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Tell me I'm not reading this right. I am happy to be wrong. But I don't think I am. And if I'm not, we need your help!

While Floridians have gotten medical marijuana on the November ballot, the current legislature appears to be trying to do an end run around it's usefulness. Bills have been introduced in both the Florida Senate and the House, which essentially limit "medical grade marijuana" to a substance that contains no more than 0.5 percent or less of any THC and at least 15 percent cannabidiol.

A substance. A. The letter A is really important here. In the world of marijuana, there's a grade called Charlotte's Web. Charlotte's Web is to typical marijuana--whether it's the truly medicinal type you get from a clinic or a doctor or the kind that comes from Joe Blow from Kokomo and his basement grow-room--as 3.2 beer is to Coors Light. That's about the only grade of "marijuana" you can get to smoke which meets this criteria:

0.5 percent or less of any THC and at least 15 percent cannabidiol (CBD).
Obviously, you can get this dose in a pill form. But it's practically worthless overall, if that dose in that form isn't going to help medicate what ails you. Let me let a professional explain it better:
Patients across the state are thrilled Legislators are beginning to realize the awesomeness of medical use of cannabis. What they fail to realize is just as the children with seizures get miraculous benefits from a high CBD/low THC strain of cannabis, that is one strain and one ailment. The rest of the patients gain just as miraculous benefits for their ailments with other strains.The rest of the patients need the rest of the medicine.
The current legislature has taken this restriction up in the form of two bills, FL SB 1030, and FL HB 843. You and me and anyone else who wants to see medical marijuana statutes be worth the paper they're printed on in the state of Florida need to get on the phone ASAP and call your Florida Senator and Representative--and email them while you're at it--and tell them to defeat this nonsense and support SB 962 – Medical Use of Cannabis. That is the responsible piece of legislation and is meant to legalize all the medicine for all the patients, as the writer says.

We NEED your voice, it is critical that this sneaky subterfuge not be allowed to stand.

Contact your Rep here.

Contact your Senator here.

Let me note now, so no one gets confused--the quoted paragraph from the "professional", and the link, came from a news site over in the next county from me. The gist of the actual story is about our pols "ethical dilemma" (and how they're seeking spiritual guidance) on legalizing A Drug. The paragraph above is part of a comment in response to that article. And the comment itself is amazingly full of excellent medical information, along with the information which alerted me to this situation. The author posted at 11:01 pm on 2/25, I urge you to read her post! (I can't link it separately).

What irritates me so completely is that this "news story" makes no mention of this anywhere. And I haven't seen this anywhere else, but I looked up the legislation and there it was--it appears exactly as the comment describes it.

I searched and didn't find this posted already by anyone else (wondering how I could possibly know this while SemDem doesn't??!). Please, please, if I'm wrong, tell me and I'll take this diary down--in the morning. I'll be back later, but I had to get this posted. I'm going to go facepalm into my pillow now...

Originally posted to lunachickie on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 PM PST.

Also republished by DKos Cannabis Law and Drug War Reform and DKos Florida.

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  •  Extra tips for... (9+ / 0-)

    You gotta be kidding me???

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 12:01:19 AM PST

  •  "Watering down" is an alcohol metaphor (4+ / 0-)
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    HoundDog, lunachickie, CenPhx, peacestpete

    I think the term for weed is "adulterated"

    Quote of the week: "They call themselves bipartisan because they're able to buy members of both parties," (R. Eskow, Campaign for America's Future.)

    by mbayrob on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 12:19:55 AM PST

  •  republicans..... (5+ / 0-)

    Hateful fucking morons.

    Legal means "good".
    [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

    by xxdr zombiexx on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 03:58:25 AM PST

    •  makes me wonder (4+ / 0-)

      how much money in bribes the prison industry (and others with a vested interest in squashing this) are funneling to our corrupt legislature.

      Not the first time the legislature ignores the will of the people.  Hopefully if they screw with this it awakes the sleeping liberal majority in this state.  A boy can dream, right?

      •  "Bribes" are small time (2+ / 0-)
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        lunachickie, FloridaSNMOM

        Full-on corrupt pipeline.

        I am all for awakening the sleeping liberal majority, but they'll have to do something more than besiege the phone lines.

        Legal means "good".
        [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

        by xxdr zombiexx on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 05:06:10 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  Between the prison industry and (0+ / 0-)

        Big Pharma, the Big Money is continually flowing so that bills about marijuana are increasingly watered down.

        When Prop 215 was created, regarding medicinal marijuana here in California, its language was elegant and simple. And state law is supposed to follow the letter and spirit of intent of the Proposition.

        But Calif. state law allowed for planning boards and city commissioners etc to weigh in and pass local regulations that stipulate where pot dispensaries can be located. In the case of the city of Fair Oaks, dispensaries are banned and no one is supposed to grow any pot within the city limits. Many cities have dispensaries that now need to serve over 45,000 people, as the other dispensaries got closed.

        So what I am saying is this: even after the perfect wording of the perfect measure gets on the ballot, and gets approved by a majority of voters, there are still five dozen ways till Sunday for how the rights the new law would give you can be relinquished.

  •  Perhaps they are (5+ / 0-)

    watering down the legislatures bill that they proposed only because they were shamed into it by the parents of sick and dying children?

    I don't see how they can water down the proposed amendment that Florida citizens have collected and should be on the ballot in November. BTW, did it ever feel good signing that petition.

    "If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading."- Lao-Tzu

    by Pakalolo on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 04:27:31 AM PST

  •  The last gasp (2+ / 0-)
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    lunachickie, RMForbes

    of the drug warriors is to claim that the only medically useful cannabis is this high CBD stuff. Why? Because it doesn't get you high, that's why. Of course, as you point out, the high CBD weed is useful for only a few ailments, while normal cannabis, the kind that is high in THC, has been used for centuries as medicine and is far more effective against most ailments.

    High CBD weed is a new development.

    In MI the Republicans have done their best to interfere with the medical cannabis initiative passed by voters in 2008, going to court to prevent most dispensaries from operating. Fortunately MI law forbids them from restricting the scope of voter passed initiatives, but that hasn't stopped them from trying.

    "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

    by happy camper on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 06:52:12 AM PST

    •  Actually the high THC stuff is a more recent (1+ / 0-)
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      development created by the criminalization/prohibition of the entire genus of cannabis plants. Plus, cannabinoids don't really have separate medicinal benefits, they create greater medical benefits together than they would separately. The herbal cannabinoids found in cannabis resins are somewhat unique in that they seem work together in concert to produce greater benefit.  

      Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

      by RMForbes on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:57:27 AM PST

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      •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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        cannabinoids don't really have separate medicinal benefits, they create greater medical benefits together than they would separately
        Everything I've seen on this differentiation essentially refers to this "dose" as "hemp-strength". It's useless to most people who need real THC in sufficient quantity in their medicinal marijuana.

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 10:45:51 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  The low CBD concentration strains are not all that (1+ / 0-)
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          lunachickie

          great either. Without CBD the THC high becomes quite harsh and unpleasant. Both, or more accurately, all the herbal cannabinoids together are necessary for both high quality medicinal and recreational strains. Herbal cannabis is like Buddhism...the middle path is the way to go.

          Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

          by RMForbes on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 11:07:52 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  None of this comes as a surprise, because Florida (1+ / 0-)
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    RMForbes

    “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

    by 420 forever on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:04:52 AM PST

    •  Because Republican Control (1+ / 0-)
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      420 forever

      OMG, I'm all over this shit like a cheap suit in my own Real Life circle. And so far, everyone I've talked to about it this morning has had no idea this is happening.

      Imagine that? Bet if I turned on the mighty Orlando NewsChannel 13 right now, it wouldn't be one of their stories...

      This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

      by lunachickie on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:39:49 AM PST

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  •  It's similar to what some states are doing ... (2+ / 0-)
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    lunachickie, RMForbes

    with abortion. Abortion is federally legal, but some states shut down all of the clinics to in effect make abortions unavailable. With marijuana the citizens of a state make marijuana legal, but the state legislature creates a roadblock for its use in the state by requiring unattainable CBD and THC levels for the strains, thus making marijuana unavailable to the public...assholes with their heads up their asses.


    Who told the Greeks they were any good at making yogurt?

    by glb3 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:15:49 AM PST

  •  Just another gross misunderstanding created by (1+ / 0-)
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    lunachickie

    the mythology of marijuana. Even if a strain of herbal cannabis had very high concentrations of THC (10% to 15%), if that strain also had a very high concentration of CBD or Cannabidiol it still wouldn't produce much of a THC high while having the medicinal value of both of these cannabinoids.

    It's true that THC produces the high but CBD is called the Anti-THC because it moderates the THC high without altering the THC at all. The more than 80 herbal cannabinoids found in cannabis resins work together in concert to produce more significant medicinal value than the separated synthesized cannabinoids. There is no real reason to limit THC if the strain of herbal cannabis has a CBD to THC ratio greater than one.

    This Florida Law is just another case of the ignorance created by the propaganda and the mythology of marijuana. But it is getting better because at least the prohibitionists are beginning to acknowledge that cannabinoids are the actual drugs found in cannabis resins. That is at least a beginning.

    Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

    by RMForbes on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:45:34 AM PST

  •  There has to be a way to get these turds out of (1+ / 0-)
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    lunachickie

    office and take back the majority in the statehouse. Thanks for info.

    "No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar." Abraham Lincoln

    by appledown on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 09:23:09 AM PST

    •  Help us get the word out on this (0+ / 0-)

      Trust me, a lot of Floridians want this for a lot of reasons--this is a huge issue here. Putting this information out there will definitely wake a few folks up that they need to, um, flush the offices, as it were ;)

      This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

      by lunachickie on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 11:33:20 AM PST

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  •  These Joe Blows from Kokomo? (0+ / 0-)

    Kokomo, Indiana, is a real place, not a joke. A place full of Republicans, and one of the few towns around here with an actual Klan chapter to this day.

    Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

    by Mokurai on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 10:43:27 PM PST

  •  This story explains more of the politics (0+ / 0-)

    around Charlotte's Web vs. full medical marijuana. The headline is rubbish.

    Florida Republicans soften stand on medical marijuana

    Don Gaetz, now the Republican Florida Senate president, once helped a friend get full-strength marijuana to deal with nausea from terminal cancer, but is only willing to talk about legalizing Charlotte's Web. Beats me.

    At the same time, a stream of regular families has poured into the Capitol to put nonpolitical faces on the issue.

    Surrounded by families with debilitating or fatal ailments, Sen. Jeff Clemens, D-Lake Worth, and Rep. Joe Saunders, D-Orlando, last week unveiled legislation that would regulate marijuana farmers, distributors and doctors prescribing it.

    Gaetz, R-Niceville [sic], calls the Morgan amendment a "tactic" to drive more Democrats to the polls to support his employee, former Gov. Charlie Crist, in his gubernatorial face-off with Gov. Rick Scott.

    Very personal, very Florida nasty.

    Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

    by Mokurai on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 10:52:39 PM PST

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