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When you have one party intentionally throwing a wrench in the works and both state and federal level.

When you have a whole noise machine rejoicing at the slightest snag.

When you have insurance companies throwing a wrench in the works due to having to scrap junk insurance and cover those with pre-existing conditions, when all they want to do is; insure the healthy and abandon the sick as soon as possible.

When not one among them has the slightest intention nor an inkling of how to make health care work in the US.


There were 47million +/- people without any form of health insurance.

Medical bankruptcy was a fact of life.

These inefficiencies coupled with the most expensive medical system in the world were an abomination in a developed democracy.

The fact that an African American President might try and even succeed in trying to reform this system brought out the very worst in our society and exposed:




For all the world to see in vivid technicolor.

The mainstream media has been shown to be a tool of the corporate elite and nothing more; they don't merit the protection of the first amendment in my mind.

I don't like the Affordable Care Act, I never did, but it is a small step in the right direction towards universal or single payer health care.

I must admit that I thought that when passed at least the Teahadist Party in DC might just try and govern.

No, what we have is an all out temper tantrum by the health care corporations, the pathetic corporate press and a bunch of good for nothings in DC.

None of them have provided any idea on how to improve health care; either before or after the passing of the ACA. Just the same crappy expensive economic minefield of the past which left so many millions of America on the edge.

The glee shown in the problems is disgusting.

The political vandalism caused by this ideological and racially driven effort to stop the ACA, even if it means causing economic ruin is despicable.

If they have a better idea, then they should spit it out.

If not get out the fucking way and stop behaving as spoilt brats by trying to sabotage a reform that needed to be done decades ago.

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  •  Tip Jar. Just my 2 cents looking at this fiasco (30+ / 0-)

    from afar

    "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

    by LaFeminista on Thu Nov 21, 2013 at 11:32:21 AM PST

  •  A common error.... (2+ / 0-)
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    sillycarrot, radmul

    The diarist writes: "I don't like the Affordable Care Act, I never did, but it is a small step in the right direction towards universal or single payer health care."

    In my view, ACA takes us further from single payer.  If you mean nationalized care such as in Great Brittan this would require ending private practices where specialists can make 7 figures and give them a civil service salary.  And then what about hospitals that have gained in capital value since ACA.  We do not confiscate those entities, as they would have to be purchased at trillions of dollars.

    We do need a medical safety net, yet ACA was sold on illusions of equality of care, which if anything we are going away from.  The exchange policies have lessor quality providers, which you can google on NYTimes article today.  And then theirs concierge practice, which subverts Medicare and would do so for a universal Medicare, as it siphons off the most competent providers.  You can see how this works here.

    No, with ACA we have enshrined the current system, with cost projections that has never been realistic.  And far too much of it will not be for the benefits we all desire such as--no medical bankruptcy, preventive care, etc that has been touted.  

    The difficulties with the exchange signup has shifted focus to such real issues, and as much as I've tried on my personal website, and even getting an article on a national publication, we have succumbed into a partisan perspective that is obviating the chance to really see how this is working and where its going.

  •  Tipped & rec'ed & the evil RW TGOP can go back (2+ / 0-)
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    sillycarrot, LaFeminista

    To hell. Their demon god rotten Ronnie is waiting.

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Thu Nov 21, 2013 at 01:15:11 PM PST

  •  A different perspecive (3+ / 0-)
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    Odysseus, isabelle hayes, LaFeminista

    Due to pre-existing conditions and self employment I have had to run up scary amounts of medical debt in the last few years while only being able to get minimal medical care.
    My ACA policy is a bridge over troubled times for me - for the next 4 years until I qualify for Medicare.
    I know many folks out there are in the same boat.

    It is a lifeline for us - The worry that it is going to work so well we will never be able to improve or change the system forevermore  again is misplaced.

    If this thing goes down, it will be a long time coming before anyone tries again, pushing a single payer system even further down the road.

  •  Interesting times, as in the Chinese curse (4+ / 0-)

    I'm in favor of the ACA if for no other reason than it's going to provide expanded medicare for a lot of people.  It's going to flat out save lives, and it's hard not to be in favor of that.

    As far as the GOP goes, the war is on.  The main thing that gives me hope about the current filibuster reform is that maybe, just maybe, Democrats are starting to accept that the Republicans are no longer a party that's trying to govern in good faith, but rather they're trying to...I don't even know what.  Get paid, I expect, because I think greedy is always more likely than evil, although there is surely a good portion of evil in the racist sexist paranoid gun-stroking base.  

  •  Not that I disagree, but (4+ / 0-)




    For all the world to see...

    Where's Classism?
    The assault on ACA has been an assault on poor people, of all colors and genders. Rich people of all colors and genders are served to one degree or another, but the poor and working classes, the struggling classes are targeted.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Thu Nov 21, 2013 at 02:19:26 PM PST

  •  They don't have a better idea... they don't even (2+ / 0-)
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    NonnyO, LaFeminista

    have a fucking clue.

    The GOP is a fucking joke.

    My tin-foil hat brother, who hated Obamacare and anything that any Democrat likes, is singing a different tune now that he has just been treated (successfully) for cancer.  Preexisting conditions change you.

    Interesting how when this stuff strikes close to home, perspectives change.

    The GOP sucks... and not in the good way...

    Radical Activist Homosexual Agenda: 1. Equality 2. See #1

    by skip945 on Thu Nov 21, 2013 at 05:51:10 PM PST

  •  I favor the not-for-profit single-payer... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... system used in the Scandinavian countries.  ACA is useless crap that will give insurance, medical, and pharmaceutical corporations windfall profits (it already started with Medicare Part D which passed under Dumbya when seniors and disabled were told 'buy this corporate insurance or else' - ACA has "buy this corporate insurance or pay a fine").

    The Scandinavian countries hold the belief that everyone has a RIGHT to good health care.  This covers health care and prescriptions (think someone said also optometry and dental, but I'm less certain about those ~ I know one Norwegian who has problems with a diabetic condition who is presently in a health spa in Bavaria so their health system must be paying his way there but I haven't asked him about it).  No one ever goes bankrupt from medical costs and their family and friends don't have to throw fundraisers to help the family when they're hit with a catastrophic medical problem, be it a preemie child or cancer or some other horror.  All medical care is taken care of and the common people get the same medical care as the royal families.

    They also hold the belief that everyone has a RIGHT to a good education, and education is free from kindergarten through college.  If they don't live near a college that specializes in what they're studying, they get a government stipend that pays room and board so they can devote all their time to their studies.  No one leaves college burdened with student loans.

    Yes, the tax rate is high..., but, when asked, the people don't mind it because they all benefit from medical care or education and other services their taxes pay for one way or another.  [Oh, and corporations are not exempt from paying their fair share in taxes.  If they are found guilty of gouging people somehow, the penalties are strict and enforced.]  Oh, and Norway and Denmark have all their genealogy records online for free, thanks to the taxpayers in those countries (Norway's is the best and easiest to use; Denmark's is on two web sites, neither one of which is as easy to use as Norway's).  Sweden has turned their records over to corporations to put online.  The old images of microfilm records are online in a couple of places, and a new web site managed by a different corporation is making colored digital images of their old records and putting them online on a site where one must register to use it and pay for the service (the Java program they use sux, but the images are nice and would be nicer if the dpi were good enough to download a full page instead of just a portion).

    Best of all for new parents is the Paid Parental Leave for BOTH parents (it's very nearly mandatory) in the Scandinavian countries.  This video about Sweden's Paid Parental Leave is from a couple of years ago - it's mis-labeled as about Paternity Leave, but it also covers Maternity Leave, so it's technically about Paid Parental Leave.  The Paid Parental leave in Norway and Denmark is similar.

    Paid Parental Leave in America?  For multiple months?  We should be so lucky!!!  We can only dream of being such a civilized nation.  (Well, first we have to get all of our rights back that were taken away with Patriot Acts, MCA '06, FISA fiasco, MCA '09, etc....)

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 02:56:50 AM PST

    •  The French system is pretty good and you can (1+ / 0-)
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      also opt in to the private sector, my company pays my employees private sector add on as well.

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 12:47:20 PM PST

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