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Right now across the USA, and especially in Arizona where Janzilla just vetoed one hate the gay bill, and in Ohio where a similar bill was killed off yesterday before reaching a vote in light of the media and public outcry at goings on in Arizona, the Religulous Reich KristyHuns have set off the Outrage Foghorns and turned them up full blast.

Whine One One switchboards have been inundated with petulant whiny calls from butthurt Christian bigots screeching about how they are being persecuted by secularist anti-Christians, atheists, and all other supporters of the dreaded glitter and sequin adorned "gay agenda". Whole fleets of waaaaaaaahmbulances, specially outfitted with satellite feeds of looping Pat Robertson and Bryan Fischer fire and brimstone rants, are heading out to tend to the butthurt, top up their persecution complexes and feed their righteous outrage addictions.

Oh how they scream, rant and gnash their teeth. Religious Persecution they scream! You are hating on me for being a good god fearing Christian(tm). I am being persecuted for my Christian beliefs they screech!

Meanwhile, across the orange barbed wire separating Christian sado-masochistic persecution fantasy land from hard reality......

Down at Pisgah High School, Canton, North Carolina a young student approached his school administration with the idea to open a Secular Group for non-religious students at the school. The school Assistant Principal Connie Weeks at first said she would "look into" the application. Then after shilly shallying about as much as possible, she told the student that the application by the group was refused. She said they should just join a different club, because the secular club didn’t “fit in” to the community at Pisgah High School, and there were no faculty sponsors available.

The students, being a deal smarter than the AP, knew that their rights were being trampled on, and so they approached the Secular Student Alliance, a national non-profit organization that empowers high school and college students to build communities for nonreligious students. The SSA attempted to reach out to the school with a polite but firm letter setting out the law and pointing out that the school, in refusing to help or allow the group to form properly, was breaking the law.

The school administration ignored the letter.

This had dragged on so long the original student who made the application had graduated. But he passed the baton on to his 15 year old sister and fellow secularist Kalei Wilson. Kalei, with the full support of her brother and parents, kept the challenge going and through the SSA managed to get the Freedom From Religion Foundation and NC ACLU on board. They wrote a much stronger letter to the school pointing out the potential legal ramifications should they fail to comply with the law.

And of course by now what had once been a small internal matter for the school had turned into a national and international media story, much to the embarrassment of the school district, state and everyone involved in the schools stupidity. Even some Christian friends of Kalei lent support and spoke up on her behalf, much to their credit.

So the school caved in and reversed its decision, allowing Kalei and her fellow non religious students to set the group up. A victory for what is right and proper, common sense, and a tribute to the pluck and vim of young Kalei and her friends. Let the celebrations and congratulations commence.

Or Not

You see because of the fact young Kalei was brave and smart, and stood up for what is right, she and her family, and even her and the family's friends have been subjected to a campaign of threats and intimidation by so called good Christians. A campaign so vicious and bad that Kalei and her family feel so intimidated she has pulled out of forming the club and fundraising for its set up. Here is the statement from the fundraising page.

   It saddens us to report that due to the numerous threats and the verbal attacks on Kalei along with the vindictive which-hunt to hurt the reputations of affiliated local groups and our own family , Kalei will not be continuing with the group.

    We have contacted GoFundMe and requested they return your generous donations. They have assured us that your funds will show back up in your respective accounts within 3 to 5 days.

    Your love and support are priceless and we apologize in letting you down. It was our single goal to support Kalei in her efforts to start the much needed SSA club.

    However, we never expected our family and friends to be sought out and demonized. Please know that we recognize the importance of the club but we can not justify our involvement with the risk of our families safety and well being.

Now THAT my pedigree chums is what REAL religious persecution actually looks like.

Vicious, small minded, hateful buckle hatted bible bashing assholes intimidating non believers in an attempt to scare them into silence. Almost exclusively done, in the US at least, in Jesus' name by Christians to non Christians be they secularists, humanists, atheists or just members of another faith.

Of course, there is an established and well trodden 6 lane wide track history of this sort of persecution.

Ask Damon Fowler, Will Phillips or Jessica Ahlquhist.

Damon just protested against prayers being said at his graduation. After his graduation, at which police were in attendance to guarantee his safety in light of threats made against him, he was thrown out of his home by his so called good god fearing parents, driven out of town and now lives with relatives elsewhere.

Jessica protested against a Christian prayer banner at her school in Cranston, Rhode Island. The school eventually ended up in court and was forced to take the banner down as it was such an obvious and egregious breach of the Establishment Clause. Jessica was subjected to such a program of hate and threats she had police protection to and from school. After a mountain of threats posted to the schools own student message board, including threats to rape, beat and kill her, that police protection was extended to include accompanying her from class to class. Not only her fellow students, school admin and board jumped in on the hate, even the local mayor and state representative, who called her "an evil little thing", got on board with the hatin'. Jessica may have won, but it took a stack more bravery than most would have to weather the storm and come through smiling.

And then there is Will Phillips. Brave little 10 year old Will refused to stand and take the Pledge, as he rightly pointed out that the fact gay people were treated like second class citizens made that line about "Liberty And Justice For All" a damn hypocritical lie. Christians and right wing haters across the land bayed for Will and his family's blood. In the face of all the hate, threats and intimidation Will didn't surrender or give in, his family stood by him, and he won the day.

And just in case you think this is an isolated outbreak of Christian hate in North Carolina, may I recommend you watch the documentary In God We Trust by Scott Burdick - available online via YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/.... The documentary, in part, charts the self righteous Christian outrage and hate campaign leveled against the members of the King, NC secular group who protested against the Christian flag and paraphernalia draped all over the town war memorial. Seems that oldey timey pitchforks and torches Salem spirit lives on loud and proud down in NC.

These examples, and many many more, are what REAL religious persecution looks like. Whether its school kids like Kalei, Damon, Will and Jessica getting terrorised by Christians, members of secular groups fighting for their rights in the face of Christian hate and intimidation, or members of another faith just trying to set up a place to meet or worship in their own way the real religious persecution in the US runs mainly, almost exclusively, one way. FROM Christians and AGAINST all others.

So my pedigree chums, as we say over here in Limey Land, "Lead On McDuff".

Next time a whiny local fundy is bitching about how Christians are so persecuted, feel free to give them a verbal HitchSlap using any of the above examples of real and visceral religious persecution. Good luck trying, because their heads are so full of Faux Nooz, entrenched privilege, and religulous psycho-babble that you will need to knock all of that out before you can knock some sense in. Be prepared for the usual circular reasoning, loop logic and "No True Scotsman" defence. Just keep slapping them again and again till they shut up or waddle off to bitch and whine to their fellow bigots instead.

Chin chin mateys!

Originally posted to Dave The Sandman on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 06:17 AM PST.

Also republished by Street Prophets .

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  •  They are very screechy! (2+ / 0-)
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    And self-righteous and hypocritical and MEAN to the core.

    freedom and persecution

    Excellent diary!

  •  Those issuing threats should be tracked down and (7+ / 0-)

    prosecuted for hate crimes.  It's high times that "institutions" preaching this kind of hate be listed as hate groups and publicly identified as such.

    Ted Cruz president? Pardon my Vietnamese, but Ngo Pho King Way.

    by ZedMont on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 06:33:42 AM PST

  •  I am embarrasse all the time to call the south my (1+ / 0-)
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    home

  •  Excellent diary (1+ / 0-)
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    Your diary is raw and chilling for me to see the persecution on such a personal level and I agree that people who abuse, bully, and threaten others with rape, death, and any physical harm should be charged with assault or a hate crime.

    I am a Christian , and I try to live my faith everyday in that I try to be mindful of the needs of others. I don't know what rock these monsters crawled out from under, but they should go he way of Jim Jones.

    It is astonishing to me that the evil those cult followers commit is tolerated ANYWHERE in this country in this century.

    Those same infidels accuse the President of being the anti-Christ.

    Screw True the Vote
    Since only humans are permitted to vote, Jesus       needs to be a poll watcher so he disqualify them for
    their absence of humanity.

    Just unfathomable.

    Nauseating.

    "The devil can quote Scripture to serve his own purposes."

    by SpringHopeCarolina on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 08:03:20 AM PST

  •  Fools and their money (0+ / 0-)

    While those who spearhead anti-gay groups may actually believe the nonsense that comes out of their mouths, what they like best is getting paid to say it.

    Whole fleets of waaaaaaaahmbulances, specially outfitted with satellite feeds of looping Pat Robertson and Bryan Fischer fire and brimstone rants, are heading out to tend to the butthurt, top up their persecution complexes and feed their righteous outrage addictions.
    And those waaaaaaaahmbulance bills really add up.
  •  A friend of mine is doing a series (2+ / 0-)
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    of presentations to our local city council challenging their resolution and policy that created an Invocations system where local ministers are invited to present a prayer. In his first presentation, he offered statistics from the International Humanism and Ethical Union's 2013 world report on discrimination against atheists, agnostics, humanists and other freethinkers.  He tied these stats to the action of prayer in the city council session as discriminatory towards non-believers.  In his second presentation, he applied the Lemon test to the Resolution (from Lemon v. Kurtzman).  In his third presentation he pointed out that since all the churches in the county that get invitations are Christian, the prayers are all Christian and therefore endorse Christianity exclusively.  

    He is asking that the council go to a moment of silence instead.

    One council member finally spoke up and said since the area is a majority Christian, then that's what the city council should endorse, and then he questioned my friend's presentations as "tooting your own horn" and his character by accusing him of not doing anything good in the community.

    So when Christians claims persecution, I just want to throw up!

    •  Isn't the fact that this was stated (2+ / 0-)
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      One council member finally spoke up and said since the area is a majority Christian, then that's what the city council should endorse (emphasis mine)
      an admission that the city council violates the 1st Amendment very time they meet?
      •  Here is what the city council member said.... (0+ / 0-)

        "With all due respect to you, I totally disagree with you.  I’m not as learned as you.  You’ve obviously spent many, many hours in preparing all these brochures and literature for us to read.   And me being a Christian, I feel very strongly about what we do here, and I’ll continue to continue to do it.  Now I don’t know how these other men feel about it, ladies, but from the way I look at all these, at your suggestions to the Council to not do this, I totally disagree.

        I think, uh, I think prayer is a very important part of this founding of our country, and the things we do.  If it were not… and I would say to you until the Supreme Court comes out with a decision that says we can’t do this anymore, I’ll never vote against not opening this meeting with a prayer.  I’ll always continue to do it just as long as I sit on this council.

        I appreciate what you do; I just totally disagree with you.  And again, I, word for word, I can’t do anything like you’ve done.  I just know what’s gone on in my heart; what I believe.  You make reference to the 49 churches in our community.  And, I look at what all these people do in the name of the one you don’t really care to talk about.  But they contribute to this community – everything.  When people are down and out; when there’s fires in homes; when there’s disasters; when there’s sicknesses.  

        I feel like this community is a Christian community.  And that being the case, then I think that’s where I feel like our support ought to go.  And so therefore I’ll always support the Christian doctrine, and I don’t think… we don’t proselytize here.  We don’t try to.  I don’t think anyone’s ever made an effort to come down and lay hands on you and try to bring you to the Lord.  Nobody’s attempted to do that.  Nobody wants to.

         And there’s a lot of good people in our community who do good things who aren’t Christians, and I encourage them as well.  And I’m all for that.  And I think as a whole, our community is a great community.  And some of us are Christians, and some of us are not.  And I feel at this point we’re still a majority, and that being the case, people know where I stand on issues.  They know that I’m a Christian, and what I believe.  And that being the case, I think I’d be doing an injustice to my savior, to my Lord, if I didn’t do what I think ought to be done here.

        So therefore, I just say to you… I wish you would take some of this effort that you’re putting out here, and invest more in the community, and be more a part of the things that go on here, other than, you know, tootin’ your horn.

        You know, I just… and please forgive me for being kind of crude with the way I worded this, but that’s just my feelings.  That’s just where I am."

        We have recorded all the prayers said, my friend's presentations and this response. My friend is not done yet and the next speech will be very interesting.  So when SCOTUS comes out with the Greece v. Galloway decision, we will be ready.

        •  So much wrong in what he said (0+ / 0-)
          And me being a Christian, I feel very strongly about what we do here, and I’ll continue to continue to do it.
          (Does his "feel[ing] very strongly about what we do here" rely on his being a Christian? Is he saying that if he were not a Christian, he wouldn't care about what the council does?)

          What occurs at a city council meeting should be based on the city's programs and the published agenda, not any council member's personal agenda, and it should not disparage the personal beliefs of any citizen in the process.

          I feel like this community is a Christian community.
          In all likelihood, it is actually a legally recognized incorporated city that is neither beholden to, nor a member of, any religious predilection.
          But they contribute to this community – everything.
          And I'm very glad to hear that they do. But that shouldn't buy them special privileges.
          And some of us are Christians, and some of us are not.
          Well, DUH!!!
          •  This is what atheists and religious minorities (0+ / 0-)

            are faced with every day in the US.  

            And I don't think the US Supreme Court is going to fix it. In fact there is a good chance they will make it worse.

            •  It's hard to tell what the SCOTUS will do (0+ / 0-)

              with any case it hears, but the good part is they continue to hear successive cases when the arguments and the circumstances present a different angle. And sometimes they correct themselves. So we keep fighting the fight.

              •  Well if you read the transcript (0+ / 0-)

                of the arguments in Greece v. Galloway, you see that the Justices realize that past decisions have painted them into a corner. If they define boundaries around what can and can't be said in a prayer (ie. no "in Jesus name") then they are violating the prohibition for government on censoring religious speech. But if they allow prayers to have any content the speaker wants, then the prayers become sectarian, which also violates the Bill of Rights. And then there is the "problem of the atheists", which made for a lively exchange.

                It's really worth reading.

                •  Any chance they'll come back and say (0+ / 0-)

                  "This long-standing tradition was the wrong approach from the start"?

                  No, of course not - I did catch the statement by one of the Justices that invoking a deity is )paraphrasing) "part of who many of us are" and to ask civil servants in government positions to not be who they are would be unrealistic.

                  Personally, I don't think so. I think the following would work for just about anyone --

                  We open this meeting with the following supplication:

                  That all those attending, speaking, and/or presiding remember the purposes of this gathering: to advance the general well-being of the citizens of our community (state, country, etc) thru the management and maintenance of the rules and laws under which we all live; that the most effective way to accomplish this venture is by speaking, listening, and eventually deciding issues with the respect, consideration, and appreciation that every person in this community deserves.

                  All those who require the intervention of a power outside themselves in order to accomplish this, please use the following moment of silence to do so.

  •  I also want to point out that (2+ / 0-)
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    it was these very types of Christians who got the courts to back them on having after school bible clubs (please read Katherine Stewart's The Good News Club).  But because of the court's wording on this issue these clever Christianistas inadvertantly opened the door that allows secular clubs to also form in public schools.  Now they are screaming about the results and trying to block these clubs.  Too bad for them, as there is nothing they can do and the law is behind students like Kalei Wilson.

    Now the Student Secular Society is seeing lots of applications to help start secular clubs in public schools. I love it.

  •  Then there was the recent news story in another (2+ / 0-)
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    Bible Belt state where the school administration told a student of another faith that they should transfer to a different school if they didn't like the fundamentalist Christian prayers and other official actions during the school day.

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