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I try and let companies know how I feel about their politics and how if I don't agree with them I will just as soon buy other products.  There is a top rated diary right now about the secret Koch meetings and who was there. Mother Jones
magazine has a quick rundown of the participants.  Most of them are companies that I would not use such as big financial hedge funds, industrial companies that make products for other companies etc.  There are a few though that you and I might patronize from time to time. These include Jockey Underwear, Omni Hotels and Golds Gym. So I now know I won't be using any of those products anymore.  Actually there is no Golds Gym where I live and I would rather stay in a Motel 6 than an Omni Hotel anyways.
Butt (intentional) what about Jockey Underwear?  I just sent a note to their Facebook page that says "I guess it's time to go commando rather than wear Koch loving underwear."  The comment has probably been scrubbed by now, but  Facebook bombs to Jockey, Omni and Gold Gym are in order.

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  •  Sadly so many on that list are hard to boycott (2+ / 0-)
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    PsychoSavannah, occupystephanie

    But as you pointed out, a few are.

    Really though, if people want to really boycott they need to go much further than something like this.  I mean, people will boycott Fox News, but do they boycott their sponsors?

    People will boycott Fox News, but will they boycott all of the other media owned by Rupert Murdoch?  You hate what he is doing and we must stop him!  Oh look what's on Fox TV tonight!  Let's watch.

    •  Those are just the ones named in the article (0+ / 0-)

      They were named because they're brands most are familiar with. The equity funds involved have many holdings that were not named in the piece.

      Morevoer, I'm not sure that I think it's entirely fair to gang up on Omni or Gold's, without knowing more. For example, I don't know that most Gold's Gyms are company owned. I imagine they're mostly franchised, though I think they are run as more of a cohesive unit than they used to be. No longer do you have access to just the one gym, if you subscribe to a regional membership.  TRT may own the brand, but if you just pay your monthly membership, you may not be enriching the corporate coffers.

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      by FischFry on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 02:16:10 PM PST

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    •  And as always, Georgia Pacific (1+ / 0-)
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      Because we buy the type of products they make constantly — toilet paper, paper towels, paper napkins. Pay attention! When you go to buy paper goods, turn the package over. If it says "Kimberly Scott" or "Procter Gamble," you can put it in your cart. If it says "Georgia Pacific," put it back on the shelf.

      Georgia Pacific is the Koch Brothers. You don't even want to wipe yourself with them/

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

      by anastasia p on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 08:36:34 PM PST

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  •  sorry i don't do boycotts (1+ / 0-)
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    Victor Ward

    i try to win the argument rather than engage in economic warfare. Besides, if you made all of your purchasing politically pure, you wouldnt be able to buy anything.

    If someone makes a good donut, I want to reward them for their good donut making skills, not their politics. I'm there for the donuts afterall.

    I hear gardening is a nice hobby.

    by SeanF on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 01:57:31 PM PST

    •  Disagree. (12+ / 0-)

      Economic warfare. Absolutely. Wage that motherfucker.

      If Papa John made good pizza*, but the proceeds gotten from me purchasing that pizza went to fuck over the poor and the employees of his franchises, then I'm not willing to assist him in his goal by putting money in his pocket, even if it tastes like ambrosia sprinkled with fairy dust and covered in distilled joy**.

      *It's not.
      **It doesn't.

      "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

      by raptavio on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 02:02:33 PM PST

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    •  That's a shame because the only power (7+ / 0-)

      you actually have is your wallet.  Your vote kind of sort of counts, but what we end up with for choices is due to the people at the meetings in that linked diary.  Taking their money away takes away their power.

      I guess if the apple pie at the restaurant owned by the Grand Wizard of the local KKK chapter was really good, you'd reward him for his pie-making skills?

      Listening to the NRA on school safety is like listening to the tobacco companies on cigarette safety. (h/t nightsweat)

      by PsychoSavannah on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 02:04:22 PM PST

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      •  if the choice were that blatant (1+ / 0-)
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        Victor Ward

        I could see avoiding that delicious pie. But that's just the point. You had to create a comedy skit for it to be an easy choice. In reality, there are usually hundreds or thousands of other innocents you are also harming. And somewhere in the background one of your political enemies is somehow connected.

        I am a composer. I am gay. If someone refused to use my services because of my "immoral lifestyle," that would piss me off. I'm not giving them gay music. Just music. Other than extreme examples, I return the favor.

        Of course, everyone can do as they wish. If I thought boycotts had more efficacy, I might think a bit more kindly on them. Given that they generally aren't, and they create a wacky kind of values economy, I'm going to say no thanks.

        I hear gardening is a nice hobby.

        by SeanF on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 02:33:34 PM PST

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        •  "Other than extreme examples" (0+ / 0-)

          brings your entire argument down.

          It's either OK to boycott someone for being a stinky dickbag or it's not. If it is, then all you're arguing about is where the proper threshold is.

          "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

          by raptavio on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 02:48:27 PM PST

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          •  alright. it's ok to boycott in extreme (1+ / 0-)
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            Victor Ward

            examples that I've only ever seen described in comment streams on dkos that are comically hypothetical. So theoretically, yes, we are just debating the threshold. In any realworld application, these scenarios never present themselves.

            But ok, because I now admit that I'd refuse to buy any of Adolph Hitler's delicious maple bacon cupcakes, I think that means you won the argument.



            I hear gardening is a nice hobby.

            by SeanF on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 03:40:07 PM PST

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            •  This is the extreme. These (0+ / 0-)

              people who have cornered huge industries are purchasing our government.  I find that extreme in the extreme.

              Listening to the NRA on school safety is like listening to the tobacco companies on cigarette safety. (h/t nightsweat)

              by PsychoSavannah on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 07:16:17 AM PST

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        •  Bad example (0+ / 0-)

          If someone refused to use your music for whatever reason, that is their right.

          Boycotts can have a lot of impact. Historically they have caused many changes.

          Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

          by anastasia p on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 08:42:14 PM PST

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  •  Amen, change the equation! (2+ / 0-)
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    PsychoSavannah, occupystephanie

    Thanks for the info, we need each attendee translated into their holdings like this.

  •  Well-placed boycotts can be good (3+ / 0-)
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    Samer, occupystephanie, jan4insight

    but there's such a thing as overdoing the motif. I don't know which is more abused right now--boycotts or petition drives. It's getting kind of nutty.

    Still, there's not a thing wrong with writing to the offending parties and letting them know what scumbags they really are. So thanks for the heads up :)

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 02:01:19 PM PST

  •  Figure out how to boycott the end product, too (2+ / 0-)
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    Banach MacAmbrais, NoMoreLies

    Koch owns Invista, which makes Lycra. Lots of my favorite clothes have Lycra in them, but I've had it with these guys and I'm going to do my best to stop buying it.

    I know it sounds crazy, and it's definitely pretty "granola", but you actually CAN knit stretchy garments and they can be very beautiful, durable and comfortable. (Well, what did people do before Lycra was invented?)

    I bought a copy of Knitting from the Top Down by Barbara Walker and it has amazing easy-to-follow instructions on leggings, tops, tights, etc.

    Not sure what I'm going to do when I need a new bathing suit, but somehow some way I'm going to get something with no lycra.

  •  Here's where it gets tough for me… (1+ / 0-)
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    Trust me when I tell you there aren't too many to the left of me. The same goes for one of my offspring, although who actually may be slightly to the left of me. However, the spouse, while admittedly quite conservative, is a loved member of the family. They long ago (almost fifteen years) agreed to leave politics at the doorstep in their lives, including us.

    The fact that the spouse occupies a fairly high position in the hierarchy of one of those companies makes it tough to take any kind of action. And that's not only for family harmony, but for the family's financial well being, too.

    So, I'll have to pick and choose which battles I'll fight. I can give up picnic ware, paper towels, butt wipes, and construction products, but I won't compromise my family.

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    by exatc on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 02:29:53 PM PST

  •  Boycott because one of their (0+ / 0-)

    executives attended a meeting? I don't think so.

  •  Yep, got it. nt (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans only care about themselves, their money, & their power.

    by jdmorg on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 02:58:41 PM PST

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