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In reply to a couple of diaries, where did the hope go, and they all disappoint.

No matter what side of the aisle you stand upon no matter who won if you were a dedicated follower of fashion [in a political sense] after all the hyperbole and electoral speech funded by hundreds of millions of misspent dollars [it should be cheaper it really should].

Your whims have been pandered to; based on careful polling within the campaigns and the well scripted oratory that follows. Whether it is "ra-ra more guns" or "healthcare for all" there is something in it for the true partisan.

In general I vote for the DP candidate [with the rare standout exception, you go Bernie] not because of any innate belief that there will be a turn around  how government works but; that there will be a slow down in the crazy and a touch of resistance to giving the wealth of the nation to the 1%.

I have never been surprised if the turnout is low; never, in fact I am always surprised that as many people vote as they do.

I often think elections are more similar to the Crufts dog show than they are to determine political content. The candidates are groomed and presented for us to examine, hopefully the comb-over has worked and the defects are well hidden. We have seen some notable implosions on both sides when the warts are spotted for the first time.

I still vote, only just mind you, but in general the cynicism rationalizes my resistance in getting excited by it all. Whoever wins I just hope they don't go too far to the extent that they

Declare preemptive war
Pardon Torture
Create panic driven legislation
Use the panic driven legislation
Use fear and loathing to justify racially driven laws
Get upset about the private lives of others and try to legislate against it.
Declare war on women
Declare war on Science
Photograph their private parts for public regard
Ignore the challenges posed by ever increasing anthropogenic global warming.
Fuck up the public education system and prioritize private schools.
Hit the poor hardest to pander to the richest.
Damage whole continents in a war on drugs where the market is driven by our own desires.

You know some pretty basic stuff.

I vote DP because at least there is some commonality in our thoughts and in general I find them less annoying.

Do I vote and enjoy the result?

Pretty rare.



Lost hope?

Not really sure what all that was about in the first place.

Annoyed with the trends in policy and politicians over the last few decades?

You bet.


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  •  Tip Jar. Investing hopes and dreams in sponsored (16+ / 0-)

    professional politicians is not  sound logic; if you want to change something fundamental start at the bottom.

    All great sea changes have been undertaken by demonstrable popular demand.

    Just my opinion

    "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

    by LaFeminista on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 11:47:47 AM PDT

  •  But WHAT IF... (3+ / 0-)

    We have credible intelligence of a threat!  (We Must declare war then and anybody who says differently clearly wants the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud)

    We have to torture because of a ticking time bomb!

    Gotta Look forward, and after all, we need to work with the other side.

    And if we don't respond to panics, there will be more panics!

    And why not use the legislation we logically voted for in a moment of panic?

    And racially driven laws are not about race, they're about statistics!

    The Private lives of others make us ALL victims because of the children.

    We're not declaring war on women, we're defending children.

    Science is just a theory, and must be PROVEN before we can give it credit.

    And we have to forgive the photographing of private parts because of all the SUCCESS that the candidate had.

    It's cold, so there's no Global Warming.

    Well, if the Public schools were any good by our arbitrary restrictive standards we wouldn't HAVE to privatized them.

    Clearly if the Poor want help they need to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps and become rich.

    Drugs cause all of the other problems, so if we stop them, everything will magically get better.

    Therefore, it's clear that you're just a bitter person who wants a magical pony.  

    And send more money to the DLC, because otherwise the Republicans will win...


    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 12:02:04 PM PDT

  •  I live in republican hell... I still vote... (2+ / 0-)
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    LaFeminista, Deep Texan

    we hardly ever win, but it feels soooo good to vote against
    the bastards...

    but slowly, there are small changes in people's attitudes that
    are snowballing, cascading into a giant tsunami of change,
    hopefully in my lifetime.  we just have to keep on fighting.
    sometimes I want to give up but my other self says fuck no...

    "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." *Ansel Adams* ."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."*Will Rogers*

    by Statusquomustgo on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 12:07:21 PM PDT

    •  Plenty to fight for, and plenty of energy for (3+ / 0-)
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      Statusquomustgo, tardis10, Deep Texan

      the fight.

      Its just that the political parties in themselves have little of real interest we know who their sponsors are, they should be forced to wear the logos.

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 12:09:33 PM PDT

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      •  Publicly funded elections and you (2+ / 0-)
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        LaFeminista, Deep Texan

        can only take donations from people that live in your district.
        That would stop a lot of this shit.  Election reform should be
        at the top of the list to change.  It would make a huge difference.
        My 2 cents...

        "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." *Ansel Adams* ."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."*Will Rogers*

        by Statusquomustgo on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 12:20:59 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  But are you for hope or against it? (4+ / 0-)

    I don't know whether to flame you or love you, so you better pick a side in todday's video game so I know aht to do!

    Nice post.  

    Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

    by TomP on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 12:12:18 PM PDT

  •  (I think you mean anthropogenic.) (0+ / 0-)

    (Although the mental image of anthropomorphic global warming is kind of delightful.)

  •  I totaly do not agree at all. (1+ / 0-)
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    Hé :)

    And I´m totally a troll :)

    I mean, seriously, of course there can be hope. That there isnt hope now, doesnt mean that thre cant be any. That there isnt a politician focusing peoples hopes now, doesnt mean that politicians cant carry hopes.

    Politicians can be there to carry hopes. Gore carried hopes, I remember, he was dismantled as the hopes he kindled were a significant threat but he was there and it is not long ago. The hopelessness people feel now (If I can take that for face value) is the direct effect of interested and conscious hope-preventing public message control. It is a made thing. Every child can inflame hopes, every human can do so, especially if they are named OPOL or buhdy or Meteor Blades. Everry person can look inside themyelves and find there the hopes they cherish, and they can look again outwards and find there the compatriots, the comrades and fellow living creatures to bundle up with. Anyone. Hopes, did not she, forgot her name, have any? Vera Zasulic? her hopes came to pass. The times can be dark, but they never just "are" dark, thea are always made dark. And people do never ever need to let that artificial, produced darkness spread into their inside and take them over. Throw away what you read and hear! If US trad-med-politicians are the embodiment of greyness and hopelessness and changelessness - then throw them away! Do not care for them any more! Think for a moment of your fellows and likemindeds, find them and bind yourself up with them and you will reissue hope, and carry it yourself even if you are not careful. Then, some of you will carry that hope further. People may break up and spread but they fall always into new fertile grounds as long as they do not allow themselves to be isolated. There was Sakharov. What hope did he have? Any? Do I need to ask what hope the prisoner on Robben Island had? The people who do not wish for change, they wish you to believe there is no hope.

    •  I didn;t say there is no hope, but it is better (1+ / 0-)
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      to create your own than rely on politicians, there are exceptions that prove the rule, and in our corporate styled system they are getting fewer and further between,

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 01:05:36 PM PDT

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      •  poor LF (1+ / 0-)
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        For you I have not hope, but ENVY !!! You live there in where Aremorica used to be! You get to talk the language of the people of one of the nicest countries west of the Rhine! Ah, hopelessness fills my heart that I can ever live up to such bliss :) Also you can marry. Now THAT kindled hope! I mean not that YOU can marry, but that episode when they got that through Parliament. I still think of it often! Now there is a politician (Taubira) who is the living counterexample to the spread of hopelessness on this board! More people should get to know her.

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