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Governor John Hickenlooper conducted an interview with USA Today where he discussed the recalls of State Senators Morse and Giron as well as the potential third recall of State Senator Hudak.

Money quotes:

"Colorado is a state that people like to be themselves and solve their own problems," the Democratic governor said in an interview with Capital Download, USA TODAY's weekly video newsmaker series. "They don't really like outside organizations meddling in their affairs, and maybe the NRA gets a pass on that.
And then a gentle rebuke perhaps to the some of the bigger national gun control groups:
But (it is) probably not a bad idea" for gun-control groups, such as the one established by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, to curb their efforts if gun-rights activists collect enough signatures to force a recall vote on state Sen. Evie Hudak, a two-term Democrat from a suburban district north of Denver, he said.
Recall efforts are just beginning for Senator Hudak. Organizers believe they can get the required signatures to force an election even though a prior attempt - at the same time as the other recalls - failed.

There's some additional info in David Nir's diary from last week.

Originally posted to campionrules on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 06:42 AM PDT.

Also republished by Colorado COmmunity and Firearms Law and Policy.


Should National Gun Control groups stay involved in any upcoming Colorado Recalls?

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  •  Well, at least this demonstrates (8+ / 0-)

    that Hick doesn't have what it takes to be president.  His statement will no doubt piss off both sides.

    This much said, when it comes to gun control, Colorado is indeed a total writeoff.  Trust me; I live there.

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 06:46:17 AM PDT

  •  Because guns are more important than people (4+ / 0-)

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 06:47:13 AM PDT

  •  Gun Control can only be done by gun owners. (3+ / 0-)
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    The recall did not repeal the gun laws. It was costly and would have failed without the voting fraud partnership.

    Only gun owners can control their guns and they say oopsie way too much. I lost it, I forgot it, it just went off. Support Gun Kill Speed Limits and Gun Ownership Speed Limits.

    by 88kathy on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 07:03:19 AM PDT

  •  Hick is right (10+ / 0-)

    two of the laws wouldn't have nudged the who cares meter. The third was way over the line and realistically wouldn't cut gun homicides which are very low in CO anyway.

    What's needed for recalls is lots of people knocking on doors, getting other concerned neighbors to get out and vote, for education, voting rights, healthcare, marriage equality, clean power generation, or any of a host of issues that Dems in my state have done right.

    Even if the recall is successful, and we lose control of the state senate, that's not as important as governor Hickenlooper's re election itself. I'm concerned about the senate race, the governor's race and the uphill effort to regain US House seats is a bigger concern.

    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

    by ban nock on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 07:21:26 AM PDT

    •  Maintaining control over the state legislature (4+ / 0-)

      is important for getting bills passed that support Democratic initiatives.  I'll grant you, the gun control bills were divisive, but I think you were writing after the recall that Angela Giron refused to explain why she voted to expand background checks and gun magazine size limits leaving her wide open to those who were all fired up to recall her.  I think the gun show loophole issue is a winner in Colorado dating back to Columbine and more recently when the woman bought the gun for Even Ebel so he could go shoot the Corrections chief.  Both those cases were straw purchases, so I think they're probably both still loopholes in the current law, but the law gets us closer to trying to keep people from getting guns who the state has determined should not possess them (and so they'd fail the background check at licensed gun shops).  The Senate might be lost in a recall, but I sure hope not because Colorado would devolve into the same type of situation as the federal legislation.  No, there's no filibuster in Colorado, but there are plenty of wingnut Republicans (like those from Weld County) who would blow up the legislature and prevent any measures from passing if they can't get their way on virtually everything.

      We would never have the civil union legislation had the Democrats not gained control over both houses of the legislature, the legislature changed from tax cuts to funding measures for several departments and there are more issues that actually are getting moved forward compared to when the two branches of the legislature were controlled by the different parties.  Just as legislature went forward at the national level when one party controlled both houses, Colorado needs legislature to move forward and imo the best way is to have Democrats in control of both houses.  The federal level is very important, but so is the state level.

      •  Didn't Colorado close the "gun show loophole" (3+ / 0-)
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        (a misnomer, btw)after Columbine?

        The mag capacity restriction was a huge mistake, IMNSHO.  First, no evidence that it would actually save any lives, and more importantly it got enough people riled up that two seats were lost.  

        •  yes in that you can't purchase guns at a gun show (3+ / 0-)
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          except on passing a federal background check.

          “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

          by ban nock on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 01:38:24 PM PDT

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          •  It was a careless description on my part. The (2+ / 0-)
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            new law expands background checks to go beyond gun shows to cover nearly all gun sales.  I don't know the particular language, but I believe it's designed to include sales between persons who aren't licensed dealers, but basically could be advertising through Craig's List, out of the trunk of a car or other rather informal setting.

            •  all private sales (2+ / 0-)
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              either people are selling guns to each other and not reporting, or private sales were a tiny percentage of sales. Sales were less than 3% of overall sales in the first month, about fourteen times lower than projected by the sponsors.


              Every time I go to Sportsmans Warehouse there above the urinals is that sign appoligising for gov Hick costing you $10 more on every gun sale. Not much, and I sure haven't bought any guns, but it sure isn't a very good omen what with the stink and what not.

              “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

              by ban nock on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 03:58:54 PM PDT

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        •  I believe (and I think the legislators also (2+ / 0-)
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          believe) that James Holmes would have caused far more death and injury at the Aurora theater had his 100 round magazine not jammed.  The legislators felt that they didn't want to have to wait until several dozen people were shot by a large magazine to consider that they now had sufficient evidence that they're dangerous and not reasonable for the public to have and use.

          I feel that people were plenty riled up that there were any restrictions placed upon their ability to have, hold and to use firearms.  I don't know that the magazine limit restriction would have made a difference in the long run.  I'm glad that it's there.

      •  Awful lot to lose over the pointless magazine ban. (0+ / 0-)

        I hope the lesson sticks this time.

        Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

        by FrankRose on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 07:47:42 PM PDT

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    •  Hick's a liability. (0+ / 0-)

      If it is plausible the Dems should primary him.

      Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

      by FrankRose on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 07:45:31 PM PDT

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  •  "Now is not the time." (0+ / 0-)

    Seems I've heard that before...
    Can't quite recall exactly where...

    So Hickenlooper is writing for Daily Kos now?

    Pun intended.

    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

    by LilithGardener on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 12:55:55 PM PDT

  •  Now in Colorado all private and online (0+ / 0-)

    transfers of firearms require a background check which has to be done through a licensed firearm dealer.

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