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Speaker of the House John Boehner speaking at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, DC.
The Republican fight against Obamacare is far from over, though they don't have a clear path to ending it at the moment. So right now it's throwing whatever they can think of out there to see what sticks, and at the moment going back to the furor over cancelled plans.
"It's official: #Obamacare debuts with more canceled plans than enrollments" http://t.co/... via @DailyCaller
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Boehner isn't the only Republican flogging this, with Sens. Marco Rubio (FL) and John Barrasso (WY) recently making the same claim. Is it true? Of course not.
On its face, this claim by the Daily Caller is wrong because the law included a significant expansion of Medicaid, which in just three months has added 3.9 million people to its rolls. The article also incorrectly assumes that everyone whose plan did not meet Affordable Care Act standards but who did not sign up for a plan via the exchanges has been left without coverage.

In reality, many people who received notices that their plans were canceled were told they would be automatically enrolled into another plan by the same insurance company. [...] In other words, the person's health plan was "canceled" but the person was not left "without coverage," as the Daily Caller asserted. There likely was a seamless transition from one plan to the other, though the premiums might have increased because the ACA requires all plans to have the same basic level of benefits.

But wait, Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck says, this isn't about whether or not people actually have insurance coverage—most of it is better than the catastrophic plans they were in—but that there were "more private plans canceled than private plans enrolled in Obamacare." Which is not what the Daily Caller article he links to says, that more people have lost coverage than gained it. And while Buck and Boehner might potentially technically correct, we don't know that yet since there's another three months of enrollment. And it's also pretty much bullshit because the real bottom line is that millions of people are getting better insurance.

The millions that really matter in this debate are the five million left out by Republican officials in red states who are refusing to expand Medicaid.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 08:08 AM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (18+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 08:08:09 AM PST

  •  Remember They Only Need to Reach Their Base (9+ / 0-)

    The rest of the country can think they're out of their friggin' minds, doesn't matter, it's a base election amplified by gerrymandering and disenfranchisement.

    Don't be surprised if the House repeals evolution this year.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 08:18:16 AM PST

  •  Cancellation Claims Are Blatantly False (1+ / 0-)
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    cocinero

    Of course these claims are blatantly false.  Again you have to look at the whole picture which includes those who will simply keep a modified version of their present non-group policy, those who might move from the non-group market to the ACA because they can receive subsidies through the exchanges but not the non-group market, those people with junk policies who might be getting really low rates but who will refuse to buy any decent level of coverage even if it is highly subsidized and an excellent deal because it will cost them somewhat more than the junk policies, and those previously uninsured people who will not get subsidies who will get their insurance through the non-group market since the non-group market gives them a wider choice of insurance and they can get a better deal in the non-group market than on the exchanges.  The last number is certainly very large since around 35% of the uninsured will probably not get subsidizes so around 2 or 3 million people or more might easily fall into last category.  

    If you run through these numbers using any reasonable set of assumptions, the amount of people actually losing coverage will be small and this will almost certainly be dwarfed by the number of people moving into the non-group market who are present uninsured.  However, since these numbers cannot be easily quantified until detailed surveys are taken of these various market segment, the Republican Party will use this as an opportunity to try to spread their distorted version of reality by twisting and distorting any reasonable representation of the facts in order to advance their political agenda.    

  •  I found this post about a Fort Worth Star Telegram (6+ / 0-)

    aritcle. I'm trying to stay within fair use so the whole post should be read to understand just how bad it is.

    Anatomy of an Obamacare ‘horror story’
    Texas daily went digging for victims of the ACA and Surprise! Reporter unearthed three Tea Partiers who hate the new law.

    By Maggie Mahar
    January 3, 2014

    ...

    Yesterday I posted about a Fort Worth Star Telegram article that leads with the tale of Whitney Johnson, a 26-year-old new mother who suffers from multiple sclerosis (MS). Her insurer just cancelled her policy, and according to Johnson, new insurance would cost her over $1,000 a month.

    That claim stopped me in my tracks. Under the ACA, no 26-year-old could be charged $1,000 monthly – even if she has MS.

    ...

    When I checked the exchange – plugging in Johnson’s county and her age – I soon found a Blue Choice Gold PPO plan priced at $332 monthly (just $7 more than she had been paying for the plan that was cancelled). Co-pays to see a primary care doctor would run just $10 ($50 to visit a specialist) and she would not have to pay down the $1,500 deductible before the insurance kicked in.

    Now I couldn’t help but wonder: Who are these folks in the Star-Telegram story? The paper profiled four people who supposedly had been hurt by Obamacare. When I Googled their names, I soon discovered that three (including Johnson) were Tea Party members.

    ...

    To my surprise, two hours later he called me back.

    He had just received an internal email, he told me, which revealed that Whitney Johnson had found affordable health insurance for $350 a month – just $25 more than the premium on her cancelled policy, and roughly what I thought she would pay in the exchange.

    Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

    by Mike S on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 09:30:43 AM PST

    •  I'm sure Ms. Johnson will assert... (0+ / 0-)

      ...that someone unlocked some secret, TEA Party-hacked "back door" of rates and plans reserved only for Gay Socialist Muslim Fundamentalist Undocumented Persons. :-p

      Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 04:34:36 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Yes, *definitely* read that whole linked article. (3+ / 0-)
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      Mike S, annominous, LMS44

      It's really an excellent exposé of how what is actually a multi-layer media failure — intentional or not — ends up sounding like an Obamacare failure.

      Something that continues to happen way too often.

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      by here4tehbeer on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 04:59:04 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  I've noticed... (1+ / 0-)
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      LMS44

      that almost all the right wing trolls on liberal blogs like Salon and TPM tell stories about how they lost their great insurance and everything on the exchanges is going to cost them thousands more.  

      What a coincidence that these folks in particular happen to be so negatively affected by the ACA!  

  •  Was a bit surprised to see Steve Schmidt (1+ / 0-)
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    Conium

    drinking the anti-Obamacare Kool-aid on MTP yesterday.  The GOP strategy for 2014 is to sell their version of reality about the state of the ACA and its relative intrusiveness.  Their belief is that there is a structural problem with the law.  Of course, the data say otherwise and that will be even more clear later this year, but that won't stop them from spreading lies and doing whatever possible to sabotage the law.

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    by khyber900 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 09:54:28 AM PST

  •  Rec'd and tipped (3+ / 0-)
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    La Gitane, annominous, LMS44

    especially for this last sentence: "The millions that really matter in this debate are the five million left out by Republican officials in red states who are refusing to expand Medicaid."

    The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right. Mark Twain

    by BlueMississippi on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 12:52:05 PM PST

  •  We need a mass pushback by people like us but I (0+ / 0-)

    don't see it yet.

    "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

    by Wildthumb on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 04:05:30 PM PST

  •  With GOP, nothing is going to be right for them. (0+ / 0-)

    Appreciate POTUS for choosing what is best for American people whenever he possibly can.

  •  Are there more cancelled plans or newly insured? (1+ / 0-)
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    La Gitane

    Let's have the comparison chart, GOP.

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 04:14:12 PM PST

    •  I'm sure there are a lot of canceled plans (3+ / 0-)

      mine was canceled - and seamlessly replaced with a compliant one. If I chose to, I could have done nothing and rolled into a plan very similar to the one I had.

      However, I did decide to do something and went to coveredca.com.  My rolled-over plan went from $260/mo to $60/mo, so I decided to take a gold plan that is $177/mo - almost $100 less than my bronze-similar plan.

      So the question shouldn't be "how many canceled plans" are there, but how many people "lost" coverage vs. how many gained coverage.  My guess would be that the latter vastly outweighs the former.

      "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

      by La Gitane on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 05:14:15 PM PST

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      •  Lost vs. Gained vs. Even (1+ / 0-)
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        I agree with you, La Gitane.  Two of my relatives' insurance plans were "cancelled", but they were immediately offered replacement plans.  They certainly cannot be put in a list of "cancelled" without also being put in a list of "gained". They just broke even.

  •  Hasn't the media moved on from this story? (1+ / 0-)
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    Darth Stateworker

    If so, I don't see how this will have much legs for the GOP in  the midterms.

    •  They have. (0+ / 0-)

      But that won't prevent the rightwingnuts from parroting it over and over again to try to get it back IN the news.

      And of course, it's win-win for them, because if it doesn't end up back in the news, they can just blame the mythical "liberal media" for ignoring them.

  •  Alternate History (4+ / 0-)

    Because no one EVER had their insurance canceled before Obamacare!

  •  Well (0+ / 0-)
    So right now it's throwing whatever they can think of out there to see what sticks
    Isn't this the GOP plan for everything?  Do this, and toss in "Benghazi!!!" every couple of sentences, and I think you've about summed up their master talking point sheet.
  •  The GOP exposed themselves (2+ / 0-)
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    Conium, LMS44

    It is so blatantly obvious.  Their cry in the wilderness that "all these people have had their policies cancelled," is laughable because.....they end it there, making the gullible think these people are left out in the cold.

    We know that just the opposite is true.  Not only are those with cancelled policies given alternatives, but for the most part they are better off  as far as coverage than they had before.  

    However, if your insurance company cannot give you a better policy, go to your market place.   The majority of people will find they not only have more complete coverage, but they can choose the deductibles and the co-pays that suits their income and need.

    The more these wingnuts talk, the deeper they dig their hole; the better to crawl back under.

  •  Glenn Kessler Joins In The Cancellation Truthiness (1+ / 0-)
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    annominous

    "The Fact Checker" weighs in again!  He doesn't even bother with a fig leaf of he-said-she-said, he just quotes the GOP, throws his hands up and says "Nobody knows for sure!"

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    What all these stories ignore is that most people's health insurance is canceled repeatedly as they age.  You won't have the same policies at 21, 40, and 60. Otherwise the policy would be called "guaranteed renewable."  

    Because of this there was already a tremendous amount of churn in the market except now the GOP claims this is new.

    Not surprisingly, many commentors are totally aware of this, while the Beltway sultans are probably genuinely ignorant of these real world worries.

    Does the GOP want to outlaw cancellations? Because that would be the dreaded government takeover that never happened.  

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 04:48:24 PM PST

  •  My local paper published a column (0+ / 0-)

    by Erick Erickson that repeats the same Boehner/Buck claim.

    More Americans have now lost insurance, thanks to the Affordable Care Act, than have gotten.
  •  Red State Malevolence (1+ / 0-)
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    La Gitane

    Regarding the five million left out by Republican officials in red states who are refusing to expand Medicaid, will these people be fined under the ACA because they do not have enough money to purchase a plan?

  •  Unreal. (3+ / 0-)
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    Conium, InterestedInRedState, LMS44

    Yeah, there were canceled plans.  A lot of them.  Because they sucked and health care reform made them illegal - kinda the whole point of goddamn REFORM.

    Gawd these people are living and breathing some kind of gaseous asseous substance that is making it impossible them to comprehend anything that slightly resembles reality.

    How do you even begin to argue with these idiots, much less reason with them???

    "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

    by La Gitane on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 05:07:28 PM PST

    •  It does little good to argue with them. (1+ / 0-)
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      La Gitane

      This is because the only purpose of repeating lie after lie about the ACA is so they can beat up on anything "Obama".  They know they are lying, but they are amoral and could not care less if it serves their purpose(s).

    •  I heard a radio interview of a health insurance re (0+ / 0-)

      rep who pointed out that all insurance policies are cancelled every year. For those of us insured by employers, the roll over is seamless, but for those who buy their health insurance plans privately, those plans were certainly cancelled, just like usual.

      Sorry, can't cite. It was a radio show.

  •  Conservatives live in the past! (1+ / 0-)
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    annominous

    They haven't accepted losing the Civil War or the White House to Obama in 2012 (and every defeat in between), thus don't go thinking they will move on in the case of the Affordable Care Act, for they NEVER DO on anything!

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