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I just read this in the Washington Post.

Don’t be surprised if your TV soon seems to know everything about your politics

All I could think about was George Orwell's 1984 and think to myself WOW, Big Brother is here to stay!

So Let me get this straight.  

When I use my smart phone to make calls, send texts or play games, the NSA is watching.

When I use my computer to send emails, the NSA is watching.  

When I surf the web, everyone is watching.

And now when I watch TV, politicians are watching?

Hmmm, I bet if I lived off the grid in Alaska, there would still be someone watching.  

Wow, there really is no privacy anymore.  Look how far we've come!

We're not far if not already there from the Technology of Orwell's Big Brother.  And we already know that it will be abused because it already has been abused in the past.  

So where does that leave us?  Mindless drones being controlled by the 1%?  

They wiggle the allure of joining their ranks but it's just an illusion whose sole purpose is to keep us working for them?  

Maybe I'm just getting cynical in my old age, but come on now, inserting political ads on my DVR?  Is the government going to make them tell you that they are now going to be doing this?  Or they just going to do it and leave it to the media to let people know what is going on?

Well, I was considering changing to Dish Network or Direct TV, but that won't happen now.  

I have to wonder.  Does this bother anyone else as much as it bothers me?

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  •  Tip Jar (10+ / 0-)

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    by pollchecker on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 06:35:52 AM PST

  •  I think we passed Orwell's Big Brother (3+ / 0-)
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    about ten years back.

  •  So if you watch MSNBC, you get ads for (1+ / 0-)
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    Democrats and if you watch FOX, you get ads for teabaggers.  Does that particularly bother me? No.

     If I google Chevrolet Equinox, I get ads for Chevy Equinoxes for several days on any website I go to. If I google a medical question, I get all sorts of ads relating to that condition on every website I go to.

    This doesn't seem any different to me and it is not "the government" that is involved in either instance so I don't see what Big Brother has to do with it. I have always been aware the DirectTV knows what I watch and when. And google knows what I google. For that matter, Netflix knows what I order from them as does Amazon. But none of those relate to the government.

    You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

    by sewaneepat on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 07:18:34 AM PST

    •  Not that we know (0+ / 0-)

      How do I know that the government isn't in there somewhere?  You are assuming they aren't and assumptions all spell trouble.

      A year ago did most people know about the NSA programs?

      Google and these companies that amass date have to turn it over to the government if asked and they can't tell you if they have been asked.  

      We know  the technology  exists to put something on your computer that will activate your camera and watch you.  

      No, we aren't quite as far as Orwell's story was but we have GOP politicians who want to rewrite science and history.   Isn't that what they did in Orwell's story?  

      when and where does it stop?  Or does it ever?  

      Or are we just to turn around and take it like the masses?  

      You will do this and you will like it!  Eh????

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      by pollchecker on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 07:37:19 AM PST

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      •  The diary and the article it linked to had nothing (1+ / 0-)
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        to do with the government. It had to do with targeted political advertising. So that is what I responded to. That seems little different to me than the fact that if you watch the nightly news, you get ads targeted to us old people since that is who still watches the nightly news.

        If you have information that the government is watching to see what you are watching, then write a diary about that. But the particular thing you wrote about does not mention anything about the government collecting information concerning your viewing habits.

        This is like Kroger knowing what I buy because I use my Kroger card and then they send me coupons based on what I buy. Do you think that is some nefarious government plot also?

        You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

        by sewaneepat on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 07:52:53 AM PST

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        •  No nefarous plot just pondering possibilities (0+ / 0-)

          Look I'm not some crazy paranoid conspiracy person but I am not willing to just look the other way while anyone continues to invade my privacy.  

          But how do you know that the government isn't spying on your through your dishwasher or something else?

          And do we just assume because they aren't spying today that they won't be spying 5 or 10 years from now?

          I have learned one thing and that is to never make assumptions when it comes to the power of our government.   I think that was why there were suppose to be constitutional protections.    Because isn't there somewhere that says something about absolute power corrupting?????

          Just wondering aloud?

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          by pollchecker on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 08:35:01 AM PST

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          •  Yes, Lord Acton famously said (0+ / 0-)

            "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

            I know that no one is spying on me through my refrigerator or dishwasher because neither of them is connected to the internet.

            But the thing is, in my opinion, is that there are many issues to be concerned about and to work on without worrying about issues that are not. For instance, if you wrote a diary about things the NSA is actually doing, I would have a different response than to a diary about a television provider collecting information about your viewing choices so they can sell ads. That has gone on as long as we have had TV - probably even longer - ever since we have had radio.

            Even if you wrote the same diary about corporate "spying" and how uneasy that makes you (as it does me) and left out the government, I would likely have agreed with you.  But conflating the two issues dilutes the real issues, IMO.

            You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

            by sewaneepat on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 09:22:19 AM PST

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            •  stepping outside the box can be good (1+ / 0-)
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              Sometimes it is a good thing to look at something from a completely different perspective than ordinary.  

              My gut reaction was exactly the title of this  blog when I read the article.  Visions of the book 1984 flashed through my mind.  Not that I'm worried about it, but if people don't know about this stuff then they can't make accurate choices.  They go around living their lives based on assumptions.  

              Perhaps if we had thought outside the box in advance tragic events of the past would not have occurred.  Would anyone dare to believe that someone would fly planes into the trade towers?   Would anyone dared to believe that someone could hack Target's credit card terminals?

              So perhaps it is wise to do a little investigation before you change cable providers because frankly I don't want that stuff on my DVR box and am glad I read the article.  And I will have second thoughts before I buy the new appliance and hook it up to the internet.  And if I do get an automated home security system I will make certain to take extra security.  

              I  have the choice and can make the choice because I am informed about the possibilities.   But if you aren't aware of this information and the entity whether its corporate or government doesn't disclose the information, how can you make a valid choice?  It's like they take choice away from you.  

              Now that I know the NSA wants to track me through apps I can be more selective about what apps I choose to download.   But without that knowledge, I'm just walking around blind, leaking information.  Don't I have a right to know, to choose what I leak?  

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              by pollchecker on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 09:33:57 AM PST

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              •  I agree with everything you said there. (0+ / 0-)

                Yes, we need to be aware of these things. My only objection was the conflating the governmental spying with corporate spying.

                You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

                by sewaneepat on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 09:59:42 AM PST

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                •  consider this (0+ / 0-)

                  Corporate america collects information on you.  Gov't wants that information and corporate America has to give it to them upon request without your knowledge.  

                  Now there are some who would say that corporate america is just another source of information for the government whether willing or not.  It's just another tool to collect and store information about you to be accessed at will by the government whenever they want.  

                  Ok, so corporate america goes along with it because
                  a)it's easier and cheaper than fighting it and
                  b) because they use the information to make money.  

                  It's a trade off.  So it really doesn't matter who is collecting the data and why they are collecting it because if the government wants it, they can have it by just asking.  

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                  by pollchecker on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 10:20:00 AM PST

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  •  see: (1+ / 0-)
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    Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

    by DRo on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 07:21:52 AM PST

    •  How about your refrigerator? (2+ / 0-)
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      Refrigerator Busted Sending Spam Emails In Massive Cyberattack

      So if they can put spyware on your refrigerator, doesn't that mean they can spy on your that way?

      And what about these home automation systems that AT&T are advertising now?  Most of them are open to attack because they are not protected properly.  Saw that on the local news last month.  

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      by pollchecker on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 07:44:41 AM PST

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      •  The Internet of Snoopy Things (0+ / 0-)

        The capability of ubiquitous surveillance is becoming easier and easier with the encroachment of networked devices into every corner of everyone's lives. This is reality and we can't pretend it away or have faith that it won't be abused.

        Snowden did us all an enormous favor by pointing out (on a continuing basis) just how far our governments have gone towards implementing the full monty Surveillance State, and how eager they are to go even further to collect every secret and bit of private data that everyone has.

        However, notice that, right now, "the capability" is not the same as "is actually happening". A point Snowden makes, and I agree, is that now that we're aware of the threat from our own government (more accurately our pwned government), we need to push hard for robust internet privacy protections ASAP, and combine those with a shift to higher security and encryption by the companies that hold our data and process our internet activities. The latter is already happening as Facebook, Google et al are now hardening their backend systems against the NSA intrusion methods.

        "Tell the truth and run." -- Yugoslav proverb

        by quill on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 08:46:56 AM PST

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        •  well put but... (1+ / 0-)
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          there is one thing that technology and the NSA have in common.  They both are constantly changing and not always for the better.   And keeping up with them is a chore most people don't want.

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          by pollchecker on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 08:53:45 AM PST

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          •  that's why we need legal and tech protections now (0+ / 0-)

            We can't guess what the NSA and others will do to exploit ubiquitous technology, but we can make it both legally unacceptable and technically difficult. It's all we have, really, since as you say, we won't be giving up our smartphones and other gadgets any time soon, and when we do it will be to replace them with even more powerful and connected tech.  

            "Tell the truth and run." -- Yugoslav proverb

            by quill on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 10:12:57 AM PST

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  •  Many people watch; few actually see anything. n/t (0+ / 0-)

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    by hannah on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 08:56:24 AM PST

    •  So true (0+ / 0-)

      The programs that Snowden exposed were no secret.  They had been known about for years by those of us who were watching.  Many suspected that they were lying when they said they weren't spying on regular Americans but how do you prove that the most powerful intelligence agency in the world (perhaps) is lying to the public?  

      You so what Mr. Snowden did.  You take the evidence and give to a nuetral source to disseminate and then you get as far away from the NSA as possible.  

      I read that Snowden was possibly being nominated for a Nobel Peace prize.  I hope he is and I hope he wins.  

      So call me paranoid.  But I think that I will be less impulsive in the future when it comes to bringing more new technology into my home.  While I love the idea of my refrigerator keeping track of everything for me, I can't help but wonder who else is keeping track.

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      by pollchecker on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 09:07:31 AM PST

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