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I just finished yet another long Facebook battle with someone who thinks Obama is a race-baiter, Trayvon was a thug who deserved what he got, there should never have even been a trial, and the whole thing was never about race.  The latest theologian even claimed that  the specific drink Trayvon  purchased, "together with Skittles are 2 of 3 ingredients of "Lean" (AKA Sizzurp) a recreational drug popular in the hip-hop community that can also lead to feelings of agitation and paranoia."  Seriously.  I had not heard that one before.

Anyway, after explaining that we really do not have to argue about how old Trayvon looked on the night in questions since we actually know exactly what he looked like. http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/... I finished on a positive and constructive note:

Since you believe in gun rights and the right to stand ones own ground, would you please sign the petition to Governor Scott for him to grant clemency to a woman who was sentenced to 20 years in prison for firing a warning shot to scare off her abusive husband. I think it is a cause that Conservatives and Libertarians should really be able to get behind. Her husband had an extensive criminal record, she had no record whatsoever, and was a contributing member of society and a mother. She even has a Master's degree http://www.change.org/.... Here is a news story about it: http://www.cbsnews.com/...
The pessimist in me knows that once he sees her mugshot it is all over.  But the optimist within me hopes that some Republican somewhere will get the idea that this would be a great way to pretend that they really are not racist after all.  Feel free to spread it around anyway.
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  •  they'l just say (2+ / 0-)
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    doroma, Vita Brevis

    if she was so smart why did she marry someone with an extensive record? They will blame the victim. Say she deserved it for putting herself in harms way.

  •  Never should have been tried - reponse (3+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, ChiTownBlue2000, WakeUpNeo

    This is from an ex-DA (me):

    I wasn't following the trial closely, so I don't know all the details, but:

    1.  Before someone can be tried for a felony, there has to be either a grand jury indictment or a probable cause hearing, or they can be waived.  I did hundreds of probable cause hearings which are short mini-trials.  If there is not enough evidence for a trial, the judge will dismiss the case, months before there can be a trial.

    2.  During the trial, when the prosecution rests, the defense will make a motion for a judgment of acquittal, outside the jury's presence.  If the judge finds a jury cannot convict based on what has been presented, the judge enters the acquittal, and it never goes to the jury.

    3.  After the defense rests, before final argument and instructions, the defense renews this motion, and, again, the judge will acquit the defendant without the case going to the jury, if the judge finds insufficient evidence to support a conviction.

    For any of the above, the judge could have dismissed the 2nd degree murder charge and let the manslaughter charge go to the jury.

    The jury was out 16 hours.  I never had a jury out more than 12 hours, and that was unique for me.  That shows it wasn't a slam dunk.  It is a lot easier to get 6 to agree than 12, and in my state we had 12 person juries for felonies and 6 for misdemeanors (usually drunk driving).  I never had a 6 person DUI jury out for more than an hour.  The one blabbermouth juror said that they were split 3 to 3, which confirms they disagreed and argued for 16 hours.

    "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

    by Navy Vet Terp on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 01:26:24 PM PDT

  •  The evil racist Rs don't care, this was the (0+ / 0-)

    Intended outcome.
    N!----s go to jail or get killed for being uppity. That is what the law is for to give white people the pretense of civilization.

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 02:03:14 PM PDT

  •  Oh for the love of cheese (1+ / 0-)
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    Istillhope

    You'd think that anyone who's such a keyboard master, could use teh google to find out that Skittles, the candy is NOT Skittles the street name for medicines containing dextromethorphan!

    DXM is the drug that has the street name Skittles. DXM is short for Dextromethorphan. It can usually be bought as over-the-counter cough medication. Overdosing past 900mg causes hallucinations.
    The only high you're going to get from the kind of Skittles TM had is a sugar high.

    Next up, how to make meth from M&Ms because you know. "M".

    We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

    by Vita Brevis on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 02:03:30 PM PDT

  •  Note: fix the Sullivan link (0+ / 0-)

    There's an extra comma at the end that's messing things up.

    We don't want our country back, we want our country FORWARD. --Eclectablog

    by Samer on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 03:13:27 PM PDT

  •  I'd like your opinion. (0+ / 0-)

    link

    It's specifically about the Marissa Alexander case.

    Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

    by KVoimakas on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 10:35:39 AM PDT

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