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The Mitt Romney documentary (named, yep, Mitt) has been making the rounds recently. And toward the end, Mitt says something pretty revealing. Here's the quote:

“This is really serious, guys. This is really serious. I cannot believe that he [i.e. Obama] is an aberration in the country. This is following the path of every other great nation, which is we’re following greater government, tax the rich people, promise more stuff to everybody, borrow until you go over a cliff. We have a very high risk of reaching the tipping point sometime in the next five years.”

Now, let's leave aside the obviously delusional aspects of that statement, because no matter how bad Obama is, he will never match the fiscal irresponsibility of the Reagan administration or the ghastly failures of George W. Bush. What I find interesting is the assumption that there's a single natural progression to the collapse of "great nations" - that they punish the wealthy, coddle the poor, and then collapse into bankruptcy. This has a familiar ring to me; and even if it didn't, I'm pretty sure that Mitt didn't come up with this himself, because original thinking isn't one of his vices.

I suspect it is Friedrich Hayek six or seven times removed (and not what Hayek himself would have said), a truism that circulates on the Right so that conservative pundits can appear profound without putting in the intellectual effort to be so in reality. If that's the case, then it's a talking point worth considering.

In short, what great nations (if any) have actually pursued this course? Any thoughts? How does one define a "great nation" anyway? And of that group, how many have declined because of taxation of the wealthy, and how many through war, disease, famine, cultural co-optation, or imperial overreach?

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  •  Dunno But All the Ones That Surpass the USA (0+ / 0-)

    in so many measures of well being of their people, chief among them offering their people more of the American Dream than America offers us, they tax more and give more to their people.

    The ones I see going off the cliff are cutting taxes and cutting services to the people, following the conservative prescription.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Feb 11, 2014 at 07:50:41 AM PST

  •  What a bunch (0+ / 0-)

    of unscholarly nitwits- I wish I could ask a Tax-and- Spend- on-War repugnican to justify such a blanket statement.
    Just the other night reading how the LOSS of tax revenue from the Goth-infested Iberia contributed to the collapse of the Romans' vast empire...

    I buy and sell well trained riding mules and American Mammoth Jack Stock.

    by old mule on Tue Feb 11, 2014 at 08:24:32 AM PST

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