a drunk (he doesn't drink). They placed him under arrest threw him on the hood of his car, injured his arm all the time ruff handling him. They took him off to jail and after they tested him and found him to be clean they just released him. When his Mom called to ask why he was beaten up the officer who arrested him told my Mom he did not have time to speak with her and hung up.

    Freeport, Maine Police Department has many thugs.

  •  wait, did I miss something? (1+ / 0-)
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    Cause as far as I can tell, he was shot for absolutely no reason. While pinned down? Why would they do that?

    "Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth."

    by kamrom on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 11:14:30 AM PDT

  •  Zimmerman essentially did the same thing (2+ / 0-)
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    Nowhere Man, AoT

    After he shot Trayvon, when he got on top of him, and a neighbor approached with a flashlight saying he was calling 911, Zimmerman said they had already been called and he didn't need him to call, he needed him to help restrain Trayvon.  

    So as Trayvon lay there dying, his main thought was still about needing to restrain him, fearing he was dangerous, even as he lay there taking his last breath.  

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