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As a young man my parents taught me not to lie. I as a parent I have stressed to my son that he should always be honest and tell the truth. Now, we all know that there is a gray area with white lies and half-truths we tell everyday to save someone’s feelings or to avoid embarrassing social situations. But those are not the lies we are talking about. We are talking about a double standard when it comes to the truth, Democrats, and Republicans.

On January 26th, 1998 then-President Bill Clinton uttered the lie heard 'round the world, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." At the time I was disappointed in the president—he cheated on his wife and lied about it; however, at the time, and to this day I feel that this was and always should have been an issue between the president and first lady. The Republican Party felt differently and impeached the president of the United States for lying about getting a blowjob.

Since then, President Bush lied about the evidence that sent us to war in Iraq and Republican politicians and talking heads have lied to the American people about everything from death panels to what would happen if the country defaulted on its debt. Here in Wisconsin we have a governor who has done nothing but lie to his constituents since before he was on the campaign trail.

In Governor Walker's case it has become obvious since the John Doe I emails have been released that he knew about and used the secret network in his county executive office. I see no moves by Republican leadership in Wisconsin to even censure him. Of course this isn't even his biggest lie—I am not even sure how you could determine his biggest lie as he does it so often. From lying about voting for Reagan (which later came out to be a transcription error, but no one doubted that he would have lied about something like that) to lying about why he left college. Walker seems to have forgotten that he is the son of a preacher and Eagle Scout.

Of course Scott Walker is not the only Republican liar: Chris Christie; Ron Paul; Rand Paul; Mitch McConnell; John Boehner; Tennessee Republican Senator Bob Corker, who lied in order to defeat VW employees from unionizing. The list goes on and on.

It is ironic that President Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob. Yet Republican politicians can lie about climate change, unions, healthcare, gun regulations, and a myriad of other issues that actually impact our country—yet they are never called on their lies. Their feet are never held to the fire for it. There is a double standard if a Democrat lies about anything; it is national news for months. If a Republican lies there is an initial uproar over it, but nothing is done; they are not censured, they are not impeached.

The only way to change this is to change the way Americans get their news. One, we need a truly independent media. Eight companies should not control virtually all of the news media in this country. This is why the Comcast/Time-Warner merger is such a horrible idea. It will consolidate an already consolidated industry. Two, we desperately need the fairness doctrine to be reinstated. Then we need people with courage to stand up to the Republican liars and put them in their place. My mom would have washed my mouth out with soap for lying. Maybe we need to start doing that to lying Republicans.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 05:57 PM PST.

Also republished by Badger State Progressive.

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  •  wait (0+ / 0-)
    From lying about voting for Reagan (which later came out to be a transcription error, but no one doubted that he would have lied about something like that)
    so he did Not lie and yet it still somehow counts as a lie because you think he would have lied about it? (even though he didn't) Doesn't that undercut your diary opening?
    •  Piss off, please. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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      Puddytat, Glen The Plumber

      I MISS CACTUSGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      by rubyr on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 10:17:43 PM PST

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    •  You're really becoming a pest (2+ / 0-)
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      Stude Dude, Glen The Plumber

      with those RW talking points.

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 10:24:10 PM PST

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      •  How is pointing out (0+ / 0-)

        that calling a non-lie a lie is anybodies talking point?

        I just hate bad/illogical/dishonest arguments. If you're going to claim someone is a liar, then you have to have actual lies as your examples.

      •  Liberals often gloss over Clinton's big lies (0+ / 0-)

        with silly claims that it was just a blow job, it should be between him and his wife, etc.

        The president of our country, the most powerful man in the free world, abused his power and had sex in the Oval Office, with a powerless female intern.

        Then he went on national TV, looked us in the eye, and denied it.

        What was Clinton, a twelve year old boy?

        What he did was destroy our credibility in the world and discourage an entire generation of people from voting, resulting in Republican wins for years. Bill Clinton took down the Democratic Party and shamed us across the world.

        Please don't minimize his actions with statements like, "All he did was get a blow job..."

        •  Actually, Clinton didn't lie. (0+ / 0-)

          When he said "I did not have sexual relations...", Clinton verbalized the opinion of a majority of people in the US who had participated in a survey conducted around the same time.  The New England Journal of Medicine was about to go to press with the survey results just before the spit hit the fan.  According to that survey, a majority of respondents opined that receiving a blow job was not "having sexual relations."  A lot of young people still hold this opinion - receiving oral sex isn't "having sex", while giving oral sex is.

          I don't admire Clinton's infidelity or his workplace relationship with a subordinate, but the terms of couples' relationships is an matter that is between them, and the intern was an adult and no innocent.   She had a history of sexually aggressive behavior toward older men who could support her ambitions.  The witch hunt conducted by the special prosecutor and Congress' participation in it was an abuse of authority and an enormous waste of tax dollars.  As for shaming the US across the world, that was done by Ken Starr and Congress.  The rest of the world wondered why the president was being scrutinized for something so trivial.

    •  You obviously... (4+ / 0-)

      ...have reading comprehension issues so I will spell it out for you.

      He lies so much and so often that no one doubted that he lied about voting for Reagan. No one assumed he misspoke, no one assumed it was a transcription error or typo. It was assumed that he lied. See that is what happens when you lie on a regular basis - people take everything you say as a lie.

      "Republicans only care about the rich" - George W. Andersen - my late Father (-8.25, -7.85)

      by Mark E Andersen on Wed Feb 26, 2014 at 05:49:35 AM PST

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      •  two thoughts (0+ / 0-)

        if he lies so much, why not present actual examples of actual lies. He didn't have trouble doing that with President Clinton.

        see what happens when we assume.

        •  How about this... (2+ / 0-)
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          ...if you don't like what I write. Don't read it, or better yet, write you own diary and show us all how much better you can do.

          "Republicans only care about the rich" - George W. Andersen - my late Father (-8.25, -7.85)

          by Mark E Andersen on Wed Feb 26, 2014 at 08:56:51 AM PST

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          •  well you see (0+ / 0-)

            i don't know if i like it until i read it...

          •  btw (0+ / 0-)

            the lie about why he left college may not be a lie either. But you might not want to hear about that right now...

            •  Well... (2+ / 0-)
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              Glen The Plumber, Puddytat

              ...when you start writing your own diaries you can write whatever you want. Until then, I am putting you down as a troll.

              "Republicans only care about the rich" - George W. Andersen - my late Father (-8.25, -7.85)

              by Mark E Andersen on Wed Feb 26, 2014 at 09:26:30 AM PST

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              •  Next time (0+ / 0-)

                just use examples that support your point, rather than undermine it.  It makes your argument stronger.

                There is criticism that is not trollish.

                •  Two things... (1+ / 0-)
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                  ...you need to go back to about 3rd grade and brush up on reading comprehension. It really isn't that difficult. And does your mother know about your pathetic cries for help? She should, after all you are in her basement using her internet.

                  "Republicans only care about the rich" - George W. Andersen - my late Father (-8.25, -7.85)

                  by Mark E Andersen on Wed Feb 26, 2014 at 11:25:18 AM PST

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                  •  you (0+ / 0-)

                    sound like a robot with the same old lying repuke/bagger talking points

                  •  My, but this conversation devolved into schoolyard (0+ / 0-)

                    behavior quite quickly!

                    Doing the mom's basement call is really rather low.

                    Granted, politicians lie. GOP politicians lie incessantly, even transparently. Walker lies pathologically.
                    Hell, if Pinocchio were real, Walker's nose would be snagging Alpha Centuri!

                    But, you did undermine yourself with the cop-out of "he didn't lie, but he would have".
                    That it is likely may well be true, however, one cannot predict with absolute certainty the actions of another.
                    Your points otherwise were quite valid and damning in and of themselves without proclaiming what the madman from Wisconsin would have done.

                    And for the record, my personal opinion of Walker is about as low as is possible for a human to garner. I have a higher opinion of Bin Laden than of Walker, may the crabs enjoy Bin Laden's company!

                    If the toxic one pisses you off, take a break instead of playing fifth grade schoolyard insult games.

                    •  I agree with you Wzrd1... (0+ / 0-)

                      It's been said that friends do two things for us: they support us, and they challenge us.  Support helps us with our emotional balance, but it is the challenge that keeps us growing.

                      Too many people I know want the support, but do their best to avoid the challenge.

                      I saw toxin's comments as a challenge, rather than a criticism.  I didn't take them personally, as I thought it was a fair challenge.  And if I had taken them personally, that would be my problem, and not his.

                      I saw a lot of comments in the diary about other people lying, but very little on Walker.  Living in Minnesota, I would have liked to have read more about Walker, and less about the past that I am already aware of.

                      From what little I've heard on WPR, the John Doe e-mails are like the tip of the iceberg, similar to the bridge scandal in Jersey.  I understand and empathize with the sentiments of the writer, but his comments were like an appetizer.  I want the full course dinner, ASAP, please and  thank you...

                •  good bye...again. (2+ / 0-)
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                  We are not broke, we are being robbed. ~Shop Kos Katalogue~

                  by Glen The Plumber on Wed Feb 26, 2014 at 12:31:00 PM PST

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        •  "If he lies so much, why not present examples" (0+ / 0-)

          Toxin, the writer of this diary DID present examples of "actual lies."  Did you not read the whole piece?  Try rereading paragraph four.

          You, on the other hand, are picking one point that wasn't even the writer's point and hammering on that.  The writer states that the "lie" about voting for Reagan was not a lie but a mistake, but that since Walker lies so much, nobody raised an eyebrow when it was claimed that he lied about it.

    •  I am reading here looking for new examples of (0+ / 0-)

      republican lies which are well documented.  Thanks for the nice job about defaults on debt.  I think we all have lots of evidence on Iraq and lies about ACA.  I bet these are not the only ones.  Just one thing - please give nice documented evidence, not just the lie.  This will be useful for people like me in arguing with republicans.  Oh we know we can't convince them.  But maybe we can convince some of the independents.  

      BTW, Toxin is right - please do not waste time on a lie and then tell us it was a transcript error.  

    •  lying (0+ / 0-)

      The Reagan thing is the only point you took from this diary?  How about all the other confirmed lies Walker has spewed to an unquestioning public?

      Some people simply ignore all facts unless there happens to be one that agrees with their ideology.  

  •  Democratic Pols could get the ball rolling (9+ / 0-)

    by calling bullshit (or at least liar) when R's barf the stuff out.  No euphemism, no polite skirting, no "L-Word" (not that L-Word, Liar) soft term for it.

    That, of course would require a Dem Pol with a spine...so...we're fuct.

  •  Your mom would have washed your mouth with soap (0+ / 0-)

    But, alas, the world doesn't have enough soap to wash all the Republican lying mouths.  Best just to vote Democratic and let the lying bastards find real work elsewhere.  Actual governing is much too important to have liars try to run things.  Next thing you know, they start stealing.

  •  We know that the GOP lies all the time (0+ / 0-)

    getting that fact out to the American people is what needs to be done and it will be all but impossible to do it. Our media is in the pocket of the rich who the Republicans lie for. Still we can try. If nothing else letters to the editor pointing out the lie with the facts and the source of the facts can't hurt and it is one thing that we can do!

    Dogs and Philosophers do the greatest good and get the fewest rewards (Diogenes)

    by Out There on Wed Feb 26, 2014 at 06:28:31 AM PST

  •  Hall of GOP Lying Shame (0+ / 0-)

    Don't forget "Mittens" Romney - his whole 2012 Presidential campaign (except for the "47%" pitch to donors secretly recorded in Boca Raton, FL.) was based on shameless lies as an acknowledged campaign strategy.

  •  Keep hammering this (0+ / 0-)

    We need to write, blog, tweet, post, and keep this lying sack of #%*}+ front and center.  Keep holding Walkers feet to the fire, because our WI media certainly won't.

    Wisconsin: It's war, you know. We didn't start it, but we'll keep fighting in it until we win

    by isewquilts2 on Wed Feb 26, 2014 at 07:15:32 AM PST

  •  A good example (0+ / 0-)

    would be Walkers April 2011 Congressional testimony that referred to His Conversation with Diane Hendrick's,  Remember Walker firing his Aide T. Palmisano over the racist tweets, If He has 0 tolerance for that, Shouldn't he have a New Staff?

  •  Small wonder (0+ / 0-)

    The problem with Democrats is that they don't 'correct' the record vociferously and repeatedly, if they ever confront the GOP lies.  Some of the lies, especially if they are aimed at the President of the United States, border onto being treasonous.  This is not to say that the Dems don't do a bit of embroidering themselves.  They do.  They are politicians after all.  But the Republicans are very quick to jump on those lies and make all lies practically impeachable offenses.  When the Dems allow the GOP to keep repeating the lies over and over before you know it the lies become the 'truth' to the average electorate.  Democrats just don't want to get down in the mud and duke it out with the liars in the GOP.  They insist on abiding by the Rules of Queensberry while the GOP are street fighters.

  •  Rules of Queensberry (0+ / 0-)

    The problem with the Democrats is that they allow the GOP to get away with lying.  The fact of the matter is if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the 'truth' to the average voter.  And the GOP gets away with repeating lies without being seriously challenged if challenged at all.  Some of the lies border onto being treasonous when they are directed at the President.  The Democrats insist on confronting the GOP figuratively  using the Rules of Queensberry whereas the GOP are street fighters.  It doesn't take a genius to determine which party's 'truth' will come out on top.

  •  Since Goldwater died (0+ / 0-)

    The only good Republican is a dead Republican.

  •  Walker even resembles Bush physcially! (0+ / 0-)

    Anyone who has followed WI politics for the past fifty years knows it has slid into the Wing nut Camp backwards.  From Progressive/Socialists leanings with men like LaFollete to the current crop of do nothing bassackwards idiots like Herb Kohl the Corporautocracy's choice and from Proxmire to Xtremists like the Judges who formerly showed some common sense like Ceci to Seraphim the landscape has been covered with dead bodies of minorities shot in the back and police corruption unparalleled in any but the largest cities like NY.  Milwaukee can't hold a candle to NYC in populations or demographics, but in crime and drug prosecution without conscience they stand out as the POLICE STATE they have become.

  •  How about a picture of an innocuous republican (0+ / 0-)

    (if there IS such a thing...!) and showing rabid foam coming out of his (or her!) mouth, with the caption.. "The result of a mouth washing with soap for lying, or rabies? - you decide!" perhaps THAT would get the message across...thoughts?

  •  Walker (0+ / 0-)

    Walker, like most Repugs, couldn't tell the truth if it was stuck up his tailpipe and turned ten times. Sh.. would still come out of his mouth

  •  Guess who campaigned for him? (1+ / 0-)
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    Chris Christie who has bee caught in many lies going back to his days as prosecutor!  What is it they say about birds of feather?

  •  Id say 'Tattoo it'— but… (0+ / 0-)

    Id say 'tattoo "LIAR"' on every repubs forehead, but… Then, in all fairness, whatd we do with Obama?

  •  liars (0+ / 0-)

      We don't have near enough soap!!

  •  A m a z e d - y e t ??? (1+ / 0-)
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    Isn't it totally strange as to how the likes of Christie, Walker, et al, can campaign with their highly generalize "cure-all" rhetoric and then, if elected, do whatever they wish to set their own agenda and execute it while trying to make us believe that it's what they were sent to do ???

    Are we really that easy?

  •  President? (1+ / 0-)
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    If the media comes to Wisconsin they will disabuse themselves of thinking of Scott Walker as a potential anything. The man is most surely a petulant juvenile delinquent, only accountable to Koch Brother's Sedition Syndicate.

    The only presidential position he qualifies for is CEO of the Liars Club. You wont find a more shifty, childish, and incompetent Governor north of the Mason-Dixon Line, or, perhaps, anywhere outside of Georgia.

    Walker's ideal Wisconsin would have to be renamed North Mississippi.

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