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The right is going to be throwing everything they've got at Obamacare in the next three weeks, using all the scare tactics they've got in their arsenal to derail it by the Oct. 1 launch date for signing up. Here's the latest pack of lies wrapped up in gentle music and an attractive and sympathetic mom from Americans for Prosperity, running in Charlotte, North Carolina, Tampa, Florida, Cleveland, Ohio, and Washington, D.C. It's about Callie, the 12-year-old girl who has had 16 surgeries, including open heart. Her mom is worried they won't be able to keep their same doctors because of evil Obamacare, and says there are just too many unanswered questions about the new law.

Well, that one has been answered. The only reason this family would have to change doctors is if they for some reason change insurance companies by moving, changing jobs, or their employer changing carriers, or whatever. Obamacare will not make people change doctors. Only their employers or their insurance company would make them change doctors. And chances are pretty damned good the doctors in their area don't just accept one kind of insurance. So the likelihood of a child in a case like this not keeping her doctors is pretty slim.

But what's really stupid about the ad is that Callie is more protected than she's ever been because of Obamacare. Because of it, if for some reason her parents do lose their coverage, they can get a new plan that doesn't exclude her because of her pre-existing condition. They also won't have to worry about reaching a cap of what their insurance company will pay to keep covering their daughter, and then losing that coverage. And when Callie becomes an adult, and is no longer on her parents plan, no insurance company can deny her coverage because she's been so sick as a child.

If Callie's mom's brain cells hadn't been so polluted by teabagger lies, Callie's mom might understand all these things, and just how much safer her daughter's future is.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:13 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (38+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:13:07 PM PDT

  •  Americans for Astroturfers (15+ / 0-)
    If Callie's mom's brain cells hadn't been so polluted by teabagger lies, Callie's mom might understand all these things, and just how much safer her daughter's future is.

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013

    by annieli on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:15:27 PM PDT

  •  I'm old (7+ / 0-)

    I saw the headline in the list and thought, "Agence France-Presse"?

    Clap On, Clap Off, The Clapper!

    by ActivistGuy on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:16:02 PM PDT

  •  You should see the anti ObamaCare (7+ / 0-)

    emails that are forwarded and forwarded over and over again.  They're outnumbering the anti-Obama emails I keep getting.

    All disgusting lies, of course, but when I reply back I get the usual "they couldn't say it if it wasn't true" as though there was some kind of Lie Police force out there patrolling and correcting misinformation.

    They need to convince people before folks realize that they like ObamaCare.

    There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

    by Puddytat on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:26:59 PM PDT

    •  I had one distant cousin (5+ / 0-)

      who used to forward all of those to me. He finally either gave up on me, or found something more productive to do with his time. Thankfully.

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

      by Joan McCarter on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 01:47:57 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I am fortunate (4+ / 0-)

      not to be on these types of mailing lists. I'd probably strangle somebody. I loathe super-passionate ignoramuses.

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 05:56:16 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I'm not on those mailing lists (0+ / 0-)

        These are forwarded from friends and family who want me to be "in the know".  Yeah, they believe that you can't write something that isn't true.

        There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

        by Puddytat on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 10:30:31 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Not too worried about the True Believers (3+ / 0-)
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      FloridaSNMOM, Aunt Pat, Brian82

      They will probably be the last to adopt the benefits of Obamacare, because they bought into the lies, and refused to check out anything for themselves, which means the lies really resonated for them, deep in their hearts.

      They're not open to being convinced by anybody right now. So, let them continue to pay higher premiums or remain uninsured, if they won't check it out. You can lead a horse to water....

      The ones that I hope our side will reach are those who are dupes, not True Believers--the kind of people who will look at it and think about whether it might help them, even though they've heard some people claim it is a bad program.

      I hope that many of these people will at least investigate what their options are under Obamacare. Then it is up to them to decide what is best for them and their kids.

    •  You might need to (0+ / 0-)

      Clean up your email list!

  •  I ended up Yelling at my tv over this ad (9+ / 0-)

    This ad is the prime example of completely disrespecting the argument

    I would say that it disrespects the intelligence of the average american voter - but, well ...!? ummmmm .... ahhhhhhh ... I'll just say that it does play on the fundamental ignorance of the electorate and leave it at that!

    "I want to keep them alive long enough that I can win them to Christ," - Rick Warren, Professional Greed Driven Scumbag

    by josephk on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:27:10 PM PDT

  •  when she becomes an adult (5+ / 0-)

    shke can also stay on her parent's plan a few extra years - till 26

    •  Although judging by the lack of (0+ / 0-)

      awareness her mom has, maybe she'd do better researching the options herself . . .

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 11:42:43 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for writing this (26+ / 0-)

    That ad is playing here in Virginia and I couldn't believe it when I saw it because my FIRST thought was -

    16 surgeries and 4 of them open-heart? (I think that's what the ad says). If the Dems hadn't passed Obamacare, your daughter would have hit her lifetime limit for insurance coverage ALREADY and you would be spending the rest of your life and hers holding bake sales, car washes, having collection jars at the 7-11 etc. because NO ONE can afford that kind of care without insurance.

    I always say, before Obamacare, even Superman couldn't afford his care.

    I wish the Dems would run a direct counter ad to this one.

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:31:53 PM PDT

  •  Still trying to kill people to avoid having (12+ / 0-)

    to pay more in taxes.

    The Kochs are such lovely people.

    I'm on a mission! http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1233352/51142428#c520 Testing the new site rules.

    by blue aardvark on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:41:02 PM PDT

  •  Let them (3+ / 0-)
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    1983sedge, FloridaSNMOM, tb mare

    since it's more or less going to be a complete waste of their sponsor's (less than hard earned, but whatever) dollars.

  •  They Started Running a Similar One in the Clevelan (4+ / 0-)
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    ER Doc, FloridaSNMOM, True North, Aunt Pat

    market something like half a year ago. Same lies, but it had a little boy as I recall.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 01:29:57 PM PDT

  •  At what point do they (5+ / 0-)
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    ER Doc, sharman, True North, Aunt Pat, irmaly

    realize few are listening? Is it just unwillingness to admit defeat? Unbelievable that they are spending more money on this - I don't even see anti-Obamacare shit on my Facebook any longer, the pipeline for re-posting every untruth on the internet. Their base (my HS friends!) has moved on.

  •  Classic "Big Lie" Like Nazis & KKK Fighting Racism (2+ / 0-)
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    FloridaSNMOM, artmartin

    Seriously, the Nazis and Klan always claim to be fighting racism. So if you're going to lie, go big.

    And hey, there's Obama again plotting to kill Christian babies, so there we go back to "blood libel" used by anti-Semites.

    The ALEC agenda is eerily like the three legs of the National Socialist reengineering of German civil society:

    1) Crush the unions via the 1933 Enabling Act  to choke off support for the Social Democrats (Right to Work, eh?)
    2) Regulate marriage with the 1935 Nuremberg Laws (DOMA anyone?)
    3) Abolish local governments in 1935

      ....under pressure from the Reich Interior Ministry under the Nazi Wilhelm Frick, a new law abolished all the federated states, from Prussia downwards, along with their governments and parliaments, and merged their Ministries into the corresponding Reich Ministries. Thus the federal constitution which in one form had characterized the German political system for over a thousand years, and was to do so again after 1945, was swept away. Characteristically, however, some elements of federalism remained, so the process of dissolution was incomplete. The Party Regional Leaders retained their position as regional Reich Governors, and continued to occupy powerful positions within the Party hierarchy. They wielded considerable influence over local and regional affairs, though here the Reich Local Government Law of 1935, in abolishing local elections, placed the appointment of mayors largely within the competence of the Interior Ministry in Berlin. This in turn aroused the hostility of the District Leaders (Kreisleiter) of the Party, who often exploited the right of participation accorded them by the law in the appointment of local officials to interfere in local government and place their cronies and clients in offices for which they were often quite unsuited.
        Richard J. Evans, The Third Reich In Power

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 02:28:47 PM PDT

  •  The Unbearable Irony About Americans (6+ / 0-)

    For Prosperity is they and their policies are only concerned about prosperity for the capitalist class.  The working class can wither and die for all they care.

    If I was a communist, rich men would fear me...And the opposite applies. The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

    by stewarjt on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 05:40:38 PM PDT

    •  They never said *whose* prosperity they're for (0+ / 0-)

      ...is it AFP's fault that people assume that AFP is for everyone's prosperity? :)

      Every woman is the boss of what goes into her vagina, and what comes out. Not you, not me, not the GOP.

      by nominalize on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 08:43:18 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  When is this ploy going to be subjected to (2+ / 0-)
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    FloridaSNMOM, True North

    truth in advertising laws?

    If it isn't against the law, it ought to be.

    In the time it took Adam Lanza to reload, eleven children escaped. What if...

    by Sixty Something on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 05:44:04 PM PDT

  •  NC Losing public image war (4+ / 0-)

    This quote from the linked article caught my eye.   A 25% drop in favorability ratings for NC.

    Two years ago, North Carolina was regarded among the 10 most popular states in the country, with 40 percent of voters rating it favorably and only 11 percent having a negative opinion, according to Public Policy Polling, a Democratic leaning firm in Raleigh.

    But a new national poll by the firm has found that the state’s favorable rating has dropped to 30 percent, while those viewing it unfavorably has gone from 11 percent to 23 percent.

    Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/...

    Religion gives men the strength to do what should not be done.

    by bobtmn on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 05:45:20 PM PDT

  •  Catfish them (2+ / 0-)
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    FloridaSNMOM, artmartin

    For those with a tweeter machine, follow them then create a new feed #catfishAmericansforProsperity.
    Catfish is the new term for falsifying oneself.

  •  What I'm concerned about is where's the dad? (6+ / 0-)

    And why does Callie have BROWN hair? Hmm? Is Dad laying on the couch in a pile of Cheerios?

    Sounds like the GOP is hiding something. I smell Satan.

    I'm never sure if I've forgotten and left the lid up, or if InvisObama™ is using the loo.

    by The Gryffin on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 06:03:11 PM PDT

    •  Where's dad? (1+ / 0-)
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      Rube Goldberg

      Dad is working at his very high-paid job that has gold-plated coverage for top executives. That's why they never had problems keeping their child on their policy before 2010 when the law changed. That's my guess.

      Either that, or the ad-makers could afford only the actors who appeared onscreen.

      Perhaps she's one of those super-privileged Americans with excellent coverage through work, fearful that the influx of new insurance customers will mean her child's doctors will not have as much time for her child as they will be caring for other people's children.

  •  They could also have to change doctors if... (4+ / 0-)

    ... their insurance company drops their doctor and the hospital the Dr is affiliated with from their network.

    It has nothing to do with Obamacare and everything to do with greed.

    My employer offers health insurance from one insurer. That insurer and the closest hospital to my house could not come to an agreement on a new contract, so as of July 1st, the hospital was no longer in network. As of November 1st, my primary doctor is no longer in network either.

    Open enrollment is coming up, but I have no choice on which insurance company to sign up with, so...

    If I get sick or injured and they take me to the closest hospital, It'll cost me big time.

    Not to mention the pain in the ass of finding a new doctor that is In-Network.

    I really wish I could go to the exchange, but since I can get health coverage via my employer, I'm SOL

    •  In true emergency network issue different (0+ / 0-)

      I don't have personal experience with this, but my understanding is that in a true emergency (heart attack not sprained ankle), it's possible to appeal the ruling on out-of-network upcharges on the grounds that it was medically essential to take you to the closest hospital. That's certainly true if, for example, you're traveling outside your home area and their network doesn't cover anything in Nebraska or wherever. But I'd try it on even a more local one.

      It is obnoxious that people even need to be worried about this as they're on their way to the ER.

  •  Alice's Restaurant (1+ / 0-)
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    FloridaSNMOM

    I spend a lot of time trying to purge the negative from my life.  then i read an article like this, i look at the ad, and in the words of Arlo Guthrie i wanna kill..!!!!!!  
    it seems like a perfectly reasonable response.   As i really do hate these people.

  •  Has Americans for Prosperity been given ... (0+ / 0-)

    the task of spreading the 'Prosperity Gospel'?


    Someone has to be held responsible for the chain of custody in determining the authenticity of my life. I’m getting a lot of false positives.

    by glb3 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 06:31:31 PM PDT

  •  Bet she has secure workplace insurance (1+ / 0-)
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    nominalize

    I don't think any parent would say this, however sold they are on the teabag message, if they had ever had trouble with their child's insurance coverage. (Unless they're actors.)

    I suspect that she or her husband has first-rate coverage through an employer, and the employee spouse hasn't had any fears about being laid off, so she's not worried about continuing to be insured for as long as necessary.

    And they probably haven't experienced the sobering experience of buying on the private market.

    Many Americans disliked the idea of Obamacare because they had secure workplace insurance--or thought they did--and resented the idea that a lot of other people might want to tie up the doctors' time and other medical resources. Is that what she means? Other people's children might need my child's doctors, making them less accessible for us?

    •  I just thought of something (0+ / 0-)

      related to your point--- the lag between Obamacare getting passed and its full implementation-- 4 years--- is plenty of time for most Americans to lose a job (or two) and have to worry about insurance.  Just to remind those of us who need reminding, just what the bill is trying to help fix.

      Every woman is the boss of what goes into her vagina, and what comes out. Not you, not me, not the GOP.

      by nominalize on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 08:46:00 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Yep, lots of insecurity (0+ / 0-)

        You're right. There has been a lot of job insecurity, with many lost jobs--and millions more fearful that it might happen to them.

        We also heard about laid-off employees who had sick family members. It was suspected that employers let people go if they were running up the costs of insurance coverage. I heard about that; I'd be surprised if a parent of a very sick child wasn't aware of it.

        Even people with jobs were seeing changes for the worse in the coverage offered in the workplace, as companies tried to save money.

        This woman in the ad seems to have not dealt with insurance insecurity along the way of her child's very long-term and serious illness.

        That's what led me to conclude that she was probably one of the most-privileged of insured people: the ones with safe, upper-echelon, jobs with secure and first-rate coverage. Those are not very common.

        If she or her husband serve in the military, they would have Tri-Care, which is secure. Somehow, I don't think so.

        Maybe someone will identify the woman in the commercial, and we'll learn more about why she never worried about loss of insurance coverage.

  •  Americans for Prosperity held a town hall (2+ / 0-)
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    artmartin, True North

    in my town a month ago. Steve King was their hatchet man. Their focus was on attacking Bruce Braley who is running for the open Senate seat being vacated by Tom Harkin.

    King said that when Obamacare was being passed in the House, Nancy Pelosi picked Bruce Braley to make the final argument to sell Obamacare. King then described a far-fetched, unsubstantiated claim about a hypothetical woman who would see a 400% increase in health insurance premiums.
    AFP has an Iowa chapter. They will be continuing their attacks on Braley and other targets of opportunity until November 2014.
  •  Their plan is not to "stop Obamacare," (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    True North

    it's simply to muddy the waters and keep up the steady drumbeat of antigovernmental talk. Even after everyone loves the plan, even the mom in this ad, they'll still be yelling about how unamerican it all is and how people should gladly die rather than be forced to do themselves and their families some good. It's like the incessant climate change denials; it's not about argument, it's about lying and lying and lying and lying until even the liars start to believe the lies.

    I thought I was poor because I owned no shoes; then I met a CEO who owned no Congressman.

    by Mike732 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 06:38:06 PM PDT

  •  We are actually in a similar situation to the ad (2+ / 0-)
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    artmartin, True North

    And people like Callie's mom unfortunately really exist.

    Our youngest child has some special needs requiring specialized health care from an interdisciplinary team.  She has had six or so surgeries and will require a few more before adulthood.  I think ACA is a godsend -- it will make a night and day difference in her life because of this pre-existing condition.

    Nonetheless -- people in our extended family and our circle of friends remain adamantly opposed to ACA -- and project their paranoid fantasies onto anything that goes wrong with her care.   For example -- true story -- the children's hospital where she has been receiving her care for the last 16 years recently decided to shut down that team -- and we and 800 other families have had to scramble to find alternatives.  Several wing nuts of our acquaintance were quick to blame ACA for what happened.  As soon as we start to relate what happened -- "oh it must be Obamacare!"  One acquaintance even went so far as to exclaim "They said there wouldn't be death panels -- well guess what, there are death panels!"  How does one even begin to have a discussion (should one have a discussion?) with the wing nuts who see the ACA to blame for everything that goes wrong with healthcare, regardless of the actual cause?

    •  Discussion? (0+ / 0-)

      You tell them: "You don't have a clue what you're fucking talking about, so your paranoid delusions aren't helping anybody.  When you have nothing to say, say nothing.  Let people think you're a fool instead of proving them right."

      Every woman is the boss of what goes into her vagina, and what comes out. Not you, not me, not the GOP.

      by nominalize on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 08:48:52 PM PDT

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  •  If the DNC has any brain cells (2+ / 0-)
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    irmaly, Brian82

    They will immediately produce and run their own "mom and Callie" commercial answering all of "Mom's" concerns.

  •  "Can't choose you own doctor" (2+ / 0-)
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    True North, nominalize

    That "can't choose your own doctor" line has been one of the favorites of the anti-health reform crowd for decades - it's a real golden oldie.  

    Does anyone ever think this through?  It sure doesn't seem so, since they can get away with using ads like this as scare tactics.  

    Here is a recent diary I wrote on this subject:

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    •  To answer your question: No. (0+ / 0-)

      People don't think it through, because they're running on emotion.  Fear, in this case.  

      The idea is: Mention something people are afraid of.  Those who are really afraid will do something I call "modal inflation"--- in their paranoia, they will take something that is logically possible but realistically implausible, and inflate its (modal) possibility into a certainty. In doing so, they convince themselves that it's really happening or just about to.

      That is, their fear inflates a "may be" into a "must be".  With these people, all it takes is the mere mention of what they're afraid of, and their psychology will do the rest.  This works with Obamacare-haters, it works with the gun crowd [fear: the gov't will come for their guns], it works with the anti-drug crowd, it works with the anti-vaccine crowd, any conspiracy theorist and their conspiracy, and so on.  

      Crucially, this isn't a question of intelligence (or lack thereof).  It's a question of fear overwhelming our reasoning capacities.  A natural trait of the human mind.

      Every woman is the boss of what goes into her vagina, and what comes out. Not you, not me, not the GOP.

      by nominalize on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 08:54:57 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Truth is: you already can't choose much (1+ / 0-)
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      Brian82

      because of how few primary care docs are accepting new patients, in many areas. My doctor moved away, and I really didn't have a lot of choice of who to move to.

      And then there are the in-network/out-of-network issues. And transportation (which office is on a bus line I can access?). And office hours (who has evening and weekend hours so I don't have to take time off from work for the kids' checkups?).

      So "choose your own doctor" is a nice myth, with a small amount of truth in it, but it's a myth that fits some sort of idealized capitalist consumerist model.

  •  Here's the key: she will not be denied! (0+ / 0-)

    No matter what! Conservatives may play as much as the want on "we don't know", but we know this much: she will not be denied...no matter what!

    Gino insurance companies love this and won't fight back with bs???

  •  Obama is a black man, so he either wants to.... (0+ / 0-)

    ...rape or kill the cute little white girl.

    It must be true, I heard it on right-wing screech radio.

  •  Who is she? (0+ / 0-)

    A progressive blog needs to get in touch with her and ask
    exactly what her concerns are and answer them. If she bails out
    she needs to be exposed. Some progressive has to know who she is.
    She has made her family public so its time to expose her.

  •  The biggest problem I see (0+ / 0-)

    including in occasional comments on this site, is that all the publicity about the October 1 start date has led some people to believe that they can actually get coverage that starts October 1 -- and will be disappointed and angry when they discover that although you can sign up starting October 1, the coverage won't actually kick in for another three months.

    When you're uninsured and have health issues, three months is a very long time to wait.

    So no, GOP, it's not that people won't want the new coverage. It's that we want and need it earlier than the law provides for.

  •  One reason Callie's mom is uninformed in Cleveland (2+ / 0-)

    is that the republican domnated lege and the Lt Gov (head of insurance in Ohio) has prevented any meaningful help or information about ACA from any state agency.

    Tea Baggers Unite and follow that lemming.

    by OHdog on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 05:01:55 AM PDT

  •  There's a good website to answer those "questions" (1+ / 0-)
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    Brian82

    AARP (yes, I'm old enough to be a member) set up a web tool at www.healthlawanswers.org (actually healthlawanswers.aarp.org but the first one works). You don't have to be retired to use it. Put in your age, income level, etc. etc. and it answers the common questions - including the disingenuous ones in the ad.

    Based on what I guessed about poor clueless Callie (middle income, family of three, insurance through work, etc) it gives these responses:

    You Have More Consumer Protections

    Your health plan can’t put annual or lifetime dollar limits on how much it will pay for most of your medical bills.
    Your health plan can’t deny you coverage because of health problems you had before your insurance started (known as pre-existing conditions).
    Your Coverage Goes Further

    You can keep your children on your family plan until they reach age 26—even if they don’t live at home, are married or attend school.
    Your plan must spend at least 80 cents of every dollar on health care rather than on administrative costs (costs that are not related to your care).
    There are limits on what your plan can make you pay toward your deductible, coinsurance and copayments.
    You Have Better Access to Care

     Your plan covers more preventive care. For example, health screenings and tests for breast and cervical cancer, diabetes and heart disease are now covered if they are recommended for you. See the full list of preventive services.
     You can seek care from an obstetrical or gynecological (OB-GYN) specialist who is part of your plan without a referral from your primary care provider
    It is important to know that not all of these changes will apply to all health plans right away or for some coverage for retirees. Be sure to check with your human resources department to learn more about your health plan

    .

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