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Jackson Lears reviews Doris Kearns Goodwin's The Bully Pulpit: Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, and the Golden Age of Journalism, calling it a "thoroughly mediocre book":

It is no secret that we are living in a second Gilded Age—another era, like the first, of corrupt rule by plutocratic elites. What is less clear is how to end it. Without assuming that one can draw simple “lessons” from history, we might begin by exploring how we ended it the first time, by discovering how reformers redeemed democracy—or at least some semblance of it—from crony capitalism. How did the Gilded Age become the Progressive Era? 

At the core of that transformation was a widespread revulsion from plutocracy, a desire to promote a larger public interest—a reassertion of commonwealth against wealth as a standard of value. A hundred years ago, this agenda animated millions of Americans. A clear majority of the electorate considered themselves “progressive.” But the word was elastic enough to contain everyone from Eastern patricians to Nebraska wheat farmers and small-town attorneys in Georgia. Walter Lippmann was a progressive, but so were William Jennings Bryan and Pitchfork Ben Tillman. The progressive notion of “the public” was as shadowy and ubiquitous as the contemporary politician’s notion of the “middle class.”

The most popular contemporary version of progressive reform—at least inside the Beltway—puts Theodore Roosevelt at the center of events, leading insurgent Republicans against the party’s Old Guard, consolidating progressive gains during his presidency, and passing the baton to his successor William Howard Taft—and then, frustrated by Taft’s persistent conservatism, running for president as the candidate of a new Progressive Party and losing to another progressive, Woodrow Wilson, in 1912. This is the story retold by Doris Kearns Goodwin in her thoroughly mediocre book. The narrative is easily assimilated to contemporary centrist wisdom about the need for a bipartisan Third Way, an alternative to the endless bickering of Republicans and Democrats. On this view, progressive reform was commanded by metropolitan elites with a sense of noblesse oblige—Roosevelt epitomized the type—men who translated the public interest into the emerging idiom of managerial expertise, who found neutral technicians to staff the regulatory commissions that would (the reformers hoped) cleanse capitalism of its excesses. This benign managerial vision, according to the centrist narrative, is what we need to revitalize contemporary public life.

No one can deny the importance of noblesse oblige to a healthy political culture, or discount its steady disappearance in our own time. But a focus on Roosevelt and the Republican Party obscures the origins of progressive reform, as well as the most persistent sources of its strength. The effort to tame unbridled capitalism originated not in the mind of Theodore Roosevelt but in the rural Midwest and South—in the Populist movement of the 1890s. It was absorbed and carried forward by the populist wing of the Democratic Party. Under Bryan’s leadership, the Democrats took a left turn in 1896; they remained committed to a progressive agenda until World War I. Bryan epitomized the rural roots of reform: like other populist progressives, he proposed ending special privilege through statutory regulation (passing laws against corrupt or monopolistic practices and jailing the people who violated them) rather than discretionary regulation (giving expert commissions the power to decide how best to manage corporate malpractice). Populist progressives recognized from the outset that an expert commission could be captured by the very industry it was meant to regulate. They were more realistic about power than the managerial progressives. […] 


Blast from the Past. At Daily Kos on this date in 2003Blair steels himself for 2-front war:

Bush claimed he had nine, or at least eight votes in the UN Security Council. He lied. He said he would force a UN vote to force countries to "show their hand". He lied. As the US and UK come to terms with their massive diplomatic failure, both countries turn to building legitimacy for their invasion.

In the UK, Blair is steeling himself for the resignation of Robin Cook and Clare Short -- an icon of the Labour Party left. And the rebellion amongst Labour Members of Parliament is growing, with more MPs ready to vote against Blair when he introduces his war resolution.

There have been threats that people will lose their jobs,' said Graham Allen, Nottingham MP and a leading figure among those seeking to launch a rebel amendment against the Government. 'They are telling people that the PM needs their loyalty. People are being put in a very difficult position.' Allen, Chris Smith, the former Culture Secretary who led the last rebellion, and Peter Kilfoyle, the former Defence Secretary, will put down an amendment to the Government's position; 200 MPs could rebel. A number of Ministers below Cabinet rank are likely to resign.

Tweet of the Day:

Amazing to hear the excited tone of war rhetoric on gasbag shows today - almost 11 years to the day of Iraq invasion. #somethingsneverchange
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  •  Let's help our own Tonyahky (13+ / 0-)

    JekyllnHyde has an excellent diary posted.

    Let's all do what we can: Read, Rec, Donate (if possible).  And keep our beloved Tonyahky in our thoughts and prayers.

    Be sure you put your feet in the right place; then stand firm. ~ Abraham Lincoln

    by noweasels on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:09:44 PM PDT

    •  Thank You, noweasels (12+ / 0-)

      Please try to keep it on the Rec List through the night - Down and Out in Richmond, Kentucky: One of Our Own Desperately Needs a Helping Hand.

      This diary covers a fair bit of ground.  Above all, it is about showing compassion to those amongst us who deserve it the most.  It also makes references to two of the great books of the 20th century.  Both authors - George Orwell and F. Scott Fitzgerald - wrote brilliantly about the human condition.

      Even you can't make a donation, I hope you'll support it (and promote the diary on Twitter and Facebook) for it is for a very worthwhile cause.  Many thanks.

      Here's an excerpt:

      For those of us who have been fortunate enough to have healthy children; possess a college degree, even post-graduate degrees; hold steady jobs, or own businesses; and perhaps be privileged enough to have inherited some money, we should count our blessings and consider ourselves lucky.  Many of our fellow citizens have absolutely nothing. Even with lots of people enrolling through the Affordable Care Act, millions more remain ineligible and will have to survive without health insurance coverage.  It is not too much of an exaggeration to assert that they are one major illness away from economic catastrophe or bankruptcy.  A bit of bad luck here and there and many of us could as easily be in that unenviable position.

      It will probably not surprise you that every time we make an appeal like this, it is almost always for a female community member.  The reasons should be obvious to anyone who follows domestic politics - even on a casual basis.  It should not only be a policy concern for legislators, but outrage everyone with a sense of decency and fairness.

  •  whoa...technocratic centrism sounding familiar (8+ / 0-)

    OTOH understandable for a (Brookylyn) Dodgers fan BTW, Jackson Lears is worth your time particularly his short work on counter-hegemony

    This is the story retold by Doris Kearns Goodwin in her thoroughly mediocre book. The narrative is easily assimilated to contemporary centrist wisdom about the need for a bipartisan Third Way, an alternative to the endless bickering of Republicans and Democrats. On this view, progressive reform was commanded by metropolitan elites with a sense of noblesse oblige—Roosevelt epitomized the type—men who translated the public interest into the emerging idiom of managerial expertise, who found neutral technicians to staff the regulatory commissions that would (the reformers hoped) cleanse capitalism of its excesses. This benign managerial vision, according to the centrist narrative, is what we need to revitalize contemporary public life.

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:12:16 PM PDT

    •  link The Concept of Cultural Hegemony (7+ / 0-)

      Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

      by annieli on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:23:38 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  A few more paras in we get this: (10+ / 0-)
      Yet a major part of that coalition was the Jim Crow South. The coexistence of conflicting social visions—of racial hierarchy and economic equality—underscores the tragic paradox of the progressive tradition in twentieth-century America. The reforms that created the foundations for an American version of the welfare state—first in the Progressive Era, later during the New Deal—were dependent on keeping race off the table. When Jesus was a Democrat, all the Democrats were white. This may help to explain the persistently awkward fit in American politics between the ideals of racial and economic equality, despite their indisputable interdependence. As the nineteenth century became the twentieth, progressive reformers began a long tradition of ignoring the complementarity of race and class privilege. Ever since, for critics of status quo power arrangements in America, talking about class has been a way of not talking about race—and vice versa.

      The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

      by Azazello on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:26:23 PM PDT

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      •  so damn true often even in DK (7+ / 0-)
        Ever since, for critics of status quo power arrangements in America, talking about class has been a way of not talking about race—and vice versa.

        Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

        by annieli on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:27:40 PM PDT

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      •  It was even worse than this (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Azazello

        see my comment below.

      •  Unfortunately, civil rights reform did undermine.. (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Azazello, Jay C

        ...progressive reform - it's what enabled Richard Nixon to break off working-class and southern whites from the New Deal coalition and permit conservatives within the GOP to create a large enough counter-progressive power base to dominate the political landscape for most of the years after 1980.

        This isn't to argue whatsoever that the civil rights reforms of the 1950s and 1960s were anything less than a justified, necessary goal and achievement, but at the same time they did come at a generational cost (as LBJ himself recognized when he said he'd just delivered the south to the GOP for a generation) that we are only now beginning to emerge from (and we're not out of the woods yet until demographic trends reach a sufficient tipping point and the current coming-of-age generation of young adults actually begin to regularly turn out to vote!  And while we're at it, the "browning" part of America begins to regularly turn out in off-year elections!

    •  I haven't seen that much venom since watching (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      annieli, high uintas, Onomastic

      a nature show on "Milking" cobras

      I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

      by JML9999 on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:27:30 PM PDT

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    •  4 different streams of reform back then. (8+ / 0-)

      100 years ago, four streams of reformism found themselves in alignment for long enough to do some real good.

      First came the Populists, rural reformers mostly.

      Then we learn about the Progressives, middle class reform politicians who would in other generations be conservatives; but found the Gilded Age so corrupt that they too demanded reform.

      The third were the Urban Liberals, people like Boston Mayor John "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald (JFK's grandfather).

      Fourth were the Socialists like Eugene Debs, who in 1920 received a million votes when he was confined to a prison cell.

      Some historians want us to think the Progressives did all the work, because of their own class biases and political favoritisms, but we shouldn't forget the other groups.

      Freedom's just another word for not enough to eat. --Paul Krugman's characterization of conservative attitudes.

      by Judge Moonbox on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:30:16 PM PDT

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  •  Full moon on St. Patrick's Day (10+ / 0-)

    The Rising of the Moon:

    Be sure you put your feet in the right place; then stand firm. ~ Abraham Lincoln

    by noweasels on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:13:12 PM PDT

  •  I agree with Lears who is, by the way (6+ / 0-)

    a very highly regarded historian himself (way more than Kearns Goodwin).  But he still diminishes (a) events and (b) protest.  It isn't just movements but what moves them and what they do to actually change the status quo.  

    It wasn't an intellectual exercise.

    "So listen, oh, Don't wait." Vampire Weekend.

    by Publius2008 on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:20:32 PM PDT

  •  Oh oh... 'Cosmos' is about evolution tonight... (16+ / 0-)

    That loud popping sound you hear all across the country is not champagne corks... it's RWer heads exploding...

    How can FOX spread the outrage, when THEY'RE the ones airing the show??

    "When does the greed stop, we ask the other side? That's the question and that's the issue." - Senator Ted Kennedy

    by Fordmandalay on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:22:14 PM PDT

  •  "Excited tone", because they and theirs... (7+ / 0-)

    ...wouldn't be doing the fighting and dying?

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:27:33 PM PDT

    •  * (8+ / 0-)

      So many wasted lives; so many shattered dreams.

      Be sure you put your feet in the right place; then stand firm. ~ Abraham Lincoln

      by noweasels on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:31:34 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  That day is (4+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        salmo, viral, Naniboujou, Ohkwai

        the world record for a protest of ANYTHING.

        16 million people participated.

        In 2009, talking at a conservative, she said,
        "I didn't know anyone that was against that war!"

        I showed her the data, the story...
        she thinks the protests were all a fabrication.

        "No; the build-up to the war was all a fabrication."

        Finally, not long after 2012 election and Obama was re-elected, she admits,
        "I don't know anyone that voted for him the first time, or this time. But I'm starting to wonder if I live in some kind of a bubble."

        My simple reply was,
        "You choose to live as you want it to be. How accurate... or true to reality, is your own damn business. We all lie to ourselves... just don't expect anyone else to believe your lies."

        She thinks I am very cruel and mean.
        I think she believes her own damn lies.

        Suddenly, it dawns on me, Earnest T. Bass is the intellectual and philosophical inspiration of the TeaParty.

        by Nebraska68847Dem on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 02:23:00 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  New (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    annieli, high uintas, Eric Nelson, viral

    "If Wall Street paid a tax on every “game” they run, we would get enough revenue to run the government on." ~ Will Rogers

    by Lefty Coaster on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 08:28:51 PM PDT

  •  1,003,575 registered users on dKos now. (9+ / 0-)

    Here are the 10 newest registered users on dKos.  Hope to see their comments and diaries here soon!  (If they're not spammers.)

    Joseph3831hke9
    Michael8360wql8
    Matthew0505qsu2
    MarilynGledhill (user #1,003,569: spammer)
    Alexander7147kyo9
    William7148lzo9
    Jayden4826jzp9
    JB2014 (user #1,003,573: already banned)
    Joseph4061axt2
    blaze0482ypf6


    And since our society is obsessed with numbers that end in a lot of zeros as milestones, here's a special shoutout to users:
    #1,003,100: perfectresume0 (spammer)
    #1,003,200: umm naw
    #1,003,300: Michael1727vup1
    #1,003,400: William3952hik0
    #1,003,500: Chalchiuitl

    We've added 504 more users in the last two days.  There's definitely been a recent increase in spammers in the last couple days.


    And for your Diary Rescue music pleasure, here's Mika's "Elle Me Dit".

  •  NC State in the NCAA tournament! (4+ / 0-)

    Since this is an open thread, I just want to share my joy of having my alma mater in the NCAA tournament.  Go Wolfpack!

    Happy, happy , joy, joy!  

  •  What? (10+ / 0-)

    "Doris Kearns Goodwin in her thoroughly mediocre book"
    Just finished the book – whatever criticisms one would want to make, one would not be to label it as mediocre, that is unless ones wants to make it personal. Not having the time, or the skill, to attempt a critical review, I would just like to say "read it". It is a window on a time. The fact that it concentrates on showing us that world and time from the perspective of her two protagonists is illuminating and instructive. It does not pretend to be more – putting it down i feel like I understand these two men and their lives much better than if I had read one more historical critique of their lives. This is history with a minimum of the pundits attempt to impress with the historian's view of the world. Great book.

    •  I haven't read the book (5+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      OLinda, Zinman, salmo, Onomastic, Jay C

      but I do appreciate the getting the views of a regular reader to balance out the critics.

      Thank you.

      And daddy won't you take me back to Muhlenberg County Down by the Green River where Paradise lay. Well, I'm sorry my son, but you're too late in asking Mister Peabody's coal train has hauled it away. John Prine

      by high uintas on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 09:14:03 PM PDT

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    •  Having BOUGHT the book (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      salmo, Jay C

      And in the process of reading it, I'd have to say I agree.

      I haven't really progressed beyond the biographicals yet, and am waiting for the politics.

      Off the cuff, it sounds to me like the author of the diary is peeved because Teedie happened to be a Republican of some sort.

      And we can't have THAT, now can we kiddies?

      To be sure, progressivism was quite common a century (+/- a decade) ago, so common that it came in a variety of flavors.

      The electorate at the time chose the Republican flavor, and gave them the opportunity to do something about it.

      History is only temporarily elastic. It will always snap back to it's true form, and when it does the backlash can be rather painful.

      What separates us, divides us, and diminishes the human spirit.

      by equern on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 01:34:42 AM PDT

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    •  In The Middle Of Reading It (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Jay C

      It seems to be much more nuanced than the critic claims it to be as he somehow puts it in the context of people promoting a third way political agenda of today.

    •  I've read the book.... (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Leo Flinnwood

      ...and, right after it, just to get another window on the era,  A. Scott Berg's bio of Woodrow Wilson (another quondam "Progressive" sidetracked by history, but that's another story).

      "The Bully Pulpit" may not be the finest work out there, but I think Lears' assessment of "thoroughly mediocre" is somewhat unfair. Goodwin is a historian, not a political blogger: and I think his application of her analyses of Progressive Era politics to modern day ideas ("Third Way"? SRSLY?) is a bit off-the-mark. He seems to fault Goodwin for not presenting the history of the time according to his own lights - which is OK; his right as a critic - but doesn't, IMO bear much on the quality of her work per se.

  •  Tweet of the Day (6+ / 0-)

    The one thing that "never changes" is that the gas bag pundits, or any of their children, will not be in the "war" they champion.

  •  my city. (6+ / 0-)
    Golden has been named a Solar Friendly Community for making it easier and more affordable for its residents to install rooftop solar systems.

    The city is the 13th in Colorado to receive the designation since the program, part of the U.S. Department of Energy's SunShot initiative, began in 2012.
    ...

    "Through the Solar Friendly Communities program, Golden has achieved a win-win-win for residents, businesses, and the city by streamlining the permitting process and reducing the overall costs of solar," Golden Mayor Marjorie Sloan said in the release. "With Golden's goal to provide 20 percent of the city's energy from renewable energy, this effort plays an important role in encouraging future solar investment."

  •  We need real muckrackers & populist progressives.. (9+ / 0-)

    ..taking on a greater role again. Ida M. Tarbell: Investigative Journalist.. Not managerial progressives or third way/no-label pragmatists

    These Jackson Lears snippets are for my learning:

    Without question, investigative reporting flourished in the Progressive Era as it has rarely done before or since. Journalism was more about the pursuit of truth than the appearance of balance.
    manipulating publicity:
    anti-imperialists were, in Roosevelt’s words, “little better than traitors.” Questioning the patriotism of one’s opponents in foreign-policy debate became an established practice that has survived to our own time.
    [...]
     Ever since Roosevelt, advocates of military intervention abroad have embraced his demented dualism, telling Americans they could either “stand tall” or “cut and run.”
    Some good and some very bad; Big stick imperialism mixed in with a populist message:
    “speak softly and carry a big stick ... a square deal for every man, great or small, rich or poor.”
    And more mixing it up:
    ..critiques of union corruption counterbalanced hostility to capital by reminding middle-class readers of the nether millstone
    Roosevelt sounds like he had the Bill Clinton publicity managing gene or something

    In the end it sounds as though investigative journalism seeking truth not "balance" is sorely missing these days, and without that kind of independent oversight many other very destructive forces are left unchecked:

    Despite frequent nods to Roosevelt, Obama never made the New Nationalist case for a federal government purged of business interests and dedicated to the public good. But how could he? After a forty-year diet of free-market globaloney, no one in the press corps—except maybe for a few muckrakers—would have had the faintest idea what he was talking about.
    And this blockquote is just for the fun of saying it:
    Plowing through her undistinguished prose, one is tempted to ask: why was this lumbering production unleashed upon the world?
    Thx MB for the history - cool Night owl tonight

    P.S.: The part really hit home:

    Part of the appeal of McClure’s to middle- and upper-class readers was that it treated labor unions (whose power was minuscule to nonexistent at the time) as if they were as great a threat to the public interest as monopolistic corporations. Then as now, sensible centrists liked to believe that they were about to be crushed between upper and nether millstones.
    I actually remember stories told in my home on this narrative. My mom finally agreeing with my republican father - union thugs; mafia connected - all of it
  •  Well, it's always good to read another review of a (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JeffW

    book, I suppose...

    "In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile..." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    by Jack K on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 09:15:47 PM PDT

  •  Thomas Frank on Doris Kearns Goodwin's book (4+ / 0-)

    "Team of Rivals"

    It was, in other words, an unremarkable arrangement, documented here in an unremarkable book, all of it together about as startling as a Hallmark card. How did such a commonplace slice of history come to define our era?
    Harper's, Feb. 2013.

    Wonder what he has to say about her new unremarkable-ness. i wrote her off after she was caught plagiarizing.

    To thine ownself be true

    by Agathena on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 09:42:36 PM PDT

    •  Just searched "Thomas Frank" (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Eric Nelson, Onomastic, salmo, Naniboujou

      He has joined Salon.com. That's going to be fun. Salon was the first blog I joined way back when.

      Tom is quite simply one of the leading political writers anywhere, with a fierce intelligence, a long view of history, a piercing wit, and a committed progressive worldview which is equally as tough on the Wall Street crowd leading the Democratic Party as he is on the conservatives and cultural warriors on the right. It’s a principled independence of mind that’s at the essence of Salon.

      To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 09:57:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Plagiarism is an issue (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Onomastic

      I remember the very first big history paper I wrote in my very first history class in college, I stumbled upon a minor case of plagiarism. One guy literally took two sentences, word for word, from an earlier historian's book. It was just a lucky break that I happened to read them both back to back due to some research I was doing. I remember when I told my professor, he pretty much told me that two sentences was no big deal and just an honest mistake so I should just leave it alone.

      Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

      by moviemeister76 on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 10:26:15 PM PDT

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  •  89 Degrees in Long Beach CA today. (9+ / 0-)

    I went on an extremely early hike this morning in hills in southern orange county looking for tadpoles for our school project. Found some in a large, warm vernal pool. Took them back and put them in our own (created) vernal pool. Got back before the heat rose. Great morning. I think we got two different species.

    Some people are nerdy about whatever they're particularly nerdy about. Myself, I find these amateur naturalist nutcases who get SO excited about wildflowers, insects, tadpoles, lizards, birds, the rest of the critters and we drive to places and get REALLY wound up about nature and miss turnoffs because we're excitedly yakking about "natural selection"
    or specialized little ecosystems. My friend who I went with this morning teaches biology at a local high school.

    I did this stuff when I was twelve years old and I'm decades older than that but the feeling of joy is exactly the same. Ah, to have two or three lifetimes to do this stuff!

    "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

    by Wildthumb on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 09:42:44 PM PDT

  •  Whither Windows... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Eric Nelson

    ...apropos of end-of-support for XP, and my distaste for Win 8.1 (and suspicions that it won't run on the machines I intend to upgrade), my lovely wife has tasked me with installing Windows 7 on at least the three machines that are hers.

    All of the intended machines will accommodate at least 2GB of memory, some already have at least that, some will be beefed up to 4GB, and all will work with Win 7 32-bit. My question is which version should I consider? Home, Professional, or Ultimate? All the machines are currently running under XP Pro.

    Any suggestions?

    Oh, and Linux wonks, I do NOT think Calamity Jean is ready to go full nerd. Neither am I, right now, but I have one bigger machine I might try it on later, and several old beasts that are running XP Pro, but will not run 7. They will probably be converted to Puppy Linux at a later date.

    Thanks in advance.

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 10:01:52 PM PDT

    •  Win 7 32-bit (?) I would have thought you'd be.. (0+ / 0-)

      ..Win 7 64-bit

      Just curious, if you left click on the start menu to open the programs window then right click on computer and then left click on properties will it say Windows home premium and down below that under system type: does it say 32-bit operating system or does it say 64-bit operating system

      I have Window 7 Home premium. My installed memory (RAM) is 3.0 GB so I figured yours must be 64-bit too.

      •  All the machines in our household... (2+ / 0-)
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        Eric Nelson, Calamity Jean

        ...that could be upgraded to Win 7 are 32-bit AFAIK. And all I have been able to learn is that 4GB is the maximum memory that Win 7 32-bit will address. All but two of the potential upgradable machines can be kicked up to 4GB, and one has 4GB already installed. I have not done any installs of Win 7, yet, but have one machine that needs a new hard drive that I was going to try out as my first case.

        My big thing is to determine which version would be desirable, but I haven't found anything that really differentiates Home, Professional, and Ultimate except price.

        Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

        by JeffW on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 10:41:23 PM PDT

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    charliehall2

    Kos Klowns Klammor to quickly slap the correct "D" or "R" label onto progressive reform and denigrate the progress made by Roosevelt by trashing his efforts as nobelese oblige, and progressive charity granted by elites.

    In the next breath they talk about nominating Hillary Clinton.

    #whatkolorareyourklownshoes?

  •  On Hulu there are two ads for PS4... (3+ / 0-)
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    ... which show a remarkable amount of violence and murder, and the background music is "sharing is caring"... like a cutesy young child's nursery rhyme.

    Whoever thought up this song for the background for murder and mayhem is seriously deranged.

    This is one of the ads:

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 11:29:07 PM PDT

  •  Teddy was a player in the US going into the (2+ / 0-)
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    salmo, Jay C

    overseas empire business. iirc, had a sentimentality for the good old days when men became men killing the native savages. Not much chance of that for his generation, the task largely accomplished.

    And how very sad that Hilla, er, Woodrow Wilson was taken by DC as a Progressive. So many noxious things began in his term in office. On some days I think our two-party system is a kind of distillation process to deliver the dreck of humanity to office.


    Real fixes, outside the coffin fixes, ain't ever pragmatic says Political Conventional Wisdoom.

    by Jim P on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 01:25:59 AM PDT

    •  Wilson was a southern racist (1+ / 0-)
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      who as a child had been an eyewitness to Sherman's March to the Sea. That permanently influenced his worldview.

      He did, however, believe in interventionist government, for better or for worse. Had Taft or TR been elected I can't imagine them being willing to take the steps that Wilson's Treasury Secretary McAdoo took to save the US economy at the outbreak of WW1 in Europe.

  •  Commissions over regulations (1+ / 0-)
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    I think that's a result of too many lawmakers being lawyers versus techinical people. In engineering we focus on making things intrinsically safe.  Intrinsically  safe designing  would be something like removing the oxygen from electrical conduit so if their is a spark there is nothing to burn. This is something that isn't emphasized as much in law school. The net effect is that lawyers are designing laws based on their way of thinking (build a place to debate and fight over rules).

    Yes I know this is somewhat generalizing, but it's a thought I have had for some time.

    -1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power" (with snark of course)! Follow on Twitter @dopper0189

    by dopper0189 on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 04:19:51 AM PDT

  •  The populist movement was totally racist (2+ / 0-)
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    Naniboujou, Azazello

    in the South. As an example, populist reformers got control of the government of Virginia in 1901, electing Andrew Jackson Montague as governor. They called a Constitutional Convention that rewrote the state constitution to disenfranchise almost all African America voters with the poll tax. The conservative machine brilliantly used this "reform" to take back power in 1905 and stayed in power until the end of the 1960s. Two non-machine governors were elected during this time, in 1917 and 1937, but they were ineffective.

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