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From yesterday's Wall Street Journal, the Daily Kos flag guy makes an appearance as ... artwork for a Charles Koch op-ed:

Koch editorial at the Wall Street Journal, illustrated by Daily Kos flag guy clip art

Don't worry, the version of the logo they chose is publicly available stock artwork, so nobody's getting ripped off here. But it was a hilariously ironic image choice to include with such an absurd op-ed.

And now it looks like the Kochs are determined to spread their accidental joke as far and wide as possible:

Employees of one Koch Industries subsidiary found a copy of Charles Koch's defense of his "vision" for America in their inboxes Thursday morning, along with a message encouraging them to share the op-ed with anyone who "might benefit from hearing the truth" about the billionaire Koch brothers.

TPM obtained an email sent on behalf of Dave Robertson, Koch Industries' president and chief operating officer, addressed to all employees of Invista, a chemical company owned by the corporation, that contained the full text of Koch's op-ed and a link to the piece in the Wall Street Journal.

"Following is an op-ed by Charles Koch that is published in today's Wall Street Journal," the email read. "In it, Charles emphasizes the importance of a free society and responds to many of the outrageous attacks that have been made by some politicians and their media allies."

"Please feel free to share this with whomever you think might benefit from hearing the truth about our company, our culture and the Koch family," the email continued.

Well, I can't think of a better way to celebrate freedom, because nothing says freedom quite like having the guy who signs your paychecks tell you that you should feel "free" to share the political views of the guy who signs his paychecks because they are "the truth."

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  •  Exactly like some employers forced workers in 2012 (22+ / 0-)

    To back Romney or lose their jobs. So sickening

    "What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them." -- Pres. Obama (1/20/2009)

    by zizi on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:13:11 AM PDT

    •  no way would know (1+ / 0-)
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      catwho

      A company could have encouraged someone to vote for Romney but they have no way of knowing who they voted for so threatening to fire someone is absurd.

      •  It might be absurd but it didn't stop them from (1+ / 0-)
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        ahsken77

        doing it. Conservatives have always enjoyed the politic of fear mongering.

      •  I wouldn't be above saying I'd vote for Willard (1+ / 0-)
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        TofG

        and then go mark my ballot for Obama.

        So this West Virginian walks into a bar and says, "Fix me a Green River."

        by Omir the Storyteller on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:44:48 AM PDT

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      •  But they did (6+ / 0-)

        ...threaten them saying if Pres Obama won, they would la off workers. A mining executive in Ohio forced workers to attend a Romney campaign event on company time without pay. Where were you during that period? It was news right here Google it.

        "What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them." -- Pres. Obama (1/20/2009)

        by zizi on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:44:51 AM PDT

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        •  And 2012 was not the first time (0+ / 0-)

          they made this threat about layoffs. They started in 2008.   I worked for these jerks for several years.  They were typical corporate cutthroats, but they didn't totally lose it until they got infected with ODS (Obama Delusion Syndrome) starting in 2008.  When that happened, they made "1984" look like a rational democracy.  Can't tell you how many times I voiced amusement with and admiration for their satirical talents, only to discover, to my horror, that they were serious.  ODS destroys the brain.  It is the major medical scourge of the 21st century.  The Koch Bros. have the best education money can buy, but they really believe their own BS.  That is sad and pitiful.  

        •  kOCH (1+ / 0-)
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          The miners worked in  Virginia not Ohio. Robert Anderson threatened to fire them if they didn't show up to be a backdrop for Romney and then refused to pay them for the time they missed from work doing this. Anderson also made workers contribute to the Republican Party by means that would gotten a small mine owner sent to prison.

          IMPEACH THE 5 REPUBLICAN APPOINTED SUPREME COURT JUSTICES.THEIR POLITICS DECIDES WHAT IS CONSTITUTIONAL  NOT THE CONSTITUTION

          VOTE NOVEMBER 2014

      •  It depends on the definition of "backing." (1+ / 0-)
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        CatKinNY

        If "backing" includes wearing campaign buttons, putting bumper stickers on cars, staffing phone banks, attending campaign events, or making (essentially false) public statements in support of a candidate, activities can be monitored.  At the very least, the instruction from the employer could easily have a chilling effect on activities by employees for the opposition.

        Of course, the "right" has always had a peculiar definition of "freedom"; that being, essentially, the freedom to do whatever they want, even if that involves depriving others of their freedoms.  This form of selective anarchy is at the root of the "libertarian" philosophy.

        •  During one of our local elections awhile back... (0+ / 0-)

          ...I was with three or four people doing "visibility" (stand on a busy street-corner during rush hour waving our candidate's signs) right before Election Day. About half an hour after we got there, two young Latino men arrived with signs for the Republican, and took up a station on the corner a few feet away from one of our guys. They didn't seem too enthusiastic, just held their signs still, instead of waving 'em, waving at drivers who honked in support, etc. (as we were doing).

          After an hour or so, one of them came over to our guy, and rather diffidently, in heavily-accented english, asked how much longer we'd be there. He and his friend, it turns out, were warehouse workers for a local furniture store owned by a prominent Republican donor, and their boss had told them, upon hearing of our nearby sign-waving, to take two of the lawn signs from in front of the warehouse and go wave them near us "until they go away". They were worried that we'd be there longer than their scheduled work shift, and weren't sure they'd get paid for the overtime if they stayed late.

          Both actually preferred the Democrat in that election, though at least one wasn't a citizen and thus, of course, not a voter. One of our people told them they could file a grievance with the state if they didn't get paid for ALL the hours their boss asked them to work, even if it was something unrelated to their regular jobs, and that it would be illegal for him to make them "volunteer" for a political campaign on their own time...

          They were very friendly the rest of the afternoon, and left (with smiles and thumbs-up waves to us) when their regular work-shift would have ended. (We didn't stay much longer, as it was dark and starting to rain again.)

          A couple years later, I heard their company was being investigated for "wage theft"-type labor issues: not paying overtime rates for overtime hours, having workers doing "clean-up"-type labor after clocking out, etc. I hope it was the two guys we met who made the complaint...

        •  Still waiting (0+ / 0-)

          ....to hear what "freedom was lost" because of ACA..(other than the Insurance Industries greed lost)..How does anyone lose freedom because someone else was given the freedom to live without discrimination?
           Many claim, "they lost freedom" every time someone else is given their freedom after years of being discriminated against? What freedom was lost from of the ACA, anti racism, or because gays can finally marry, or because in a civil society we'd rather people not walk around carrying a gun, or because many of us don't buy into a religion of hatred racism and stupidity?.
          I've heard this drivel before..about "gays ruining their marriages"..etc..
          Or,  how people feel they have a religious right to deny others their basic freedom to have as many, or as few, children as they please...how is this taking away another's rights?
          Freedom is for everyone..It's not following someones elses religious fanaticism.
          Just as many Tea Party supporters have a right to believe whatever flawed thought they have is correct"..it still doesn't make their flawed thinking a fact..Nor does it mean everyone else has to buy into the Jesus craze, regardless of the facts most of them never read the book and follow it, if at all,  selectively.

      •  The point was (0+ / 0-)

        that they dared to even try it at all. The Koch's are about as much "pro freedom"...as MLK was anti race.
        The Koch's will do all they can to save themselves another billion w/Keystone pollution, and spend, NOT on bettering this country or a single person..They'll do it to pollute at will...and pave over every national park in this country if we allowed them to. To me, the Koch's are the terrorist within.

    •  Not the same (1+ / 0-)
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      olo

      Suggesting that employees read and "share" an editorial by the boss isn't at all in the same category as telling people that might lose their jobs for voting the "wrong way."  Comparing the two minimizes the seriousness of what happened in 2012.

      In fact, I'd encourage the employees to "share" that editorial as much as possible, so that the maximum number of people can read it and see for themselves how clueless and out of touch he is with the real world.

      Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

      by TexasTom on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:45:22 AM PDT

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      •  Both are forms of coercion (2+ / 0-)
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        "What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them." -- Pres. Obama (1/20/2009)

        by zizi on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:52:04 AM PDT

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        •  Hay! Let them all read the Kochatribe... (1+ / 0-)
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          Let them all read that neurotic Kochatribe and see for themselves what a self anointed Privileged Fuckstick $ir Charle$ is.

          Nuclear Reactor = Dirty Bomb

          by olo on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:37:48 PM PDT

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      •  Yes and no. (1+ / 0-)
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        On its surface, the suggestion that people "read and share" an editorial is not coercion. Example: I might send an email to my friends suggesting the same thing; DKos sends me emails daily doing the same.

        But on a deeper level, there IS an element of coercion involved in the case described in this diary, which cannot be eliminated from the analysis nor overlooked, because there is a POWER relationship involved here where one party has power over another.  The recognition of the sociological and psychological significance of such imbalances of power forms the basis for part of our Title VII law on sexual harassment: an "unwelcome" advance by an employer or supervisor may sexual harassment even if there is no explicit quid pro quo, no explicit threat of job loss, demotion, etc.

        The imbalance of power in the instance described in the diary has the same implications.  Might there be a penalty - even only an implied one - for failing or refusing to "read and share"?  Are supervisors taking notes on who "reads and shares" and who does not?  these things would be constitutive of coercion.

      •  You're right, but it takes the same kind of hubris (1+ / 0-)
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        I shudder now each time I think of Charles Koch and how I interviewed for a job with Koch Industries as I was nearing the finish of my MBA. They were one of the largest and best paying companies in the area.  But luckily before their offer came, I was hired by my first choice.

        Even THIS simple request to spread the propaganda for them would have been too much for my Democratic soul to have taken.

    •  Not the same logo. (0+ / 0-)

      That's an actual photograph of the air in Beijing, the prototype for the People's Republic of Amerikoch.

      Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.

      Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

      by dadadata on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:13:03 PM PDT

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    •  You read my mind. (0+ / 0-)

      Remember when that coal dude from Ohio FORCED his employees to give money to Mitt and show up at his rallies...or else.

      Or the threats from the resort dude in Florida who kept emphasizing that he was going to take it out on them if Romney lost.

      I'm sure I left a bunch out. But these scumbags stood out because they remind me of this scumbag.

  •  Free society like free art. The only thing a (2+ / 0-)
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    billionaire finds interesting. I don't think 'free society' means what he would have us think it means.

  •  how much have the Kock Brothers (4+ / 0-)
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    ...donated to marriage equality groups across the nation?

    you know...since they are so into freedom and individual liberty and stuff.

    "An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war." -Mark Twain

    by humanistique on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:14:33 AM PDT

  •  Is it a coincidence (0+ / 0-)

    that op-ed rhymes with drop dead? Certainly not in this case.

    I'm no philosopher, I am no poet, I'm just trying to help you out - Gomez (from the song Hamoa Beach)

    by jhecht on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:15:28 AM PDT

  •  Talk about big brother... (2+ / 0-)
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    The Koch's seem like they're always in other people's business.  How creepy.

    http://lazyactivismrules.wordpress.com/

    by LazyActivism on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:16:03 AM PDT

    •  Surprising (0+ / 0-)

      you'd think they'd want to stay under the radar and let others -- spokespeople, front groups -- do the talking for them.  The op-ed might show just how arrogant they've become.

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 04:50:59 PM PDT

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  •  And I feel free to call them the "Cock Brothers." (5+ / 0-)

    Dicks.

    Think about the baby Jesus. Up in that tower, letting His hair down so that the three wise men could climb up and spin the dreidle and see if there's six more weeks of winter. -- Will and Grace

    by Rikon Snow on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:16:50 AM PDT

  •  The Truthiness shall set you free (6+ / 0-)

    or reasonably priced

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:22:31 AM PDT

  •  First a Congressperson reads it on the floor... (8+ / 0-)

    Then it's spread to Koch employees...

    Tomorrow, they campaign to add it as one of the epistles in the New Testament.

    It's that "good"!

  •  Perhaps they have chips inplanted in their brains (2+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, live1

    (like 1st suggested in the movie The President's Analyst) so they can be constantly monitored:

  •  Compassion, not hatred, is what the Kochs (3+ / 0-)
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    catwho, TofG, TDDVandy

    deserve.  Would you look like them to have their money?  No?  Would you even look like Bill Gates, the non-Whipley-Snidelash of billionaires (unless like me you happen to HATE Microsoft), to have his money?  Of course not...
    Have the Kochs ever, in their pursuit of more ill-gotten gains, had as much as fun as the rest of us?  I don't think so.  Have they read as many books?  Had loving relationships with as many beautiful boys and girls?  No...so forgive them, they know not what they do.  

    Armed! I feel like a savage! Barbarella

    by richardvjohnson on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:28:14 AM PDT

  •  Is that "Cascade" I see in blurry print in the (1+ / 0-)
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    Shockwave

    group of products?  If it's the dishwasher soap, I can surely stop buying that.  And what is "Sparkle"?  Is "Zee" paper towels?

     

    Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

    by hawkseye on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:29:11 AM PDT

  •  They do the same (4+ / 0-)
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    Shockwave, TofG, TDDVandy, shoeless

    with their superpacs, they solicit donations from their employeees. They also send family christmas pics out to all employees too.

    There are no rules, only the illusion of rules.

    by Drewid on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:32:35 AM PDT

    •  Soliciting donations (1+ / 0-)
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      Drewid

      sounds more like coercion.  I wonder if it's legal..

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 04:53:21 PM PDT

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  •  voting while working on the Koch Plantation /nt (0+ / 0-)

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:34:06 AM PDT

  •  I'll bet they're monitoring their employees' - (5+ / 0-)
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    XR News Service, TofG, shoeless, DuzT, JrCrone

    - computers to make sure their drones actually click on the link and stay there long enough to read the entire piece. Those that don't will probably get a warning Email from company higher-ups that lack of enthusiasm for their Leader's pronouncements will be reflected in their next job review...

    You can't stop progress (or is that "profit"?)

    by Miscweant on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:35:21 AM PDT

  •  Kochs for freedom? Yippee (2+ / 0-)
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    TofG, shoeless

    They have undoubtedly just contributed a hundred million or so towards the cause of publically funded elections nationwide.  They are my heroes.    

  •  Well, let's see... (3+ / 0-)
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    XR News Service, TofG, DuzT

    knowing what I know of employee culture at many organizations, this bit of coercion is not going to inspire most employees to blink, scratch their heads, and say, "Gosh-sakes, I never thought of it that way before. I read this flyer they have posted in the lunch room, and it's like the scales have fallen from my eyes..."

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:37:32 AM PDT

  •  Collectivists? (4+ / 0-)
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    CPT Doom, shoeless, TofG, Hohenzollern

    That sounds like a more sophisticated version of "communists."  In any case, I don't see why Charles Koch's vision of America is any more important than, say, my vision of America.

    29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:37:52 AM PDT

  •  if i were Kos (3+ / 0-)
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    i would demand equal time. just my 2cents
    be fun  to get a non corp nut on the op ed-for a change!

  •  Yawn. Call me back when they say "you must" (0+ / 0-)

    and engage in some activity to verify the fact.

    I've gotten similar letters for everything from United fund to books from my bosses over the years.

    Who cares?

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:39:54 AM PDT

    •  United Way, that is. (0+ / 0-)

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:40:09 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah, in this case... (1+ / 0-)
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      dinotrac

      ...you and I are in agreement.

      Making a big deal out of this e-mail seems to be making a big deal out of nothing.

      Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

      by TexasTom on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:47:19 AM PDT

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    •  United Ways is a bit different than getting ... (0+ / 0-)

      something at your work related to your work, no?
      Also, just because you have been exposed to it, it doesn't make it right. In Germany (and I was there when this happened ... and yes due to their history) they banned the Scientology. It came to their attention that many CEOs and higher ups in the companies were "recommending" the Dianetics of whatever their book is called to their employees. The problem is because of the top bottom hierarchy at work place, that amounts to coercion. They put an immediate stop to it. Good for them.

      •  What related to your work? The boss's op ed? (0+ / 0-)

        It is not coercion to encourage your employees to read the op-ed you wrote.  I used to work for EDS when Ross Perot ran the joint, and I can tell you we were always getting something.  Didn't make any difference on the job.

        By the way, there are companies that take United Way very seriously, putting lots of pressure on managers to get 100% signups.  What fun to tell the boss you work for directly -- not some shadowy figure at the top of the food chain -- that you don't give to United Way.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:18:09 PM PDT

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  •  Can we turn this to our advantage? (1+ / 0-)
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    TofG

    Like, publishing a copy of the DK masthead, followed by a copy of the op-ed with the flag-guy prominently displayed, and either leave the readers to connect the out-of-context dots or just come right out and ask, "Are the Koch Brothes secret liberals?" (Hey, we're just asking)

    Probably not, but we liberals have had stuff like that done to us often enough that it would be nice to turn the tables on them for once.

    So this West Virginian walks into a bar and says, "Fix me a Green River."

    by Omir the Storyteller on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:43:49 AM PDT

  •  Koch's Kansas Carpetbaggers Invade Your State (2+ / 0-)
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    shoeless, TofG

    ... with legislation from ALEC and ads by Americans For Prosperity.

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:45:01 AM PDT

  •  They are starting to seem quite (3+ / 0-)
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    desperate.

    I enjoy watching them begin to reek of unease.

  •  one word defines the Koch bros.: GREED. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Buying Koch products is donating to... (3+ / 0-)
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    annieli, TofG, JrCrone

    ...the John Birch society co-founded by their father.

    Still, analyzing what John Birch himself said I learned this;

    I want of government only protection against the violence and injustices of evil or selfish men.
    The Kochs have not resorted to violence but they promote all sorts of injustices ranging from voting restriction laws to preventing people to get healthcare insurance under Obamacare. And they certainly are selfish.  Perhaps they should go back to their roots.

    Or perhaps they should move to Turkestan;

    Where can I find this world? Would its anachronism doom it to ridicule or loneliness? Is there yet a place for such simple ways in my own America or must I seek a vale in [Chinese] Turkestan where peaceful flocks still graze the quiet hills?

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:47:21 AM PDT

  •  Are the employees going to get a pop quiz (1+ / 0-)
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    TofG

    to make sure they read the op-ed?

    I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them. Adlai E. Stevenson

    by shoeless on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:47:32 AM PDT

  •   Hmm. (0+ / 0-)
    ...along with a message encouraging them to share the op-ed with anyone who "might benefit from hearing the truth" about the billionaire Koch brothers.
    It has about the same level of value as Chris Christie's internal investigation of bridgegate.

    I'm not always political, but when I am I vote Democratic. Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:51:21 AM PDT

  •  A good Squire knows who butters the toast. (1+ / 0-)
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    Hohenzollern

    No doubt there are many of Roberston's family members highly dependent on Koch money.

    ..And I bet every one of them embraces that same culture of Feudal Peonage.

    -7.75,-6.41 Time keeps on ticking, ticking, ticking...

    by owlbear1 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:52:32 AM PDT

  •  Charles Koch has begun to have theophanies. (3+ / 0-)

    Just the other day the image of Jesus appeared on the surface of an oil spill.

    Genesis: 1:26
    And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth...

    ...in other words, you're free to f^^k up the joint.


    The next house I build will be a military industrial complex. It seems to be the only structure that is impervious to anything man, or nature, can throw at it.

    by glb3 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:59:51 AM PDT

  •  Please feel free to share zis kommunikation (0+ / 0-)

    und do not conzern yourselves zat zis freedom of kommunikation vill be noted in your papers.

    Vat? Nein nein. You haf no paperz. But feel the freedom to share zis freedom of speech defense of our beloved leader's freedom of speech. Ja. Freedom.

    Darling, you didn't use canned salmon, did you?

    by JrCrone on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:19:15 PM PDT

    •  Although I get your meaning (and it's quite (0+ / 0-)

      clever) I would like to give a different perspective of the whole German fascism era. You see, Germans are too smart! They were just ahead of their time ... by about 40 years or so. The idea of a one-world government (meaning a few rich powerful) governing the world was picked up by the Trilateral Commission in 70s, came to pass and it's happening as we speak. Adolf's mistake was that he didn't operate secretly in hidden places but told people honestly what he was doing. Of course he derailed himself by targeting minorities and not to mention killing millions of Jewish people. Luckily he was stopped. Who is going to stop the new world order actors?

  •  I dunno... (0+ / 0-)

    I dunno, that stock art looks an awful lot like the DKos logo. An AWFUL lot.

  •  What's all that Koch crap about liberty? (0+ / 0-)

    The clown equated liberty with democracy but his idea of liberty undermines democracy. His idea of liberty is an Aristocracy.

    "There are many truths of which the full meaning cannot be realized until personal experience has brought it home." John Stuart Mill

    by kuvasz on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:06:05 PM PDT

  •  Nice Post (0+ / 0-)

    I wrote a takedown of the Op-Ed, if you're interested.

    Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Zappa

    by ThisIsProgress on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 02:41:23 PM PDT

  •  Rickeagle be lurvin this.... (0+ / 0-)
  •  It love me,you love me (0+ / 0-)

    Typical KOKE crapola.

  •  Not much changes in the struggle between labor and (0+ / 0-)

    The upper class really has only one story they can tell to justify their ideas so they have repeat it.

    I've  heard the same argument put in different ways.  The workplace is an example. Sometimes it's informing the employee how tough it is to make a profit and keep costs down when a union is trying to organize. Sometimes its the defense of an ideology which enforces and oversees unfair labor practices as its way of doing business.

    In societies built on the model the U.S. has chosen there will always be a struggle between labor and capital.  It's like a virus that won't go away.  Sometimes it can be held in check. But it never goes away.

    "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness," Allen Ginsberg

    by Hermenutic on Sat Apr 05, 2014 at 08:29:22 AM PDT

  •  Charles Koch's defense (0+ / 0-)

    Charles emphasizes the importance of a free society as long it serve him well.

  •  Oh for christ's sake! (0+ / 0-)

    I recently saw a letter to the editor from Charles Koch, in praise of what a great guy David Koch supposedly is, and what a fine job he's doing. In Fortune Magazine. As if self-proclaiming their greatness can change the reality of their venality. The Kochs still appear to be firmly in the grip of megalomania, fueled by an ever-worsening money addiction. In their narcissistic world, the little people feel envy when gazing on the might Kochs. In reality, the normal people experience a sense of revulsion and shocked pity. Like watching someone incessantly putting money into a slot machine, playing endless games of Monopoly, and hoarding every piece of paper that enters the house.  Gambling, greed, gluttony, addiction, and deservedly low self-esteem. Normal people don't feel the need to have newspapers advertise their glowing self-assessments.

  •  Koch's freedom (0+ / 0-)

    Koch wants freedom from:

    1. dull care--concern for others not in his class
    2. taxes
    3. regulation
    4. democracy
    5. criticism
    6. climate change
    7. overhead
    8. shareholders
    9. rules/laws
    10. fill-in the blank____

    He's living in the wrong country. He should buy an island and move there and start his own colony, so that he can be free to be the king of his world.

  •  Koch's free society... (0+ / 0-)

    involves buying it and then enacting laws that benefits the 1%, which is essentially themselves and not their workers. Ah, yes, free at last!

  •  Corrupt US Supreme Court Justices (0+ / 0-)

    Most of us know that the Koch brothers are liars and they are trying to give us the best government money can buy with the help of the US Supreme Court. When ignorant people vote against their own personal and financial interest, like most Southern Whites do, how do you get them to realize what is happening to them? The Koch Brothers are responsible for the this corrupt US Supreme Court that we have now. Just think what is going to happen if another Republican is appointed to the US Supreme Court with these already corrupt Republican justices. America will be doomed and you can say, and be accurate, that this corrupt US Supreme Court is responsible.

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