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Taliban says its fighters arrived in Syria (video)

From link above:

The Pakistani Taliban has said its first batch of fighters arrived in Syria to fight alongside the rebels the regime of President Bashar al-Assad. The group's spokesperson Abdul Rashid Abbasi said the fighters have set up their command and control centre to start operations in the war-torn country. Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder reports from Islamabad.

So, another group of real terrorists, like the Taliban certainly are, sending forces to fight against the Assad regime in Syria.

Here is more from NBC:

Leaders of the Pakistani Taliban claim to have sent “hundreds of fighters” to Syria to support local mujahideen forces in their struggle against President Bashar Assad.

Senior commanders in the militant Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, a group considered close to al-Qaeda, said they were sending fighters on the request of their “Arab friends.”

So, the question is why is the Obama administration getting involved in Syria in any way, or why does the UK gives support to rebels.

It makes no sense.   As terrible as the Assad regime is, the rebels are worse and have committed horrific crimes, including (real) cannibalism.

Putin may be right after all when he asked the US and allies not to arm "organ-eating" Syrian rebels rebels.  

Russian President Vladimir Putin warned the West on Sunday against arming Syrian rebels "who kill their enemies and eat their organs," referencing a widely circulated video that purports to show a rebel fighter eating the heart of a dead soldier.
We need to stay completely out of Syria.   It makes no sense getting involved there in any way.
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  •  I dunno if the rebels are worse (1+ / 0-)
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    Nada Lemming

    it's a pretty neck and neck race.  Sniping children on a playground, killing them first so their parents can watch before the parents die...I dunno we'll have to see who wins the "more monstrous" category in this competition.  

    "Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world. By non-hatred alone is hatred appeased. This is a law eternal."

    by sujigu on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 04:39:48 AM PDT

    •  Yes, both sides are terribe (2+ / 0-)
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      •  Cannibal Rebels are decapitating Catholic Priests (0+ / 0-)

        They are FAR worse.

        Ironically, the Obama administration is collaborating with the Egyptian military to ensure that fundamentalist extremists don't seize the government.

        Yet, in Syria, the Obama administration is attempting to help fundamentalist extremists seize power.

        Go Figure.

        Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

        by PatriciaVa on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:22:01 AM PDT

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        •  Umm, okay but (0+ / 0-)

          torturing people in front of their families before you kill them is pretty damned bad.  

          Hypocrisy in foreign policy is to be expected.  We cheer on free speech in Egypt, but it's all hush hush when Saudi troops enter Bahrain.  

          "Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world. By non-hatred alone is hatred appeased. This is a law eternal."

          by sujigu on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 09:08:36 PM PDT

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  •  We certainly should be involved. (3+ / 0-)
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    corvo, joanneleon, Nada Lemming

    In building refugee centers in Jordan and setting up field hospitals in Turkey.

    But with the exception of a few factions that are just about wiped out, there are no good guys in Syria to arm.

    Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

    by JesseCW on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 04:49:49 AM PDT

  •  Or maybe not. (4+ / 0-)

    Who knows? Since BW likes to cherry pick information from her links, here is something left out from the diary.

    Stating that the Taliban wanted international attention, a senior Pakistani military official said:

    "How can they claim to be sending fighters to Syria when they failed to resist Pakistani security forces and surrendered their strongholds in the tribal areas"
    Apparently other Pakistani government officials also disputed the claim. Now I have no idea if these people are lying or if the Taliban people are lying. Neither side inspires confidence in their veracity, but it is not a known fact as the title of this diary indicates.

    You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

    by sewaneepat on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 05:02:32 AM PDT

    •  Well, there is this from Rueters (4+ / 0-)
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      The Pakistani Taliban have set up camps and sent hundreds of men to Syria to fight alongside rebels opposed to President Bashar al-Assad, militants said on Sunday, in a strategy aimed at cementing ties with al Qaeda's central leadership.
      The story is here.

      From the article:

      More than two years since the start of the anti-Assad rebellion, Syria has become a magnet for foreign Sunni fighters who have flocked to the Middle Eastern nation to join what they see as a holy war against Shi'ite oppressors.

      Operating alongside militant groups such as the al Nusra Front, described by the United States as a branch of al Qaeda, they mainly come from nearby countries such as Libya and Tunisia riven by similar conflict as a result of the Arab Spring.

      And from a separate source:
      ... the CIA is long involved in distributing weapons and intelligence to the Syrian insurgents. The CIA organized weapons from Croatia and Libya and distributed those. The bills for those weapons were payed by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. New weapons are still arriving. There are also U.S. military special operation detachments in Jordan and Turkey training some of the insurgents.

      Orwell - "Political language ... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable"

      by truong son traveler on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 05:26:48 AM PDT

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      •  The Reuters story also quotes (2+ / 0-)

        the same Taliban leaders as saying they are in Syria. They well may be. That is not my point. My point is that BW states it as a fact when the article she quotes from also says other people say no. If she had said "Taliban says..." or "Taliban may be..." I would have no problem. I have no basis to believe either the Taliban or the Pakistani government, but I do believe that if one is writing a diary, one should present the information fairly and at least note that it is disputed. As I said, who knows?

        You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

        by sewaneepat on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 05:39:01 AM PDT

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      •  I think it's better to think of them (2+ / 0-)

        as mercenaries.  There are jihadists for hire in the Middle East whether they are AQ, Taliban, or some other flag. And somebody is paying them to go to Syria.  We've heard it was Qatar, but I hardly think they are the only ones.

        A proxy war fought by mercenary jihadists.

        "Justice is a commodity"

        by joanneleon on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:17:39 AM PDT

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  •  Meh... (3+ / 0-)

    These kinds of statements by the Pakistani Taliban are part of their PR campaign. They obtain maximum attention (eeek!) for minimum actual investment, particularly when their pronouncements are hyped in vested regional and international media. Their #1 desire is to be perceived as relevant, and many media (for a host of reasons) are delighted to oblige them.

    Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. (Terry Pratchett)

    by angry marmot on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 06:08:36 AM PDT

    •  In this case (2+ / 0-)

      I think it's much simpler than that.  Mercenaries are being recruited all across the Middle East and Northern Africa. They are sent there and paid by Gulf states and probably by us too.  Our CIA has been there training them for a couple of years and arranging for weapons to be sent in.  We should stop fooling ourselves.  

      "Justice is a commodity"

      by joanneleon on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:20:03 AM PDT

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  •  Too late for that (2+ / 0-)
    We need to stay completely out of Syria.  
    We're in deep in Syria and we have been for two years.

    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:12:57 AM PDT

  •  The Free Syrian Army (2+ / 0-)
    The Free Syrian Army is nothing but a marketing front for a whole bunch of disunited criminal and jihadi groups. Weapons flowing to it would certainly end up in hands of those the "west" would not like to be armed too much or to win the war. The administration has no real plans for Syria. It has no strategy and no idea who it wants to come out winning the war. But as long as the country gets destroyed it seems to be fine with the war proceeding endlessly.
    The "west" has somewhat recognized that its policies on Syria were deeply wrong. But it seems difficult to publicly acknowledging that and to openly change course. We therefore get a muddled policy with a lot of agonizing and, like in other cases, no real strategy behind it. From Syria's perspective this muddled "western" policy is not as bad as others could be.

    But as long as Syria continues to disintegrate and Assad is tied up fighting off the jihadists, the West is happy because an ally of Iran is weakened.  They claim to want to help the Syrian people, caught in the middle of an imperialist war, but they just let them continue to suffer and suffer because it serves their purpose. Collateral damage. Anyone who says that an intervention would be for humanitarian reasons is a f'ing liar.  

    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:25:22 AM PDT

  •  I notice (0+ / 0-)

    NBC is back to using the term mujahideen.  Haven't seen that word used since Reagan was in office.  Remember, OBL used to be mujahideen, until he turned on us.  Then he was a terrorist.  

    Never before have we been simultaneously fighting and arming the same people (so openly).

    Bad things aren't bad! And anyway, there's mitigation!

    by Nada Lemming on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 04:31:37 PM PDT

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