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They think they face a victorious Democratic Party that is intent on expanding government to increase dependency and therefore electoral support. It starts with food stamps and unemployment benefits; expands further if you legalize the illegals; but insuring the uninsured dramatically grows those dependent on government. They believe this is an electoral strategy — not just a political ideology or economic philosophy. If Obamacare happens, the Republican Party may be lost, in their view.
It's an incredibly cynical view, reducing any laws that have significantly improved Americans' quality of life to mere political gamesmanship. It calls the very notion of democracy into question.

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  •  But of course tax cuts aren't bribes (27+ / 0-)

    And banning abortions or any of the other shit they want government to do. So much of Republican "thought" amounts to "it's OK for me but not for thee!"

    Spite is the ranch dressing Republicans slather on their salad of racism

    by ontheleftcoast on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 06:54:48 AM PST

    •  tax cuts are payment in kind (8+ / 0-)

      repaying the plutocrats for all the soft cash which a pol can convert to private use from his war chest.  Look at some of these pols and how many family members they have on the payroll with featherbed jobs and inflated salaries.

      (Funny thing is GOP opposed featherbedding by the unions)

      •  "Democracy is not the solution for our problems. (10+ / 0-)

        Democracy is the problem."

        -- what Ronald Reagan was really thinking

        This is a hoax. Blaming government / democracy for every failure leverages low level paranoia to create a hoax that government operates like an alien invasion.

        ""I think government is inherently inept because they don't work on a profit motive," from Rand Paul. That's a subtle restatement of the same hoax.

        At least half of our economy falls to jobs that require experience and skills, but are not fast changing and are better done communally. Profit has no relationship to a fire or police department, schools, figuring where to build bridges or contracting them, or many of the thousands of functions that keep us a civilized society. Similarly, JPL/NASA/CDC/etc. are cost centers. So capitalism and profit are irrelevant to their operations.

        Rand Paul knows next to nothing about economics.

        Same for teabaggers and the NeoCon "philosophy" guys. They fall in love with one minor part of 19th Century economics -- the Austrian School -- and fail to understand that the period 1929-1932 proved conclusively that those idea failed utterly where there is a systemic Balance Sheet Recession.

        You couldn't get a gentleman's "C" in a macroeconomics course today with their nonsense. It's all about hoaxes for the GOP and their allies. They let Lee Atwater and then Karl Rove take over their media operations. Now none of the core of what they say is truthful. They're lying shills.

        •  however, these same folks have orchestrated (4+ / 0-)
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          JeffW, waterstreet2013, justaHippie, rbird

          a profound change in how money is earned in this country.  Go back 30 years and the majority of money is generated through salaries and "earned" money.  today the principal income generator in this country is investments or "unearned" money which is basically a high stakes poker game where the deep pockets profit mightily but the majority lacks the basic stash to even sit in.  Even if you save your shekels and do buy in at a very low level, chances are that you will not be able to meet a raise (or call) very early in the game and find yourself cashed out, back where you started (which is why I don't play poker though I used to be good at it)

        •  I would counter "I think government is corrupt (3+ / 0-)
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          if it works on a profit motive."

        •  That explains it (3+ / 0-)

          Rand Paul works on an ideology motive, so by his own words is inherently inept. And look! So he is.

          Unfortunately for your other point, in economics the inmates have bought out the asylum in a hostile takeover, and teach their nonsense openly and without shame, especially at the University of Chicago. They used to have complete control at the Fed, Treasury, and the World Bank besides (what Joe Stiglitz called the Washington Consensus in several books, going back to The Roaring Nineties). We have made some progress in wresting control from them, but we have a long way to go.

          • Janet Yellen for Fed Chair.
          • Dr. Jim Yong Kim, co-founder of Partners in Health, now World Bank President
          • Jack Lew of Citigroup as Treasury Secretary

          Two out of three, so far. Maybe. And Elizabeth Warren in the Senate. Now, if we could take the House, go back to the talking filibuster in the Senate, and replace Kennedy or Scalia on the Supreme Court, we might get somewhere. For a start, we would be able to talk about a new Voting Rights Act to undo voter suppression and gerrymandering, and then we could take up the Progressive Caucus platform.

          Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

          by Mokurai on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 12:36:25 PM PST

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          •  We need to change criminal justice (1+ / 0-)
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            and the incarceration systems as well.

            2,400,000 people in prisons is madness.

            That's up more than 2,000,000 people from 30 years ago.

            Cost goes to high side of $90-billion. Crazy money. Most of it wasted on non-violent druggies.

            But there's no good entry point to control incarceration. It's state legislatures and governors, almost all of them "tough on crime."

            •  there r hopeful signs, as some conservatives r... (1+ / 0-)
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              ...starting to realize the insane costs of incarceration, the lunacy of the war on [some] drugs, the inherent injustice in mandatory minimums, etcetc.
              There were some good articles in the Washington Monthly and its blog, Political Animal, covering this phenom not too long ago.
              It's nice when the Publicans can get past their normal cognitive dissonance, and actually be true to their ostensible principles (in this case, opposing inefficiencies and waste in gummint, and obscene corporate welfare to the privatized prison-industrial complex).

    •  Faith-based initiative $ bribe Bible imbibers. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ♥ ♥ ♥ Forget Neo — The One is Minori Urakawa

      by lotlizard on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 07:53:22 AM PST

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    •  IIRC (2+ / 0-)
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      Some Dem tried to point this out back in the '80s or early '90s and become the butt of derision for a lot of George Will type rightie pundits.

      "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

      by Stude Dude on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 08:32:38 AM PST

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  •  GOP projecting their issues again (8+ / 0-)

    The GOP is the incredibly cynical party, and they very clearly do tactical legislation that both includes people they want to vote for them and excludes those they don't want to go to the polls. When they accuse Dems of doing this, it's because they cannot stand to look in the mirror and admit it about themselves.

    ~ Nothing insightful to say ~

    by EagleOfFreedom on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 07:08:54 AM PST

    •  works for me (2+ / 0-)
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      JeffW, smartalek

      The GOP policies, will by and large, result in the hastening of the demise of many of their older supporters while minimizing the incentive of the younger people to join the GOP.  The GOP is gambling that young people want cash instead of benefits, but I don't think that is the case.  When I was young I only had one major issue, but insurance was important to me.  I had it through school and then work for a while, but did not have it for a few years because, even as a healthy young person, it would have cost $3,000 a year  It was stressful.  Can't imagine supporting people who actively opposed me getting medical care.

      But, hey, anything is possible. I mean many people care more about their right to murder other people.

  •  GOP ideology is a mess (5+ / 0-)

    For example they buy into Exceptionalism so they support a robust military with a large global footprint.  They buy into Dominionism and Tribulationalism ( at least on the surface) so they fanatically support the current Israeli government.  At the same time, they are also virulently anti-immigration and oppose any more brown people coming here though the flow of people to and from countries is one of the consequences of being an international powerhouse economically and militarily.  Our economic status is an oil based one which means at times, supporting Israel in all of its actions is counter to our own self interests.  Pragmatism would dictate that we try to moderate some of those actions in our own self interest.

    This is why the GOP is a worse mess than the Democrats; they have a hodge podge of competing, contradictory interests whose only common ideology seems to be "I got mine; screw you"  

    •  The republicans are in a conspiracy bubble. (2+ / 0-)
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      It goes like this: since most people agree with them and their policies are right, the reason they lose elections can only be because the democrats cheated.

      You're right that they bought into all those beliefs and as the economy was good, the was no reason to think that they were on the right path.

      They believed and had the proof: the American way.

      However reality stepped in and the economy tanked.

      Once you believe something for years, your whole life is based on it, you don't just leave it, you double down.

      Sad but true.  They are scared, very scared.    

      •  The process is documented in the book (0+ / 0-)

        When Prophecy Fails, which gave us the phrase Cognitive Dissonance.

        People naturally don't like to consider the idea that their lives are based on deceit and malice, but that is the starting point for several religions. I will cite only Christianity and Buddhism out of those that I have some knowledge of.

        Two people went up to the temple area to pray; one was a Pharisee and the other was a tax collector. The Pharisee took up his position and spoke this prayer to himself, "O God, I thank you that I am not like the rest of humanity -- greedy, dishonest, adulterous -- or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week, and I pay tithes on my whole income." But the tax collector stood off at a distance and would not even raise his eyes to heaven but beat his breast and prayed, "O God, be merciful to me a sinner." I tell you, the latter went home justified, not the former; for whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be exalted (Luke 18:10-14)
        What many who call themselves Christian turn that into I don't really get.
        Freedom Is Gained By The Recognition Of Our Past Evil Acts And Contrition Therefor.

        Because of their limitless compassion the Buddhas and Ancestors have flung wide the gates of compassion to both gods and men and, although karmic consequence for evil acts is inevitable at some time during the three periods, contrition makes it easier to bear by bringing freedom and immaculacy: as this is so, let us be utterly contrite before the Buddhas.

        Contrition before the Buddhas brings purification and salvation, true conviction and earnest endeavour: once aroused, true conviction changes all beings, in addition to ourselves, with benefits extending to everything including that which is animate and inanimate.

        Here is the way in which to make an act of perfect contrition. “May all the Buddhas and Ancestors, who have become enlightened, have compassion upon us, free us from the obstacle of suffering which we have inherited from our past existence and lead us in such a way that we may share the merit that fills the universe for they, in the past, were as we are now, and we will be as they in the future. All the evil committed by me is caused by beginningless greed, hate and delusion: all the evil is committed by my body, in my speech and in my thoughts: I now confess everything wholeheartedly.” By this act of recognition of our past behaviour, and our contrition therefor, we open the way for the Buddhas and Ancestors to help us naturally. Bearing this in mind, we should sit up straight in the presence of the Buddha and repeat the above act of contrition, thereby cutting the roots of our evildoing.

        (Dogen Zenji, Shushogi)

        Although I know some Fundamentalist Buddhists who are as bad as any pseudo-Christian. But not so many

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 12:58:15 PM PST

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    •  Their deal is Call Of Duty: Teach Them A Lesson (0+ / 0-)

      A.k.a.: Blast the mutha*&^ers !!

      It can Iraqis, Zombies, Lebanese, Afghans, vampires, Pakis, Nazis, or raptors. Hit the button x-number of times and they're interchangeable.

      COD now has a dog. A fighting dog.

      Expect Christie, Ryan and Paul to show up with their new dogs !!!

  •  It's Orwell come to life... (6+ / 0-)

    What's black is white; what's bad is good...

    What's progress, and beneficial to the country, is really a secret, black-hearted conspiracy.

    I don't get how Americans can be so dumb.

    I'm not sixty-three—I'm fifty-thirteen!

    by Pragmatus on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 07:13:24 AM PST

  •  Moving the Overton Window (9+ / 0-)

    a Boston Globe reporter interviewed me today after I voted.  She asked me why I voted, and I said I wanted to elect progressive candidates rather than conservative ones.  She said, well, that's not a problem here in Boston, they're all Democrats.  I said I'm a socialist.  I said I support labor, unions, and the environment.  I'm against charter schools.

    She seemed taken aback, maybe because I live in one of the most conservative districts in Boston (Lynch is my rep).  I think she was expecting a different opinion from me.

  •  If there's an election near you today, (6+ / 0-)

    vote like your rights depend on it, because they do!

    A great democracy does not make it harder to vote than to buy an assault weapon. -Bill Clinton

    by PSzymeczek on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 07:24:22 AM PST

    •  I voted Monday Oct. 21 (3+ / 0-)

      I have the Houston city elections, plus a Community College board, and a few other things. I voted for a bond issue to save the Astrodome. Today is the regular election day.
      And I voted to re-elect Mayor Annise Parker. I also voted for Jenifer Pool, who is running for an open City Council seat, at-large, position 3. She has a good forceful personality and is a good listener. She would make history as a transgender elected official.
      For the Houston Community College board I voted for incumbent Bruce Austin, against Dave Wilson, who has been a perennial opponent of the glbt movement.
      Yes, I vote in every election.

      Censorship is rogue government.

      by scott5js on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 07:55:35 AM PST

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  •  Glad this didn't happen (2+ / 0-)
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    MR. RUTLEDGE of SOUTH CAROLINA.   A moment, Mr. Jefferson. If the government secures our inalienable rights, it can take them away. Your formula will enslave us all.

    MR. JEFFERSON. Um...gosh, I never thought of that.

  •  Only if it were that simple (0+ / 0-)

    And of course it should be. Elect the person that promises' you progress and you get that, ahem, change. But, by in large, it is  the common/uncommon citizen that spoke out protested, put his life on the line and sometimes perished in his effort for change, that has coerced politicians of the past, often kicking and screaming, to the table of reform.
    Hopefully we are in an new era where people vote with enlightened minds and politicians hold reverently hold to their promises...ohhhh never mind.

    one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK

    by Klick2con10ue on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 07:34:32 AM PST

  •  Jen, Please Please send to Russell Brand w/Love (3+ / 0-)
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    From an attractive woman - so I suppose he won't be able to turn your message down :)

    Thanks for your awesome comics!

    T'd R'd and Shared.

    Happy Election Day everyone.

  •  But now that they know... (1+ / 0-)
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    The scary thing is that now that the Republicans know what's going on, they know exactly how to demolish all our plans.

    They just need to go to their corporate friends and say, "Can you voluntarily pay people a bit more money? Not a fortune; just enough to insure that they won't need to rely on the government for health care or education or other kinds of assistance. And while you're at it, can you come up with enough new jobs so we can get the unemployment rate back under 4%? If you don't have any real work that needs doing, just add the extra people to your customer service departments."

    If most people are able to live their whole lives comfortably without relying on government programs, then the Democrats won't be able to bribe people with them. This is so obvious that I can't believe that the Republicans haven't started doing this already. Maybe they're trying to lure us into a false sense of complacency so they can spring this on us as an "October Surprise" in 2016?

    •  They're too short-sighted and selfish, not to... (0+ / 0-)

      ...mention blinded by their false but self-serving ideology.
      Henry Ford was farsighted enough to see that it was in his own long-term interest to pay his employees double the prevailing wage at the time -- because not only would they work better, harder, more reliably, and more effectively for him, but that was the only way they could afford to buy his products.
      But Henry Ford is gone -- and 3-4 billion Chinese, Indians, Africans, and South Americans will buy a lot more than 200 million formerly-middle-class Americans ever could.
      Improvement in wages -- and thus the economy as a whole -- will come only by a combination of labor action and legislation.

  •  Well, when you come right down to it. (2+ / 0-)
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    That's exactly the way it works. In the purest form, we are in fact buying what we want, with our votes.
    It's actually the theory of the open market applied in a situation where everyone has the same effective wealth, that is, we all own one unit of the relevant currency, a vote. We are going to use that vote to get the most we can for it, however we decide to measure that.
    What corrupts our politics is the importance of money, which adds a second relevant currency to the equation, one that is not distributed equally.
    The Republicans find the purest form, with equally distributed wealth and power, to be repugnant, since they equate your monetary wealth with your worth.

  •  Give voters ROI on their taxes (3+ / 0-)
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    What a scam!  These people who work and pay taxes expects the government to do more than fight wars and subsidize corporations.  What are we?  Denmark*??

    *The happiest country on Earth where the middle class pays the same tax rate in America but where they get universal health care, a clean environment and affordable universities.

  •  Give us guns and we'll vote for you (1+ / 0-)
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    Of course, it is very bad to bride the public for votes.

    Conservatives would never vote for anyone just because the politician promised making buying and using guns quicker and easier!!

    "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

    by Hugh Jim Bissell on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 07:55:38 AM PST

  •  Promote the General Welfare (2+ / 0-)
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    Ensure Justice, Secure the Blessings of's all a Maxist plot to destroy America.

  •  We had Christie running 8% ahead (2+ / 0-)
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    with likely voters a week ago. Big surprise since he was up 30% against a generic Democrat six months ago.

    Not a big sample. Reasonably stratified for geography.

    Looked like Buono did a good job without going seriously negative. She had way less money compared to Christie.

  •  Hard to see how this differs (0+ / 0-)

    from putting a military base or MIC plant in every district.

    The power of the Occupy movement is that it ....realizes a fundamental truth about American politics… there is no way to vote against the interests of Goldman Sachs.

    by orson on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 08:47:33 AM PST

  •  I don't understand how (0+ / 0-)

    they get a way with calling the american worker a lazy slob who would just as soon loll about on the Government doll.  We are a hard working people.  Our GDP per hour worked is among the best in the world.  Our standard of living and our productivity is among the best.  When jobs are plentiful, our unemployment is near zero.   We are a productive hard-working people.  It amazes me that people buy this line of thinking.

    •  They have to pretend that workers are lazy slobs (0+ / 0-)

      whose productivity has not gone up for decades in order to justify stealing all of the productivity gains that workers have achieved over several decades.

      They have to pretend that workers are lazy, greedy slobs in order to justify any and all anti-union legislation, such as Right-to-Work-for-Less laws and destroying pension benefits.

      They have to pretend that not having to pay income tax, and qualifying for Medicaid, WIC, SNAP (food stamps) or whatever when you have a full-time job (or two!) means you are a lazy, mooching Taker, so of course we don't need to raise the minimum wage to the point where workers would start to pay income tax because that would fix the problem.

      They have to pretend that workers, particularly minorities, women, and immigrants are lazy, no-good leeches on society to justify all of the rest of the oppressions against minorities, women, and immigrants. And anybody else who comes handy.

      And on top of that, they have to pretend that they aren't doing any of it.

      Like John Boehner saying that we don't have to outlaw rampant anti-gay employment discrimination in 29 states with ENDA because it's already illegal everywhere. [sic] And, of course, gays are the laziest moochers of all, as you can tell by their tireless efforts to advance the gay agenda of giving themselves every kind of special right that nobody else has, and to bring down all of civilization on our heads by forcing all the rest of us into their sick, perverted, twisted lifestyle.

      And so on.

      Also, Obama is forcing the gay agenda on everybody by not signing an executive order to bar anti-gay discrimination by Federal contractors. Or something.


      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 06:41:50 PM PST

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  •  If you can delude yourself into believing (0+ / 0-)

    that healthcare should be just another profit- making scheme then you can pretty much make yourself O.K. with shutting down government and defaulting on the debt. I can certainly see why Republicans would see good government as a scam.

  •  It's almost like people don't WANT to starve (1+ / 0-)
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    The thing is, if the government doesn't provide things that people need then you either have to have a massive minimum wage so everyone can afford them, or else accept that your country will be a third world nation with a vast majority of people living in squalor.  It seems like the republicans opt for that last choice.

  •  I live in one of those deep red congressional (0+ / 0-)

    districts they talk about in that report. It's the 8th congressional district in northwest Arizona.

    It is impossible to get across the idea to the tea party crazies that corporate subsidies and massive across the board tax cuts are bribes to the wealthiest among us. One of the tea party crazies favorite ideas is to end subsidies for everyone, including corporations. Well, what then I ask? Well, then we have massive across the board federal tax cuts to shrink the federal government. Well, then what I ask? The tea party crazy response is everything the federal government does will be turned over to the states. OK then, I say, can you say massive tax increases at the state level? DUUUHHH!

    Knowledge is Power. Ignorance is not bliss, it is suffering. If you like hypocrite Obama, you'll love hypocrite Hillary.

    by harris stein on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 09:20:37 AM PST

  •  So, then, they obviously prefer a kick in the (0+ / 0-)

    teeth? Is that what they want from their elected Tea Party representatives? It's certainly what they're getting.

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