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There's one more of Rump Speaker Ted Cruz's brilliant ideas down the drain. Cruz told the House Republicans that should pass government funding bills one piece at a time, everything but Obamacare (which is already funded and not shutting down, but they're not geniuses, so....). Last week they thought that idea was absolutely stupid, but since they've failed with every other effort so far, they decided to give it a try. They offered the bills under a suspension of the rules, which means they had to get a two-thirds vote in order to pass.

They failed, on the veterans bill 264-164, on D.C. operations 265-163, and on parks 252-176.

House Republicans picked as the winners in their mini funding spree veterans benefits (at a much, much lower level than in the budget they passed earlier this year), the National Parks/Smithsonian, and operations for the District of Columbia. But they didn't offer these bills through regular order—probably to avoid a chance of Democrats offering up the clean CR from the Senate. Under regular order, Democrats would have offered a motion to recommit the bill that would substitute the Senate's clean continuing resolution (which has the votes to pass). It's also possible Republicans just wanted more theater and this is an opportunity to blame Democrats for the shutdown.

Democrats didn't fall for it on any of the three votes. So what is Speaker Cruz going to come up with next?

Join Daily Kos and the DCCC to tell John Boehner: End this shutdown now.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:03 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (48+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:03:02 PM PDT

  •  Carnival Cruz's thousand teabagger cuts (9+ / 0-)
    death by a thousand cuts was a form of torture and execution used in China from roughly AD 900 until it was banned in 1905. In this form of execution, the condemned person was killed by using a knife to methodically remove portions of the body over an extended period of time. The term língchí derives from a classical description of ascending a mountain slowly. Lingchi was reserved for crimes viewed as especially severe, such as treason and killing one's parents.

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013

    by annieli on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:06:32 PM PDT

  •  walnuts !!! (2+ / 0-)
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    @Hugh: There is no Article II power which says the Executive can violate the Constitution. * Addington's perpwalk? TRAILHEAD of accountability for Bush-2 Crimes.

    by greenbird on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:16:00 PM PDT

  •  Actually a lot of Dems voted for these... (10+ / 0-)

    Dems just didn't give them 2/3rds veto override majorities as Pres Obama said he'd veto them.  

    Glenn Greenwald promotes far-right fringe extremist group The Oath Keepers -

    by Jacoby Jonze on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:18:54 PM PDT

  •  Dems just have to stick to the facts (4+ / 0-)
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    TomP, a2nite, chloris creator, mwm341

    They handled this great. They said we want the whole gov. open not just parts so republicans need to pass a clean cr. Republicans obviously don't want that and the public understands this. I think Obama should have held up the military pay since they vote republican,but I can be a little mean at times. I just think they would cave quick if their voting block wasn't getting a check.

  •  Was 2/3rds necessary because of (3+ / 0-)
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    dougymi, librarisingnsf, mwm341

    An assumed Presidential veto?  Or, was there a procedural reason?  Does Reid have to consider this?  Either way, it's good news that this gambit has fallen by the wayside.

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    by khyber900 on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:28:42 PM PDT

  •  Did Boehner take his hand off the gavel ... (12+ / 0-)

    and SENATOR Ted Cruz grabbed it!

    Pretty shallow bunch of Republicans in the House to allow a Senator to dictate how they should conduct their business.
    And, as it appears they are doing just that.

    They're all lemmings.  One of them is my TParty Republican Congressman, Tim Griffin (R-AR 2nd) has four statements on his website which I replied to tonight (my replies between the arrows):

    Griffin Working to Reach Agreement and Open Government
    >>Simple. Obamacare is constitutional law. Approve the CR with no conditions.<<

    Griffin: ‘Shutting Down the Federal Government Is Terrible Policy’
    >>You had to have known that before YOU DID IT. Now that you committed a seditious act against the government of the United States, you DO NOT WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for your actions<<

    Griffin: House Plan Keeps Government Open and Overturns President’s Special Obamacare Subsidies for Members of Congress and Senators
    >>I REPEAT, Obamacare is constitutionally approved law.  To keep government open, approve the CR without conditions.<<

    Griffin Urges President Obama to ‘Immediately’ Sign Bill Ensuring Military Pay

    >>Last night before the shutdown you helped to create took place, the President signed the law. How come you don't know that today?<<

    Closing thoughts I left with Congressman Griffin:

    On H RES 368 you voted YEA on the most recent CR WITH conditions, as you have done with all the CRs sent to the Senate.

    YES, you are at fault on refusing to honor the law of the land.

    YES, you are guilty of committing seditious acts against YOUR government to undermine its ability to operate effectively.

    YES, I expect an apology from you.

    *Austerity is the opposite of Prosperity*

    by josmndsn on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:29:32 PM PDT

  •  I don't have any graphics ability...if I did... (3+ / 0-)
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    josmndsn, AmazingBlaise, Jasonhouse

    ...the anarchist's symbol is an O with an A in side.

    I'd like to create a G (A) P.  

    I think it would fit then don't you think.

    The highest form of spiritual practice is self observation with compassion.

    by NCJim on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:34:45 PM PDT

    •  They're not true anarchists... (3+ / 0-)
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      rubyr, a2nite, ZhenRen

      Some time ago, I used anarchists to imply behavior similar to an anarchist.  Another member of the forum explained that anarchists want to abolish government because they do not want to be lead.  Anarchists have no leaders.

      The House Republicans appear to want to have leadership by allowing Cruz to fill the void of the hollow orange man.  They just don't like the leader, Obama, we elected over their leader they wanted, Romney.  

      So, they're not anarchists but are certainly seditionists, causing disruption, rebellion

      Their seditious acts consist of non-participation in the government. Avoiding any semblance of assisting or furthering any good the government might do.

      AND, of course, shutting down the government.

      So, the logo you seek should center around 'sedition'. I found one on the cover a book by Thomas Abrahams that seems appropriate:

      *Austerity is the opposite of Prosperity*

      by josmndsn on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 06:11:45 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  House resolution (4+ / 0-)
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      josmndsn, rubyr, Boy Howdy, NCJim

    •  Anarchism is not right wing (0+ / 0-)

      Here is a description of anarchism:

      Anarchism isn't simply being "against government" but rather against unjust authority, including central government, hierarchy, oligarchy, an owner class, etc. It is therefore against all forms of systemic inequality, oppression and exploitation, including wage labor, racism, patriarchy, capitalism, homophobia, corporate command structure, etc.

      Anarchists are thus anti-capitalist, since capitalism is based on an owner class which controls and exploits a working class.

      Tea Partiers and Republicans are against government only to the extent that it supports the working class and regulates the owner class. They support capitalism completely, and thus they support oligarchy and they support the owner class, and they support property rights, which includes state enforcement of private property rights (police), and they support the exploitation of wage labor.

      Anarchists would replace the state with federations of egalitarian participatory communities on local, regional, national and international levels, would abolish private ownership of the means of production, and all "government" would be bottom up, and horizontal in organization.

      The first person to use the term anarchism or anarchist was Proudhon, who coined the term back in 1840. Proudhon was anti-capitalist, and wanted to replace the central state authority with federations of collectives on local, regional, national and international levels.  Since he coined the term, his definition of it, along with other anarchist thinkers he influenced, like Bakunin, Kropotkin, and others, is widely referenced as the classic definition of anarchism.

      An = without, and archo = authority, ruler. Anarcho thus means without authority, without ruler.

      Since the right wing supports and asserts the authority of private property (private property “rights”), and supports enforcement of those rights over others, including authority of the employer (who owns the means of production) over the propertyless working class (a construct completely dependent on the notion that historically public lands and resources can be privately taken and dominated by individuals, using power of physical force, the church, lords and monarchs, and the authority of the state), they can’t logically claim to support a social system of management that is “without authority”.

      Capitalism is completely dependent on the faux authority of private property ownership. And capitalism needs police power of the state to enforce and protect the assets of the owner class. Capitalism and authority go hand in hand. Capitalism can’t exist without authority over the working class.

      So, no, right wing tea party propertarians are not anarchists. The notion is ludicrous, and is an insult to the tradition of anarchism. The only people who use this term in such an illogical and misinformed manner are those who have no knowledge of anarchism and/or arrogantly want to impose their definitions on the term.

      And to do so is to support an Orwellian spin of the term, to make it seem as if capitalism supports the liberty and equality that is part of traditional anarchist philosophy. Using the right wing distorted definition is basically helping the right wing to fool people with this  propagandistic  attempt to make themselves seem to be in support of freedom, when “anarcho-capitalism” really only provides "liberty" to the wealthy class, and not to the majority, who are working class.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 01:15:21 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The longer this will go on - (2+ / 0-)
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    GrindtheHills, drmah

    the more the people - the federal workers lose.

    Fuck these politicians - all of them - get to work and figure this shit out and do your job that you will get paid for during your shutdown.

    The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

    by ctexrep on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:34:47 PM PDT

  •  I'm reading the next move will be... (6+ / 0-)

    to pass a rule tomorrow to let them pass these by simple majority.

    At which point they will either be rejected by the Senate or vetoed by the President.

    We're in for a long bumpy ride, folks.

    Cake or DEATH? Oh, I'll have cake, please.

    by wmtriallawyer on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:35:08 PM PDT

  •  ENOUGH OF THIS (2+ / 0-)
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    librarisingnsf, Magnifico

    Seriously, GOP.  Just stop this.  You've lost the debate, you've lost the public, you've LOST.  ENOUGH.

    Be sure you put your feet in the right place; then stand firm. ~ Abraham Lincoln

    by noweasels on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:36:11 PM PDT

  •  Concerned (0+ / 0-)

    they may have a way to bring it up under a new rule permitting passage w/ 50% and no amendments.  Some CNN report was tweeting something that suggested this, I think.  Anyone have a clue?  Can they change the rules in midstream (I kind of thought the rules committee might be able to do that).

  •  Uh, why did any Democrats vote for this? (2+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun, on the cusp

    The first vote got 62%, not a comfortable margin from 2/3rds IMHO.  

    Why isn't Pelosi standing fast like Reid?

  •  A new plan by Cruz ... (8+ / 0-)

    "okay fellas, this time, instead of saying delay obamacare for one year, say delay obamacare for 12 months"

  •  On to plan C....collect underpants, profit. (2+ / 0-)
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    GrindtheHills, a2nite

    They are just throwing shit at the fridge now. And yet, Michelle Bachmann will just "happen to be there" when it splatters, just in time to shake her head and blame dems.

  •  Democrats are playing hardball (4+ / 0-)

    and the country will thank them in the end.

    “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.” – - Thomas Jefferson, 1791

    by Senor Frog on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:41:26 PM PDT

  •  Re-read the diary (0+ / 0-)

    It looks like Boehmer was either afraid that his party might get tagged with voting against a full Clean CR, or that it would pass.  Alternatively,  he may have been trying to throw the tea party a bone in order to keep this shutdown charade going a little bit longer, bit without having to send this to the Senate.

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    by khyber900 on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:42:17 PM PDT

  •  gop assholes and losers (1+ / 0-)
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    what a sorry excuse they are for so called leadership.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Riane Eisler

    by noofsh on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:43:48 PM PDT

  •  Geez, already? (0+ / 0-)

    I thought Plan 5 would at least go til tomorrow.  On to Plan 6!

  •  Not Worried (1+ / 0-)
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    Paralimentary sheenanigans, pffft!  Simple majority?  PFFFT!  The only thing that flys is a clean CR.  Anything else gets vetoed and needs 2/3rds.  I think the President has had it with the ridiculous games.  

    Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. ~ Frank Zappa ~

    by NCTim on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:17 PM PDT

  •  I know this is off topic (0+ / 0-)

    But my curiosity is killing me.  Does anyone know why Senator Kelly Ayotte is invariably seen standing behind John Boehner whenever he is talking into a microphone?

  •  What? Every bill congress votes isn't a clean.. (0+ / 0-)

    single issue bill with no amendments?
    Thats the ignorance of not being able to vote brings. ;) snark.

    The truth is I have only voted once in my entire 54 years.
    It was when I lived in England. I think I was 18. Voted Labor mainly just to piss my dad off!!  It worked too!!

    "Love is what we were born with. Fear is what we learned here." Marianne Williamson

    by Canadian Green Card Alien on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:48:47 PM PDT

  •  My daughter (2+ / 0-)
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    jeff in nyc, Naniboujou

    is on shutdown. She is a mechanical engineer who works as a federal contractor for NHTSA.  She got the stop work order today.  No one seems to be talking about the thousands of contractors that the Rethugs are screwing as well.  Teabaggers are all a bunch of assholes and I hope everyone remembers this in 2014!  I fear that it is going to be far worse come Oct 17th.  I hope I am wrong.

  •  Negotiate like they do... (1+ / 0-)
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    Dr Erich Bloodaxe RN

    Submit the CR with pre sequester levels.  Or make it longer.  Go for the trifecta, and add a debt limit bump.  Next round change the bump to debt limit repeal...

    This planet needs a lot more kids who think taking a lawnmower apart is more fun than playing a videogame.

    by rjnerd on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:53:02 PM PDT

  •  The 'Crazytown Cruzader' (1+ / 0-)
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    has become a one man branch of government; the executive branch, the judicial branch, and Ted's excellent adventure branch.

    My life is in total anarchy. I have no respect for my own authoritarianism. - UID 16382

    by glb3 on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:54:18 PM PDT

    •  wow, and I thought Cheney was (0+ / 0-)

      monomaniacal. The Carnival Cruz has him beaten 6 ways to Sunday.

      How is taking a hundred dollars worth of food from hungry kids or from old poor sick people equal to taking a hundred dollars from billionaires? -- howabout, 19 Dec 2012

      by billlaurelMD on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 06:10:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Good. Given past behaviour, I wasn't at all sure (3+ / 0-)
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    kat68, Linda S, LordMike

    that Dems would be smart enough to avoid giving the Tea Party the power of 'line item veto' over the budget by being willing to sign on to such mini bills that are for very popular things.

    Our elected officials are finally learning to stand tough and play hardball.

  •  Speaker of the House doesn't have to be a Rep. (1+ / 0-)
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    So you could be right -- Boehner is an orange figurehead.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 05:55:06 PM PDT

  •  Someone should take the Dems who vote for this (0+ / 0-)

    to the woodshed.

    There will be hell to pay for betraying the public trust.

  •  That photoshopped pic is almost as funny as the (0+ / 0-)

    link to the petition to Boehner. Does anybody really think that the DCCC and Daily Kos is going to influence anything he does?

    If there is no accountability for those who authorized torture, we can no longer say that we are a nation of laws, not men.

    by MikePhoenix on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 06:02:56 PM PDT

  •  Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed? (0+ / 0-)

    He arrogates to himself and his Party the right to decide what of government is discarded and what is saved?

  •  House dems (0+ / 0-)

    should help pass these piecemeals, and then senate should put rest of the items back in the budget and approve it and send it back to house.

  •  Ted Cruz can be Speaker of the House?! (0+ / 0-)

    The Constitution states that:

    "The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

    Although the Speaker has always been a member of the House, he or she doesn't have to be.

    Although highly unlikely, Ted Cruz can be elected Speaker.

    An interesting question- could he keep his seat in the Senate if so elected?

    Counting stars by candlelight...

    by frasca on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 06:15:23 PM PDT

  •  'Rump Speaker Ted Cruz' (2+ / 0-)
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    drmah, a2nite

    I like that.

    Love or hate the President all you want -- but we have GOT to retake the House and hold the Senate in 2014!

    by mwm341 on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 06:26:46 PM PDT

  •  Rep. Louise Slaughter (4+ / 0-)
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    ...on Maddow just now said there's no way that the GOP is going to relent and we should disabuse ourselves of the notion that they are being controlled by a radical minority. "They vote unanimously."

    She said that tomorrow they will put forth a rule where they only need a majority to get the piecemeal bills through.

  •  The only ..... (0+ / 0-) that will benefit from this will be the credit card corporations and loansharks. I hope this is the furthest the pendulum will swing for the right, that this will be the high water mark (thanks Hunter) of rightwing chicanery.
    If not I fear what could possibly out do this insanity.

    “I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.” ― Edgar Allan Poe

    by Spacetrucker on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 06:36:38 PM PDT

  •  Let's not lose sight of the fact that (3+ / 0-)
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    the real reason for the shutdown is Republicans would not allow a budget to be passed before October 1. In the House and Senate they would not allow the budgets to go to conference.

    THEY created the need for continuing resolutions; not out of spite, but by design.

    They WANTED this to go to a shutdown because they thought they could bully Reid and the President to cave.

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