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Diversity Chronicle had me going.

This is what I wrote:

This is truly interesting.

I see by the date on the news source,
the Pope spoke these word late last December.

If this was already thoroughly diaried,
here at Daily Kos,
I missed it.

Even if so,
I hope some of you don't mind
reading my two cents worth of thoughts
on the words of the Pope.

Here is the link:

News in Nigeria

And another:

And one more:

I was looking for the full transcript,
and couldn't find it.

Quotes and commentary,
below the fold.

Once again,
this was satire.
I thought it was news.

Here is what I wrote:

Let's start with the Church:

as I looked at the quotes,
I see the Pope
the Church,
the truth,
in one statement:


“All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? - See more at:

And again,
in another statement:

Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. - See more at:

he eliminated truth,
as I understand it,
if a thing is not simply true,
even when folks don't feel it's true,
then it's not truth,
as I understand it.

he eliminated any church or religion,
since any religion,
as I understand it,
involves an organization
that states some truths,
as defined above.

but not least,
the Pope eliminated God,
in two separate statements:

Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.” - See more at:

Second statement:

“God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. - See more at:

Seems to me that
rather than a god who is a person,
independent of humans,
he speaks of a god that is a thing,
a thing that is found inside humans.

And that about sums it up.

I'm a non-believer.

In this world,
as I understand it,
there are about
two billion Christians,
one and a half billion Muslims,
one billion Hindus,
and one billion non-believers:

world population numbers

About 20% of Americans are non-believers.

I have two main points to make,
one makes me happy,
one makes me sad.

The point that makes me happy is,
for all practical purposes,
the Pope is a non-believer.

Pope Francis,
to the ranks of non-believers,
one billion strong.

The point that makes me sad,
is the way he killed the basic concept
of truth,
otherwise known as
correct information.

If I tell you
using tobacco
is very likely to kill you,
that is correct information,
and it has an effect on me,
if you're in my family,
if you're a good friend,
your use of tobacco
has an effect on me.

The funeral is tomorrow,
for a pretty good friend,
a co-worker,
at my Walmart workplace.

Tom and I saw our duties
in a similar light,
unload the truck,
sort out the items correctly,
make sure everything gets put out
to the right department,
on the sales floor.

We understood each other,
we liked each other.

He was a smoker.

Now he's dead.

My oldest sister,
will be dead within a year.

Same thing,
long term smoker,
now has cancer.

My younger brother,
and his wife,
are smokers.

No news is good news so far,
on their health,
but I expect to have the unpleasant experience
of attending their funerals,
before I die.

I like correct information,
independent of what folks
feel they want to believe.

if I can't persuade anyone,
what good is my precious correct information,
my precious truth?

if I think in terms of what is practical,
maybe the Pope is correct.

that can't be true,
because then that truth
would be truth!

Oh well.

Thanks for reading.

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  •  Tip Jar (7+ / 0-)

    Famine in America by 2050: the post-peak oil American apocalypse.

    by bigjacbigjacbigjac on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 08:51:03 PM PST

  •  Like many liberal minded people, I read the Bible (5+ / 0-)

    in horror. 2 vile parts I remember were in Hosea telling how to celebrate as you grabbed infants by their feet and dashed them against the wall, and cutting the fetus out of pregnant women and the attack on the Moabites in Kings which was a far fetched fish story. It was out with the old and in with the Deistic version of God in the NT for me. Jefferson said the NT had two parts, one from a superior mind and other parts from an inferior mind and you could pick out the words of Jesus as easily as finding diamonds in a dung heap. He actually cut out all those dung heap parts and made the Jefferson Bible which may be found on line. Though rejecting the supernatural he regarded the philosophy of Jesus to be the most sublime philosophy extant. Jefferson's God was the God of Nature who allowed humans to evolve the power of reason which should be used to study nature and thus come to know that God. This Pope did not eliminate God, just has a liberal minded view of God. This has to be the most liberal minded Pope in history, and I am delighted to have him and wish him a long reign. He is no more an atheist than Jefferson was, and could only be viewed that way from a conservative "christian" viewpoint.

    Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

    by J Edward on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 09:17:57 PM PST

  •  It would be interesting if people (2+ / 0-)
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    bigjacbigjacbigjac, HoundDog

    who had a theological background would write about stuff like this.

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 09:46:20 PM PST

  •  Beautiful and well expressed. (2+ / 0-)

    Your second sad point
    has on odd sort of spiritual double entre
    the way I misread it.

    At first, I thought your sadness
    at the murder of truth
    was disagreement with
    the truth you celebrated
    with your first point.
    (I haven't had my coffee yet.)

    On trying to figure out
    how to express this to you
    did I realize you agreed
    with my disagreement with
    my misperceptiton
    of your second point
    as that was part of
    your first happy point.

    The murder of truth
    wasn't disagreement
    that if the Pope had expressed
    such higher truths
    he would have been wrong
    but that he hadn't expressed them.

    Making the whole experience
    of reading your post
    doubly engaging.

    Well done.

    I also enjoy
    your phrase parsing
    as it helps me concentrate
    more intently
    on meanings
    I might gloss over
    on a quicker
    straight read.

    The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

    by HoundDog on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 02:55:12 AM PST

  •  There's a difference between accuracy and (1+ / 0-)
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    truth. Accuracy can be measured by comparison -- i.e. this is the same (dimension, color, orientation, etc) as that.

    Truth is not provable. We cannot prove what is, only what is not. When we disprove everything that is not, what's left over is the truth, unless there's an occasion to prove it false.
    The result, somewhat ironically, is that the false has more certainty than the truth. Which is probably why falsehoods appeal to the Cons. Certainty is what the insecure are after. The security state has been created in the image of the endemically afraid.
    Why are they full of fear? Perhaps their brains got scrambled at birth.

    by hannah on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 03:14:05 AM PST

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