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The Obamacare rollout fiasco, NSA spying on our allies’ leaders, and the nearly-bungled Syria showdown have many democrats shaking our heads.

We know this president has an unyielding and strident opposition, but these are mostly unforced errors.

Is there something about this white house and administration which doesn’t have the chops to perform at the highest level?  Are we talking incompetence?

For those of us who lived through it, I hate to bring this up.  But does this remind you of the “Carter” years?

“Seventy six” was the first presidential I worked on.  Though I was living in Vermont, I spent a month in New York City volunteering for the Georgia Governor.  Elated when we took out Gerry Ford, we then suffered under the inarticulate and ineffectual Jimmy Carter.

No, Barack Obama is no Jimmy Carter.

We love and respect President Obama; but his administration continues to fumble around and hand its opponents opportunities to score points against us.

We can’t always rely on republican high-jinks.  We gathered steam during the shutdown and want big gains in 2014.  This president and white house must show that democrats can do more than prevent extremists from taking over the country.

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  •  Tip Jar (0+ / 0-)

    Lou Siegel is a Labor educator and consultant, working with Los Angeles unions in communications, public policy and fundraising

    by laborlou on Sun Oct 27, 2013 at 10:29:01 AM PDT

  •  ... (22+ / 0-)
    For those of us who lived through it, I hate to bring this up.  But does this remind you of the “Carter” years?

    "I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights." (From "You Said a Mouthful" by Bishop Desmond Tutu - South African bishop & activist, b.1931)

    by FiredUpInCA on Sun Oct 27, 2013 at 10:33:28 AM PDT

  •  With "friends" like this (12+ / 0-)

    who needs enemies?

    By the way, who was primarily responsible for blocking Carter's agenda?

    Oh, yeah. Democrats like you.

  •  Hells naw, son (8+ / 0-)

    Things like Obamacare website glitchiness (because NO OTHER webservice rollout EVER had problems) can be fixed. The GOP's self-induced dipshittery will never be.

    Who do you think indie voters will gravitate toward in 2014?

  •  Likewise, no. (12+ / 0-)

    Obamacare rollout "fiasco"- soon to be fixed and forgotten, except for the BenghaziSolyandraFastandFurious fixators...NSA spying- I'll grant this one. Tho programs started under GWB,  but Obama has failed to rein them in...Nearly bungled Syria showdown- nearly bungled? He turned a sh*t sandwich into ham and cheese-no war and destruction of chemical weapons. Where's the "nearly bungled" part?

    If you examine the full record and skip the CW talking points, Carter wasn't so bad.

    -Just because you're a vegetarian doesn't mean the bull won't charge you.-

    by dobropicker on Sun Oct 27, 2013 at 10:54:52 AM PDT

  •  It's a slow Sunday (12+ / 0-)

    so why not do a little "concern" trolling to spice up the day?

    It's the Supreme Court, stupid!

    by Radiowalla on Sun Oct 27, 2013 at 10:59:28 AM PDT

  •  I was a teenager during that time, but I (8+ / 0-)

    know this: Comparing the current time to the mid and late 70s...aint no comparison.

    Guns are never the principal in the commission of a crime, but they are usually an accomplice

    by MadGeorgiaDem on Sun Oct 27, 2013 at 11:41:57 AM PDT

  •  I voted for Jimmy Carter (4+ / 0-)

    and have great respect for the man.

    Hopefully, when Obama leaves office I'll be able to say the same but frankly he has a long way to go.

    The only trouble with retirement is...I never get a day off!

    by Mr Robert on Sun Oct 27, 2013 at 11:55:12 AM PDT

    •  awah (6+ / 0-)

      I love Carter too, he didn't get anyone killed, and he's a decent man. He should not have run again, but then Teddy should not have primaried him either.  So, we got Reagan, who started killing unions and set the path for today's income disparities.

      But, Obama has almost nothing in common with Carter. Obama is a practical man, he is getting as much done as possible, under current political conditions.  Historians will point that out, just like historians aren't down on Carter, like the nation was when we found him depressing and so purchased Ronnie's morning in america.  

      Obama is doing the best job he can do, which is close to the best possible, in other words pretty damn good.  He's our philosopher prince. Carter was our conscience.  

      •  From disgraced president to Nobel Laureate (1+ / 0-)
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        It can be argued that Jimmy Carter was in over his head due to circumstances beyond his control, and left the White House in disgrace. But he quickly turned things around and has become a respected moral and political figure.

        Unlike many on the right, Jimmy Carter has proven himself to be both deeply religious, yet able to separate church and state, i.e., his religion from his politics. Jimmy Carter monitors elections in Latin America and teaches Sunday School in Plains, GA. Only a blithering idiot would confuse the two!

        Winning praise for diplomacy, charity and philanthropy (e.g., the Carter Center, Habitat for Humanity, etc.), by 1992, Carter was recognized as an elder statesman within the Democratic Party. Even Bill Clinton sought his advice when running for president.

        Carter's post-presidential service has won him praise from across the political spectrum. When I commented to some conservative pro-life friends years ago that Jimmy Carter was one of the best presidents of the late 20th century, they were willing to concede he's one of the best ex-presidents.

        Carter's post-presidential reputation has gotten recognition from many in the younger generation. In 2007, I spent a romantic weekend with a single mother I met through an online dating service. As we initially got to know each other, she spoke favorably of Jimmy Carter.

        Since she was born on January 31, 1973, I wondered if she would have been old enough to even remember the Carter Administration! She was less than eight years old when he left office.

        Jimmy Carter deserves the Nobel Peace Prize and the status of a respected moral and political figure.

  •  First, Jimmy Carter was a pretty good President. (5+ / 0-)

    His problem was that he took office during a shaky recovery from the 1974 "Great Recession" and he happened to be the guy in office when the Shah of Iran ran out of steam - leading to the 2nd  great oil shock, double digit inflation, and a humiliating hostage crisis.
      Second: The NSA overreach was an inherited problem. The Snowden reveal just happened to occur on Obama's watch and he has caught the consequences of what the NSA has been doing forever.
    And, I don't think Obama bungled Syria. The neocon war machine had the skids greased for another Mideast war and Obama wisely deferred the decision to Congress...which is to say, he delayed it forever. Meanwhile, Syria gave up its chemical weapons.
      So, no unforced errors.
      In fact, the satisfactory resolution of the Syria issue may well have been pure luck.

  •  The comparisons are so flimsy (6+ / 0-)

    they practically fell apart as i was reading them.

    Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

    by anastasia p on Sun Oct 27, 2013 at 12:36:10 PM PDT

  •  One theme of the Carter era, it seems to me (6+ / 0-)

    Carter followed a President who was a notorious liar. I seem to recall that Carter campaigned on a theme of honesty. After Nixon, voters seemed to find that appealing, at first. Then Carter spoke honestly about some things Americans didn't really want to hear. Next time around, voters seemed to find more appeal in the nostalgic stories offered by an actor and cigarette-salesman.

  •  How do you know Syria was 'nearly bungled'? (6+ / 0-)

    Were you in on the meetings? Or were you being overwhelmed by all the Republican braying at the time, which OF COURSE was nothing BUT them saying how Obama was 'blowing it', when it all seemed to work out pretty well in the end?

    Remember the Republican mantra; no matter WHAT Obama's position is on ANYTHING, constantly hammer that he's going to fail, that he IS failing, and once it's over, that he DID fail - no matter how well it went. I prefer not to fall for that tactic - how about you?

    "I have a sheep doing rufi at my house.... come and drop by, we'll put on Zeppelin and eat cheddar cheese!" - Capt. Jean-Luc Picard

    by Fordmandalay on Sun Oct 27, 2013 at 01:40:20 PM PDT

  •  What are you some kind of GOOPER concern troll? (1+ / 0-)
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    President Carter sent the Delta Force to rescue American hostages.  Your Saint Ronald of Reagan sent Ollie North with a plane load of missiles and cake shaped like a key and begged for the release of hostages.

    President Carter appointed Paul Volcker as Fed Chairman and worked with him to implement a policy to end inflation. Can you imagine your St. Ronald of Reagan even contemplating such a thing?

    President Carter ended the B-1 B bomber and used that money to fund Stealth technology and retrofitting B52s with cruise missiles. Your Saint Ronald of Reagan wasted money on re-starting the B1-B and aged destroyers.

    President Carter never dedicated a space shuttle to Islamic fundamentalists or compared them to our founding fathers. Can your St. Ronald of Reagan make the same claim.

    You GOOPERs have done your best to turn this nation into a vassal state of Wahabi fundamentalists. You will not succeed.

  •  I will add this (3+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne, elmo, Sir Roderick

    concerning the "nearly bungled Syria"

    I've been around a good long while.  I've seen presidents from Johnson to Obama handle (or mis-handle) foreign affairs.  This president started out with one of the most problematic foreign affairs scenarios to deal with from day one.

    He has done better on each "crisis" than any of his peers in my opinion.  That goes for fucking Bengazi, Afghanistan,. Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Syria, etc etc etc.

    In fact the outcome of the weapons of mass destruction issue in Syria (final outcome overall to be determined) needs to be compared to Bush's handling of Iraq to be seen for what it's worth - a fucking masterstroke.  

    If Obama has a problem it's that he does not do the swagger thing.  No brag, just fact.  He works quietly, competetently and in the very best interests of this country.  

    FWIW, I don't agree on a lot of what the NSA is doing and I get very hinky about drone strikes, but looking at the overall picture, this president will go down as one of the very best.  And you don't even have to compare him to chumpy McBush to come up with that.  I won't rec this diary because it is flat assed wrong.

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