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U.S. House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) (L) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) speak at a news conference about the U.S. debt ceiling crisis at the U.S. Capitol in Washington July 30, 2011. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst  
The Obamacare repeal obsession with Republicans has become downright pathological. Despite the polling, despite the obvious demand, despite the obvious success of this first open enrollment under the law, they want to kill it.

House Speaker John Boehner:

House Republicans will continue to work to repeal this law and protect families and small businesses from its harmful consequences," he added.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell:
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said that “millions of Americans [are] facing higher premiums, canceled plans and the loss of doctors and hospitals they liked as a result of this law.” Once again, he called for it to be scrapped.
At least 14 million people, and maybe as many as 22 million will have quality, affordable, guaranteed insurance. That we know. What we don't know is what Republicans would do for those millions of Americans if they ever did manage to repeal the law. That's because, despite all of their promises, and four years of talking about it, they can't come up with a plan. They can't figure out how to continue all the protections that people now have with Obamacare and actually get a majority of Republicans behind it. We're never going to see their replacement plan because it can't be done. So when all else fails, they'll just have a repeal vote. And then another.

Meanwhile, 22 million people are going to get really used to the security and the peace of mind, not to mention the health benefits, of having good insurance. And the only answer the Republicans have right now is to take it away from them. That really is pathological.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:08 AM PDT.

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  •  ACA repeal = GOPanel Death /nt (27+ / 0-)

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:10:51 AM PDT

  •  Republicans= we hate Obama, (28+ / 0-)

    and you should too! They are controlled by their hate of the President, and don't care where that leads or leaves the rest of Americans .

  •  Double down, Mitch! (15+ / 0-)

    And the same Fox News graph showing the huge distance between $6 million at March 27 and the goal of $7 million at March 31 can be re-used by Fox to show the amazing surge at the end of the enrollment period.

  •  GOP needs some new leadership.......these guys are (15+ / 0-)


  •  Nobody should expect any different (25+ / 0-)

    They have picked this hill upon which to die.

    Surrender is not an option for them; they would never recover. Every voter in their base would stay home this November. They'd lose the House and they'd probably surrender 5-6 more Senate seats. The risk associated with continuing to at least appear as if they intend to repeal ACA are miniscule in comparison with the risks associated with standing up and saying "we lost."

    •  Yes, and Repeal Obamacare and Investigate Benghazi (2+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat, jyssco

      is the GOTV message that will ensure Boehner stays as Speaker and Mitch McConnell becomes Majority Leader.

      Obamacare isn't gonna drive Democrats to the polls, offering up something progressive, like protecting and expanding Social Security WILL. And the sooner the President and the party leadership realise that, the better.

    •  Maybe that's true... (10+ / 0-)

      but what a reflection on the stupidity of American politics!

      All this hullabaloo over tweaking a health insurance bill? The media and the GOP have turned this into some existential issue, when it is actually a moderate tweak to an existing system that preserves many of its preexisting flaws and doesn't even end up at the ultimate goal of universal health care. Don't get me wrong; it does control health care costs longer term and is good legislation.  But WTF?  Have we never heard of "dream no small dreams"?  This is the great accomplishment of this Administration?  This is the existential line in the sand for the GOP?

      Have we all lost our minds?  

      The oceans are acidifying and we are tipping into the next great extinction on earth. We are dealing with environmentally and economically unsustainable growth in China and a real possibility of another global  meltdown if the real estate bubble there collapses. We cannot keep spending on an imperial global military without over-extending and we need urgently to spread the responsibility with EU countries and other allies. We got health care for 10 million, but there are 12 million people facing deportation with hope for immigration reform all but lost.

      I guess that's pretty pessimistic, but I just don't understand the GOP freakout over the ACA, or our elation about it for that matter.

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:08:33 AM PDT

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      •  It's a bigger problem than politics (3+ / 0-)
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        ivorybill, anon004, FindingMyVoice

        General disregard for reality, facts, science, and reason has exploded in the last 10 years. There is now a prevalent view that people are entitled to their own realities, no matter how divorced from the objective one.

        The media is the central enabler here. Every news story must have two sides; that's the shortcut that lets them claim objectivity.

      •  Your own sig line partly answers your question (1+ / 0-)
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        Ivorybill, as American capitalism polarizes wealth ever more obscenely, it has no choice but to look to our horrible past to find a way to control the many with but a few henchmen.  In order to keep goosing their quarterly profits and increasing each other's fortunes by passing their money back and forth, the rich must find henchmen who will work for free; who work for ideology.  The ideology must tell them that they are akin to the rich, that they are thus junior partners as the natural masters of the world and the inferior types.  It must tell them that those different than themselves are defective and evil; thus as demographics make them a minority, it must turn against democracy itself.

        It is no coincidence that:
        a. All the factions of the American Right are officially obsessed with returning to some part of the past
        b. All the factions of the American Right have ideological priests who claim that "America is a republic, not a democracy."

        As the arguments over inequality get more heated, we are steered to only two conclusions; either the poor are criminals, or the rich (and their henchmen) are criminals.  If the growing number of Americans in financial desperation is the fault of capitalism, then that makes all modern conservatives part of a criminal conspiracy, for all of them, libertarians, gun nuts, Christian theocrats, neocons, and corporate apologists, fought mightily to restore America to a past when financial desperation was the norm for the masses, and the henchmen ruled over them as sanctified bullies.  They will murder us all before they let us stand together and call them criminals.  But they would rather lie loud enough and hard enough to trick enough of us into voting with them to get in charge long enough to legally terminate democracy, county by county, state by state.

    •  has a republican ever said that? (2+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat, jyssco

      it's a serious question.
      They don't acknowledge that Rmoney lost. That election was stolen, dontcha know.
      The US didn't lose in Vietnam, either. (It was a tie)
      The recent state of US health care (before the ACA turned us into  a nation of dead people) is #1 in the world, period.
      We are always #1, despite being beset on all sides by sinister forces trying to take that anointing away from us, and the only ones who see this and care to protect us from it are the republicans. RW philosophy is incapable of failure, all setbacks are due to sabotage or lack of fealty to the purest ideology.

      They actually believe this.
      One common trait amongst the 'conservatives' I know and the observed behaviors of the ones in congress is that there is a complete blind spot where admission of wrong is supposed to reside. Self-reflection and especially self-criticism is simply not done by these people. Witness the pivot away from Bush when the economy nosedived after 8 yrs of republican policies. Witness the complete lack of shame about the bogus justification for invading Iraq, and the contempt heaped upon those who dared mention that glaring, murderous disconnect. Witness the 9/11 attacks 9 months into a republican, keep-us-safe administration.
      Witness the bald faced lie of trickle down and austerity.
      Witness the unskewing of polls.
      Witness Bill freaking Kristol and Karl Rove.
      Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong again.

      But never, ever is that clear truth to be spoken.
      Unfortunately, those who speak publicly with these terrible people have internalized this psychopathy as a cultural norm, so the media kowtows to its symptoms.

      Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

      by kamarvt on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:20:32 AM PDT

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      •  "The Authoritarians" by Bob Altemeyer (2+ / 0-)
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        OregonWetDog, kamarvt

        is a MUST READ for everyone who is interested in american politics.

        Day after day, week after week, the republicans validate all the findings of Mr. Altemeyer. You recognize all the patterns, it's incredible.

        I think we should have a tweeter campaign to put authoritarianism into the national conversation. At least, democratic politicians, media people in particular need to be aware of the subject.

  •  It's all they've got (14+ / 0-)

    It's what they've drummed incessantly into the lizard brains of the base for four years, and built every single one of their platforms on. They're counting on the Pavlovian response to continue to work for the 2014 elections; ring the bell again and watch the base mindlessly drool and come out to vote as they're directed - as usually, without actually doing any thinking about inconvenient things like 'how will this affect my own interests?'.

    Kind daypart! I do not have the masculine heat alongside. One Love, but imitations under it are thousands. - Russian mail-order bride Tatiana

    by Fordmandalay on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:22:10 AM PDT

  •  They've reached peak absurdity (16+ / 0-)

    levels. I know it will never happen but I wish any reporter interviewing them would laugh loudly and openly at them.

    We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

    by Vita Brevis on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:23:30 AM PDT

  •  "Stay the course, by God, stay the course!!" (7+ / 0-)

    "To do otherwise telegraphs weakness!!!"

    Imagine the most profound idea ever conceptualized occupying this space. Now expect exactly the opposite. You'll never be disappointed.

    by Gurnt on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:39:27 AM PDT

  •  No Mr. Boehner, republicans continue to VOTE to (8+ / 0-)

    Repeal Obamacare, there's no effort or work going into it because even your martini addled brain knows repeal would be like putting toothpaste back in the tube at this point.

  •  LOL April Fool! (12+ / 0-)

    Good one, Joan! You had me going for a minute.  They can't be that stupid in real life.

    We do not forgive. We do not forget. The whole world is watching.

    by Tracker on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:49:16 AM PDT

    •  actually, yes they ARE that stupid (9+ / 0-)

      why else would they still be harping about Benghazi and Fast and furious and the IRs non--scandals. the IRS was doing its job and following what the  law says, a gun and drug bust went bad, and being in an embassy in a dangerous part of the world carries risks. did any of these idiots remember what happened in Beirut under Reagan? I think about 60 times as many soldiers died as were killed in the Embassy, but you don't hear word 1 about that now do we?

      •  1983 and 1984 (0+ / 0-)

        In 1983 - 63 people died in the Beirut bombing, of them, 17 were Americans.  They moved the embassy to a "more secure" location, and in 1984 - 22 were killed in another bombing in that location (2 Americans).  

        But, we all know Benghazi is about Hillary.  Not dead innocents.  They are grinding this axe to heighten hate on Hillary.

    •  Heh. (0+ / 0-)

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

      by Joan McCarter on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:37:51 AM PDT

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  •  Re: Economic Claims in Boehner's Statement (11+ / 0-)

    Speaker Boehner's Claims:

    "The president's health care law continues to wreak havoc on ... our economy ....  Many small businesses are afraid to hire new workers ..... And taxpayers are being forced to pick up an unaffordable tab.... House Republicans will continue to work to repeal this law .... that has become a significant barrier to job growth ....”
    The Actual Economic Record Under Obamacare:
    Since the enactment of Obamacare, more than 8.5 million jobs have been created in the private sector, a dramatic turnaround from the 3.6 million lost under Republican policies in the decade before Obamacare.  

    And far from "imposing an unaffordable tab" on taxpayers, Obamacare is helping to bring previously skyrocketing medical costs under control, which is helping to bring down the budget deficit:

    As for the claims in Speaker Boehner's statement that Obamacare is having an adverse impact on premiums in general and is bad for seniors on Medicare in particular, here's the reality:

    [A]verage premiums for coverage through the marketplaces are about 15 percent lower than the CBO previously projected..... The rate of increase in real health spending per person is at its lowest point in 50 years and more than 3 percentage points under the historical average ....

    Just by phasing out the infamous “donut hole” created in the 2003 prescription drug law, the ACA has saved almost 8 million seniors nearly $10 billion. On top of that, real growth in Medicare spending per beneficiary has averaged virtually zero since 2010—that means lower premiums and out-of-pocket costs for our parents and grandparents. And, since the law’s passage, actuaries have extended the life of the Medicare trust fund by almost 10 years..... Since the law passed, average Medicare Advantage premiums are down by more than 9 percent, enrollment in plans has increased by 38 percent and the quality of plans has steadily gotten better.

  •  hardly surprising (7+ / 0-)

    These f*ckers would repeal Social Security if they could.

    They can't deal with the New Deal, and it's been what, 80 years? I can't see how they would ever give up on trying to gut the ACA.

    “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

    by ivorybill on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:53:35 AM PDT

  •  Pathological, yes, but let 'em keep at it (6+ / 0-)

    I'm relieved frankly they're still riding that horse. The longer they do, the worse for them. It's at least a sign that they can't think of a better argument.

  •  John of orange with yellow stripe (5+ / 0-)

    leaderless leader of the clown house, and his side kick Mitch
    slow poke turtle McConnell doing their favored tap dance and soft shoe revue.

    and it comes with dancing tea bags, smoke machine, 5 lbs of glitter and Disco ball.

  •  Wish: perhaps a Democratic Party project should be (2+ / 0-)
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    shoeless, Aunt Pat

    to begin labeling the Republican representatives and senators as psychotic. Their individual and group denials of reality ARE psychotic.

    Repealing Obamacare is actually a form of mob psychology that demonstrates Boehner, his boneheads, and the Tali-baggers are actually nuts.

    I think the 53% would enjoy an actual campaign describing Boehner and McConnell as paranoid schizophrenics. Then extend the identity to all of their colleagues--rightwingNUTjobz.

    We're all just working for Pharoah.

    by whl on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:00:37 AM PDT

    •  May I suggest we don't use these labels. (2+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat, a2nite

      These people are evil, not mentally ill.

      "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats ..." - Kenneth Grahame -

      by RonK on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:29:34 AM PDT

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      •  I believe sociopathology is (1+ / 0-)
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        a personality disorder, i.e. mental illness.  Inherent in the disorder is narcissism - lack of empathy for others.  In a sane world, these characteristics should be a limiting factor for those seeking to represent others and create laws.  

        Words from Republican mouth holes mean NOTHING.  They are a pretend, make-believe action they have learned.  It is about how to gain and retain power.  And the end justifies the means.  

        That's why lies are thick as ______
        (name your favorite metaphor).  

      •  Obviously, I think quite otherwise. (0+ / 0-)

        In my opinion, based on a few years as a registered counselor, both Boehner and McConnell are actually very psychotic. Darrel Issa is a dangerous sociopath. There is a herd of "no-name" representatives who have no actual connection to any semblance of reality.

        Can you even imagine doing an intake and preliminary interview with Rand Paul. How 'bout Ted Cruz.

        I'm serious about these crazies. Any competent shrink could open the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders in the middle and alternate working both directions to label those people.

        Most of the time it seems unlikely to me that "evil" exists in forms that don't involve moral judgment. But psychoses do exist and can be attributed.

        My failing is labeling psychotics that were not interviewed in person. Distance analysis is not a good idea. But . . . by not specifying a disorder . . . ?

        We're all just working for Pharoah.

        by whl on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 10:40:39 AM PDT

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        •  I am one of those "competent shrinks" and you (0+ / 0-)

          are dead wrong if you think that is psychosis of any brand.

          "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats ..." - Kenneth Grahame -

          by RonK on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 11:47:29 AM PDT

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          •  A competent shrink who diagnoses "evil." (0+ / 0-)

            Wowser, yowser.

            Just where does that psychosis fall in the spectrum?

            I'll maintain and promote my view that a great many of the Republican politicians are very seriously mentally ill and apologize, slightly, for labeling people I don't actually know.

            We're all just working for Pharoah.

            by whl on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 02:55:48 PM PDT

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  •  if anything or anyone deserves to be repealed, (4+ / 0-)
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    shoeless, RonK, Aunt Pat, jyssco

    it's REPUBLICANS! Vote em all out in 2014. They are so far out of touch with mainstream America!!

  •  I'm convinced that it is... (2+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, Aunt Pat

    ...a simple Pavlonian response.

    So endith the trick.

    by itsjim on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:02:57 AM PDT

    •  Yes and no. They are also INCOMPETENT. (0+ / 0-)

      Seriously, they are full of fears and those fears are based on anecdotal information.

      None of these clowns know anything or understands anything about the economy as a whole. They understand microeconomics a bit, how to run a business, how to make a profit. But that's about it. Macroeconomics ?  They don't have a clue.

  •  Republican leaders know they never can and never (3+ / 0-)
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    mwh191, Aunt Pat, jyssco

    will repeal the law.  They know they will never come up with an alternative, because its unworkability would become a matter of public knowledge.  But appeals to repeal bring foam to the mouths of the base, people they need to keep stoked with blind rage.

  •  Isn't the health insurance corporations (1+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat

    that should finally give it up. I was under the impression that today's GOP is merely a service for corporate interests.

    •  Nah - insurance companies will be fine with it. (2+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat, OregonWetDog

      It's usefulness is in feeding red meat to the GOP base.  Once that does not work any more, the GOP will return to their more sneaky ways to destroy the ACA and the rest of the safety net that protects the "takers"

      “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

      by ahumbleopinion on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:16:14 AM PDT

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  •  Democrats really should (1+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat

    push the Republicans for their alternative to Obamacare.  What is more reasonable than to ask Republicans to explain their plan if they feel Obamacare should be repealed?

  •  This feels a bit like victory (3+ / 0-)

    It will feel more like it if we manage to maintain control of the US Senate, take back some governor's mansions and win a few House seats in November 2014.

    The difference here is that this is a substantive policy victory in which real results are being produced.

    With the success of the first enrollment period and the new GOP budget of cuts to major entitlement programs, I think the GOP just lost the ability to shape the message of 2014.  They will have to rely on gerrymandering and Obama-hate to win elections.

    The Democrats need to use the initial success of Obamacare to micro target voters to come out and vote for them in November.  I think this can happen in Senate races and Governor's races.  It is not clear to me that it would have a big impact on gerrymandered House districts, but it might if we have an idea of the number of unlikely voters in these districts that could be targeted.

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    by khyber900 on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:08:02 AM PDT

  •  It's time to bill the RNC for these shenanigans. (2+ / 0-)
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    estreya, OregonWetDog

    Literally - send 'em a bill.

    Put a petition on the WH site for the Treasury to calculate the cost of all these votes and have the DoJ & Treasury fine them for willfully, maliciously wasting taxpayer dollars.

    The fine should equal the cost of the votes plus an equal amount for damages and restitution.

    Fuck'em where it hurts - their funding.

  •  a dog can really only bark, or maybe howl... (1+ / 0-)
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    these fellows really don't have any other vocabulary to fall back on

  •  Kinda grim when the hole (1+ / 0-)
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    they've been digging for themselves is so deep, there's no alternative but to keep digging.

    They don't make ladders that long.

  •  At least for now we can see where Americans stand (2+ / 0-)
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    RonK, a2nite

    with respect to ACA...long lines, impressive last minute

    enrollment and the opinion polls seem to be improving.

    The Democrats need to capitalize on that energy and get

    these folks to the polls for the midterms...

     Red states should be part of the equation.

    Everything that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by destiny1 on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:27:34 AM PDT

  •  Right wing crazy's (0+ / 0-)

    They keep wasting "our" the party of so called conservatism.  They have accomplished nothing in the years since the "tea party invasion". They collect an exorbitant salary for not even working a full week and people on the right think they are accomplishing something.  Being scammed.  Their own people are dooming them. What will it take to wake these people up to reality.  How about making it illegal for those 65 and older not being able to rally against the ACA.  Seems as if those who are covered by Medicare are the majority of sign holders and costume dressers.  Kind of crazy.  Wish we could repeal the tea party and all the right wing takers.

  •  ACA (2+ / 0-)
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    One poster noted that the ACA is seen as an existential threat by republicans; this is exactly true.  But Obama himself and what he represents is an existential threat to the white base of the Republican Party.  McConnell knew this, knew that any success of a Black president would unmask the unspoken assumptions of republicans, that this country really is a white man's country, the county of the well fed, well bred, well read, and well wed.  This is why the day after Obama was elected in '08 a bunch of these influential republicans got together and decided to make sabotage of Obama the principle republican goal.  It's not policy differences.  If Obama succeeds, the chief defining, yet hidden, characteristic of the Republican Party is revealed for the lie it is--white racial superiority, no matter how it's masked.  The funny thing is I tell my republican friends that if Obama were a white republican, republicans would be celebrating the second coming of Ronald Reagan: the auto industry saved, the American economy hauled out of the pit of absolute disaster, steady job growth, a flourishing stock market, health care for millions of ordinary citizens, terrorism emasculated.  That's quite a record of achievement, unless you happen to be a Black president.

  •  How quickly they forgot their "replace" plan (1+ / 0-)
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    Remember the recent proposal from Senators Burr, Coburn, and Hatch? The American Healthcare Reform Act? The one the Repugs have been quick to avoid?

  •  Krugman nailed it again. (3+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, K S LaVida, IM

    And this is what Repukes ought to bE talking about - bragging about - because IT'S THEIR PLAN !!!

    I don’t really think one more repetition of the logic will convince many people, but here we go again. Suppose you want preexisting conditions covered. Then you have to impose community rating — insurers must offer the same policies to people regardless of medical history. But just doing that causes a death spiral, because people wait until they’re sick to buy insurance. So you also have to have a mandate, requiring healthy people to join the risk pool. And to make buying insurance possible for people with lower incomes, you have to have subsidies.

    And what you’ve just defined are the essentials of ObamaRomneyCare. It’s a three-legged stool that needs all three legs. If you want to cover preexisting conditions, you must have the mandate; if you want the mandate, you must have subsidies. If you think there’s some magic market-based solution that obviates the stuff conservatives don’t like while preserving the stuff they like, you’re deluding yourself.

    What this means in practice is that any notion that Republicans will go beyond trying to sabotage the law and come up with an alternative is fantasy. Again, Obamacare is the conservative alternative, and you can’t move further right without doing no reform at all.

    Instead of taking credit, the schmucks deny that it came out of their Heritage think tank and they try to make us all look stupid by denying it.  I would never vote for a party that tried to make me look stupid.

    What we need is a Democrat in the White House. ~ expatjourno

    by ezdidit on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:40:02 AM PDT

  •  I love the Republicans (1+ / 0-)
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    What better representatives could anyone have besides John and Mitch?

    Gotta respect them for sticking to their position on the ACA.

    Repeal it they repeat endlessly, and replace it with - let's see, I can't seem to find their plan for providing healthcare insurance to millions of uninsured Americans. There should be one somewhere. They've had the same amount of time as the Democrats to prepare a comprehensive plan.

    But they don't have a plan unless you consider reverting to the status quo ante, a plan. And of course continuing to badmouth the ACA, and call for its repeal on a regular basis. Could it be that they don't want all Americans to have affordable healthcare?

    My hope is that the Democrats take advantage of Republican opposition to the ACA in forthcoming elections at all levels as its membership continues to grow and it becomes ever more popular.

  •  McConnell is just saying (0+ / 0-)

    Don't let the riff raff make appointments to see my doctors as it might mean that I or someone in my important family will have to wait.

    "Portion of the adolescent prisoners in solitary on Rikers Island who have been diagnosed with a mental illness: 7/10." Tell someone.

    by RJDixon74135 on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 09:49:34 AM PDT

  •  These politicians are very stupid men. (0+ / 0-)

    They do not deserve the seats they hold.  Nor were Congressmen elected by a representative sample of the electorate.  What this amounts to is disenfranchisement.

    Sam Wang's NYT op-ed explains gerrymandering as an exceptionally-effective form of disenfranchisement:

        ...Gerrymandering is a major form of disenfranchisement. In the seven states where Republicans redrew the districts, 16.7 million votes were cast for Republicans and 16.4 million votes were cast for Democrats. This elected 73 Republicans and 34 Democrats. Given the average percentage of the vote it takes to elect representatives elsewhere in the country, that combination would normally require only 14.7 million Democratic votes. Or put another way, 1.7 million votes (16.4 minus 14.7) were effectively packed into Democratic districts and wasted.

        ...Democrats would have had to win the popular vote by 7 percentage points to take control of the House the way that districts are now (assuming that votes shifted by a similar percentage across all districts). That's an 8-point increase over what they would have had to do in 2010, and a margin that happens in only about one-third of Congressional elections.

    [ bookmarked for ed. ] In NC, where the two-party House vote was 51 percent Democratic, 49 percent Republican, the average simulated delegation was seven Democrats and six Republicans. The actual outcome? Four Democrats, nine Republicans — a split that occurred in less than 1 percent of simulations.
    President Obama won the state of Ohio by nearly two points in 2012, but 12 members of Ohio’s 16 member Congressional delegation are Republicans. In the nation as a whole, nearly 1.4 million more Americans voted for Democratic House candidates than Republicans.

    What we need is a Democrat in the White House. ~ expatjourno

    by ezdidit on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 10:16:51 AM PDT

  •  I already had a pre-existing condition and (0+ / 0-)

    just had surgery for something else.  Having hit my deductible on my exchange plan, abso-fricking-lutely everything is covered, no co-pay, no more deductible for the year.  You will pry this from my cold, dead hands, you sociopathic freaks.

    The thing about democracy, beloveds, is that it is not neat, orderly, or quiet. It requires a certain relish for confusion. Molly Ivins

    by MufsMom on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 10:24:14 AM PDT

  •  I guess no one remembers that one of (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    the issues in the 2008 Presidential campaign was health care for all.  It was debated and the public was for it.  

    Because the benefits were added slowly,  Republicans were able  to trash it through the years.  Now the benefits are in full force and they are backed into a corner.

    It's called ninth-dimensional chess, y'all.

    Read some history.  The Republicans called Social Security everything but the devil's posterior.  Also didn't work; guaranteed Democratic control.

  •  I really wonder (0+ / 0-)

    if they would be able to stand up and say this nonsense if it weren't for Fox News.  

    "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

    by Subterranean on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 11:04:15 AM PDT

  •  Exemption Request (0+ / 0-)

    Speaker Boehner, when you finally do manage to write a successful bill to repeal Obamacare, please put in a clause exempting my business from repeal.  My sole employee and I now have health insurance for the first time in our company's history.  We're quite happy with the monthly rates and deductibles, especially compared to what we were quoted several years ago.  So when you pass that repeal, please write in an exemption for my company.

  •  McConnell and Boehner are wasting their lives. (0+ / 0-)

    "The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." George Washington, 1796

    by djny10003 on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 02:51:30 PM PDT

  •  Hey, Johnny and Mitch, I have an idea. (0+ / 0-)

    Repeal Obamacare and replace it with something completely different -- Medicare for all!

    Oh, what, the right-wing-nut base that you've cultivated for thirty years with your knee-jerk anti-government propaganda won't go for that?  Oh, well, in that case, . . . STFU!

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