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Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Here's a sudden and uncharacteristic gust of honesty from Rep. Paul Ryan: House Republicans can't come up with a comprehensive replacement plan for Obamacare. Speaking on Bill Bennett’s Morning in America radio show on Wednesday, the House Budget Chairman contradicted what Majority Leader Eric Cantor promised a few short weeks ago: that House Republicans would create a plan and would pass it.
RYAN: There are a lot of folks and many of us are working on various alternatives. There are good conservatives who just have various different ways of putting an alternative out there. So what I look at is, it’s not just one singular alternative that we have right now, it’s five or six, but in all of those alternatives there are a lot of common policies and themes and what you’ll see the House doing is passing individual reforms—you know one a week—on these common themes, these common policies we agree to, because we’re not going to say, look here is our big, you know, Republican version of Obamacare, here is what we should have done in the first place and we’ll do it step-by-step and then if you want to look at what a comprehensive alternative looks like, there are a lot of people who are offering those visions.
This week's step-by-step "reform" appears to be Rep. Dave Camp's legislation to delay the individual mandate for five years, in return for funding the perennial Republican hostage, the Medicare "doc fix," avoiding a 24 percent cut in physician payments. The CBO says that, yes indeed, delaying the mandate by five years would cut enough spending—$170 billion—to pay for the $138 billion "doc fix."

Here's what else the CBO says about this incremental health care "reform" fix that Republicans cooked up: It would increase the number of uninsured by about 13 million people by 2018. That would leave us with 43 million people uninsured. Among that group would be about 5 million left out of Medicaid and CHIP, one million who wouldn't be getting employer-based coverage, and 7 million not getting coverage in the individual market. Also, too, they estimate that premiums in the individual market would increase from 10 to 20 percent. Man, this is getting expensive.

What the last five years has proved, time and again, is that the Republicans don't actually buy the idea that we need health insurance reform. That's one of the reasons they can't for the life of them actually come up with any kind of system reform. For them, 43 million uninsured Americans just isn't a problem.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 10:37 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (34+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 10:37:21 AM PDT

  •  Rub his big nose in it! n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    mjbleo, flycaster, Calamity Jean

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40:58 AM PDT

  •  The big plan is repeal period; they got nothing (3+ / 0-)

    Because they want us to have nothing.

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 10:49:07 AM PDT

  •  The deuce you say!! (5+ / 0-)
    No, we really don't have an Obamacare replacement plan
    And I'm shocked, shocked to discover gambling occurring at this casino.
  •  That this risible nitwit is considered the GOPs... (10+ / 0-)

    ...'big ideas guy' tells you everything you need to know about the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the GOP.

    Ryan is a devotee of the charlatan Ayn Rand and a self-professed 'devout' Catholic. The poor cluck is too dim to understand that they cancel each other out: you can be one or the other but not both.

    What a loathsome little shit-stain Ryan is.

    Lightly Seared On The Reality Grill

    by Retroactive Genius on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 10:58:58 AM PDT

    •  And yet it is so simple (0+ / 0-)

      Expand the VA model to everyone. Everyone pays a deduction to be covered.  Most hospitals mean veterans will not have to travel so far to get care, and have more doctors.  If you are a veteran you don't pay a fee or pay a reduced fee.  If you want additional insurance, you buy it.  if you want to go to your doctor, you pay for it.  But everyone is covered.  

      And no one can say how much government is because it has been good enough for the like the McCain family for generations.

  •  "Ya' mean we haz to have sumpin' (1+ / 0-)
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    better or we can't throw rocks?"

    What a transparent lightweight!

  •  so lets play this doc fix out? (1+ / 0-)
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    Navy Vet Terp

    if the GOPers take the Senate in 2014, they will attach both of the Camp plan on delaying the mandate and the "doc fix" to the next debt ceiling increase, and then dare Obama to veto it.

    can't emphasize enough how important it is that we hold the Senate this year.

    •  The DCCC need to hammer this point . . . (1+ / 0-)
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      home.  again and again.

      Use hard hitting ads.

      For DCCC use ads like Representative X voted 50 times to take away:
      1) Parental option for adults under 26.
      2) Removal of lifetime limits.
      3) Removal of pre-exisiting confitions for insurance.


      Close the ad with "and what has representive X proposed to replace this with. In words of Paul Ryan "we’re not going to say, look here is our big, you know, Republican version of Obamacare"

      Representative X is he/she really looking out for you.

  •  Thanks Joan for your watchful eye and clear voice. (0+ / 0-)
  •  See also Clues-Lack of possession. nt (1+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 06:10:27 PM PDT

  •  Republican Health Plan (0+ / 0-)
    Ryan says the republicans don't have a health plan because the Party never wanted a health plan to start with.
  •  They've had 5 years! (1+ / 0-)
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    Navy Vet Terp

    Where's their plan that covers more people than Obamacare has?

    All Republicans do is TALK, while Americans needlessly SUFFER and DIE.

    Democrats led America forward, while the Republicans did everything they could to stop meaningful reform. America voted for reform in 2008, and again in 2012, yet to this day, all they care about is rolling back life giving reform, not leading America forward to a healthier, more prosperous future.

    Republicans offer America no solutions. No leadership. No future.

    Just say NO to the Party of No.

  •  Any republicans who says (0+ / 0-)

    he believes in any other system than the one we have is lying. Republicans love financial systems where huge sums of money can be hidden and obscured. They actually like the system where no one really knows the true price of, say, gall bladder removal. They like a system where neither insurers or hospitals will tell you how much procedures are going to cost.  Because when you can charge an artificial price for a product and launder it through the insurance company you can pad it for any number of purposes. It always goes back to super complex accounting so that crooks can hide their soft money.

    "I feel badly about the kids," the unknown person said. "I guess." [but] "They are [only] the children of Buono voters," Wildstein replied.

    by plok on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 06:14:37 PM PDT

  •  I just don't get (0+ / 0-)

    Why the extensions?  If everyone were forced, under penalty of law, had insurance through an exchange or an employer then all would be covered. WTF?

    You best believe it does

    by HangsLeft on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 06:17:34 PM PDT

  •  That's "Dog whistle blowing Paul Ryan" to you. (1+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean

    Fuck that bigot and anything he has to say.

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 06:26:03 PM PDT

  •  Reminds me of an old song. (0+ / 0-)

    Yes! We have no bananas!
    We have no bananas today!

    I'm not always political, but when I am I vote Democratic. Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 06:26:10 PM PDT

  •  What a maroon. (0+ / 0-)

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 06:30:17 PM PDT

  •  Typical baffle-gab from Ryan & other GOPers (1+ / 0-)
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    stone clearing

    The almost incomprehensiblie explanation reveals sloppy--almost non-existent--clarity of thinking.

  •  I listened to Republican anger and lies this AM (1+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean

    on C-Span as some committee grilled Kathleen Sebelius.   Rs have anger issues. I'm available to talk to anyone who wants to about my daughter in law with MS who was able to get a good policy even with her pre-existing condition, as a result of ObamaCare.

    It is ridiculous to pretend that firing teachers based on student test scores, starting charter schools, giving out vouchers or implementing merit pay will overcome the challenges facing a child living in poverty. -Jersey Jazzman

    by Desert Rose on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 06:35:28 PM PDT

  •  It's the economy stupid... (0+ / 0-)

    It's amazing how the GOP thinks that banning abortion and doing away with Obamacare are our number one priorities, as well as more tax cuts for the wealthy.

    There are many recent college grads and older workers just unable to find any decent work, or any work.

    The Dems say that the affordable healthcare act helps the economy by bringing down health care costs and helps businesses keep costs down for their employees healthcare, all true.  We also push extended unemployment benefits, a higher minimum wage and not cutting social security.  

    These are all things discussed on this political website, because we all have opinions and enjoy the discussion, and, we can't just discuss politics in a vacuum.  We need to understand the issues so we can understand the politics.  

    Imagine if we pushed to expand Social Security, increase benefits, which would help older workers retire. And open up jobs for the unemployed.  But, our party leadership is always in a defense mode.  

    Raising minimum wage also has it's obvious benefits. Continually focusing on unemployment benefits instead of job creation isn't such a long term winner for our party and country.

    I guess what I'm really getting at, is that if I am 25 years old, a college grad, unemployed and living with my
    parents, neither party is really talking about jobs and the economy.  If our economy is over regulated, let's dialogue.

    If our corporate model is disfunctional, let's find better business models and encourage them.

    Both parties are spinning their wheels, and a progressive business agenda should be part of our overall progressive agenda.  

    So, how is a job created?

  •  Giving Ted Cruz this much... (1+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean

    At least he's honest in saying the actual GOP plan consists only of repealing the ACA. Period.

    And we all go back to the old status quo of skyrocketing premiums, arbitrary coverage denials, pre-existing condition denials, yearly and lifetime caps, and health insurance handcuffs for anybody sick but having a job they hate, just for the sake of keeping that insurance.

    Ryan on the other hand doesn't even have the guts to say what he really means.

    "Don't ride in anything with a Capissen 38 engine. They fall right out of the sky." -- Kaywinnit Lee Frye

    by Technowitch on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 08:23:43 PM PDT

  •  It doesn't matter... (0+ / 0-)

    that Ryan and Co have nothing.  They will run on Obama is The Problem and win plenty of seats, likely enough to win the Senate.  America is that stupid.  

  •  GOP: Healthcare is a privilege. (0+ / 0-)

    Screw that "promote the general welfare" thing. What does that have to do with healthcare?

  •  paul ryan (0+ / 0-)

    Hey guy, here is a clue dude...put up or SHUT UP.

  •  The other reason they are finding this so hard is (0+ / 0-)

    The PPACA IS their plan, we took all their good ideas from the last 3 decades and jammed them into the PPACA. So of course they are having trouble coming up with an alternative.

    New Plan: Obamacare Old Plan: Nobodycares

    by groupw on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 10:47:36 AM PDT

  •  repig repugnance (0+ / 0-)

    here is a novel idea you fuckin idiots in the repig party:THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME HEALTH BENEFITS AS YOU. that is because THE PEOPLE PAY THE BILLS.NOT YOU.we all know that there is not a single politician that cares about their constituents because they are too busy answering to their CORPORATE DONORS and looking out for their interests.single payer is the way to go.even the AMA likes that idea(the largest lobbying group).what we need to do is link CAMPAIGN REFORM to this,as they all answer to the money donors,who keep them in office and WORKING CLASS MINDS in the streets.and by the way,the democrats are not any better than the repigs.the repigs are just not as smart in hiding THE HIDDEN AGENDA.

  •  Ryan et al... (0+ / 0-)

    ...don't have a plan because they don't WANT a plan. They want us plebeians to just hurry up and die, and make sure we will them our money along the way. Then they can replace us with illegal immigrants and kill them slowly as well.

    The perfect Republimoron plan: kill the poor, and then the rich will own EVERYTHING!  And have a bunch of immigrant slaves to do the work for nothing.

  •  How to tell when some one is full of $hit: (0+ / 0-)

    1.  When they say stuff like, "Well, you know, we've got a big crew consisting of large numbers of groups of lots of people with several multiple various different ideas and methods and concepts and plans and ways to deal with this in a way that works in a functional, operational way to be sure that we can solve this thing with solutions..."
    They're pretty much just vomiting word salad hoping that nobody notices that there is ZERO actual content or meaning in what they just said.  

    2.  When they're Paul Ryan.

  •  When I went without Healthcare for 5 years... (0+ / 0-)

    recently, all during this debate, when I did go to the doctor and they asked me what my Insurance was, I told them;
    NO Cross of Florida, and Not-A-Care.  It was fun to watch the faces of everyone in the waiting room at the doctor's office when I announced this loud enough for Washington D.C. to hear me.

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