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  •  Advice taken. (6+ / 0-)


    "Onward through the fog!" - Oat Willie

    by rocksout on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 03:07:48 PM PST

  •  First... (4+ / 0-)

    I am glad you and your family are ok.  Second...  Did you stop to help those behind you that got hit?

    Third, advice well taken and given.  I have 5 kids at home... drive safely.

    "Death is the winner in any war." - Nightwish/Imaginareum/Song of myself.

    by doingbusinessas on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 03:09:46 PM PST

    •  I might not stop to help (6+ / 0-)

      It depends on where the accident happened. Was there a safe place to pull off the road way? If not I'd just call 911 on my phone and let them know of the accident.

      Also if you're not trained to offer help you could just make the situation worse. Pulling someone out of a car you could cause irreparable damage to their spine/neck.

      Have you ever tried to help someone who is pumped up on adrenaline and freaking out? When I took rescue training for my dive master learning how to safely deal with drowning victims was tough. They actually can kill their would be rescuers in their panicked state.

      Yes, it sounds like the humane and decent thing to do but it could go horribly, horribly wrong as well.

      There are lies, damn lies, and statistics but they all pale in comparison to conservative talking points.

      by ontheleftcoast on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 03:34:41 PM PST

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      •  When I took life guard training... (3+ / 0-)

        That was a huge warning too.  Besides being trained to approach from behing, we were told to be prepared to slug the crap out of them to keep them from gaining the upper hand in that situation.

        Sometimes you have to take tough actions when you are trying to save their lives.

        I've lived my life believing, preaching and practicing that when you panic, you die.

        How you deal with stress can determine whether you live or die.  Metaphorically at least.

        The republicons moan, the republicons bitch. Our rich are too poor and our poor are too rich. Ferguson Foont

        by Josiah Bartlett on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 04:01:16 PM PST

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      •  There are some things that you can safely do. (6+ / 0-)

        The big ones after a car accident are:

        1) Calling emergency services.  It doesn't matter if you think others have done so.  Far better to make a redundant 911 call then delay help arriving.

        2) Firewatch.  Keep an eye out for spilling gasoline, anything flammable, and/or the presence of fire.  One of the cars catches fire, then pulling people out becomes IMPERATIVE - better they sustain spinal injuries then burn alive.  You also can keep anyone with cigarettes, lighters or other sources of flame away from the scene.  Carrying a small fire extingusiher can be a lifesaver - they won't put out a car fire, but they will buy precious seconds until the firefighters arrive.

        3) Directing traffic and/or laying down hazard markers.  If it can be safely done, direct traffic around the area of the accident so no further cars are involved.

        4) Once the emergency crews arrive, CLEAR THE SCENE.  Let the professionals do their work.  If you witnessed the accident, do talk to the police after the immediate emergency is clear to give a witness statement - it will help a lot in the aftermath.

  •  I'm glad you're ok. (3+ / 0-)
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    Sonnet, diggerspop, Oh Mary Oh

    Thanks for the reminder, and happy new year.

  •  1 ms later is good by us... (2+ / 0-)
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    Sonnet, diggerspop

    No cartoonist splat. Must be b/c you were put on earth for a reason...yes, definitely. Glad you're all ok, K.

    What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. Henry VI Part II Act 3 Scene 2

    by TerryDarc on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 03:13:50 PM PST

  •  Because freedom (0+ / 0-)

    no disrespect meant to the cartoonist, but just came across this, gonna use this as an open thread:
    Because Freedom!

    "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." ~Frederick Douglass

    by ActivistGuy on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 03:23:11 PM PST

  •  I hear ya Keef (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm so glad you and your family are good.

    And daddy won't you take me back to Muhlenberg County Down by the Green River where Paradise lay. Well, I'm sorry my son, but you're too late in asking Mister Peabody's coal train has hauled it away. John Prine

    by high uintas on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 04:25:11 PM PST

  •  Timely.. (4+ / 0-)

    I just had a wreck and am waiting to hear if the car is totaled or not.

    Thank goodness both of us walked away. My Prius took a hard hit and performed beautifully. If it is totaled, I am absolutely getting another one.

  •  A miss is as good as a mile. Stay safe. nt (1+ / 0-)
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    "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

    by Lily O Lady on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 04:46:44 PM PST

  •  I was that car in the T-bone a few months ago (4+ / 0-)

    Was driving on a one way urban street with no traffic when a Taurus lurched in front of me from a cross street. I remember it like it was a dream: dum de dum... OH SHIT a car is suddenly in front of me!! SMASH. I barely had time to hit the brakes, not that it helped much. To my memory, it all happened in an instant. After the crash, my car was sitting crumpled up in the intersection, and I remember just sitting there for some time. Not injured at all, but in a daze. Then someone knocked on my window and asked if I was OK.

    The Taurus had a mom (driver), two cute little kids dressed in school uniforms, and an elderly grandmother. They were miraculously uninjured, even though both of our cars were completely totaled by the impact. The kids were crying hysterically, especially when they had to use the Jaws of Life to extract grandma.

    I feel so grateful to be alive and that nobody was injured, and though I would not wish that experience on anyone, being in an accident like that sure helps put things into perspective. Like for example, how fragile we really are as we race about in our various metal contraptions, and how at any time, in an instant we, or a loved one could be forever damaged, or taken from this world.

    "Tell the truth and run." -- Yugoslav proverb

    by quill on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 05:13:54 PM PST

  •  Keef's reaction is spot on (3+ / 0-)

    I remember talking to a banker friend of mind one day who described stopping to help a motorist on the side of the road. I don't remember the runup to the situation, but someone else stopped and a weapon was brandished.

    "Oh great," my friend remembered thinking. "There's going to be a shooting and I'm going to be late for work."

    Not dead, not in the hospital, late for work.

    That's just the way the human mand works sometimes.

    Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

    by Omir the Storyteller on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 05:29:20 PM PST

  •  I think your second last panel is the (1+ / 0-)
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    best one with your family portrayal and your own self portrait.

  •  This same thing happened to me years ago (0+ / 0-)

    I was driving home from work back in 2001 when the car in front of me just... disappeared for a microsecond. Then I heard a loud crash and realized that a pickup truck had slammed into it from the side, just out of the blue.

    I stopped and asked if everyone was alright. They both said they were and seemed perfectly fine. So I went home.

    I'll never forget that night, actually. Just a few hours earlier, I was robbed at the gas station I was working at. Haha.

    My style is impetuous.
    My defense is impregnable.

    by samfish on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 05:31:37 PM PST

  •  Totally relate to the sentiment (0+ / 0-)

    but also wonder how the people in the other cars fared.

    Republicans: Their only tool is a hammer, and every problem is a thumb.

    by Sue Hagmeier on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 06:25:46 PM PST

  •  I Know What You Mean... (1+ / 0-)
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    The difference IS milliseconds at times. Back in 1999 I was driving down 9 from the Santa Cruz mountains toward San Jose, and was just about to escape that windy roller coaster bit. To this day, I don't know WHY I looked in the rear view mirror... but there was suddenly a mountain on my ass.

    No, I'm not exaggerating -- in a bright, sunny day, sans earthquakes or saturated ground, the entire mountain side gave way the moment I passed it. Freakin' TREES were "swooping" down as if they were being cut down by meth fueled beavers. I pulled over (partly to prove to myself that it actually was happening) and called it in (once I confirmed it had).

    Even more un-nerving is when it all goes down in FRONT of you. In May of 2005 I was driving home after work on 880 in the east (SF) bay. Some morons in the left lane rushed by me doing about 90. I looked ahead, and some poor guy's van had broken down... and there was no shoulder. (Old locals will know what I mean when I say "it was by the old Levitz sign, after the Castro Valley Y"). Aforementioned morons never saw it.

    You know that feeling when you see something tipping over across the room, and you can't seem to yell or react fast enough, and even if you did...

    I remember screaming "BRAKE!! For the love of..." and it was done. The morons careened off of the van, angled directly in front of me, bounced off the car to my RIGHT, and debris, smoke and craziness went on from there.

    And suddenly... I was past it. There was a "star" on my windscreen as the only evidence it happened. I pulled over and ran back, to find that 8 cars were involved, and somehow everyone was alive and okay (even the morons and the guy in the van, which was now cut in HALF). Somehow, I managed to "split the difference" and walked away.

    I no longer commute. Seriously, within the month I was working within a mile of where I lived.

    I am sincerely glad to hear that everyone is safe!

    And now I want to go home and hug my wife.

  •  Yo (0+ / 0-)

    Keefe. At least you can afford a veehicul. Quit your cartoonish whining man.

    It could be way worse. You and yours could have been on foot which is an excusable reason for homicide in NYC.

  •  Yohannon, your comment about meth fueled beavers (0+ / 0-)

    cracked me up!  I could actually picture that in my mind, which is kind of scary!  
    My worst car accident experience was sitting at a stop light, cars all around me, now where to go and hearing and seeing a car come screetching up behind me because his brakes had failed.  He hit my bumper on my old 1986 chrysler and shook me to the bone.  I was afraid I would see him in my back seat, but that old car had those collapsable bumpers and it did its thing, absorbed the impact and other than a bit of whiplash and scratches on an already scratched up bumper, there was no serious damage.  We drove that car into the ground, don't know how many miles were on it as it had been passed down from my husband's aunt, to another aunt, to my mother-in-law to us when she died.  It had been rolled over at least twice, maybe 3 times. (odometer, not the car!)

  •  Rammed in my RAM (1+ / 0-)
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    I got rammed in my Dodge Ram pickup in late 2009. Sitting at a light about 5th car back around say 6:30 - 7:00 pm.

    I'm pretty attentive to my mirrors and surroundings ... I noticed a car at least the headlights getting bigger in the rear view mirror. I remember thinking "Is this guy going to stop?". I never got rear ended before ... why would I think that? Answer the brain is pretty good analog computer. My brain told me the normal slowdown that occurs with objects approaching is not occurring ...

    I actually started to crank the wheel to the left and get out of harms way ... which would have left the poor nice lady (I really don't think she was poor) with the dog in her lap in the firing line. I was looking out my side view mirror and trying to do that one more look for the blind spot and WHAM!!! I took the impact. Guy going somewhere upwards to 60 Mph in a sub compact car. Well the punch line nobody got killed or even injured I think. Dodge Ram pickups bed took on a nice twist and an upward twist as the car tried to drive up underneath the rear end. I think that '99 truck had the steel bumper - so the bumper and the the truck bed took the most of the impact.

    Kind of changed my life. I had never been in anything more than minor fender benders before. It kind of wakes you up to the fact that Not Only your actions can cause and accident - but you gotta watch out for the actions of others. Look at an intersection before you get there. Look for idiots running stop lights and stop signs ... Remember those milliseconds or whatever that others have mentioned. If you pay attention maybe you stopped and never drove into that intersection to get T-boned. Look at a car like a boat or a space shuttle ... a bunch of energy and pretend you don't have brakes. Use them of course but pretend like you don't have them. Pay attention the cars and vehicles around you. Try to have your brain always working out an escape plan ... Where can I go if shit hits the fan. To the right? Left? Is the car behind too close for a fast stop? While driving watch for the sleep girl from Georgia (or wherever) like today happened to me, changing lanes to the left while you are changing lanes to the right. Did you see it? Did you swerve back left and save her sleepy inattentive life? I hope so.

    People pull up and stop past Stop Lines ... past Stop Signs and maybe even stop lights. Expect that. Always expect that. Expect that every body else is an idiot driver ... and from what I've seen - most of the time you will not be wrong.

    •  If nothing else (0+ / 0-)

      MOST of the time, you will still be alive and well.  That is the main thing.  If you drive like you are surrounded by idiots on steroids, most likely you will get there and back all in once piece,

  •  *hugs* (0+ / 0-)

    hugs to every Kossack here.  

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