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With my clocks just fallen back an hour, as per Eastern Standard time, I gotta say that I really can't stand Standard time.

It's not that I don't like standards (well, actually, I'm no big fan of them either, if you'd like to know). But what aggravates me no end is how early it gets dark when we shift to Standard time.

Some people - including my wife - think the too-early fall of night is well worth the extra hour of sleep in the morning. I never get enough sleep anyway. An hour more doesn't make much difference to me, if I'm up until 3 or 4 in the morning (as you can see by the time stamp on many of my posts).

But what I do care about is driving home in the evening - no, not even evening, more like late afternoon - and it's pitch dark outside! I know, the winter is coming, it's gonna be even darker outside pretty soon anyway, but why deliberately make it worse?

If it's cold outside, and we had a way of regulating the world's temperature, and someone said let's make it even colder - would we do it? Would any sane nation or person?

I used to hear, when I was a kid, that the farmers had something to do with this - but I never got exactly why the farmers cared about so much about getting an extra hour of light in the morning, anyway. The crops and the cows couldn't care that much, one way or the other. (My wife just told me that the farmers were responsible for Daylight Savings time - ok, so maybe this change tonight is not their fault. Whose fault is it, then? What constituency is Congress trying to serve here?)

The deeper point is that we shouldn't be messing around so much with time ... it's unhealthy, as any time traveler can tell you...

Or, if we do, let's extend the daylight even more. Let's have as much sunlight as we can in the early evening...

And if we're a little more tired in the morning? Go off someplace quiet, if you can, take a little catnap, and dream of how nice the snow will look all agleam and beautiful in six o'clock sun...

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  •  Tip Jar (8+ / 0-)

    "the remedy to be applied is more speech" -- Louis Brandeis

    by PaulLev on Sun Nov 03, 2013 at 12:27:13 AM PDT

  •  hahaha (0+ / 0-)

    It's all about an extra hour of light for people to shop.

    Does that make sense to you? It doesn't to me...but that is what I have read. In order to keep the light going longer (so people feel like it's still afternoon and they shop) this travesty has continued for about seventy or so years.

    Then they have to switch back to regular time so the little kiddies have light both to go to school and come home from it.

    The fact that both their parents are stuck at work seems not to have connected with anyone who votes on this stuff.

    Hence, latchkey kids.

    Does this make any sense to anyone?

    Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

    by Youffraita on Sun Nov 03, 2013 at 01:07:01 AM PDT

  •  I'm in HI so I don't have that problem (2+ / 0-)
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    Dave in Northridge, Linda1961

    Wiki-Wikipedia's Daylight saving time is a very good article on the Pros and Cons of DST.

    ...in the US, Hawaii and most of Arizona do not observe DST.
    However, I need to adjust my schedule to watch national cable TV shows which are broadcast at the same (mainland) times, but an hour different for me.  I rather have it that way then changing my clocks (twice a year).  I've heard that congress is considering requiring all states to observe DST.
    Complexity
    DST's clock shifts have the obvious disadvantage of complexity. People must remember to change their clocks; this can be time-consuming, particularly for mechanical clocks that cannot be moved backward safely. People who work across time zone boundaries need to keep track of multiple DST rules, as not all locations observe DST or observe it the same way. .....
    Permanent daylight saving time
    A move to "permanent daylight saving time" (staying on summer hours all year with no time shifts) is sometimes advocated, and has in fact been implemented in some jurisdictions such as Argentina, Iceland, Russia, Uzbekistan and Belarus. The United Kingdom stayed on daylight saving time from 1968 to 1971. ....
    I would like to have "Permanent DST".  I think the US tried it one year and some children got killed when going to school in the dark.  Hawaii is close to the equator so the latest Sun Rise is about 7:10 AM, about an hour to start of school.

    Ref Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/...

  •  I like the idea of flexible time (3+ / 0-)
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    Bob Love, raines, Linda1961

    Just make sunrise always six AM and sunset always six PM and carry the length of hours (and minutes, and seconds) so that there are always twelve hours of daylight and twelve hours of darkness. Sure, you have to work long days in the summer, but those crappy winter work days would be over in a snap.  Hawaii would barely notice. Of course, days would get really funny in Alaska.  We might have to deduct a few weeks from their calendar, or just shrink them down real small.

    But think of the economic boost you'd get selling very fancy clocks, and the way it would improve advanced math skills for anyone who had to travel.

  •  It's like. . . (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Bob Love, Linda1961

    . . .chopping the tail off of a dog and putting it on the other end to make it longer. Poor Fido.

  •  Why don't we just split the difference? Fall back (1+ / 0-)
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    Linda1961

    a half hour and stay there.

    We are all pupils in the eyes of God.

    by nuclear winter solstice on Sun Nov 03, 2013 at 04:00:52 AM PST

  •  Thank you! I have SAD, and I really could use (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MKS

    that extra hour of daylight at the end of the day.

  •  Where I am the sun would come up at (1+ / 0-)
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    grover

    5 in the summer or 9 in the winter. One's too early and one's too late. Everybody wants the longer daylight after work in the summer but they don't want to pay for it by waiting till 9AM for the sun in the winter. That's why we change it.

    We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance.

    by PowWowPollock on Sun Nov 03, 2013 at 05:11:52 AM PST

  •  I am really sick of this whole discussion. (1+ / 0-)
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    LIcenter

    And the reason is that it seems 99 percent of the population do not understand the basic science of a round earth tilted on an axis.

    Compare the sunrise on the Eastern and Western part of a time zone? Bullshit. AND Time zones are in some places much wider than the 15 degrees which would make them one hour increments. So double bullshit, there.

    Compare the sunrise and sunsets in the north to the south? What the fuck is wrong with people? We're not rotatin' perpendicular to the sun.

    /end of rant

    This better be good. Because it is not going away.

    by DerAmi on Sun Nov 03, 2013 at 05:37:26 AM PST

  •  Here in AZ we're lucky; we don't change our clocks (2+ / 0-)
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    MKS, BPARTR

    They're permanently locked in at 1885.

    There are really only 10 kinds of people in this world; those who understand Binary, and those who don't.

    by Fordmandalay on Sun Nov 03, 2013 at 06:12:10 AM PST

  •  This these incidents of daily (0+ / 0-)

    life matter.   Our rhythms of how we experience our world.  Really the essence of life.

    The time change is a big deal....even though that may sound trivial....

    I wonder what it would be like to live in Alaska with the daylight changing so much.....every day being different by a noticeable amount...

  •  I am happy with either one (0+ / 0-)

    It really doesn't matter to me if it's daylight or standard time, I just hate the changeovers and would rather just stick with one of them all year.

  •  My understanding... (0+ / 0-)

    ...is that standard time is natural time.  That is, the sun is directly overhead at noon and creates negligible shadow.  It's daylight time that is skewed from the natural order, but we like our longer light at the end of the day so we play God.

    •  right but (0+ / 0-)

      being human is trying to improve upon natural conditions - reduce disease, fly in the air, have crops that are resistant to frost, etc - that's what we mean by civilization

      "the remedy to be applied is more speech" -- Louis Brandeis

      by PaulLev on Sun Nov 03, 2013 at 11:16:59 AM PST

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  •  We all have to make sacrifices . . . (0+ / 0-)

    and I for one am glad to get rid of that "extra hour of sunlight" if it helps ameliorate global warming.

    It's a small price to pay, really.

  •  It all depends (0+ / 0-)

    Whether or not daylight savings time makes sense just depends upon whether you live at east or the west side of a time zone.

    If you live on the east side, then it gets light an hour sooner than if you live on the west side, regardless of whether or not the clocks are adjusted.

    As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

    by BPARTR on Sun Nov 03, 2013 at 01:10:05 PM PST

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