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There is a lot of talk lately about bullying and about how we must prevent bullying in our schools. Sometimes kids who kill in school are responding to being bullied and they get very mad about it and decide that they will kill people to settle the score. Always there is an outcry against bullying and about how we must protect kids from bullying.

What people seldom, if ever, seem to mention, is that our society rewards bullying and that bullying between adults happens every day all the time. Kids see it and they copy adult behavior.

What do you call it when some people, usually rich, get to make a living from the work of other people, usually poor, on such unequal terms that the poor are unable to even pay their bills, eat, and buy proper medical care for their family?

It makes the kind of bullying we hear about at schools seem like, well, child's play, which it is. It's bullying of adults, by adults, for the very requirements of life. It has no place in a fair and civilized society and we must rid our society of it if we expect children to stop bullying and even killing each other.

If you call yourself a Christian, like so many Americans do, this is something that you should not tolerate. Of course you don't need to be a Christian to recognize that it's wrong to treat people like beasts of burden who can be exploited to unfairly enrich others.

Recently it has come to the nation's attention that some big companies like Walmart and McDonald's pay such low wages to some employees that those people are actually eligible for food stamps and other forms of government aid. Even then, they don't have enough money for basics like medical treatment. The very fact that they are eligible for government aid is an indication of how low their wages are.

Sometimes the very people responsible, like the Walmart family, call themselves "Christians" but it does not stop them from paying very low wages to their workers even though it is possible for them to pay better wages and still make a fair profit. There are other companies, like Costco, that are able to pay a substantially higher wage and still make a healthy profit. How is it that these "Christians" are so unable to do that? It doesn't sound very Christian of them.

If we want kids to stop bullying we need to stop adults from bullying each other first. Kids see what we do. They know that the adult bullies have better jobs, make more money, buy better clothes and toys for their kids, live in better houses, and get to take nice vacations. If we want kids to stop showing up at schools with guns, we need to get them to see that we, as adults, can stop bullying each other and treat each other more fairly.

Not everyone who makes a good wage is a bully. You do not have to be a bully to succeed in America. There are many rich people who make a lot of money without being bullies. But some companies are set up so that the bullies are the winners and the workers end up being the losers. It's time we started identifying companies that are bullies and ask tell them to improve their treatment of workers. We need to start boycotting companies that bully. We need to band together into groups and tell them to pay a living wage.

That's where unions come in. Unions allow people to band together to bargain for better conditions and wages for their workers. Maybe you've seen the bumper sticker that reminds us that weekends were brought to us by the unions. That's a definite fact. Unions brought us other things too, like safer work environments, better health care for workers, the ability to fight unfair charges, and of course, higher wages.

If you are a poor person you need to do one thing right now. You need to turn off FOX News and you need to start organizing with your fellow workers for the life that you deserve. Band together to stand up to the bullies that are depriving you of a fair living so that they can live like kings of old on your labor. And please, stop voting Republican. The whole Republican program is based on killing unions and legitimizing the victimization of the poor by the rich. The Democrats are far from perfect but they are currently the only group that has enough power to help the poor. Vote Democrat.

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  •  molepost - My advice to new registered (8+ / 1-)

    members is to write 100 comments before you post your first diary. However, you have already posted your first diary so I'll encourage you to write 100 comments before you post another one. By writing 100 comments you will much better understand your audience and learn a little about our community. One other suggestion I would encourage you to monitor this, or any other, diary you publish here and respond to every question or comment people leave in your diary. That's how you build a following.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 06:17:38 PM PST

    •  I sent JRElliott a kosmail inviting him back to (4+ / 0-)

      this comment section to explain his HR on my comment (something now required under the new rules).

      I have seem many inappropriate HRs in my long tenure here, but this one is truly shocking.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 07:32:57 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  VClib - my advice to you is don't be so critical. (12+ / 0-)

      The diary was paragraphed, punctuated and worded well. It was properly identified as being published elsewhere. It had a unique take on issues. Yet you launch into some crazy new rule initiation process. WTF.

      Descending on a first diary of a new user is what might be described as bullying behavior if you think about it. You got a UID one decimal place lower than his so you get to make up this 100 comment rule? Do you send that out to every new user? When did you start initiating new users with the 100 comment rule?

      You must be very busy. it's still growing at a rate of roughly 15,000 subscribers per week without showing any signs of slowing. You are posting quite a few welcome wagon 100-comment-rule comments, but nothing near 15,000 per week. Better get busy. You bit off quite a big bite pulling this welcome wagon rule.

      Why is it easier to buy a gun than it is to register to vote in most states?

      by 88kathy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 03:47:49 AM PST

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      •  re:VClib - my advice to you is don't be so critica (7+ / 0-)

        Thanks for your comment. I don't mind his advice but I did think that the point of my article should have been what was important here. When I wrote the diary no such rule came up on the writing interface.

        I actually was just writing this down and was going to come back to it and write some more, but then suddenly a bunch of people saw it. How did they find it?

        •  When you write your diary you can save a (1+ / 0-)
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          draft or publish. I am not sure how to save as a draft. But when you hit the publish button, you get three choices Now, Later, or to a Group.  Evidently you hit Publish Now and it came up on the RECENT DIARY scroll to your right.

          There are how to diaries published from time to time. Maybe VC could keep a list of those links, that would be truly helpful.

          Hopefully someone who has the links will stumble on this thread.

          PS people get all wrapped up with their user ID, the numbered order which they signed on. The founder is 4. And most everyone else is above that. In the next generation, user ID's are going to be lost. Your user ID appears when you mouse over a userName. It appears in the lower left corner of the page.

          Why is it easier to buy a gun than it is to register to vote in most states?

          by 88kathy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 04:39:40 AM PST

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          •  You have to actually hit the publish button (1+ / 0-)
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            If you save it but do not hit the publish button, then it will be saved to your draft box. You can go back and edit any diary as a draft or as a published piece.

            Welcome aboard molepost.

            Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training (Zed, MIB).

            by GreenMother on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 06:57:42 AM PST

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          •  VCLib didn't mean a 'rule' (2+ / 0-)
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            Of course their is no rule.   And, just point of fact, I've never cared a lick about user IDs.  It's a meaningless number because who knows someone could lurk forever, be a troll forever, or whatever.

            The reason why people like to see a comment history is because when someone posts a diary (especially one that is cross posted from elsewhere) we have no way to know anything at all about the author.

            Part of Kos or any community site is having a basic idea of who the author is.  That's hard when there are no comments/etc.  

            Like I said, I think we're all glad to have new diarists post here; it's great.   But we also want to encourage them to become participants in the community.  That's all ;)

            I thought VCLib's comment was not in any way an attack or anything against the author, just passive advice to help make that author's future participation better.

            That's all.

            Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

            by Chris Reeves on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:35:15 AM PST

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            •  If VC wants to do that sort of thing, probably (2+ / 0-)
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              Meteor Blades, navajo

              the next step would be to join. New Diarists Group

              Lots of knowledgeable people there.

              While at times knowing about the author is a clue to a troll diary, I think this diary from its content was clearly not a troll diary.

              VC was complaining bitterly about the hide rate. Maybe his good intentions were not a clear as he would have liked.

              Why is it easier to buy a gun than it is to register to vote in most states?

              by 88kathy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 09:53:10 AM PST

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        •  OK I just found it. I did a test diary. Title, (0+ / 0-)

          text, tags. Then I left without saving it.

          Then In the Square at the top right where it says Diaries - new - drafts. I clicked on drafts and there it was. Ready to be worked on some more.

          I guess it is not so easy to lose a diary as it was a long time ago. That was a heart breaker. Writing a diary and then losing the whole thing.

          Why is it easier to buy a gun than it is to register to vote in most states?

          by 88kathy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 04:46:23 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  This is wrong advice. (0+ / 0-)
            I guess it is not so easy to lose a diary as it was a long time ago. That was a heart breaker. Writing a diary and then losing the whole thing.
            I haven't lost a diary in a while, but usually put them in Word because, I have lost them in the past, and by my directions above, it is easy to say why.

            Why is it easier to buy a gun than it is to register to vote in most states?

            by 88kathy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 09:59:19 AM PST

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        •  There is no rule for first, or any diaries (0+ / 0-)

          I was only passing along some advice from someone who has been here a long time. Commenting in other diaries is how you get to know the community and how they get to know you. I wasn't at all critical of your diary, how it was written, or the content.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:14:46 AM PST

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        •  Hi, molepost! (4+ / 0-)
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          smileycreek, elfling, BeninSC, navajo

          Thanks for sharing your thoughts here!

          About your diary being "found": when you preview a diary, that also saves the draft. If you preview your draft and have no more changes to make at that time, all you have to do is close the tab and go away. (It feels weird to just close it, but if you have previewed after your last changes, it truly has been saved!) You will find it again in your Drafts folder when you're ready to go back to it. There is no need to click the "Publication Manager" button until you're ready to post it for others to see.

          If you're working on something and have questions or would like some guidance, please feel free to send a Daily Kos message to the New Diarists group. That group is all about giving new Kossacks any kind of help they may need to present their ideas to the community in the form they envision.


          Shop Kos Katalogue ❧ Help Okiciyap at Cheyenne River reservation.

          by belinda ridgewood on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 01:45:40 PM PST

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      •  Yes, having a 100 comment rule before you (0+ / 0-)

        can publish a diary would be pure craziness.

        In that case, I'd know next to nothing about big ass rock crushers and double anus autoclaves.

        And my life would be poorer for it.

      •  It's not a rule, it's advice (0+ / 0-)

        I think that people who take the time to read other diaries, and comment, write better diaries because they know more about their audience. It also provides more context to their diaries when you can go back and read their comments. No one has to follow the advice. The basic suggestion is to engage the community, not just view it as a place to drop a diary now and then.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:12:01 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Well I guess I should probably remove my T&R (0+ / 0-)

      then.  Oh well, I have 24 hours to make that decision so no big deal.

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 04:30:18 AM PST

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    •  ...there is no rule regarding the need... (5+ / 0-)

      ...to post 100 comments before posting a diary. There have been many in the past few months who have posted wonderful diaries as their first interaction here on DKos.

      I suggest being kind towards new folks unless they do something truly snotty or egregious. Perhaps suggesting a new diarist go to Welcome New Users or New Diarist would be a more gracious way to respond...

      Oh, I used to be disgusted
      Now I try to be amused
      ~~ Elvis Costello

      by smileycreek on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:29:40 PM PST

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    •  I have to say that commenting on a user's... (4+ / 0-)
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      navajo, elfling, smileycreek, BeninSC

      ....first diary with what feels to me a scolding tone is precisely the wrong way to welcome a new user. It seems particularly out of place when the diarist makes a good case for his or her point of view and joins in comments. It's also problematic when the first comment works to hijack much of the comment thread instead of dealing with the substance of the diary.

      We have an entire team—Partners & Mentors—that has been established by navajo and approved by Markos, which is doing an excellent job of handling welcoming duties.

      It is true, as you say, that we want diarists to participate in comments in their own diaries and others', not just use Daily Kos as a link to drive traffic to their own blogs or other sites where they have posted. But the diarist here did not do that. In fact, s/he has behaved quite appropriately in every way.

      DKos admin appreciates it when Kossacks welcome new users. But those welcomes should be welcoming not off-putting.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 02:12:58 PM PST

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      •  re:I have to say that commenting on a user's... (0+ / 0-)

        As long as people aren't out right flaming me I have no problems with anything said. but I do appreciate all the people, like yourself, that are standing up for me too.

        It is good though that we are not stuck in the same stilted rules of order from days gone by. I like to hear all sides.

    •  FTR, I think the HR is out of place. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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      smileycreek, VClib

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 02:14:15 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Welcome aboard. (5+ / 0-)

    First, congrats on your first diary.

    Second, I concur with VCLib, work to participate.

    And finally, While I welcome you to Kos, reposting a blog post you've done at Molepost as you first post is not necessarily a great way to join, people will wonder if you are trying to spam or raise attention for you own site.

    Still, stick around.  Kick back.  Join in the conversation.  We are a community that (tries) to welcome new people, and we hope you'll stay to contribute.   You might find it a pleasant stay :)

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

    by Chris Reeves on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 06:44:05 PM PST

  •  Thanks for posting here. I enjoyed the diary (8+ / 0-)

    and wouldn't have seen it at molepost.  So I for one am glad that you "broke" the (nowhere stated to my knowledge, and seemingly arbitrary) "rule" that you should post 100 comments before posting a diary.

    •  No one said anything about a "rule". VClib (2+ / 0-)
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      gramofsam1, VClib

      said her/his "advice" is to write 100 comments before posting a diary.

      "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

      by rubyr on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 09:31:42 PM PST

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      •  As we are getting 15,000 new users a day VC (0+ / 0-)

        must be quite busy with his welcome wagon basket of advice.

        Why is it easier to buy a gun than it is to register to vote in most states?

        by 88kathy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 03:51:23 AM PST

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      •  Thank you rubyr!!!! (2+ / 0-)
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        rubyr, tmservo433

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:16:29 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  I'm sorry that you are being treated this way. nt (2+ / 0-)
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          tmservo433, VClib

          "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

          by rubyr on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:23:08 AM PST

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          •  rubyr - thank you for your thoughtful comment (1+ / 0-)
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            rubyr

            The HR isn't a big deal. I seem to receive one about every 5,000 comments. However, the notion that my comment was so harmful that it need to be hidden is nonsensical.

            88kathy and I have very different views on most public policy issues and she takes it personally. You and I also have very different views as well and I appreciate your understanding that it is not personal. I enjoy the civil debate here and that is why I have been a long time participant. I try hard to not make my comments personal and to make my comments in a respectful tone. That's why I find the HRs surprising.  

            Thanks again.

            "let's talk about that"

            by VClib on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 08:02:32 AM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  I agree. You and I do have very different views, (1+ / 0-)
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              VClib

              but that has nothing to do with this at all. Civility (not that I always manage it, as everyone knows) is important. Also, no one deserves to be treated rudely when they are really trying to help. That HR is absurd.  

              I am trying very hard to reserve my true ire for the maniac Teabaggers and the insane Republican party that supports them and pretends not to.

              Also, though I hate to admit it, I often learn a lot from people who do not view the world as I do. I almost always learn more from opposing forces. ha

              "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

              by rubyr on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 08:30:45 AM PST

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    •  re:Thanks for posting here. I enjoyed the diary (2+ / 0-)
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      88kathy, tmservo433

      Thanks for your comments. I did not know of such rules either. I have been reading DailyKos for a long time but only recently thought of posting here.

      I am guilty of not reading the guidelines but I am really busy and wanted to share this. Frankly I did not expect so much response. I am not sure how people manage to see things so quickly that people post.

      •  As we've said :) (1+ / 0-)
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        I think most of us are always glad for new people who want to participate.  And there are no such rules.

        Imagine it far more like a 'guideline to be effective'.  People have a tendency to listen to, and value the advice of, people they know better then people they don't know at all.

        VCLib's post (and mine) weren't in any way aimed to make you feel uncomfortable or to get you away from posting.  In fact, I'm sure most of the people here hope you continue to participate... we also know there are lots of ways for you to build up a level of respect for your opinions, and the easiest way to do that is actively participate.

        So, that's all :)   As I said above, welcome aboard, and we hope you'll stay and participate for a long time to come.

        Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

        by Chris Reeves on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:39:20 AM PST

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  •  molepost: Bullies ARE NOT winners, they (1+ / 0-)
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    are bullies.

    "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

    by rubyr on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 09:32:39 PM PST

    •  RE: molepost: Bullies ARE NOT winners, etc (2+ / 0-)
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      coldwynn, GreenMother

      They are not winners in a moral sense, no, But are the Walmart people losers or are their workers the losers? Seems like the Walmart family are the winners here.

      If the battle is defined as who wins the cheese here, then yes, bullies are the winners in AMerica and we actually encourage such behavior in adults.

      •  Sad you state it as you do. It does not send a (0+ / 0-)

        good message. Maybe bullies are winners by Republican standards, that does not make them real winners and is a bad meme if our goal is to try and establish a shred of decency in this sad country.

        I do not view the Waltons (Walmart people) as winners. I view them as rot.

        Different people see the world differently, that's what makes it interesting, but like my neighbor says, words are important and to call these evil actors "winners" seems to me to be counterproductive.

        Thanks for responding.  

        "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

        by rubyr on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 05:14:11 AM PST

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        •  re:Sad you state it as you do (0+ / 0-)

          You must not get stuck in the notion that "winners" are necessarily good people. Most words have various meanings and in this case, the point is that our society rewards economic bullying with better jobs, more money, better houses, etc. That means, to a bully, they are winning by bullying.

          Meanwhile, the worker is the loser because they are left without enough to even feed their families, buy medical care, and save for retirement.

          Perhaps I should expand the article to say that bullies are rewarded, rather than saying bullies are winners?

        •  Molepost has the opportunity to reflect on the (2+ / 0-)
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          contents of this diary and refine it for another one later. After all, writing is a creative process and sometimes you just have to get the initial thought out and get feedback before you can improve on your delivery or language.

          It can take time to create the appropriate word combinations that express nuances like that.

          For now, moleposts description is legitimate since this society in general is very materialistic, and since this society also adheres to the Protestant Work ethic, then yes, acquired goods and status are reflected as signs of moral goodness and divine favor.

          We know that is mostly BS, but some people feel comfortable utilizing that system at our expense because it's already in place, it's convenient, and it reinforces their success in that system.

          Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training (Zed, MIB).

          by GreenMother on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:01:23 AM PST

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          •  Agreed, GreenMother. My point is that it is not (2+ / 0-)
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            GreenMother, molepost

            good for progressives/Dems/liberals to reinforce their success in that system by defining it as "winning." That meme is especially damaging to children, as it tells them that being an asshole is a good thing because you are "winning".

            I meant no offense to molepost and I think he/she and I had a good discussion.

            "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

            by rubyr on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 08:01:33 AM PST

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            •  I didn't feel that meme was being reinforced (2+ / 0-)
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              rubyr, molepost

              but rather picked apart, or at least frowned upon.

              Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training (Zed, MIB).

              by GreenMother on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 02:20:06 PM PST

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              •  The title, which is what people see when they (0+ / 0-)

                troll the site for "liberal" news, reinforced the meme, for sure.

                "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

                by rubyr on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 03:22:04 PM PST

                [ Parent ]

                •  It wouldn't be the first diary that explores (0+ / 0-)

                  stereotypes and labeling, nor the first to use them as examples or even ironically.

                  It's okay if you don't like the diary for any reason at all, however some of us respectfully disagree.

                  Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training (Zed, MIB).

                  by GreenMother on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 06:41:08 PM PST

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                  •  You have pointed out that you do not (0+ / 0-)

                    agree with me several times. I don't care. I had a good interchange with the diarist who was the person I addressed the issue with. I think you want to fight and show everyone how smart you think you are. I'm not into it.

                    If it's used ironically, then the title should be quoted.

                    "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

                    by rubyr on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:03:36 PM PST

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    •  people bully to win. I see it every day (1+ / 0-)
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      Yoshimi

      Around my neck of the woods the schools have "anti-bullying committees." Unfortunately some of the parents on these committees are cliquish and borderline bullies themselves.

      An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

      by mightymouse on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 05:29:37 AM PST

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      •  re:people bully to win. I see it every day (1+ / 0-)
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        mightymouse

        Yes, I think that bullying is something that the US grew up on. If you look at most of the "captains of industry" you see a model where there is one big king of the pack telling everyone else what to do and taking the lion's share of the profits.

        Luckily we are seeing the development of a new business model coming from California based on collaboration and respect. Although some of the big California companies are also bullies.

        I worked for years at a consulting company where all the consultants were making 100K+ bu I found out that all the clerical people were making really tiny wages while being worked to death.

    •  re:molepost: Bullies ARE NOT winners, they (0+ / 0-)

      I decided that you are right and I changed the title accordingly..

      Thanks for the input.

  •  In Germany, the equivalent is a 1950s DGB poster. (1+ / 0-)
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    Maybe you've seen the bumper sticker that reminds us that weekends were brought to us by the unions.
    http://www.planet-wissen.de/...

    DGB = Deutsche Gewerkschaftsbund (German Labor Union Federation).

    The little kid is saying "Samstags gehört Vati mir" = "Saturdays, Daddy belongs to me", a slogan for legal changes giving workers Saturdays off (in the era of the post-war German "economic miracle" where the standard work week was 6 days / 48 hours).
    http://www.planet-wissen.de/...

    The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ♥ ♥ ♥ Forget Neo — The One is Minori Urakawa

    by lotlizard on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:37:59 AM PST

  •  When unions were much stronger, there was (0+ / 0-)

    still lots of bullying. More than there is now. So unions won't help in this matter.

    •  RE: When unions were much stronger, etc (0+ / 0-)

      Unions will help in making it easier for workers to get economic justice and hence, be less affected by economic bullying.

      •  Unions certainly help but not in bullying. (0+ / 0-)

        Unless you want to call every problem bullying.

        •  re:Unions certainly help but not in bullying (0+ / 0-)

          Not every problem, but there are a lot of problems that are, in one way or another, bullying in some way or form.

          There are a lot of other problems that are not bullying - like communication problems despite honest attempts to make meaningful contact with each other.

          Everything is nothing but the One Mind, besides which, nothing exists.

          by molepost on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:03:27 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  I don't think this is true for the most part. (0+ / 0-)

    I don't think bullying and capitalism are related phenomena, and I think bullies only achieve success in one relatively narrow field, big business.  It's an important field in our society, unfortunately, but still it's just one.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 04:55:44 AM PST

    •  re:I don't think this is true for the most part (0+ / 0-)

      I think that I do make it clear that capitalism does not necessarily require bullying, as my example of Costco shows. But I do seriously believe that Walmart's behavior in paying low wages to their employees and their heavy handed management tactics are very much like the bully who steals a kids lunch money.

  •  You've done a great job of responding (4+ / 0-)

    to comments on your first diary, molepost.

    According to kos' diary on Community Guidelines there is no problem with cross-posting your diary from elsewhere:

    2. Crossposting.
    If you wrote it, we don't care where you post it. So feel free to take your own blog's content and slap it up on Daily Kos, including a link to your own blog. However, take note of the spamming restrictions above.
    Hope to read more from you in the future. Welcome!
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    Oh, I used to be disgusted
    Now I try to be amused
    ~~ Elvis Costello

    by smileycreek on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:15:26 PM PST

  •  I liked your diary very much (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    smileycreek, BeninSC, navajo, houyhnhnm

    Thank you for sharing it with us here.

    I added the tag education, because bullying is often an issue that comes up in schools, and always seems to need more insight.

    Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

    by elfling on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 02:49:52 PM PST

  •  Nobody likes a bully (except another bully) (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    smileycreek

    Once upon a time the US (or so we liked to think) stood up for the little guy. It's why an everyman (or mouse) like Mickey was a national hero or Bugs Bunny could outsmart palookas 3 times his size.

    I hope those days haven't left us altogether; hopefully our days of idolizing Schwarzeneggerian tough guys are coming to an end. When I see a movie like Captain America and I hear Steve Rogers say "I don't want to kill anyone - I don't like bullies" I like to think there's still hope for our country.

    Of course the right is panicking - they know it's their end of days...

    by Miscweant on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 03:26:59 PM PST

    •  re:Nobody likes a bully (except another bully) (0+ / 0-)

      The US was founded on noble ideals which were almost immediately largely ignored while the government connived with big money to sell off large tracts of land to wealthy interests. It is explained by historians as the need of a new country to get development launched with deep pockets and those pockets needed to be motivated to spend.

      So we had Manifest Destiny, genocide against the natives, exploitation of African slaves divorced from their cultural heritage, and the industrial revolution with legalized slave labor.

      But buried in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are some noble ideals that far outstripped the sentiments of the time they were written.

      It is only now that we are starting to approach those ideals, and the end is still far off. But the democratization the Internet empowers will bring in a new era and we are ever coming closer to the ideals that will someday, with our work and activism, create the country that the US can be.

      Let us all work together to create that country and let us not be afraid of the big right wing engine. Our masses will sweep away their day and bring about a new dawn.

      Hail the revolution of the US!

  •  I'd go one step further (0+ / 0-)

    Bullying is part of the culture of schools and it begins at the very top.  I've actually heard an administrator tell a teacher "shit doesn't run uphill" in so many words.

    It's completely disingenuous of school administrators to say they want to do something about bullying (and the kids know it).  They need to start with themselves.

    Light is seen through a small hole.

    by houyhnhnm on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 05:43:00 PM PST

  •  Good point. (0+ / 0-)

    Yes, it is pretty much about bullying, and the fact that the right wing wealthy love to do it, just because they can.

    They want to tell others to jump just to see if they do it, and have others say "how high?" It's a power trip.



    Women create the entire labor force.
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    Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

    by splashy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 06:20:32 PM PST

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