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Andrew Cuomo delivers the State of the State address, January 6, 2012
Jackass.
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is hell-bent on being the Progressive Villain Number One. How else to explain his latest effort to screw Democrats?

It all began innocently enough. Cuomo has long called for public financing of elections to clean up Albany. Not only is that generally laudable, but makes particular sense in New York's corruption-ridden politics. He mentioned it in all his State of the State speeches, and included it in his budget.

Problem is, he's including it for one office only, the office of comptroller.

He has raised $33 million for his re-election. He clearly has no desire to either return the money, or give any challenger the chance to challenge him on the public's dime.

So there's hypocrisy involved, which for a politician, isn't actually the worst sin. In this case, the worst sin is this:

The comptroller is a Democrat and doesn't currently have a Republican challenger. If Cuomo is successful, not only would he get to pay lip service to the notion of public financing of elections, without actually putting his own skin on the line, but he would be essentially encouraging a free Republican challenge to the incumbent Democratic comptroller.

And to just top off the ridiculousness of Cuomo's effort, public financing of that race would only happen this year, so it's not even an effort to build a lasting public-financing scheme. Makes you wonder what the comptroller did to piss of Cuomo, as this appears to be a surgical strike intended to punish the guy.

A behind-the-scenes push to enact a public campaign finance pilot program that would impact the attorney general and/or controller's races this year has left some insiders believing that Gov. Cuomo is looking to hurt two fellow statewide Democrats with whom he has had tense relations since taking office.
That was written before Cuomo's budget targeted only the comptroller's office. In the end, it looks like Attorney General Eric Schneiderman was too powerful to target, so they stuck with the comptroller's office. Then, Cuomo's office pretends to be outraged that people aren't rallying around this pretend reform effort:
"It makes absolutely no sense that the comptroller and attorney general would oppose public campaign financing in their elections," the Cuomo aide said.
Again, Cuomo is explicitly targeting a Democratic rival, trying to entice a publicly funded Republican opponent while exempting his own office. AND, he's doing this as a one-year scheme, as opposed to lasting reform. And then he cries foul when called on it.

I'm fond of comparing Cuomo to Joe Lieberman, and the comparison fits better by the day.

(Also, this.)

Originally posted to kos on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 11:47 AM PDT.

Also republished by New York City and Daily Kos.

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  •  At this point, wouldn't comparing him to Lieberman (39+ / 0-)

    understate Cuomo's odious non-Democratic record?

    "In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.” -Confucius

    by pierre9045 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 11:50:56 AM PDT

    •  As much as I dislike my governor, he's still not (0+ / 0-)

      Sen Lieberman.  Let's hope gov. Cuomo catches "Joementum" -  "Three way tie for third place!"

      S#@% it, goppers! Obamacare rules! (until we get Medicare for all)

      by filby on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 08:36:12 PM PDT

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  •  leg-tingling, Centrist hardball (15+ / 0-)
    Again, Cuomo is explicitly targeting a Democratic rival, trying to entice a publicly funded Republican opponent while exempting his own office. AND, he's doing this as a one-year scheme, as opposed to lasting reform. And then he cries foul when called on it.

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 11:51:27 AM PDT

    •  I've always said that Cuomo is my last favorite (3+ / 0-)
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      of the potential Democratic candidates being mentioned for 2016 unless the mentions of Rahm Emanuel are serious. If he keeps on like this, I could grow to dislike him even MORE than I dislike Rahmie, who shut down the elementary school my grandmother taught at for 45 years but of course it's just Hispanic kids now and they don't count, do they, Rahmie?

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 04:50:09 PM PDT

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  •  A Prince. (12+ / 0-)

    An argument against Monarchy.

    Jed Bush and George Bush: Take notice.

    •  Cuomo is not a Democrat (29+ / 0-)

      He calls himself a Democrat, but his economic policy is right out of the Scott Walker/Paul Ryan playbook. Life long Democrats understand this. As a New Yorker, I will be voting straight D, except, of course, for Cuomo.

      •  He is no different from the NY Senate Republicans (10+ / 0-)

        who, it should be noted, are mostly NOT from the tea-bag wing of the Republican Party. Hell, half of them got elected with labor support.

        Any labor activists care to defend this?

        •  To address this: (4+ / 0-)
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          Any labor activists care to defend this?
          Labor only tends to support Republicans in districts where the Republican is the only viable candidate - IE:  districts that lean heavily Republican.

          It is in large part that support from labor that keeps these guys from being "from the tea-bag wing" of the Republican party.

          Labors relative strength in New York is one of the things that keep the Republicans in the state (relatively) sane compared to the wingnuttery of Republicans in other states.  When you get a candidate that doesn't feel they need labors help in NY, you end up with a Carl Paladino - who definitely was in the "tea-bag wing."

          However, there simply are areas of that state that will always vote Republican, no matter what, and labor has come to terms with that.  Rural areas of upstate and much of Long Island will simply never vote blue in state elections.  This, somehow, is what always keeps Republicans within at least striking distance of control of the state Senate - largely due to gerrymandering.

          Basically, New York politics makes strange bedfellows.

          "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

          by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 04:10:32 PM PDT

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          •  Wow. Thanks. (1+ / 0-)
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            Coming from one of those Republican upstate areas where I spend every single godamned  day working to make it a little more purple, you are part of the problem. My county voted for Hillary for Senator, Schumer, Gillibrand, Cuomo, and Kathy Hochul. But we can't get anywhere at the local level because we're told by labor and the state party (by their actions, not directly) that we can never win. So we can't raise enough money to get on the radar.

            Of course, I am bitterly disappointed by the campaign finance fiasco. It's the closest thing to a magic bullet for us that could ever happen. But it seems we are getting shafted by supposed allies all over the place.

            •  Two things (0+ / 0-)

              1. I don't generally agree with the strategy.  I was explaining it to the O/P.  So fuck you and the high horse you rode in on that "I'm the problem."  I'm from the Adks.  I know what it's like in rural upstate.  It's like Appalachia - you ain't changing that, so find someone else to blame for living in wingnut territory.  There's a reason I sought out civilization and only go home to visit on rare occasions.

              2.  Like it or not, agree with it or not, it is a pragmatic approach that has largely kept you represented by more sane Republicans and not total wingnut Teabaggers.  Unless you're represented by a wingnut assclown like Greg Ball.

              "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

              by Darth Stateworker on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:54:06 AM PDT

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              •  ADKS - love them (0+ / 0-)

                And so does Andrew. But unless you're from the North Country or Erie County, both places Andrew has decided will get his largesse, you're in trouble. And one of the biggest problems is the one-party political culture. Unless we get a viable two-party system in New York (I would argue in all parts of the state), we're going to keep getting screwed. In my area, it's because Republicans never have to worry about us, because our region always votes for them. Democrats never worry about us, because our region never votes for them. Thus, the decline that has been going on for generations, and the unions aren't helping.

            •  You are so right. "Labor" has lost us races too. (0+ / 0-)

              Just like the false Democrats in the Senate who grabbed a little power by voting for Skelos, defying the voters who elected a majority DEMOCRATIC NY Senate. AND, no doubt about it, with Andrew's approval. He likes this arrangement.

              Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

              by Catskill Julie on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 07:35:48 PM PDT

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          •  You are utterly, completely wrong (1+ / 0-)
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            Look at the list of endorsees:

            http://nysaflcio.org/...

            and compare to the map here:

            http://www.dailykos.com/...

            Districts 1, 6, 8, 9 51, 52, and 54 voted  for Obama in 2012. AFL-CIO endorsed Republicans nevertheless. Obama got 48.5% in District 62 and AFL-CIO endorsed a Republican. Only in District 24 (most of Staten Island) did Obama lose badly in a district where the AFL-CIO endorsed a Republican.

            That is 8 districts that could be D but the AFL-CIO helped the wrong side. That would give the real D's a 33 vote majority and the IDC is history.

            •  And these are precisely the kind of districts (0+ / 0-)

              we need to turn. The Rethugs successfully targeted moderate and conservative Dems from purple districts in 2010; we need to take a page out of their playbook and beat them at their own game.

      •  I'd still take Andrew Cuomo over a (5+ / 0-)

        nameless Republican.
        NY doesn't need another Republican governor either.

        Someone needs to primary Cuomo next run- someone with the chops to beat him.

        "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

        by Gentle Giant on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:50:54 PM PDT

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          •  He's still not a Republican (8+ / 0-)

            If he were a Republican, we'd have fracking in our watersheds. (granted, we may yet get it, but he's managed to delay it for a good while now).

            We wouldn't have gay marriage.

            We wouldn't have a state-run health exchange with stronger rules than the ACA.

            Those are some differences I can think of off the top of my head.

            Doesn't mean I agree with the rest of what he's done.

            •  We have fracking in California with a Dem. Gov. (2+ / 0-)
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              Jerry Brown is certainly better than Cuomo, but not a whole lot.

              Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

              by hawkseye on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 03:58:03 PM PDT

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            •  Absolutely agree with Algernons (1+ / 0-)
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              In 2010, Cuomo defeated Carl Paladino, a kajillionaire TP wackadoodle who trounced all comers in the Republican primary (there aren't a heck of a lot of really good Repubs available to run for statewide office in NY, anyway). Paladino was the real-deal Tea Party man who was not supported by the mainstream Republicans. If he had won, NY would have been like the federal government, only flipped: Republicans holding the executive and the Senate, Dems holding the Assembly. But, given Cuomo's 30-point margin of victory, Paladino never had a chance.

            •  Being a Democrat (4+ / 0-)

              is more than being about socially liberal causes only just to pander for the liberal vote.

              And that's all Cuomo ever does.

              He's a Machiavellian triangulator, and that's it.  He doesn't believe in liberal ideals.  This is the guy that coined the phrase "Vote for Cuomo, not the homo!" when his father was running against Ed Koch FFS.  Do you really think he's a huge champion of the LGBT community?  Or did he just triangulate that the train was coming so he'd better get on board?

              The reason why we don't have fracking has nothing to do with Cuomo - Team Cuomo was planning on freight training it right on through.  He practically gutted the DEC in preparation to get fracking set up.

              He only stopped due to the pushback from the very vocal liberal anti-frackers, because he triangulated they would cause him negative national press.

              "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

              by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:06:29 PM PDT

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            •  HE didn't delay anything. He wanted fracking. His (0+ / 0-)

              people prevented Democrats from bringing a resolution against fracking to the state convention floor for debate, 3 times that I saw personally. Only determined public opposition and unified environmental activism has prevented him from getting fracking through.

              The people of NY have prevented fracking, so far. We need all New Yorkers to keep the heat on Cuomo.

              Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

              by Catskill Julie on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 07:43:44 PM PDT

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          •  It's the daily attack on Cuomo (4+ / 0-)

            by Kos or one of his surrogates.

            As Algernons Labyrinth & Gentle Giant point out, he's much better than the clowns the Republicans have run in the last 2 state-wide elections, including Senator.  

            To get gay marriage, good ACA coverage, modest gun control, he has had to bargain with the state GOP senators.  

            The stalling on the fracking is HUGE!  And an issue which will ruin 75% of the state waters due to geology, and the way the water circulates, between the Finger Lakes, the Erie Canal, rivers.  Not to mention most upstate cities & towns are dependent upon fresh water for municipalities and private wells (us).  Our house will become totally unsaleable if our well is contaminated.  

            And then there is the NYC water shed in the Catskills.

            The Republicans are just itching to drill, and turn us into WVa, & PA.  Markos, would you like to come up with a guarantee of buying our house & acreage when we have to get out because the water from 150' down is undrinkable?

            Three years ago a dear friend of ours was killed (mid-40's) in a construction accident which was the result of negligence on the part of a tunnel company from Texas.  The state courts cited the negligence and fault of the company which meant that Tom's wife & kids got decent benefits between a law suite and NYS Workman's Comp.  Another friend in government pointed out that states which were run by GOP govs have worked actively to weaken workplace injury laws and benefits.  

            A Republican gov in NYS would be a disaster, because all these accommodations toward fairness for victims in many areas, would be stripped away.  We are constantly bombarded with Tea Party hate in this part of the state.  The only person more hated than Cuomo, is President Obama.  

            He's not perfect, but go pick on Wisconsin, Florida, PA, Arizona, Tennessee, Ohio, Georgia, NC, SC, Kansas instead.  There's a lot worse than Cuomo on the horizon in NY and other places.

            •  Which office do you work in (0+ / 0-)

              on the 2nd Floor?

              Joe Percoco, is that you?

              "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

              by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:00:29 PM PDT

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              •  Callingn someone a paid shill was at one point (1+ / 0-)
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                a bannable offense.  Has this changed?

                •  Did I call him a "paid shill." (0+ / 0-)

                  Because somehow, in re-reading that post, the words "paid shill" don't even seem to appear...

                  "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

                  by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 08:21:41 PM PDT

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                  •  You were asking if I was (0+ / 0-)

                    someone who has been a powerful enforcer, assistant, body man for A. Cuomo since his days in DC, NY State Attorney Gen'l, and now Governor.  

                    That was the point you obviously meant to make, without using the words "paid shill".  And others recognized it.

                    No, DS, SHE did not have a sex change operation on her way to anonymous posting on DK by a paid employee of the state of NY.  I'm one of the ones who helps pay the salaries of the state employees.  Since it's April now, that has been on my mind.  

              •  HA HA HA (1+ / 0-)
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                You've got part of it right, I'm on the 2nd floor presently.

                And thank you, Justanothernyer.  

                I'm such a plugged in insider that Joe Percoco, is a mystery to me. because the little people beneath my pay grade are faceless drones. And without your comment I never would have known who Joe is or where his office is.  

                When I'm in Albany, you are more likely to find me at The Egg or the State History Museum.

                Just a peon, out in the sticks, who sticks up for a honest POV & a lifetime Democrat for more than 60 years.  Which means I have some perspective on things since about 1954.  I have the battle scars from civil rights (March on Washington), anti Vietnam days to prove it. Presently on a Dem County committee in a very red place.

                •  Google him. (1+ / 0-)
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                  You're in for a treat.

                  Seriously though, your snarky comment required a snarky response.  Cuomo deserves every bit of criticism he gets IMO, because to many outside of New York, they think he represents the future of the party after Hillary.

                  And if we want to prevent that from happening...

                  "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

                  by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 09:40:12 PM PDT

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                  •  On that point, Darth, I agree. (1+ / 0-)
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                    The rest of the country should NOT look to Andrew Cuomo as the future of the Democratic Party. But, imo, it won't come to that as NY will be among the first states to lead its Democratic Party back further left, leaving Andrew beyond the bend.
                    Especially upstate, where we are historically known as the Scorched Earth District for the speed at which we've implemented progressive change. Granted, we've been in a progressive drought, but the times, they are a-changin'.

                    "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

                    by Gentle Giant on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 05:52:57 AM PDT

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                    •  Scorched Earth District (1+ / 0-)
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                      was the name given to upstate NY for all the crazy religious revivals held there.  Wrappings, Joseph Smith (location of the Mormon golden tablets) , etc.

                      Pre-science literates could be understood in light of winters which have been like the one we are still in.  With no TV, computers, few books except the Bible; listening to fiery preachers was THE source of entertainment.

                      Don't forget the area also produced Susan B Anthony and the ladies of Seneca Falls, sheltered Harriet Tubman, the Quakers & the Underground Rail Road, Douglas, etc.

                      I always hope the times, they are a-changin' but it seems like people are more polarized than ever, with the rise of the Tea Party upstate.  

                      •  Not ONLY the religious revivals, (1+ / 0-)
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                        but also the other things you mention.
                        I have lived here all my life save my time in the Navy. I was born in the city of Canandaigua where Susan B. Anthony voted illegally. I have visited her and Frederick Douglass' grave sites in Rochester's Mount Hope Cemetery. Frederick Douglass' white wife was from the town of Richmond, village of Honeoye where I vote, my local taxes go and my sons attended preK - 12.
                        At one point in history, Richmond had more sheep than any other community in the United States. Hard to find any now. The farm I grew up on had been a large Iroquois settlement until General Sullivan rode through and butchered the natives in the name of keeping the world safe for white progress. That kind of scorched earth, I'm afraid, is also part of our history. As children, we'd walk through the woods beyond the pasture to the clearing full of impressions where the native grave yard had been before being cleared out by the Rochester Museum and Science Center in the 1950s. It wasn't too rare to find an arrow head. On one of my best friend's farms, there was an area where a long house had existed next to a ravine. In that ravine, we found the stone tools that had broken during their manufacture or hard use: arrow and spear heads, hide scrapers, bone pipe stems...

                        Rochester had the first Negro American newspaper in the country: The North Star, created by Frederick Douglass.
                        Preachers weren't the only ones speechifyin'. In the church I grew up in, in West Bloomfield, where my brother is now the pastor, there was found a journal from the second quarter of the 19th century. When the mule-drawn book mobile rumbled in from Rochester, it always emptied out in West Bloomfield. Book discussion groups were one of the main sources of entertainment, and at the crossroads where the old town hall still stands, citizens could stand atop a box and opine to their heart's content and did just that.
                        So even in the pre-Civil War era, that small Ontario County farming community lusted for information and enlightenment and education was a high priority. West Bloomfield had a reputation for intellectual farmers and merchants. And those I've known in the 20th and 21st centuries are no slouches, either.

                        In the Scorched Earth District, "crazy religious revivals" were more likely to be questioned and shunned as they passed through than to be taken up with passion.

                        "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

                        by Gentle Giant on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 01:18:53 PM PDT

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                  •  My snarky comment? (0+ / 0-)

                    It was YOU, DS who started the snark with your response to my post,

                    It's the daily attack on Cuomo
                    My post was deadly serious about our concern about fracking and some of the goons the Republicans have run locally and statewide.  Instead of Markos worrying about who might step into Hillary's shoes nationally, he might exhibit a little awareness and support for those of us who face a more immediate danger.  Or he has too much time on his hands in CA and so must start some pretend/maybe/imaginative trouble for the future in a state across the country, he has never been a resident of.  

                    He's the only one I see in my limited awareness, that has to occupy himself with worries & fantasies concerning Cuomo on the national level.  I and some others here, just need to let him know all the Peanut Gallery, isn't going along with his POV.  

                    I think Biden is more likely to be the 2nd choice after Hillary.

                    •  You don't think (0+ / 0-)

                      Saying "its the daily attack on Cuomo by Markos or one of his surrogates" was snarky?

                      You're deluding yourself.

                      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

                      by Darth Stateworker on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 04:00:18 PM PDT

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            •  He did not "stall" on fracking. Determined public (0+ / 0-)

              opposition has. This last gem, the public financing-only- for-an-opponent-to-DiNapoli really takes the cake. Or perhaps that's the icing on the S&$t cake he gave us in the Senate after we ELECTED a Democratic majority!

              He thinks New Yorkers are stupid apparently. I have lost what little respect I ever had for him.

              Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

              by Catskill Julie on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 07:50:00 PM PDT

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      •  Vote Working Families Party (6+ / 0-)
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        Under NY's fusion system, independent parties can cross endorse major party candidates, or run their own candidates.  WFP generally supports progressive Democrats, and sometimes uses its organization to intervene in Democratic primaries.  Beneficiaries of this strategy include Albany District Attorney David Soares, who stood up against the harsh Rockefeller drug laws, Bill DiBlasio and Letitia James in NYC.
        WFP is likely to run an independent progressive candidate for governor this year.

        There's no such thing as a free market!

        by Albanius on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 02:42:51 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  WFP statement on NYS bidget (3+ / 0-)

          ' This afternoon, Working Families Party State Director Bill Lipton released this statement in response to the 2014-2015 budget:

          ' "Today's budget enriches the 1% and Wall Street corporations. It misses a chance to put forth a progressive vision, and serves only to increase political and economic inequality. Cutting taxes for Wall Street banks by two hundred fifty million dollars, a reduction in the corporate tax rate, and changes in the estate tax will cost New Yorkers nearly a billion dollars every year.

          'We applaud Speaker Silver and leaders in Albany, however, for fighting for more education funding, expanding pre-K statewide and working with Mayor de Blasio to provide funding for universal pre-K in New York City. Unfortunately, the budget also gives unfair advantages to charter schools at the expense of our public school system.

          'Perhaps the greatest disappointment is Governor Cuomo and the Senate Majority Coalition's failure to pass a robust, statewide system of public financing of elections. This is a lost opportunity to fix a broken political system. Without a serious effort to change the culture of pay-to-play politics, our state government threatens to be mired in corruption and citizens will continue to be cynical about how our democracy actually functions.

          'The citizens of New York deserve better. We will continue to work for a democracy and economy that works for everyone, not just the wealthy and well-connected."'

          'The Working Families Party is New York’s grassroots progressive political party. WFP has won statewide increases in the minimum wage, a landmark green jobs program, and reforms to the state’s Rockefeller drug laws. In New York City, the WFP recently won a three-year long campaign for paid sick days; the Council has passed a bill that will guarantee paid sick days to an estimated one million New Yorkers.'

          There's no such thing as a free market!

          by Albanius on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 03:49:01 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  So glad to hear it! (1+ / 0-)
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          Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

          by hawkseye on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 03:59:12 PM PDT

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    •  oh yeah let's not forget (39+ / 0-)

      that little present from Cuomo.  

      Not to mention his gift to Charter Schools in the budget.

      Some Democrat.

      Why yes there is a war on women and minorities.

      by karma5230 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 12:13:17 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Some of the biggest supporters of charters (3+ / 0-)
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        are Dems. Increasingly, Cuomo is not out of the mainstream on this.

        New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

        by AlexDrew on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 12:40:21 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Would those be rich, investor-type Dems? (23+ / 0-)

          Maybe just ordinary haters of public education for all?

          Or possibly well-meaning but utterly oblivious citizens?

          At this point, charters are essentially nothing more than the blunt wedge of privatization, regardless of their individual merits. The well has been poisoned; the cancer has metastasized.

        •  "mainstream"? That word does not mean what (14+ / 0-)

          you think it means.  Although I'm sure David Brooks is with you on this.

          "But I do apologize, JVolvo, for you are arbiter of all that can and cannot be discussed and I bow down to your supremacy when it comes to what can be written on this website." WinSmith 1/22/2014 - "OK" JVolvo 1/23/2014 (sorry, Clive)

          by JVolvo on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:20:25 PM PDT

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          •  It's funny you said David Brooks instead of (4+ / 0-)
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            Arne Duncan, BHO or Mayor Emanuel or Nutter. You are also leaving out all of the inner city parents who choose to send their kids to charters.

            David Brooks? Let's start with the Dems first.

            New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

            by AlexDrew on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:39:32 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  I agree that the Democrats are equally to blame. (4+ / 0-)
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              A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

              by slatsg on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 02:53:29 PM PDT

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              •  Not equally - Bush really unleashed the lie (1+ / 0-)
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                •  The Democrats were scapegoating educators ... (1+ / 0-)
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                  long before the Bush presidency.

                  I still remember Michigan Governor Jim Blanchard referring to us as greedy in the early 1990s. Much like President Obama, he wanted our support at election time, but didn't have our backs after the votes were counted.

                  The DLC promoted charter schools in a publication back in 1994. Source

                  NCLB vs. RttT? I agree with the assessment that Race to the Top is NCLB on steroids.

                  A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

                  by slatsg on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:35:12 AM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

            •  Yeah, Duncan. And if you think using Emanuel's (5+ / 0-)

              name will get you any props here...wow.

              So, yes.  You just named CorpraDems who are chasing the $$$.  

              Well done.  You've proved my point, Alex.

              "But I do apologize, JVolvo, for you are arbiter of all that can and cannot be discussed and I bow down to your supremacy when it comes to what can be written on this website." WinSmith 1/22/2014 - "OK" JVolvo 1/23/2014 (sorry, Clive)

              by JVolvo on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 03:58:41 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  My point is why bring up David Brooks when you (0+ / 0-)

                have elected/appointed Dems who have control over actual policy? cn you answer that one? Who has more influence, Brooks or Obama?

                And what about the inner city parents who choose to send their kids there?

                New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

                by AlexDrew on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 04:05:39 PM PDT

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                •  I'll go with Moyers and Ravitch. You stick with (5+ / 0-)

                  Cuomo, DeVos, Walton Family Foundation, Oberndorf, Michelle Rhee et al while you lobby for the Big $$$ crowd to dismantle public schools.

                  Ravitch on Moyers

                  "But I do apologize, JVolvo, for you are arbiter of all that can and cannot be discussed and I bow down to your supremacy when it comes to what can be written on this website." WinSmith 1/22/2014 - "OK" JVolvo 1/23/2014 (sorry, Clive)

                  by JVolvo on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 04:52:47 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  So you won't answer the question? (0+ / 0-)

                    Okay. You win.

                    But its more like Prez. BHO, Arne Duncan, elected Mayors of Blue Cities Emanuel and Nutter among many, many other Dems. And oh yeah, inner city parents looking for solutions.

                    New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

                    by AlexDrew on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 04:57:03 PM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

                    •  Seriously? (4+ / 0-)

                      You're siding with fucking Nutter and Rahm?  The same motherfuckers who are trying to decimate their respective school systems and destroy the public school systems in their cities so they can privatize them instead?  

                      I wouldn't be touting shit like that?  They may have D's after their names but they're no Democrats.  They're fucking corporate whores just like this piece of shit Cuomo.

                      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

                      by DisNoir36 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 06:06:42 PM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

                      •  How were they elected? In Nutter's case, (0+ / 0-)

                        re-elected? And what about the Prez? I am siding with them for trying something different. Both school systems were performing poorly before both Mayors took office.

                        Daley was Mayor for over 20 years and you are blaming Rahm? Give these guys space to operate or elect local pols who will raise the property taxes necessary to double or triple school funding. But remember, LA, Chicago, NYC, Philly and Cleveland are all Blue cities. If we don't like it, it can be changed.

                        New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

                        by AlexDrew on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 06:18:23 PM PDT

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                        •  heh. It's way early, of course, but here's to your (0+ / 0-)

                          Mayor 1%:

                          Paying relatively little attention to neighborhoods in need in a city that is now an international service and financial hub, Emanuel has largely been considered to be invincible for reelection due to his alleged $6 million political war chest -- and his unstinting support from the business community.
                          ---
                          Preckwinkle is a former school teacher who believes government serves the interests of the many, not the privileged few.  Emanuel  -- a former political fundraiser, congressman, and White House chief of staff who earned about $17 million for less than two years as a "rainmaker" for an investment firm after he left the Clinton White House -- believes that government is run by an elite that includes the corporate community -- but not community groups -- as full partners.

                          If Preckwinkle takes on Emanuel's oligarchical rule, the outcome will be determined by whether or not Emanuel's millions in campaign funds can beat back a populist uprising in the city that became most visible with the revolt of the Chicago Teachers Union.

                          Hmm, populist former-teacher County Board president vs Big $$$ neoliberal CorpraCrat.  Super early poll puts her ahead 40% - 32%.  heh

                          The struggle for the soul of the party of FDR continues...

                          D'oh!

                          "But I do apologize, JVolvo, for you are arbiter of all that can and cannot be discussed and I bow down to your supremacy when it comes to what can be written on this website." WinSmith 1/22/2014 - "OK" JVolvo 1/23/2014 (sorry, Clive)

                          by JVolvo on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 11:32:01 AM PDT

                          [ Parent ]

                          •  Reality. Based.Community. Yeah right! (0+ / 0-)

                            New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

                            by AlexDrew on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 12:03:24 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  A poll is a poll. You keep cheering privatizing (1+ / 0-)
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                            schools, Mayor 1% and quoting Wall Street's favorite "D" senator (Schumer).

                            Are you on the correct political blog?

                            Michelle Rhee's website is waaay over there ---------->

                            "But I do apologize, JVolvo, for you are arbiter of all that can and cannot be discussed and I bow down to your supremacy when it comes to what can be written on this website." WinSmith 1/22/2014 - "OK" JVolvo 1/23/2014 (sorry, Clive)

                            by JVolvo on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 12:29:06 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  I went to a private school, and the teachers (0+ / 0-)

                            there were allowed to teach. In a public school systems having to cater to so many situations, that has never been done. I actually think charters will go away, my point was that Dems are pushing this as much the GOP. You are the one who shifted the conversation.

                            What poll are talking about?

                            New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

                            by AlexDrew on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 01:46:14 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                      •  I'm going out to dinner. You win. (0+ / 0-)

                        Even in blue cities that we have dominated for decades, it's all the Koch Bros and Corp. Dems fault, dating back to the 1960's. Got it.

                        New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

                        by AlexDrew on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 06:26:25 PM PDT

                        [ Parent ]

                      •  Remember who you're going back and forth with. (2+ / 0-)
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                        Sometimes I think one could easily label AlexDrew a Republican....

                        "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

                        by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:12:50 PM PDT

                        [ Parent ]

                        •  I am probably more of a reality based (0+ / 0-)

                          progressive than you are. You probably to the left of me on things that will never get done. I will grant you that.

                          New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

                          by AlexDrew on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 12:05:28 PM PDT

                          [ Parent ]

                          •  Good thing FDR, Kennedy, MLK and LBJ didn't have (1+ / 0-)
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                            you around for council on what can "get done."

                            Whew.

                            "But I do apologize, JVolvo, for you are arbiter of all that can and cannot be discussed and I bow down to your supremacy when it comes to what can be written on this website." WinSmith 1/22/2014 - "OK" JVolvo 1/23/2014 (sorry, Clive)

                            by JVolvo on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 12:31:04 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  You left out Bill Clinton. The economy boomed (0+ / 0-)

                            under him. My kinda guy. Common sense and practical. Now that Warren isn't running, HRC can bring that common sense back to the White House.

                            New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

                            by AlexDrew on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 01:50:05 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                •  In New York City - "choice" is a misnomer (6+ / 0-)

                  Parents everywhere want to send their children to a neighborhood school (esp. elementary and middle school).
                  That's what they generally choose.

                  But in the name of 'choice' Bloomberg spent twelve years destroying that option;

                  He forced the creation of demand for Charters by (1) cherry picking all available space (2) starving neighborhood schools of resources (3) closing neighborhood schools for their space.

                  Now parents of kindergarteners are forced to "choose" where to send their kid.  They don't get a slot in their zoned school and might be sent 2 miles or more away.

                  So yes, people apply to Charters but that's because Bloomberg's DOE was bent on destroying neighborhood schools.

        •  Sadly, true (11+ / 0-)

          The profitization motive crosses party lines, and has clearly infected Governor 1%.

        •  The President's Secretary of Education is one. (7+ / 0-)

          A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

          by slatsg on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 02:29:19 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  That Charter Stuff... (9+ / 0-)

        ...is egregious, outrageous... I don't have words enough to express my anger at him for it.

        •  absolutely... (6+ / 0-)

          Why are Governor Cuomo and so many others in favor of charters, when Eva Moscowitz offers such a clear indication of what charter schools stand for.

          (A) She "earns" $600,000 per yer, and her organization has paid in excess of $3 million on newspaper and television ads in support of her schools, yet she cries poverty and says she can't afford to pay rent for her facilities; she expects the taxpayers to provide them.

          (B) She closes her schools for a day and forces students and teachers to accompany her to Albany to stage a demonstration supporting her, although ostensibly they are supporting the idea of charters.  Her priority is to herself; education, if any, for the students, is secondary.  

          What other entrepreneur is entitled to rent-free space and a chance to draw on other public resources when launching or building a for-profit or (allegedly) not-for-profit venture?  What other entrepreneur is not jailed immediately for stealing from a group of children (i.e., the students in public schools) so she can reward other students?  

          If entrepreneur Eva M. and her allies are so convinced that charter schools are such a hot commodity, let them do the heavy lifting, arranging for financing from the private sector; the idea will sell itself.  

          It should not be up to the taxpayers to pay for an entrepreneur's little ventures -- and it should not be permissible for a self-promoter like Eva M. to steal resources from the public schools and the students at those schools just so she can line her pockets.

          Governor Cuomo's support of Ms. Moskowitz is shameful, as is his blatant overstepping in overriding every idea put forth by the New York City's mayor.  

          •  big contributors like charters and hate de Blasio (2+ / 0-)
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            big contributors at best think charters 'work' to 'fix' a broken system

            Cuomo got $800,000 from pro Charter groups
            see post

            And they spent $5 million attacking de Blasio over this in an orchestrated campaign (more than de Blasio spent on his mayor's race)  including half hour segments on moron joe

            all this over three schools

            And the big contributors hate de Blasio's 1/2% tax plan (now DOA) .  That would have cost someone making $20 million $100,000 a year for five years.  Take ten of those guys and you have an ad campaign. Take a 100 and they make money defeating de Blasio and the tax

  •  However.... (20+ / 0-)

    The problem is that all of the good little liberals of New York state are going to vote for him this year, and he'll cruise to victory by a wide margin. The Working Families Party has yet to decide if it's going to throw in a challenge. I doubt they will because it costs a lot of money, and they (much to their discredit) endorsed Cuomo back in 2010 and agreed to his agenda.

  •  Andrew Cuomo... Exhibit A1 of the bankruptcy (21+ / 0-)

    of the "more Democrats" strategy.

    When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

    by PhilJD on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 12:12:05 PM PDT

      •  Exactly (14+ / 0-)

        my reaction. I have had it with him.  I want him primaried. I hope he is primaried.

        Why yes there is a war on women and minorities.

        by karma5230 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 12:41:42 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Anyone have a prayer of beating him in a primary? (5+ / 0-)

          That's a rather imposing war chest he's collected, not to mention his likely hefty collection of IOUs.

          Would it be totally out of line to call Cuomo the "Democratic" Christie? The major difference being, of course, that Christie is a modern RW Republican through and through. As to Cuomo, his politically calculated support of marriage equality notwithstanding, it's beginning to look more and more like he is, too.

          "We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few. But we can't have both." - Justice Louis Brandeis

          by flitedocnm on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:00:47 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Probably not (2+ / 0-)
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            the problem with Cuomo is that he's been a competent governor and that's all most voters really care about.

            •  Most voters don't have a checklist like (0+ / 0-)

              some of our fellow Kossacks. You are dead on the money with "competent". I was living in London in during the 2010 cycle and didn't keep up with the ins and outs of campaigns. Did Cuomo run as a progressive?

              New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

              by AlexDrew on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 03:57:05 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  No (0+ / 0-)

                but in the wake of the Spitzer/Paterson drama, that didn't matter. All that mattered was competence.

                For lack of a better phrase, progressives shot their load with Spitzer. They really didn't have a leg to stand on in 2010.

                What many on the left don't realize is that in New York, while there si wide agreement with progressives on all issues, there has always been a hesitance to voting for hardcore liberals, in part because of the notion that they care uncompromising and therefore unable to effectively govern. This largely comes out of the Spitzer effect. Even before his sex scandal brought him down, he became an unpopular governor because he was seen as too much of an ideologue to govern effectively. Now he's the poster child for uncompromising ineffectiveness.

                The same caricature is emerging with Mayor de Blasio, that everything he does is political. (i.e. "he leaves schools open in snowstorms because like all liberals, he thinks parents shouldn't be responsible for their children, public schools should be"). Just today I've been hearing a lot of complaints over the fact that he brought up pre-K during a press scrum at Citi Field during Mets opening day. "Everything he does is political."

                It's a ridiculous assertion, but there is a sense, even among those who themselves are pretty far to the left, that to govern, you must abandon some principals.

            •  "Competent" (1+ / 0-)
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              depends on your point of view.

              If you look at Cuomo from the left, he's a "competent" professional politician (because he's Machiavellian in how he triangulates every move), but a piss-poor liberal.

              "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

              by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:27:02 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Most don't look at him through that lens (0+ / 0-)

                all that matters is "are budgets on time, is the state functioning, is the economy ok?"

                When you look at the management of the state under Pataki, Spitzer and Paterson and compare it to Cuomo, you can't possibly make the assertion that he isn't the best of the bunch, even if he isn't at all a liberal.

                If he were a Republican, he would win reelection.

                •  Maybe. (0+ / 0-)

                  Personally, I found Spitzer to be quite competent.

                  Had he kept his pants on....

                  "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

                  by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 08:23:41 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  The aura of incompetence (0+ / 0-)

                    came because he uncompromising. It came across as "my way or I blow everything up." People don't like that regardless of whether or not it's someone fighting for their principles.

                    That's why his approval ratings was in the 30s months before the scandal.

                    Had he kept his pants on, Idk, maybe he would've survived, maybe he wouldn't been primaried by Cuomo anyway.

                    On-time budgets are the main reason people see Cuomo as competent, because they were unheard of before him.

                    •  In my view (2+ / 0-)
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                      competence isn't always popular.  As was pointed out the other day by Richard Brodsky - on-time budgets don't mean they're done right.  In fact, in many cases, the later they are, the better.

                      Spitzer - and his "I'm a fuckin' steamroller!" attitude really wasn't all that different than Cuomos "I'm the government!" attitude.

                      People just view them differently, though their personalities are much the same.  Both are man-children who must get their way, or they throw a tantrum.

                      The only real difference lies with how the press portrays them.  Spitzer was vilified for that attitude, Cuomo has been sainted for it.  Why?  The press disagreed with Spitzers more liberal policies, and tend to fall right in line for Cuomos pro-corporate crap.  Go figure - the press in this state is largely controlled by a handful of large conglomerates....

                      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

                      by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 10:49:03 PM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

                      •  Perhaps (1+ / 0-)
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                        I don't disagree that they're similar and that the press treats them differently

                        But the thing is, it helps that when Cuomo wants something, he gets it, but when Spitzer wanted something, he didn't get it, and that plays in the minds of voters.

                        If people said no to Cuomo, his approval ratings would plummet.

                        •  Agreed. (1+ / 0-)
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                          Saying no to him would hurt him.  If the press would report it that way.

                          Problem is, he's already been told no.  On fracking.  On pension amortization.  Basically, on more than a few high profile items.

                          However, his image and his perceived power doesn't suffer - largely due to the way the Capitol press corps frames the losses.  Again, "Cuomo the All-Powerful" is largely a creation of the press.  Silver could stand in his way any time he wants to.  But Silver, being a calm, cool political actor, apparently just feels its best to bide his time and let Cuomo hang himself.  He's likely right: with the level of sleeze Cuomo exudes, it's likely only a matter of time before his administration ends up caught up in scandal.  That's my prediction.

                          "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

                          by Darth Stateworker on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:43:15 AM PDT

                          [ Parent ]

  •  Speaking of trolls, kos (10+ / 0-)

    we have a real lulu who is one his/her second timeout.

    I normally wouldn't bring this to one of your diaries, but the comment history is filled with endless RW garbage and insults to other Kossacks here.

    Loves the Cuomo budget, though!

    Maybe you could take a gander.

  •  Cuomo just stole the JPMorgan settlement (23+ / 0-)

    with NYS to basically offset more corporate tax cuts for folks like...JPMorgan.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/...

    Yeah, he sucks.

    "after the Rapture, we get all their shit"

    the albany project.

    by lipris on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 12:22:19 PM PDT

  •  Lieberman? I'd compare him to Christie (18+ / 0-)

    But unlike Christie, Cuomo has no folksy appeal whatever.  He's what everyone beyond NY thinks they hate about New York.  He's going no where.  

  •  Don't we have a better word to use than (17+ / 0-)

    "trolling"?

    To wit:

    Cuomo Sharpens Knives for Backstabbing of Fellow Democrats

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 12:47:22 PM PDT

  •  Cuomo's opponent (12+ / 0-)

    for governor, Rob Astorino, has announced that he is opting his children out of standardized testing.  Democrats are responding:

    Comments from Diane Ravitch blog:

    "As a life long Democrat, I have only voted for a republican, on occasion, at the local level. I will more than likely be voting republican for governor come November."

    "As a fellow Democrat, I’m right there with you. I am definitely paying attention to Astorino. From what I read in the local paper, he showed up at a local education opt out rally on Long Island this past Saturday in support of educators, parents, children and citizens. With all the damage Cuomo has done to education, I will gladly cast my vote for a Republican who cares about education."

    At the risk of repeating myself, Dem candidates better wake up to education issues and fast if they expect to get anywhere in 2014, 2016.
  •  not Lieberman, Christie... (7+ / 0-)

    Lieberman, for all his horrible positions, didn't use the government apparatus and abuse his power to punish political rivals the way Christie and Cuomo have done. I would never vote for him, but he's just an idiot. These two are far worse.

  •  Am I missing something? (3+ / 0-)
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    As a lifelong Newyorker, both up and downstate, I can't help but think Cuomo is an improvement over recent predecessors like Pataki, Spitzer and Patterson. I have differences with him, of course, but I can't say I haven't seen lots worse.

    If my soldiers were to begin to think, not one would remain in the ranks. -Frederick the Great

    by Valatius on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:10:57 PM PDT

    •  Yup, I feel the same about (0+ / 0-)

      him as I did Pataki, and I can say I haven't seen worse.


      The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

      by nupstateny on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 02:01:44 PM PDT

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    •  What, exactly (0+ / 0-)

      is your beef with Spitzer?

      He was certainly much more liberal than Cuomo.

      Paterson was a bumbling idiot, but even he wasn't Mr. Corporate-Friendly like Cuomo is - though for a while, he did come across as nothing more than a lame-duck Cuomo puppet.

      Shit, I'd even say Pataki in his later years was more liberal that Cuomo.

      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

      by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:38:02 PM PDT

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  •  Schneiderman (13+ / 0-)

    Schneiderman might be too powerful to target with Cuomo's "Fair Elections" testing ground, but he got at the Attorney General another way: by cutting him off from funds re-couped from a JP Morgan Chase settlement. http://www.nydailynews.com/...

  •  it's credited to Tip O'Neill, but I'll say it... (1+ / 0-)
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    All politics is local.

    "Me" > "local" > "party".

    The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

    by wesmorgan1 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:15:06 PM PDT

  •  Gov. Cuomo is not as tasty as his Food Network (2+ / 0-)
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    once or current love interests?   I'm not a Cuomo fan, in case you have doubts.

  •  I'd hate to vote for a Republican (1+ / 0-)
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    But between a Republican and Republican lite? And by the way, F--K Cuomo!

    You can't take the sky from me!

    by wrights on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:25:54 PM PDT

  •  Disagree with the Lieberman comparison (12+ / 0-)

    Cuomo is worse.

    Lieberman was never more than one vote in the Senate and even at the end of his career was still pushing good things like the repeal of DADT. And he never pushed impossible-to-reverse bad innovations like casino on every block. Nor did he ever vote with the Rethugs to organize the Senate; compare to Cuomo's support for Jeff Klein.

    I don't regret my Cuomo vote in 2010 but that is only because Paladino may have been the worst GOP candidate of that year (and that is saying something). But I sure wish that we had a better Democrat as governor.

  •  Primary? (2+ / 0-)
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    I was about to post a diary fishing for suggestions and then a poll.

  •  I guess we need our own Chris Christie. (4+ / 0-)

    "Bob Johnson doesn't have special privileges, because really, why would I entrust that guy with ANYTHING?" - kos, November 9, 2013

    by Bob Johnson on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:44:19 PM PDT

  •  My governor. No, I'm not happy about it. (3+ / 0-)

    I fully agree with the comparison to Joe Lieberman. He certainly is more like Joe than his father, Mario.
    I liked Mario. The kid, well...
    He seems to be trying very hard to be as unlike his father as he can.

    "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:47:41 PM PDT

  •  I've never trusted Cuomo. /nt (2+ / 0-)
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    by ArthurPoet on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:49:23 PM PDT

  •  I remember reports of Cuomo Jr (7+ / 0-)

    being an asshole from long before he became governor. None of this has surprised me much.

    The thing about quotes on the internet is you cannot confirm their validity. ~Abraham Lincoln

    by raboof on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:53:09 PM PDT

    •  Living Up to Expectations (4+ / 0-)
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      Cuomo is acting just like the early reports about him revealed.  His problem is that he aspires to higher office and he will have relatively little chance of reaching it.  Somehow, he must persuade Hillary Clinton to not run for President in 2016 or to not run for re-election in 2020.  Otherwise, Cuomo will have to hope he can remain in office as NYS Governor through 2022 in time to not run again and start campaigning for the 2024 election.  

      His problem is NYS politics and, in particular, the effect of three terms on most NYS politicians as governor.  By the end of three terms, most NYS governors are as rancid as milk left out for a month in the Sahara desert sun.  Cuomo's approach to politics will just make him even less attractive and his third-way strategy will just about guarantee some sort of financial scandal along the way.  This popularity decay for NYS governors appears to be party independent as well, so his chances of escaping it are relatively slim.

      "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

      by PrahaPartizan on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 02:04:17 PM PDT

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      •  I hope he runs in 2016 (1+ / 0-)
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        It's our only possible chance of getting rid of him.

        But I guess he's smart enough not to run against Hillary. On the other hand, he surely is aware of what happened to his father and Pataki and may want to take the opportunity to make a national name for himself by running in the primaries.

        •  I don't see who votes for him in primaries (6+ / 0-)

          Cuomo is a name that resonates in NY but no one else remembers his father.  He has as much appeal in the Midwest as Romney.  He'd have less appeal than Kerry.  He's too far right for base voters and his personality is far too cold fish for the Midwest, south and west.   I try to imagine him campaigning in a cold barn in Iowa or at a state fair.  Christie could do it.  Cuomo, I don't think so.

        •  Campaigning Won't Affect Popularity (0+ / 0-)

          About the only way that Cuomo's campaigning in 2016 could affect his popularity in NYS would be to take him outside the state for large periods of time so that the voters could forget about him.  The only other way that his campaigning would  help him would be to try to qualify as VP material, but  a Hillary Clinton Presidential candidacy would end that route since both he and she are residents of NYS.  Campaigning for President in 2016, with his 2nd term as NYS governor ending in 2018 means he's be spending six long years in the wilderness, unless he could get a top tier Cabinet slot with a Clinton administration in the interim before  the 2024 election.  Top tier would mean Secretary of the Treasury, State, or Defense.  He's got no academic background for the first, no experience of any sort for the third and a personality which would endanger the nation for the second.  Andy's problem is that he has no good options after 2018.   Even going to Wall Street to earn a flood of money would just make him persona non grata with most of his own party in the end.

          "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

          by PrahaPartizan on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 10:03:25 PM PDT

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  •  What. The. Fuck. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Mystifying... I thought MARIO Cuomo such (3+ / 0-)
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    a terrific progressive Democrat -- articulate, accurate, not afraid to tell the truth (including "deeper" truths), accessible... I wished more than a few times he'd run for President... and was very disappointed when I saw him say he wouldn't... His son, unfortunately, has been very much a disappointment.  Wonder how Dad feels about it...

    "There's always room for cello." Yo Yo Ma

    by ceebee7 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 02:20:18 PM PDT

    •  Meh. (0+ / 0-)

      The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

      People tend to look back at Mario with rose-colored glasses, but he wasn't as "liberal" as people remember.

      Mythical Mario is held up on a pedestal in the same way the GOPers hold Mythical Reagan up on one.  Neither were what they are remembered to be.

      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

      by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:54:33 PM PDT

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  •  I supported him in the past (2+ / 0-)
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    despite policies I disagreed with. I thought he was savvy, and I was happy that he divided the Republicans. But increasingly he's dividing Democrats, and not just over policy. I think his popularity with the oligarchs has gone completely to his head, and I've changed my mind.

    The problem is that he's basically bought everybody in the state off except progressives, and he's incredibly popular. A sharp progressive challenger could get some traction (not enough to win, but enough to shape the conversation), but might well drive Cuomo even further to the right, especially if the Republicans nominate a wacko again.

    Given New York's lack of term limits for governor, we may never be rid of him--unless he runs for president, which might drive down his popularity in the state by shining a light on his ties to billionaires.

    •  From everything I've seen (0+ / 0-)

      Astorino isn't going to be a whacko.  Nothing precludes Paladino (or some whacko like him) from mounting a primary against Astorino, but I don't think it will happen.

      As such, with Astorino being a mainstream New York Republican of the non-whacko type, Cuomo won't have much room to his right to move to.

      However an attack from his left could make him look like the "moderate centrist" he tries to play himself off as.

      Basically, the key to getting rid of Cuomo is in getting people to actually pay attention to his policies and not just his last name.  Something that doesn't really happen, as most people tend not to follow politics very closely.

      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

      by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:58:44 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  No amount of Koch Brothers cash (11+ / 0-)

    or Citizen's United ads can buy the sort of nation-wide brand damaging cynicism and demoralization that an Andrew Cuomo can gift Movement Conservatism with just by being himself and rising up to beltway rockstar status in the party. Looking at that appearance he made with the Charter School Baroness, I could see him calling a press conference to bash Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders dreaming of a very super Super Tuesday. There is nothing he offers corporate America or the 1% where his deal is so good that they can't get a much better deal from the Republican Party.

    When I encounter a Cuomo fan I'm always struck by how incredulous they are that everybody isn't fainting over him like he's the fifth Beatle. How can you not be impressed? He's like Tom Friedman's gift to America. He will neutralize the GOP on taxes because he's cut them. He will undermine the negative ads because he will always punch the nearest hippy or stand with the smarmiest bags of human money in a suit.

    And if Tom Friedman's vote was worth 100 million regular Americans vote, that might mean something.

    I feel bad for working poor New Yorkers.

    Please, let him stay out of national politics.

    I imagine that if Hilary Clinton declares that she is out, Andrew will shove people out of the way, and knock over Joe Biden like he was somebody between my Uncle Mike and a beer, to get to the podium to say he's in.

    He's an ass-kicking waiting to happen if he is ever a national candidate for our party. The kind of guy who would think that declaring that he would put Harold Ford in as Secretary of Labor and Joe Lieberman in as Secretary of Defense would be a killer move. Michelle Rhee in charge of Education policy! Boom! A score that would drive legions of people living paycheck-to-paycheck and drowning in Movement Conservative policy plagued America to the polls. What's more likely? A Scott Walker winning Nevada and Colorado vs Cuomo, or an Andrew Cuomo winning Ohio and Florida over a Walker? I don't want to find out.

    Just close your eyes and imagine Andrew Cuomo and Mark Warner vs. Scott Walker and Brian Sandoval as a Presidential match-up. That is how we end up with a Republican President in an age where so many in DC are sure that the Republicans have no shot at the White House due to demographics and the GOP being unpopular.

    He's the GOP's dream Democrat come true.

    If he loses, they get a freak in the door, if he wins, they get Andrew Cuomo to put a bunch of guys from Third Way and the American Enterprise Institute on the White House tax reform commission. Another round of Simpson and Bowles to recommend Social Security reform policy.  

    Sheldon Adelson shouldn't waste his money on GOP Presidential ring-kissing ceremonies. He should be hoping and praying that Hilary Clinton takes a pass, and then be feverishly setting up a SuperPac to support Andrew Cuomo as a pro-business bipartisanship and compromise Bloomberg for a Scott Walker or Jeb Bush to beat the shit out of in a Presidential race. The Koch Brothers will be there to help cull the freaks from the GOP primary shit-show. A wingnut billionaire, like Steve Wynn or Shelly, could take the other side of the street for Cuomo.  

    Our own little Mitt Romney, so smug and sure he is going to win the White House, right up until the moment he loses and a new darker age begins in America.

    “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.” — Auric Goldfinger

    by LeftHandedMan on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 02:44:26 PM PDT

    •  and this is why I hope he runs (5+ / 0-)

      because his popularity will nosedive when he gets into the primaries and has to defend his pro-oligarchy stances. He'll no longer be the candidate who put together a left-right coalition. Instead, he'll be the the furthest right candidate. That's a recipe for failure in a Dem primary.

      It's what NY/NJ politicians never figure out: You can't buy off a whole country the way you can buy off a state.

  •  What a rip-off (1+ / 0-)
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  •  is it just me, or did deblasio just get $$ 4 prek? (3+ / 0-)
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    Cuomo has been a shill for charter schools, and the local papers have been running with "Bill over his head" meme..Cuomo wouldn't allow NYC to tax the 1% to pay for the program, but in an election year, Cuomo forked over 300 mil in state aide to get it going...The NY Times this morning had the lede of DeBlasio being burdened by the new program, which will be hard to implement...HELLO...he ran on that program...he wanted it, it's not an albatross..

    Cuomo wanted to drop the millionaire's surcharge when he came into office...after occupy wallstreet made him sound like the governor of the 1%, he couldn't gut it  completely

    He's a huge disappointment

    •  It's the Charter School provsions (1+ / 0-)
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      that are going to screw over DeBlasio.  

      Makes me so angry.

      Why yes there is a war on women and minorities.

      by karma5230 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 04:02:55 PM PDT

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    •  He got $ (1+ / 0-)
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      but no where near the amount of money he said he needed.

      And the rest of the state got even less for pre-K, meaning now, there's a new partially unfunded mandate for local property taxpayers to pick up the tab for.

      And as the municipalities go even more broke due to it, Cuomo can bash them even further and claim it's their fault.

      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

      by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 08:03:10 PM PDT

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    •  NYC Can't Count on the Money (1+ / 0-)
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      The issue is that NYC cannot count on NYS providing the fundng.  Several years back a court case was finally decided which ordered the state to provide an enormous amount of money to NYC to make up for past deficiencies in funding.  The state is still taking its time providing the funding - to make up for failures going back thirty years.  Cuomo is offering a pittance THIS year - an election year - to make it appear he's willing to fund the pre-K program, but next year will see the state fallling back into its business as usual approach.  That's particularly true since Cuomo's support has enabled the Republicans to retain control of the Senate and they will not be willing to fund NYC school programs at anything approaching a viable level.  It's Cuoum's equivalent of a Potemkin village.  Look hard enough and you'll see there's nothing there.

      "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

      by PrahaPartizan on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 10:13:09 PM PDT

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  •  Just today me and a repug discussed Cuomo (2+ / 0-)
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    We both agree we hate him

    after that well ..

    I contend Cuomo is a repug with a D next to his name, the repug disagreed (Gun Nut who bought up ammo after Obama election as he feared he wouldn't be able to buy more)

    When a progressive AND a NRA-fetish tea-partier both HATE Cuomo, what does that say? LOL

    Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

    by Mannie on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 03:51:50 PM PDT

    •  Gundamentalists (1+ / 0-)
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      go crazy over Cuomo because of the SAFE Act.

      Had Cuomo never went after that, your repug acquaintance might view Cuomo quite differently.  But you know how it is with gundamentalists.  They're like Bible-Thumpers - gun issues trump all others.

      Basically, they're the worst sort of single issue voters.

      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

      by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 08:05:50 PM PDT

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  •  Cuomo hates Tom DiNapoli. (4+ / 0-)
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    As such, is it any wonder why he is using the Comptroller as the "guinea pig" for his plan?

    DiNapoli is a stand up guy.  He'll accept the funding.  His Republican challenger, whoever that may be, likely won't.

    As such, the Republican will be able to easily outraise DiNapoli (likely with Cuomos help), and DiNapoli will get creamed in November.

    Cuomo wants a Republican partner in crime at the Comptrollers office.  If it wasn't for DiNapoli, he already would have decimated the states pension plans and their trust funds.  Luckily, DiNapoli, as the funds sole trustee, had some say-so that Cuomo just couldn't overrride.

    "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

    by Darth Stateworker on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 03:55:15 PM PDT

  •  He's my governor and i cannot stand him (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Kids of liberal champions can be super assholes (3+ / 0-)
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    At least for those kids who run for and gain political office.  I can think of another major asshole offhand - Evan Bayh.  As you may recall, Bayh is now working for the Chamber of Commerce.  I'm sure Andrew Cuomo will go down the same route.  

    I'm not entirely sure why the kids zig when the fathers zagged, but I'm betting it might have something to do with the fact that Andrew and Evan grew up in comfortable circumstances and absorbed all the rotten assumptions that America's Beltway establishment hold.

  •  He's running for Jeb's Veep. nt (1+ / 0-)
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  •  There was weirdness (3+ / 0-)
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    in the last NY election, between Cuomo and Schneiderman / DiNapoli. I remember the AG + Comptroller races were tight, but there was no special effort for them. All materials available for campaigning were the full ticket only, with Cuomo at the top. You couldn't go volunteer for just the AG race, you had to take materials for Cuomo that had AG + Comptroller on it too.

    I remember thinking it felt really weird, since Cuomo had a wide margin in the polls but Schneiderman + DiNapoli were very close.

    Cuomo rubs me the wrong way. I don't trust him.

    The Rapture will be cancelled due to budget cuts. -- Bill in Portland

    by brooklynliberal on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 05:07:59 PM PDT

    •  A problem was that the Rethugs had good candidates (0+ / 0-)

      for AG and Comptroller -- unlike their candidate for Governor. Cuomo was guaranteed election and should have been going all out fro DiNapoli and Schneiderman. That should have clued us in right then and there.

      A better clue was 2002 when he lost the Democratic Primary to Carl McCall and sat on his hands as McCall lost badly to Pataki. McCall lost 58 of 62 counties.

  •  So maybe a plot thickens? ... (2+ / 0-)
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    I have been wondering for a while about the "patronage cow" that is the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.  We have been seen how Christie has used that agency for both paybacks of loyal friends via appointments to jobs in the agency  and we have the scent of how contracts from that agency are patronage to Christie's political donors.

    The "quietude" in all of the brouhaha that has come from our side of the Hudson i.e. Cuomo has made me very suspicious about his own skeletons.

    Cuomo learned well from his father about NY State patronage.  I have had a feeling that there is potentially another PANYNJ scandal but from the other side of the river.  This weekend when it was reported that $300M in funds miraculously appeared for NYC pre-school made me wonder if some ill-conceived contract that would normally be invisible was being "money laundered" (i.e. a quiet withdrawal of funds from some embarrassingly obvious patronage PANYNJ contract).

    And now this.  I'm just voicing my skepticism and noting two events that juxtapose.  I'm not implying any conspiracy here.

    "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

    by Glinda on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 05:46:26 PM PDT

  •  I despise cuomo (1+ / 0-)
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  •  so its not just me (1+ / 0-)
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    so I am not alone in seeing Cuomo is mot what I expect in a Democrat
    with Democrats like him, who needs Republicans

    (would Paladino have been better tho?)

  •  Taken For Granted (3+ / 0-)
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    I hate the way Cuomo takes us New York Dem. voters for granted.  I sure wish some Progressive would primary him for NY Governor in 2014.  Granted beating Cuomo from the left is not plausible, but at least it would remind him that he can't go as far as he wants to the right without losing us folks on the left.

    "Some men see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were and ask, 'Why not?"

    by Doctor Who on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 06:31:24 PM PDT

  •  There Is A Reason For Focusing On Comptroller (1+ / 0-)
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    There is a good, non-political reason for focusing on the Comptroller's race for piloting public campaign financing. The Comptroller is responsible for investing the assets for the state's pension funds and so is particularly vulnerable to influence by business interests looking to steer investments to their particular firms. The proposal to start public financing only with the Comptroller's position predates Cuomo's decision by a couple of years.

    But that in no way excuses Cuomo's cowardly approach. The funds for comprenensive public campaign financing were in the Assembly and Senate budgets, and Cuomo spoke strongly in favor of this reform on many occasions. It's a betrayal for him to go with such a minuscule step after having taken such a strong position on the matter. I can only conclude that he wasn't serious all along, since he passed up the opportunity to get this done when he had the chance. And he seemed equally unwilling to twist arms to get this done when legislation got stuck in the Senate last year.

    It's a disgrace. There was no reason for this to be a partisan issue. Poll after poll showed support for public financing across the political spectrum. I think it's become clear that Cuomo just doesn't want it so much, regardless of what he says about it.

  •  Late comment, but I could argue Cuomo's worse. (0+ / 0-)
    I'm fond of comparing Cuomo to Joe Lieberman, and the comparison fits better by the day.
    While admittedly failing to provide much needed votes for many economically- and politically-useful Democratic issues; being a morale-suck for liberal ideas and initiatives; and exuding his constant, anti-Democratic TV presence, at least Holy Joe was ensconced inside a Senate of 100 members, where his personal impact was somewhat muted.  Cuomo, as executive, could have much more direct progressive impact, if only he chose to.

    "Push the button, Max!" Jack Lemmon as Professor Fate, The Great Race

    by bartcopfan on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 12:38:40 PM PDT

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