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Cross-posted from Blue Jersey under a different title. Apparently, there is DKos history I wasn't aware of that I'd rather just avoid.

This graphic, based on the poll tracker at Talking Points Memo, shows Chris Christie's favorables and unfavorables over his term as governor. I've added, in blue, several key events from this period to give some context as to why his numbers may have varied.

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Notice that Christie's three largest legislative accomplishments -- 2% Cap, Pen-Ben, and TEACHNJ -- have little if any positive effect on his favorables. I would argue there are only two big bounces: post-Irene, and post-Sandy. What does this mean?

Without natural disasters, Chris Christie's re-election chances would be much lower than they are right now.

Which means the presumed front-runner in the presidential race of 2016 does not have a lock on winning by a "bigger margin than any Republican in a generation." And he knows it, which is why he has set his sights far lower in recent months.

So Christie is mortal; in fact, I believe he can be beat. I believe this week's news that his lead over Barbara Buono has shrunk was inevitable; with a big push by Democrats and smart campaigning by Buono, that lead should, inevitably, shrink even more.

Given all this, you would think our lame-duck president -- who has nothing to lose in supporting Barbara Buono -- would make at the very least a cursory showing of support. You'd think Barack Obama would show just a little effort and enthusiasm for the only prominent Democrat in New Jersey who had the guts to take on the challenge of running against Christie. Out of respect to her, the state party, and all the people Christie has slimed over this last term, you'd think our "fightin' for you!" president could take a few hours to get on a plane and stand side-by-side with Buono, lending a fraction of his star power in the cause of at least slowing Christie's charge at the White House.

You'd be dead wrong:

President Obama is not planning to campaign for Democrat Barbara Buono in her quest to rob Gov. Chris Christie of a second term, the Associated Press reported yesterday.

This year and next, Obama only plans to lend his political firepower to close races where he could help cinch a win for his party, a Democratic official involved with Obama’s political plans told AP. The official wasn’t authorized to discuss strategy and requested anonymity, the wire service said.

Why? Why would Obama do this?
It's the type of delicate, race-by-race calculation the White House repeatedly will have to make in the 2014, when Obama's own legacy will be on the line. Next fall, voters will decide whether to elect a Congress that will help Obama achieve his goals for his final two years in office, or whether to elect one that will block him at every turn.
You're worried about your "legacy," Mr. President? Well, here's your legacy, at least in New Jersey:

You're dead to me. You're dead to every teacher Chris Christie insulted over these past four years. You're dead to every public employee Christie broke his promises to. You're dead to every gay and lesbian couple and their families who want marriage equity. You're dead to everyone in this state worried that our environment is being raped. You're dead to every woman seeking health care. You're dead to the middle class families who suffer under Christie's inept stewardship of our state's economy. You're dead to the students and parents who have to live with the consequences of Christie's refusal to adequately fund our schools. You're dead to those who will pay the price for Christie's politicization of our courts.

President Obama, by refusing to back Barbara Buono, you're dead to everyone who is appalled by Chris Christie's unrelenting assault on the values that made this state great.

If, Mr. President, you can't even muster up a shred of your time and your "legacy" to support Barbara Buono, then I say the hell with you.

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  •  it says he's "not planning" (26+ / 0-)

    to campaign for Buono, but it also says he does plan to campaign for Democrats in tight races. That means that, should Buono turn this into a competitive race, the President could very well campaign for her. It doesn't say he would never campaign for her under any circumstances...but that he currently has not plans to do so.

    Like you, Buono seems like someone who could surprise a few people. She's been chipping away at Christie's lead for the past couple of months.

    •  Now that's a very measured and thoughtful response (9+ / 0-)

      to the issue.  You're exactly right.  It's nice when someone eschews leaping to a conclusion in favor of slowing down to weigh the facts.

      Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity -- George Carlin

      by ZedMont on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 01:10:21 PM PDT

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    •  meh.... (6+ / 0-)

      I know too many Democrats and Independents who like CC and are voting for him.
      It is mind boggling how popular he is here.
      He is the master at this game...a true master.
      He tapped into what makes NJ voters tick..and its working.
      And every time he tells NY, PA, or something or someone that pizzes Jersyites off.....he gets another damn vote.

      No matter what he does...he gets a huge pass.
      This special election is costing us so much money we don't have.
      But, no one cares.

      I sit here in wonder and marvel at his mastery.
      And am heartbroken that I have to live with another four years.
      And then he might be my preznit.


      "My Mom is my hero, my angel and I revere her to no end.." Christin, July 6, 2013

      by Christin on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 01:20:52 PM PDT

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      •  In no way is that fat fu(k gonna be preznit. (1+ / 0-)
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        Stude Dude

        He's dead to the base of the GOP, they'd vote for Rmoney again before they vote for Christie.

        If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

        by CwV on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 02:09:46 PM PDT

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      •  you could be right... (4+ / 0-)
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        Stude Dude, Lh1695, NYFM, betterdemsonly

        ...however, there are several things that make me feel that Buono's not out of this race yet, such as...

        ...while Christie still leads by a large amount, that once-insurmountable-seeming lead of more than 35 points continues to tighten up. Over the past couple of months, Buono's been chipping away at that lead...if she continues to do so at the same pace, she could well make this a competitive race by mid-October (emphasis on the word "could" (and that assumes that she runs a near-perfect race)).
        ...Christie's made a couple of bone-headed decisions of them being his decision to blatantly and shamelessly waste millions of taxpayer dollars for his own personal calling for a special election for Senate just a few weeks before the already-scheduled general election...just to try to reduce African-American turnout during the general election. He also decided to waste precious Hurricane Sandy relief money promoting himself. Those are not wise decisions on his part, in my opinion.
        ...Christie has been anti-union, anti-women's rights and anti-gay during his tenure as governor. Buono could capitalize on Christie's terrible record with those groups.
        ...Buono's selection of a runing mate was a brilliant woman...a union official who is also a woman, giving voters in the state the first-ever all-female ticket for governor and lieutenant governor, who is also African-American, which can help counter Christie's blatant attempts to misuse taxpayer dollars on a special election to tamp down the African-American vote.

        Buono would have to run a near-perfect campaign and she'd have to stealthily stimulate turnout about the key Democratic constituencies mentioned above. If she does that...she could actually stand a chance, in my opinion.

        (Plus, Christie's an obnoxious, loud-mouthed blowhard, to boot.)

      •  What is wrong with them??? (1+ / 0-)
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        Did they learn nothing from what happened when dems  fell in love with Ronald Reagan??   PATCO supported Reagan and the first thing he did when he got in office was fire their a**es.    
        Like Reagan Christie is anti public education, anti union and anti women.   Are NJ people just ignorant or what?

        I have two cousins who live there and they despise Christie.  Of course she's a teacher.

        Seriously, if NJ dems support obnoxious bullies like Christie they deserve all his anti union, anti women, anti public ed policies.

        “We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.” Louis D. Brandeis

        by Jjc2006 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 04:39:37 PM PDT

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  •  Unbiased journalism there by AP. (15+ / 0-)

    Barbara Buono is seeking to "rob" Chris Christie of his second term. Sheesh! Because he clearly owns that.

    by Magenta on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 01:03:39 PM PDT

  •  I suggest that as well because we have (5+ / 0-)

    enough threats which I know you meant politically but just the thought of another dead president who is under threat daily is over the top.

    I am not the Kos police but using Obama and dead in the same sentence is not going to get anything but pie and donuts here.. I say this respectfully and know what you mean but maybe changing the title to Obama is hurtin New Jersey to Obama is disappointing me... or Obama has lost me ....Just a few ideas....

    I am not an Obama bot but I think it will cause distraction of your real message.  Of course it is up to you but expect an onslaught of not so nice posts and your message will be lost in the selection of your title.

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    by Vetwife on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 01:04:30 PM PDT

  •  What happen to the "Obama is dead to me" (3+ / 0-)
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    shopkeeper, Christin, second gen

    diary?  I clicked a link saying that and was redirected to this Obama/Christie/NJ diary.  WTF?


    •  Decided against it since being told that (1+ / 0-)
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      in spite of the fact that it may be a common phrase, it's still not a good idea. And the last "You're dead to me" diary that went up about Gabby Giffords proved to be a bad idea less than 12 hours later as she was shot in the head. Even though it was deleted, the cache of it was splashed over the entirety of the Intertubes.

      Although, the URL still shows it, and it's still written in the body of this whining diary.

      I'd like to start a new meme: "No means no" is a misnomer. It should be "Only 'Yes' means yes." Just because someone doesn't say "No" doesn't mean they've given consent. If she didn't say "Yes", there is no consent.

      by second gen on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 01:31:41 PM PDT

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  •  why would we want Pres. Obama to (10+ / 0-)

    spend time campaigning for any Democrats who are sure to lose their elections? His time is not infinite. No one who looks at this race soberly thinks Buono has got a shot at winning.  We may hate this fact, but it is a fact.

    •  This. (5+ / 0-)
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      skohayes, Loge, chuckvw, VClib, sebastianguy99

      Christie's lead has "shrunk" to 56%-36%.  If this were a Congressional race, the D-Trip/DSCC never would've gotten involved.  It's just not competitive.

    •  I recommend (1+ / 0-)
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      You research the history of Nj Governor races. Christie Tood-Whitman was actually down by 32 points at the same point in her race and won. Whitman didn't have the support of educators, public workers and women's groups from around the state.

      " The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams"-Eleanor Roosevelt

      by Lh1695 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 04:34:12 PM PDT

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    •  Yours is a loser strategy for losers. (0+ / 0-)

      And we all lose, because of this loser strategy.

      If Barack Obama had followed advice like yours back in 2007, he'd be spending his afternoons giving eloquent speeches on the Senate floor about the need for serious people to put away the filibuster and find common ground.

      To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

      by UntimelyRippd on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 05:32:43 PM PDT

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      •  Except that my advice to Obama wouldn't (1+ / 0-)
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        Adam B

        have been the same at all. He had a much better chance than Buono. It's not just about polls; you are comparing a race that has jelled to one that was just getting started. This race is so over. Anyone who understands politics and is willing to separate emotion is going to agree on that.

        •  Here's the deal doc: (1+ / 0-)
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          ek hornbeck

          In an effort to abide by the New Rules, I'm going to refrain from telling you what I really think of you and your opinions.

          Suffice to say -- and remember, I am holding way, way back -- I find them neither enlightening to those who need enlightenment, nor encouraging to those who need encouragement. I repeat: Yours is a loser strategy. Those of us living in the hellish broken states of the 2010 democratic apocalypse are paying for this loser strategy, every day. I despise it, not in the abstract, but in the very personal, very emotional context of seeing my community pay the price for pursuing the loser strategy. It is a strategy of compliance; a strategy of acquiescence; a strategy of weakness; a strategy of fear; a strategy of the easiest path rather than the necessary path; a strategy of timidity; a strategy trapped in the first order, oblivious to dynamics; a strategy of lowest aspiration and insignificant inspiration; a strategy of respect for the abominable and contempt for the admirable; a strategy for the lifeboat, not a society of 300,000,000.

          "We" are fighting a political war against an opponent that shares no substantial humanistic value with "us". I put those pronouns in quotes because I don't want you to think, for even a moment, that you are on "our" side. You and your loser strategy are a distraction, an epiphenomenon of the real war, yet one that manages to drain actual resources from the real war. The stakes are very, very high for the millions whom your strategy abandons. Indeed, it condemns many, many thousands of them to death, and many, many millions of them to suffering of a sort and degree with which you choose not to trouble your beautiful mind. It is unacceptable. It is intolerable. It is loser, and you are its paladin.

          Good day, sir.

          To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

          by UntimelyRippd on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 09:47:55 PM PDT

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          •  Read your comment in (0+ / 0-)

            the morning and ask yourself if you're really able to keep your emotions on this race in check. We talk politics on this blog, based on reality. If that conversation upsets you, you should find a different conversation.

            •  Heh. (1+ / 0-)
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              ek hornbeck

              Your smugness contributes no weight whatsoever to your opinions. Political reality has far more dimensions than the 2.5 you perceive. You fancy yourself a voice of reason, haughty, calm, rational in the face of unpleasant irrational human emotionalism; but the reality is that you are, simply, the voice of Lose. The advocate of Lose. The self-appointed, self-anointed, High Priest of Lose. The Man who Loved Losing.

              Oh, and this: you do not define what "we" talk about "here". You have no authority whatsoever, and precious little credibility. Reduce your hubris. Your capacities do not support it.

              To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

              by UntimelyRippd on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 10:39:14 PM PDT

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  •  You shouldn't diary when you're having a (8+ / 0-)

    temper tantrum. You write all kinds of stupid shit that makes people think: Wow. What a shitty diary.

    Titles like: "Barack Obama is Dead to Me" (which stills hows in the URL) and same statement in the body of the diary.

    Not to mention the "unnamed source" bullshit.

    I'd HR the diary, but it's just not even worth it.

    I'd like to start a new meme: "No means no" is a misnomer. It should be "Only 'Yes' means yes." Just because someone doesn't say "No" doesn't mean they've given consent. If she didn't say "Yes", there is no consent.

    by second gen on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 01:29:43 PM PDT

  •  I look at things with a more jaundiced eye (4+ / 0-)

    The President toured NJ with Christie after Sandy.  He may not have realized it at the time, may even have believed that it was necessary and proper, but in fact he was campaigning for Christie.
    The truth is that President Obama could have gone to New York, or could have toured NJ separately. He CHOSE to make Christie look good. Refusing to campaign against a politician he made is not surprising. Saying that the NJ race is a lost cause is just avoiding admitting to a mistake.

  •  Yeah, sure (2+ / 0-)
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    skohayes, Sunspots

    Why would we want the House back?

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    by tytalus on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 01:46:05 PM PDT

  •  As I read it, you have determined that you speak (3+ / 0-)
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    Sophie Amrain, Loge, skohayes

    for every teacher, every public employee, every gay or lesbian person, every environmentalist, every woman, every student, every parent of a student, and the entire middle class in NJ.

    wow.  you are something else then.

    "Don't Bet Against Us" - President Barack Obama

    by MRA NY on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 01:52:10 PM PDT

    •  Well.... (7+ / 0-)

      Yes, generalizing is something one is wise to avoid; however, Christie has screwed over every single one of those groups repeatedly.

      Teachers: He has warred against the teachers' unions and tried to cut education so deeply that his cuts were ruled unconstitutional.

      Public employees: The overhaul of the benefit plan designed to make state employees pay more toward their health care; A well-known desire to launch a divide and conquer war on public and private unions

      LGBT community: Veto of marriage equality legislation

      Environmentalist: Taking NJ out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, giving out waivers to polluters as though it were his job

      Women: His repeated attempts to defund Planned Parenthood; His fights with public sector unions and teachers would also disproportionately affect women.

      Student: See note on education earlier. Christie also is a well-known vocal supporter of voucherizing education. Christie also cut funding for community colleges, causing tuition rates to soar.

      Parent of a student: They'll bear the cost of the note above.

      Middle class: Doing nothing about the high foreclosure rate in the state, An economic plan that is nothing but giving away tax breaks to corporations that don't even create many jobs (at the cost of several $100,000s per job), vetoing minimum wage increases, one of the highest unemployment rates in the state

      The diarist could have phrased the statement better and done a point-by-point takedown of the governor. However, Christie has been an awful governor, and the national party gave up on this race before it really even started.

      There are a wealth of options to attack Christie on his record or to emphasize what a Democrat will support that he vetoed (minimum wage increase, marriage equality legislation).

      •  Regardless of what Christie has done to all these (1+ / 0-)
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        groups, none of which I would argue, a single person cannot speak for every single person in any one of those groups to say that President Obama is dead to them.

        To me, it just comes off a bit ridiculous.  Overreach is an understatement.

        "Don't Bet Against Us" - President Barack Obama

        by MRA NY on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 04:21:09 PM PDT

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  •  It took you a whole year to come up with this? (2+ / 0-)
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    4 comments in this diary and nothing else?

    Thank you for your concern.

    Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

    by Mike S on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 02:36:35 PM PDT

    •  few commenters addressing JJ's content (6+ / 0-)

      and a lot of sniping at :
      a stupid title he fixed pronto
      his right to post his first diary after a year of lurking (read his stuff,  he's one of the best minds talking education issues in NJ, and an important ed blogger nationally)

      I just got back from Washington on a bus.  There's no resource allocatin problem, even a shmoe like me can do NJ-DC round trip in a day, and the President doesn't have to take the Metro out to the stadium.

      National Democrats ignore Senator Buono at their own risk.  Enabling Chris Christie is a losing strategy.  No just for the 16 dimensional mah-jong  types.  Allowing blue NJ to be dominated by this governor poses a threat to our voting rights, our union density,  and the enthusiasm of a donor and activist base, especially among women.

      oh,  and it fucks a lot of poor and middle class people

      foolish and shortsighted

      It's not a fake orgasm; it's a real yawn.

      by sayitaintso on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 06:24:25 PM PDT

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      •  Thank you for that (6+ / 0-)

        Must say this was quite interesting. I posted here at a request from a commenter at Blue Jersey. "Why not?" says I. Must say I've learned quite a bit from the experience.

        I'm so old I remember a time when the Democratic party was run by a man who insisted that every race be fought. And if anyone said otherwise, they were considered the problem.

        I see we've... matured since then. How nice. It's working out so well for the left, don't you think?

        All those people I listed above: labor, women, LGBT, environmentalists, students, the middle class... things are so much better when they all just accept that a bullying blowhard - who may be talented but who certainly got lucky with the placement of some storms - is the inevitable winner so they can just curl up and die.

        Well, I'll leave it to the sage, politically seasoned minds here to triangulate and apportion the president's valuable time to obviously more important concerns. We here in Jersey can just simply fold up our tents and go home without a fight. We'll just have to learn to live with Christie's backers running things for another four years. No point in doing anything about it, right? That would just be "whining"...

        And it's nice of the president's staff to make it easier for those of us who have to live under Christie to face the inevitable by leaking this story to the press and further torpedoing Buono's campaign. Because, you know, fighting for a candidate who's got a slim chance is just so... well, so 1990's, don't you think?

        I just hope that all of you who think it's acceptable for the president to pull out of a tough fight don't turn around one day and find out your state or your district is going red because sticking up for members of your own party isn't politically expedient.

        Good night and good luck.

        •  As a Fellow Jersey Guy, don't let the Haters win (1+ / 0-)
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          Jersey Jazzman

          I read this first at Bluejersey and came here to see how this would play.  Some people are just so reflexively pro-whatever (in this case Pro-Obama) that the first line of attack is directed straight at the messenger.  I don't agree with your argument but it was well thought out and respectful of your audience and  
          deserves to be considered on its merits.  

          If the people here need a fainting couch over a chart and popular euphemism, then they are totally fucked if ever try driving down the shore on Friday in our fair state.

  •  I can't really blame him... (1+ / 0-)
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    Rich in PA

    It isn't very often that other politicians step in to campaign for someone who really doesn't have a good chance of winning.  Generally speaking, it doesn't make them look good (backing a loosing candidate), and that time could be more wisely spent backing a candidate who has a better chance.  Christie is very popular, and not likely to loose unless a major crisis flairs up before the election.

  •  How many New Jersey (4+ / 0-)

    Democrats are standing up for her?

    In addition to a lackluster effort by some New Jersey Democrats on Buono’s behalf, 45 Democrats have endorsed Christie’s re-election bid — a fact his campaign highlighted in lieu of a response to the news that Obama would sit this one out. As the only New Jersey Democrat willing to take on the popular Republican governor, Buono has faced an uphill battle.
    Yessh, and I thought Kansas Democrats were bad.

    Your beliefs don't make you a better person. Your behavior does.

    by skohayes on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 03:28:31 PM PDT

  •  The problem is October 16 (4+ / 0-)

    The special senate election. A confrontation between Booker & Christie on the same ballot would have made for an interesting split-ticket Election Day. With Christie topping the ballot & the Democratic  base self-satisfied with defeating right wingnut Lonegan (which we hope occurs, even with our doubts about Booker), the real danger is to down ballot Democratic candidates.

    "There ain't no sanity clause." Chico Marx

    by DJ Rix on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 03:30:51 PM PDT

  •  A year from now (1+ / 0-)
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    We are still about 15 months away from the election. If the race does tighten, there is plenty of time for Obama to help out. There isn't much he could do this early in the race that would likely have much impact, so far down the line. If Buono can make a race of it in the next 12 months, Obama could still help push her over the finish line. If she is nowhere close a year from now, nothing Obama could have done prior to that time would have made much of a difference. It wouldn't just be pointless. It could be counterproductive and come at a cost in other potentially winnable elections. He has only so much political capital to spend (to semi-quote you know who) and it should be focused where it can to make as big of an impact as possible. I would rather use Obama to help pick up  house and senate seats, rather than just end up just putting a speed bump in the way of the big guy's 2016 quixotic presidential plans. In the end Obama, may very well end up letting you down, but it may actually be the right call under the circumstances. We just don't know yet. You are free to tell me to stick it, but I would dial it down a little at this point until we see how things play out.

  •  Thank you (3+ / 0-)

    JJ for cross posting.

    " The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams"-Eleanor Roosevelt

    by Lh1695 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 04:36:25 PM PDT

  •  Obama would do this, because ever since the (2+ / 0-)
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    ek hornbeck, DownstateDemocrat

    day he was elected in Nov 2008, he and his team have exhibited ZERO comprehension of or interest in the concept of the 50-state strategy. Time and again (beginning with their failure to go into CT and take down the Connecticut for Lieberman party) they hung the rest of the party out to dry.

    Thus: Maine. Michigan. Ohio. Florida. Wisconsin.

    To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

    by UntimelyRippd on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 05:28:17 PM PDT

  •  It's called Resource Allocation (2+ / 0-)
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    Adam B, euphrates

    If it appears to be a winnable race, the President will undoubtedly campaign. If it doesn't appear to be so, he won't.

    Believe it or not, he's not just sitting around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with nothing at all to do, just waiting for someone to call and ask him to campaign.

    And it does the President absolutely no good to campaign for someone who then gets shellacked.

    There isn't a shred of evidence to suggest that campaigning on the President's behalf is going to help Buono make this race competitive. There also isn't a shred of evidence to suggest that if something happened (and that something would have to be a Christie scandal or major gaffe) to make this race competitive, the President would refuse to campaign on behalf of Buono.

    You're being both irrational and petulant.

  •  This is why I don't come to dkos much anymore (1+ / 0-)
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    It's really becoming an anti-Obama site. I can go to red state for that.

  •  going to be the same in 2014 as he was in 2010.:( (0+ / 0-)

    I wait for someone to prove me wrong, but Obama's campaign performance in 2010 was anemic.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 07:08:26 PM PDT

  •  Nonsense. The president was in NJ recently and was (0+ / 0-)

    very well received. So while he may be "dead to you" I doubt you'll have much support.

    PBO campaigning against Christie has been very tricky ever since Sandy. He provided some nice photo ops during an election year and helped push the relief bill though Congress.

    Apart from it being rather awkward and very insincere looking for the president to go railing against someone he was embracing quite recently, Buono meagre prospects make the decision fairly easy.

  •  So wrong! (1+ / 0-)
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    To all the posters who think that Christie can't win the Repub nomination are so wrong! You seriously underestimate how badly Repubs want to win. If Christie wins NJ by more than 5 points, he can legitimately claim to be the only conservative who has proven that he can win over Dems without compromising his core believes. He can point to a conservative record (and he is very conservative!) and you'll see all the money people and power brokers fall in line behind him. Christie is really smart--he has figured out the "soft" underbellies of Dems--that talk like a moderate but govern as a staunch wit, McDonnell in VA, Walker in WI, Kasich in OH, McCrory in NC, Scott in FL, Corbett in PA, and Snyder in MI. It must be nice to be a Repub---you can mistreat people, rob from the poor and give to the rich, bust pensions, rail against "failing" public schools but ignore charter school failures, impose draconian voter restrictions but get folks to actually preventing fraud that doesn't exist, can hype 4 people who belong to the new black panther party silently standing in front of a precinct that is 99% black while ignoring thousands of highly organized white poll challengers who only challenge voters in heavy democratic precincts, deny climate change in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence, decry regulation for business but gladly create regulations that deny women's rights to have control over their own bodies, and on and on. Yet, Dems believe what they say and vote them into office and then become surprised when they do the things that Repubs want. All of those states that I mentioned above have done horribly repressive things despite public protest. It even looks like Scott Walker will easily be reelected in a state that Obama easily won even with the VP of the state on the opposing ticket. Even while there is almost visceral opposition by Repubs to any Dem proposal. Someone show me a state where the governor is a liberal in a red state promoting liberal legislation yet still garnering support from rank and file Repubs and Repub officials against another Repub? That the bizzaro world of Dems....freaking unbelievable!

  •  Obama's a beltway centrist (1+ / 0-)
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    and a fellow of Joe Lieberman. That type adores Christie!

  •  Electoral victory my ass. (1+ / 0-)
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  •  This is the same Barack Obama... (2+ / 0-)
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    UntimelyRippd, betterdemsonly

    ...that threw Barbara Lawton under the bus in favor of Tom Barrett in the 2010 election of Governor of Wisconsin. Barrett went on to lose to right-wing extremist Scott Walker, who has done a lot of damage to Wisconsin since then.

    I'll say this again and again...Barack Obama is directly responsible for Scott Walker being Governor of Wisconsin. That's his legacy right there.

    My parents made me a Democrat. Scott Walker made me a progressive.

    by DownstateDemocrat on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 12:42:58 PM PDT

    •  Oh, God, I didn't even know that. (2+ / 0-)

      I had believed Lawton's original justification, "personal reasons". At the time, there was some speculation that those personal reasons might have related to sexual orientation.

      Now I'm angrier than ever -- as well as saddened. If I had had an hour of Lawton's time, I would have done my damndest to persuade her that she didn't need the assistance or involvement of the Big Men. Hell, in the end they hardly got involved at all. Unlike Barrett, Lawton's progressive bona fides would have helped energize the same voters who put BHO into the White House.


      Damn those fuckers.

      To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

      by UntimelyRippd on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 12:58:44 PM PDT

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    •  BTW, although you've apparently said it again (2+ / 0-)

      and again, I hadn't noticed. As far as I knew, I was the only person who had stated flat out on dKos that I blamed Obama for Walker's reign of terror.

      So, we've got a club of at least two.

      To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

      by UntimelyRippd on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 01:00:16 PM PDT

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