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Happy to announce @GOP offering to pay to keep WWII memorial that WH barricaded open for 30 days.

While Reince Priebus holds press conferences announcing that the party will spring for guards to keep one of America's monuments open, local effects of the House Republican shutdown are beginning to be felt.

Head Start, domestic violence shelters, and other critical services are being impacted:

Advocates warned that domestic violence shelters in Montana and Vermont were no longer being reimbursed for their services, and said some shelters could be forced to close altogether. Scientific research across the country — into a type of meningitis in Hawaii; of water quality in Tarpon Bay, Fla. — came to a halt because scientists could not get into their own labs. […]

According to organizers, at least 23 [Head Start] programs in 11 states are now without funding. In Calhoun County, Ala., where a quarter of the residents younger than 18 live below the poverty line, hundreds of poor children were told that their preschools were closed. In tiny Hobson City, volunteers scrambled to take in children at a church instead.

The Emergency Food Assistance Program is under shutdown. It provides about a substantial portion of the food provided to private food banks.
Food banks across the country are bracing for the suspension of the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s food assistance programs, which have become increasingly important to feed the needy.

As private donations dried up during the recession, the USDA’s Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP) and Commodity Assistance Programs have helped charities and non-profits keep their inventories stocked. The USDA warned Monday that federal funds will halt until Congress strikes a deal, leaving food banks wondering if they should start planning for food shortages.

More examples of the impact the shutdown is having below the fold.

"Non-essential" workers at Fort Lee, in Virginia got their furlough notices Tuesday:

For Gauvin, the shutdown comes just six weeks after the end of the summer furlough caused by sequestration during which she lost six days of pay. […]

“We now can go for about two months, going through our savings,” Gauvin said. “But we are looking at what kind of lifestyle changes we need to make to keep our children in day care.”

E-verify, the government program that allows business owners to verify prospective employee's employment eligibility, has been shuttered:
Leyli Jahangiri, Owner of La Bottega on the Bay in Downtown Miami, said “What it does is it doesn’t allow me to checkout a potential employee’s background so how can I verify? It kinda slows things down in the order of processing of hiring a person.”
Sorry, hunters and other recreation-seekers:
According to the Fish and Wildlife Service contingency plan all activities are closed on federal lands including hunting and fishing as well as using trails and parking areas until the government closes. In addition, all public buildings are closed including visitor centers.
The shutdown of the Women, Infant and Children program (WIC) leaves Washington state clinics with only nine more days of funding.
Due to the federal government shutdown the Washington State Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC) has funds for about nine (9) days of operations. We do not anticipate closure of WIC clinics or retail stores refusing WIC checks during the nine days of operational funding. We will continue to provide updates if the government shutdown continues.
In San Diego and elsewhere, the IRS may not be doing audits, but they're also not able to clear tax liens on purchased properties, fouling the real estate market. And while servicemen may get their pay, that doesn't mean there will be no impact on those soldiers:
[National Treasury Employees Union President Malcom Gettman] lived through the 1995 government shutdown and said the tone from Congressional leaders is entirely different this time around.

“They simply don’t like the President of the United States and they’re going to take it out on anyone and everyone,” Gettman said. […]

Delays in decisions from the Pentagon and Congress needed in the next few days could delay products getting to military  personnel in the field.

“If that money is not made available and we can’t get do our work here then the Navy suffers,” said SPAWAR Employee John Metzger.

“Ships can’t operate, aircraft can’t communicate. If the shutdown happens, that will be impacted,” Metzger said.

Many federal workers, who have already suffered through summer furloughs caused by sequestration, will not able to absorb lost wages indefinitely—or even for very long:
A nurse who works at the John F. Kennedy Federal Building in downtown Boston, who asked that her name not be used, said the waiting game to learn whether she will have a job was nerve-wracking.

“It is, because you live paycheck to paycheck,” she said, adding that one worker who was sent home earlier in the day was stunned and said, “I feel lost.”

No dozen or so contrived, patchwork bills will patch all the damage already being done. For every episode of mock refunding undertaken in the embarrassed House, there are a hundred other priorities being ignored and tens of thousands of jobs impacted. There's no way to turn the shutdown of the entire federal government into anything less than a train wreck.

Originally posted to Hunter on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 02:41 PM PDT.

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  •  There's going to be lots of pain and costs from (32+ / 0-)

    this shut down. I heard on NPR that if the shut down continues for a month the impact on the economy will match hurricanes Katrina and Sandy combined. Way to go, GOP! You'll make a man-made disaster larger than any natural disaster! You should be proud of yourselves!

    Spite is the ranch dressing Republicans slather on their salad of racism

    by ontheleftcoast on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 02:45:32 PM PDT

    •  The "Owners" are not going to put up with this... (9+ / 0-)

      ...for very long. They will tolerate short disruption, but I don't think they have some consensus on a limit. A week? Two?

      Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 02:58:58 PM PDT

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      •  Two weeks (7+ / 0-)

        will have us up against the debt ceiling fight.

        "I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat."--Will Rogers

        by vgranucci on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:02:25 PM PDT

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      •  In other times, say the 90's, I'd be inclined to (10+ / 0-)

        agree with your assessment but the Koch's and their ilk have unleashed something the didn't fully understand. For some bizarre reason I found myself re-watching the recent Batman films. The second one with the Joker has a scene where Alfred, referring to the Joker, tells Bruce "and in their desperation they turned to a man they didn't understand and couldn't control" That's what the Tea Party is like -- the Koch's and other oligarchs were so afraid of any change to the status quo they reached into their bag of racist jargon and pulled anything that had a pulse out and ran it. And now they can't control it. Some of these assclowns are in districts with numbers like R+20 and higher. They have nothing to fear from the owners and they know it.

        Spite is the ranch dressing Republicans slather on their salad of racism

        by ontheleftcoast on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:06:30 PM PDT

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        •  the Koch brothers are in total control (4+ / 0-)
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          ontheleftcoast, elwior, a2nite, savannah43

          All they have to do is call the teabaggers into their office and say, listen, you either come to heel, or you don't get another dime from me and all my money will go to your primary opponent. That's not your Congressional seat, it's mine. I put you in it and I can take you out of it. Got it?

          That will sober up even the most deranged Republican nihilist. Crazed they may be, but they do have a sense of self-preservation.

          The Kochs are crazy too, but they don't want a default because it would be bad for business, and they won't allow a default.

          At some point they might well make a mistake and back a megalomaniacal demagogue they can't control (probably for president). But we don't yet appear to have a budding Hitler among the teabagger ranks, just pliable corporate dupes.

          "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

          by limpidglass on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:29:31 PM PDT

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          •  I hope you're right, I really do (2+ / 0-)
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            But I'm not so sure. There are some seriously unhinged whack-a-doodles in this Congress and I really don't think they care about re-election as much as they care about being seen as the second coming of Ronald Reagan.

            Spite is the ranch dressing Republicans slather on their salad of racism

            by ontheleftcoast on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:39:48 PM PDT

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          •  The Kochroaches are evil; they don't care (3+ / 0-)
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            nosotros no somos estúpidos

            by a2nite on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:03:07 PM PDT

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          •  I'd like to hope you're right (2+ / 0-)
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            savannah43, a2nite

            But I'd like to remind you that the sequester was designed to be so god awful even the republicans would never allow that to happen.  Many of the GOP liars also said, "shutting down the government isn't something anyone wants to do."
            Now we have Teajadiis running around telling everyone that defaulting on the debt won't be so bad.  
            Anyone that thinks the GOP wouldn't gleefully default on our debt is not at all familiar with today's GOP. Those people are dangerous, ignorant extremists that really aren't so very different from other enemies of America in their overt desire to harm the country. They will blow up the country if their demands are not met. Just like other extremists.

            +++ The law is a weapon used to bludgeon us peasants into submission. It is not to be applied to the monied elite.

            by cybersaur on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:05:22 PM PDT

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        •  check out this: (1+ / 0-)
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          Koch's daddy co-founded Birch Society so it would not surprise me if these 2 brothers' ultimate goal is the complete transformation of the form of government we have and the chaos that is currently being created is necessary to spur such radical changes

      •  in 2011, they went right up until a couple days (1+ / 0-)
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        before the debt limit deadline before announcing their "compromise." They're going to go right up to the brink again, just to scare the shit out of everyone and give the Dems a plausible excuse to back down. An effective threat has to be credible and to be credible, they have to go as far as they can without actually going over the edge.

        Two weeks of Wall Street flacks screaming about the perils of default isn't going to bother the Republicans one bit, but it will soften up the Democrats and allow them to justify their gutlessness by saying "We caved for the good of the country and the world!"

        The Democrats are going to give in to the terrorists, all right. They're going to negotiate and then say that because they didn't agree to cut the ACA, that they didn't really negotiate at all.

        "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

        by limpidglass on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:19:58 PM PDT

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      •  There seems to be radical and conservative owners (3+ / 0-)
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        One group wants it all and wants it now -- perhaps wanting to move now that the peons know about what the NSA has been up to, perhaps feeling that everything is in place to secure their interests from any upstart populism.  And one group wants to play it cool and incrementally roll out their plans so people won't notice their shackles once they're locked on.

        Obama: self-described Republican; backed up by right-wing policies

        by The Dead Man on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:26:14 PM PDT

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      •  Oct 17 is the litmus test (1+ / 0-)
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        the TP is betting on blocking raising the debt ceiling so the US defaults on its obligations.  While they are dancing in the streets, if this happens, look for some sort of drastic action by the administration to rein in this 20 or 30 hard core TPers who have seemingly hijacked the GOP (actually this is part of a plan by the GOP to crash the government.  Look up the Williamsburg Accords the Kochs and others have dreamed up for the country

        •  I think it's going to be sooner than the 17th (0+ / 0-)

          It's not like this shutdown is "saving" any money. I'm guessing we've "lost" a couple of days at least.

          Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. --Martin Luther King Jr.

          by Egalitare on Thu Oct 03, 2013 at 01:22:32 AM PDT

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    •  That's the point. Break the country. (4+ / 0-)
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      Drive it into the ground, where the wealthy will pick up even more of the pieces at firesale prices.  This has been going on for years, boom and bust with only one group coming out on top.  And since you can't control natural disasters, why not create your own.  The precident was set when the democrats caved every time to republican demands for every budget fight.  And they're going all in.

      Obama: self-described Republican; backed up by right-wing policies

      by The Dead Man on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:18:15 PM PDT

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    •  They are proud of themselves because this is (2+ / 0-)
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      ontheleftcoast, HCKAD

      Why they were selected.

      nosotros no somos estúpidos

      by a2nite on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:04:53 PM PDT

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    •  Just because the sky didn't fall yesterday (1+ / 0-)
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      everything will be fine with eliminating these government programs and jobs.  Seems to be a prevalent wingnut assessment after one day.   Same perspective as the company that considers a strategic plan to be next quarter's numbers.  No long term view.

      There are more pressing priorities, but my daughter was furloughed from her part time USDA job yesterday.  She is a plant pathologist and grad student at UC Davis working on a new and dangerous virus affecting orange trees.  Stopped for now.  I feel bad for her USDA colleagues for whom their career (not limited to plant pathology and orange trees) is a full time job supporting families.

  •  While I know several people that are (16+ / 0-)

    Working for free right now, my FBI agent neighbor is already furloughed two days a month due to the sequester.  This is only making a shitty situation worse for him and his family.  My mom and I were talking yesterday and I think that a hard shutdown where EVERYTHING stops would paint a much clearer picture for people what the federal government does.  Right now, most of the people affected are people they don't care about.  Stop Medicare for ONE DAY, stop border patrol for ONE DAY, stop all military funding for ONE DAY and they would vote on the CR in minutes.  
    I don't want a government shutdown, but this one has been engineered to only hurt some of the government.

    We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams. - Peter S. Beagle

    by jk2003 on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 02:58:03 PM PDT

    •  I was thinking that too when I watched Jon (11+ / 0-)

      Stewart last night. He had a clip of the Fox douche team all saying how this is nothing, it doesn't even affect me...

      I thought Hannity would notice when the airports shut down because there is no TSA or air traffic control. He may "psychologically" take it in if a hurricane was headed his way and the National Weather Service couldn't track it. And the National Guard couldn't rescue him.

      Maybe they'd notice the effects of a complete shutdown when starving moms and their babies go begging down on Wall Street.

      But right now, there are a number of agencies that operate, giving a lot of people the luxury of kicking back and saying "who needs government? I didn't want to go to a National Park today anyway..." Shutting down "non-essential" government feeds into their argument that government is unnecessary. Shut down EVERYTHING and, like you said, it wouldn't last a day...

      First the thing is impossible, then improbable, then unsatisfactorily achieved, then quietly improved, until one day it is actual and uncontroversial. ... It starts off impossible and it ends up done. - Adam Gopnik

      by theKgirls on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:15:45 PM PDT

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    •  More importantly (8+ / 0-)

      Shut the airports, sea ports, and land ports. It'll be over almost instantly.

      "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

      by Hayate Yagami on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:20:05 PM PDT

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    •  One of my co-workers this morning... (2+ / 0-)
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      was freaking out because his wife just got furloughed yesterday (she works for the IRS) and he was about to withdraw from his retirement (which would open him to large penalties). I believe he can borrow instead and pay it back later (which would be a much better option). We tried to talk him out of it, but he (and myself) may well be furloughed sometime week, so his panic is understandable.

      We aren't government employees, but we are funded by the National Science Foundation, and our employer, who was hired to run our facility, can't go much past this week without an income stream. We'll get some sort of email tomorrow or Friday from our director to see what our fate will be.

      •  I'm so sorry (1+ / 0-)
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        My background is in science too and I am horrified at the funding issues with the NSF and the CDC and the NIH and all the others.  This is why I said a hard shutdown may be a better thing overall.  The rubes don't think about the NSF as something that matters.  But airports, ports, border control, military, Medicare. Those are the things that get attention.
        I hope this resolves quickly for you and all you coworkers.

        We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams. - Peter S. Beagle

        by jk2003 on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:22:08 PM PDT

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      •  first thing to do is to not panic (0+ / 0-)

        The old rule of thumb used to be to have 1 year's living expenses in savings though it has been pared down to 3 months (most Americans have less than 2weeks saved except for what is in 401Ks and IRAs).  The other advice is to keep a couple of weeks' living in cash (my grandfather advocated 2 months in cash but then he lost money when the bank failed in the Great Depression so he had a jaundiced view)

        While the advice is too late for this crisis, we can anticipate a number of crises in the next couple of years so paying down debt and trying to save is the best course to weather the storm.  (but then, I also stop and pick up pennies from the sidewalk)

  •  My Plate! (6+ / 0-)

    Small potatoes, but...

    My university students (future teachers) are planning their first teaching experiences in real classrooms.  

    One is teaching about nutrition....oops, no ""

    Another is teaching about plate tectonics & earthquakes....oops, can't access USGS.

    A third, space science (solar system) ....  oops, no

    A fourth student was looking for climate information...oops, no

    My response, "well, I guess this is a teachable moment about the importance of political decisions to your lives."

    And then, we put in a lot of extra time finding alternatives.

  •  As long as it doesn't impact football games (4+ / 0-)

    other than Army-Navy, what do Republicans care? /snark

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:32:44 PM PDT

  •  This is so heart breaking.... (10+ / 0-)

    it makes me sick to my stomach. So many people have not recovered from the crash in 2008, and then all the cuts to government employees, then the sequester and now this. I'm sure there are other items we could throw in the mix as well.

    These people do not have a soul or a heart!

  •  Is it just me (13+ / 0-)

    or is it particularly stupid to shutter the CDC right at the start of flu season?  and with a nasty MERS virus (kinda like SARS) in the Mid-East?

    Democrats give you the Bill of Rights; Republicans sell you a bill of goods!

    by barbwires on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:37:06 PM PDT

    •  GOP = thinking beyond humans (0+ / 0-)

      There are billions of humans, but trillions or quadrillions of microorganisms whose voices aren't being heard until today.

      Clearly working for the betterment of virus and germs everywhere - whether those virii/germs have metastasized into bankster form yet or not.

      Truly the CDC is a murderous bureaucracy that deserves to be shut down.

      Make sure everyone's vote counts: Verified Voting

      by sacrelicious on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:33:20 PM PDT

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    •  The Tea Party believes.... (0+ / 0-)

      ....that you get the flu because you don't pray hard enough, and that flu vaccines cause autism.

      You can't spell "Diane Feinstein" without "NSA".

      by varro on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 08:06:59 PM PDT

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  •  why does the WW2 memorial need guards? (3+ / 0-)

    Is someone gonna steal it?

  •  Send him the bill for all of the National Parks (1+ / 0-)
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    too -- I might want to visit one. He is a big spender, so I am sure he won't mind.

    We have only just begun and none too soon.

    by global citizen on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:05:14 PM PDT

  •  Commissary closing (3+ / 0-)
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    So military families/retired vets get to drive farther and pay more for groceries. Not including losses in perishables, etc. They stayed open yesterday to try to move inventory but now closed until further notice.

    •  and (1+ / 0-)
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      civilians who are working have to cancel their leave.  Tuition Assistance is suspended.  Training is cancelled for many military personnel and they are being sent back to their units without quals; travel is nearly all cancelled.  Promotion boards and selection boards are being delayed.  Some pay and entitlements can't be processed on time and will be delayed.  Ships and aircraft aren't getting repaired.  Etc. (impacts vary by service)

      But all the media can talk about is OMG THEY MIGHT HAVE TO CANCEL THE FOOTBALL GAMES!!  Sigh.  One sports writer lamented something to the effect of, "Cadets only have so many games they can play before they get commissioned."  No comment.

  •  You think those stars don't represent Americans (0+ / 0-)

    who died to keep the government of the USA operating.

    You are pissing on their graves you dirt bag.

    Only gun owners can control their guns and they say oopsie way too much. I lost it, I forgot it, it just went off. Support Gun Kill Speed Limits and Gun Ownership Speed Limits.

    by 88kathy on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:11:00 PM PDT

  •  The hell? "The WH barricaded the Memorial." These (2+ / 0-)
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    GOpers are either delusional or world class liars. Oh wait, why make it either or.

  •  Communities along the I-40 Corridor (1+ / 0-)
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    in Arizona will definitely be feeling the effects of the federal government closing. Grand Canyon and Petrified Forest National Parks, several national monuments and several national forrest campgrounds will close. Lakes Mead and Powell recreation areas will close. Fishing and hunting in the national forrests will be affected. National Wildlife Refuges will close.

    Thanks, tea baggers!

    Knowledge is Power. Ignorance is not bliss, it is suffering. If you like hypocrite Obama, you'll love hypocrite Hillary.

    by harris stein on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:19:15 PM PDT

  •  really great; I am told that SC leads the country (1+ / 0-)
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    in the number of women murdered by their partners each year.  We had a guy shoot up a bingo hall last week here, blew his girlfriend's head off with a shotgun and put the gun in his mouth when the cops arrive.   My daughter knew both of them.

    The nearest women's shelter is 45 miles away and what is the first thing abusers remove from their victims?  Their mobility by either taking vehicles, disabling them or reporting them as stolen should a victim take one.  How do you get 45 miles away with no vehicle.  Now it appears that shelter is closing so the next nearest is 98 miles away in another state.  Guess the GOP is telling abused women, "lotsa luck with your situation"

  •  When the R's fund not only every foodbank (0+ / 0-)

    and preschool, but also reimburse the parents of those preschoolers for the wages they missed thanks to no childcare, THEN I'll be impressed.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:21:05 PM PDT

  •  If we'd elected Mitt we wouldn't NEED a memorial. (0+ / 0-)


    So much for "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", eh Boehner?

    by here4tehbeer on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:21:34 PM PDT

  •  That much money (0+ / 0-)

    for cosmetics.

    "We respect the veterans" is what they'll say.

    How many of 'em are vets?  Reince is not.

    I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

    by trumpeter on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:23:10 PM PDT

  •  A fine classical vocal ensemble, going to DC? (0+ / 0-)

    My voice teacher sings with a great classical vocal group.  They are scheduled to perform at a prestigious federal venue in DC toward the end of this month.

    They need to book their flights soon.  What should they do?

    I can't help it. I love the state of Texas. It's a harmless perversion. - Molly Ivins

    by rsmpdx on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:24:10 PM PDT

  •  Typical cheap conservative opportunism (1+ / 0-)
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    It would be cheaper for the GOP to only allow a Vote in the House...

  •  FCC Shutdown (0+ / 0-)

    All non-essential function are shutdown so if you are involved in Amateur Radio and just passed an exam you shouldn't expect to be receiving your License and Call Sign any time soon. Normally it takes about a week after you pass an exam to receive your license, but now you're going to have to wait until all of this is resolved.

    I took passed my Technical exam last Saturday and was really looking forward to getting my Call Sign late this week or early next week, but now it's not going to happen.

    Small, but still a pain in the ass for anyone taking an FCC exam. And, in addition, companies that need the FCC to certify new products will just have to wait.

    The only trouble with retirement is...I never get a day off!

    by Mr Robert on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:30:56 PM PDT

  •  In Maine it's urchin season - along with (1+ / 0-)
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    the usual lobster fishing.  I just learned this afternoon that a place that a lot of the Downeast harvesters use to to land their catch has been closed because of the Republican-caused shutdown.  Acadia NP is closed, and so is this place (which none of us realized was on federal land.)  There are a lot of fishermen out there who will have to offload their catch in a place much further away - and that is going to mean they have to spend a lot more in fuel to get there.  It's been a not-great season as it is, and having to spend more in fuel is going to really hurt. Thanks to the crazed imbeciles in the GOP the hurt is affecting everyone.  

    I despise the GOP more than words can express.

    When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it? Eleanor Roosevelt

    by seefleur on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:37:53 PM PDT

  •  No hunting on Federal lands? (2+ / 0-)
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    That's going to hurt in a lot of rural communities in the west. Hunting Season is sacred in many places... and a lot of it is BLM or Forest Service land.

    Freedom isn't free. That's why we pay taxes.

    by walk2live on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:38:53 PM PDT

  •  Candidate announcements (0+ / 0-)

    would like to see the DNC and DCCC organize some candidate announcements. Now is when most people would be most interested in hearing what an opposition candidate would have to say and it would get plenty of local PR. DCCC could pledge to have a declared opponent any every Republican district before Thanksgiving.

    Many caveats department: vet the candidates first.

  •  Don't petition Boehner, get rid of him (3+ / 0-)
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    raboof, a2nite, bluemeanies

    There's that petition asking Boehner to let the govt reopen cluttering up this item.

    I don't feel that any American should lower himself to the point of asking Boehner for anything.  He's sold out his duty as Speaker to look out for our welfare, out of fear of losing his job.  Well, a coward dies a thousand deaths.  Let's do Boehner a favor by taking his job as Speaker away from him, so he won't have to be afraid of that anymore.

    David Corn over at Mother Jones, How John Boehner Could Lose His Speakership, explains how Speakers can be removed.  Any member can introduce a motion to declare the Speakership vacant -- not a stretch, really -- and force a vote on removing the current Speaker.  Corn's idea is that it's fear that the crazies in his own caucus will do this, then vote with Ds to oust him, then vote in the R caucus to run someone other than Boehner to replace him, that has driven Boehner to let the crazies have their way on shutdown.

    The Ds in the House should call for such a vote, to declare the speakership vacant, every day until the shutdown ends.  No, not because it will actually oust Boehner, at least not the first time, or that it will result in Nancy Pelosi winning the vote to replace Boehner even if the motion does carry.  The idea is to keep making "moderate" Rs vote to keep in place the Speaker who won't bring up a clean CR for a vote, even as they claim to want to vote for a clean CR.  Every day they get a chance to make good on their wise and benevolent intention to, you know, not destroy the country, and yet publicly fail to carry through by getting rid of the Speaker who refuses to bring up a clean CR.

    Sooner or later, these moderates will cut bait and decide to get rid of Boehner, then join with Ds in voting in a new Speaker who has promised to bring up a clean CR.  Their party will be a smoking ruin by then, so maybe they'll just switch, and that next Speaker will be Pelosi.  Or maybe they will just enter into a coalition with the Ds, and insist that one of them be the Speaker.  It's all good.  Either way destroys the Republican Party.

    The states must be abolished.

    by gtomkins on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:42:18 PM PDT

  •  Americans need a simple message. (1+ / 0-)
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    We need a "Call the Vote" campaign.  Just bring the clean CR for 90 days for a vote and move on.

    The people deserve no less.

  •  They want to do funding for the men first (0+ / 0-)

    And cut everything that helps women.

    After all, the women should have to go to men to survive, no matter how badly the men treat them.

    Women create the entire labor force.
    Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

    by splashy on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 09:02:29 PM PDT

  •  God, I want to (proverbially) slap the shit out of (0+ / 0-)

    Priebus.  That will take a lot of slapping.

    Ayn sucks. Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer.

    by Floyd Blue on Thu Oct 03, 2013 at 04:21:03 AM PDT

  •  Priebus = William B. Williams from Sammy Maudlin (0+ / 0-)

    Does anyone else see the similarity in that inane chuckling, and smarmy sycophantish kissing up??

    Ayn sucks. Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer.

    by Floyd Blue on Thu Oct 03, 2013 at 04:22:02 AM PDT

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