Skip to main content

If you really want to know what the Syrian people have thought about their government, it's actually right on the Internet, even on Daily Kos.  They actually held protests, back in 2011:

On September 9, 2011, "The Friday of International Protection" protest was held nationwide.
On October 28, 2011, they held “Friday of the No-Fly-Zone.”
On December 2, 2011, they held “Friday of Safe Zones.”
These protests were an attempt to get the international community to protect the Syrian people.

The title here comes from the article by the United for a Free Syria (UFS), a group of Syrian Americans that supports overthrowing Assad and establishing a democratic government in the country.  While I personally do not think that we can establish a democracy there, or that we should get seriously involved in the country without international assistance, it is obvious that the Syrian people have been worried about their government for years.  In the letter titled "Letter to the Anti-War Movement from the Syrian American Community", the UFS documents the attacks on the Syrian people by the administration, including 43 air strikes on September 1st alone.  It also documents the protests, actions taken by other Islamic countries to end the Civil War, and Russian interference:

Again in the summer of 2013, the United States attempted to revive the idea of talks with Russia towards pushing both sides to a political solution announcing a Geneva II peace conference between the government and the rebels which never got off the ground, as the Russian regime continued to provide attack planes to the Assad regime, and Hizbollah intervened on the regime’s behalf. Just last month in August 2013, Saudi intelligence chief Bandar bin Sultan offered Russia’s President Vladamir Putin millions of dollars in economic trade and concessions in return for ceasing support of the Assad regime and was rejected.
The chemical attack was not an out of the blue attack against unsuspecting people, it was an escalation of the use of force by the Syrian government against it's people.  We can debate whether the US or the world should respond, but it's actually pretty obvious what the Syrian people think of their government.
Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags


More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    "Harass us, because we really do pay attention. Look at who's on the ballot, and vote for the candidate you agree with the most. The next time, you get better choices." - Barney Frank

    by anonevent on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 07:31:50 PM PDT

  •  If a group of Americans created a non-profit (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    chuckvw, yet another liberal

    and put up a website to advance a certain cause, would it be fair to say they represent "what the American people think"?

    In reality the Syrian people are extremely divided, not just into two sides but multiple sides. This video isn't conclusive either but it gives you a sense of the many different views in Syria:

    •  Yes, the article is by an American group (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Sky Net, eglantine

      but the protests were in Syria, and the actions described in it were in Syria and the surrounding countries.

      "Harass us, because we really do pay attention. Look at who's on the ballot, and vote for the candidate you agree with the most. The next time, you get better choices." - Barney Frank

      by anonevent on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 08:04:28 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Your diary only tells part of the leaked talk (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    between Bandar Bush and Putin. Bandar's proposal was a combination of blackmail and threat. Bandar Bush has been involved in arming and training the Salafist jihadis in Afghanistan in the 1980 under Reagan. He has also been involved in the Iran/Contra affair and who knows what pre and post 9/11. He is the slimiest person in the entire ME.

    Just last month in August 2013, Saudi intelligence chief Bandar bin Sultan offered Russia’s President Vladamir Putin millions of dollars in economic trade and concessions in return for ceasing support of the Assad regime and was rejected.
    That partial report is misleading. There has been more covert interference in the region from the US and the Saudis than the Russians. You forget that Syria and Russia are trading partners and allies.
    Russian President, Saudi Spy Chief Discussed Syria, Egypt

    Bilateral relations

    At the bilateral level, Bandar relayed the Saudi king’s greetings to Putin and the king’s emphasis on the importance of developing the bilateral relationship. He also told Putin that the king would bless any understanding reached during the visit. Bandar also said, however, that “any understanding we reach in this meeting will not only be a Saudi-Russian understanding, but will also be an American-Russian understanding. I have spoken with the Americans before the visit, and they pledged to commit to any understandings that we may reach, especially if we agree on the approach to the Syrian issue.”

    Bandar told Putin, “There are many common values ​​and goals that bring us together, most notably the fight against terrorism and extremism all over the world. Russia, the US, the EU and the Saudis agree on promoting and consolidating international peace and security. The terrorist threat is growing in light of the phenomena spawned by the Arab Spring. We have lost some regimes. And what we got in return were terrorist experiences, as evidenced by the experience of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and the extremist groups in Libya. ... As an example, I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics in the city of Sochi on the Black Sea next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us, and they will not move in the Syrian territory’s direction without coordinating with us. These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role or influence in Syria’s political future.”

    Putin thanked King Abdullah for his greetings and Bandar for his exposition, but then he said to Bandar, “We know that you have supported the Chechen terrorist groups for a decade. And that support, which you have frankly talked about just now, is completely incompatible with the common objectives of fighting global terrorism that you mentioned. We are interested in developing friendly relations according to clear and strong principles.”
    Putin: Our stance on Assad will not change

    Regarding the Syrian issue, the Russian president responded to Bandar, saying, “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters. During the Geneva I Conference, we agreed with the Americans on a package of understandings, and they agreed that the Syrian regime will be part of any settlement. Later on, they decided to renege on Geneva I. In all meetings of Russian and American experts, we reiterated our position. In his upcoming meeting with his American counterpart John Kerry, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov will stress the importance of making every possible effort to rapidly reach a political settlement to the Syrian crisis so as to prevent further bloodshed.”

    •  Thanks so much for posting this information. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      whizdom, Claudius Bombarnac

      I heard a segment at Democracy Now Friday titled Iran Contra Redux? Prince Bandar Heads Secret Saudi-CIA Effort to Aid Syrian Rebels, Topple Assad.  The segment includes an interview with Wall Street Journal reporter, Adam Entous, who did the reporting about Bandar Bush there.

      One of the striking ideas contained in your excerpted material is the idea that the Saudis control the Chechen rebels.  It makes me wonder if we were attacked at the Boston Marathon by Saudi Arabia by proxy?  Did the Saudis think an attack would make Americans bloodthirsty and scared and lead us to support the attacks on Syria as a result?  It worked after Sept. 11 when the Saudi pilots attacked us and led us to consent to the Iraq war.  

      I also looked a little further and found a story at the Guardia about Bandar Bush.  Apparently there was a corruption probe into an arms dealing company involving the Saudi royal family.  Bandar Bush apparently threatened that there would be more terrorist attacks on London if the corruption probe wasn't dropped!  And Tony Blair dropped it!  There was an outcry and I don't know about the final disposition, but I think it is clear that this type of evil dealing is typical of our partner leading the rebels in Syria.  

      In light of all of this, it is impossible to forget AP reporter Dale Gavlak's article titled  Rebels Admit Responsibility for Chemical Attacks.  The rebels said that they were not told that they were CW or how to handle them when they were given to them by PRINCE BANDAR.

  •  Now that you have presented your (0+ / 0-)

    propaganda for whomever it is that you represent.

    Do you feel better?

    And it is not perfectly obvious how the Syrian people feel.

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site