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Despite an decent record on progressive issues, this has got to be the most tone-deaf political statement to come out of a Democratic politician since Joe Lieberman jumped ship. Since he is retiring, it is no skin off his nose to say something imbecilic like this, but he sure as hell is not helping the Dems keep this seat.

Congressman: We’re underpaid!MSNBC

Virginia Democratic Rep. James Moran thinks members of Congress aren’t getting paid enough.

Moran and his colleagues make $174,000 a year, but he says that’s not enough money to live comfortably in the nation’s capital.

“Our pay has been frozen for three years and we’re planning on freezing it a fourth year. … A lot of members can’t even afford to live decently in Washington,” Moran told CQ Roll Call.

Moran is looking to do something about it. He plans to introduce an amendment to raise members’ salary to an unspecified figure, according to the report. He’s not optimistic the bill will go anywhere – “this is wholly quixotic,” he told the paper – but he hopes it will highlight what he sees as a hardship for elected officials.

Moran isn’t the first to complain about congressional pay. In 2011, Wisconsin Republican Rep. Sean Duffy was criticized for complaining about his salary to an underemployed construction worker.

“I struggle to meet my bills right now,” Duffy said, commenting that he drives a used minivan and struggles to pay his bills and mortgage.

Seriously? You make more than three times the national median salary and you whine about being "underpaid". You have your every whim catered to by a platoon of paid (by the taxpayer) and unpaid staff and you are "underpaid"? You have a better healthcare plan (which footed the bill for your daughter's chemo) than the majority of Americans and you are "underpaid"?

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  •  Try the burbs, asshole! (3+ / 0-)
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    Calvino Partigiani, Witgren, JML9999

    Wasn't there another one of those tone deaf candidates in the last election who got in trouble with the same type of complaint.

    Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

    by J Edward on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 10:39:17 AM PDT

  •  A clear call to vote this moran out of office (3+ / 0-)

    Take a hike, buddy.  Remember austerity?  Remember the sequester?  Remember the fiscal cliff and the nay vote on unemployment insurance and veteran's benefits?  

    A vote to cut the salaries of congress.  I vote YES.

  •  What? (4+ / 0-)

    Astonishingly honest expression of his TRUE self, I guess

    A lot of members can’t even afford to live decently in Washington
    No thought for the millions of citizens who have suffered well over the last 6 -7 years over the failing economy that has largely been pressed upon us by the lack of outcry by the very elected ones who are supposed to take care of the citizens business in lawmaking?

    No outcry for us, for the suffering and need and illness but for another entitled valued?

    What for those who work in Washington DC and live there? I wonder how they can live decently..

    What a shameful example of a so called public servant and representative of his people with power to affect the whole of the US citizenry...

    Let the light shine on all that hides within the depths of power and greed..

  •  I am a Federal employee (10+ / 0-)

    I don't make near $175,000 per year. Not even half that. My pay has been frozen for three years also. We did get a whopping 1% raise this year. woo-hoo.

    Yes, I understand that members of Congress need to maintain two residences: One in DC and one at home. But most of them are coming from places with a far lower cost of living. They live less than half the year here. They don't need  a grand residence. All they really need is a one-bedroom or a studio apartment. You don't need to live off Capital Hill. We have the Metro that will take you from the suburbs to downtown in about 40 minutes tops. Heck, Biden used to commute from Delaware. DELAWARE!!! And yet these are the same people who begrudge the working poor an additional $40 a month in food stamps. Nope, no sympathy at all.

    "That being said, I do agree I am going to hell. But for other reasons. Mostly boring tax stuff ' Amy Pohler

    by Annie B on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 10:46:55 AM PDT

  •  and another thing... (1+ / 0-)
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    One Pissed Off Liberal

    (pardon me, but I have to say this)
    During R.Money's campaign, my free floating fantasy was:

    persuade Mr. Money to come live with me for 6 months or so.  Sleep on the camp bed, brush his teeth in my little sink, prepare simple, yet nourishing, food in the tiny kitchen.  Walk in my shoes for a while to bring this a.hole into reality for the first time in his friggin life.  

    These guys.  These guys.  They need a lesson.

  •  Get a barin Moran nt (2+ / 0-)
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    Calvino Partigiani, terrybuck

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 10:53:11 AM PDT

  •  Why doesn't he quit & get a real job or STFU? (0+ / 0-)

    GOP = assho!e

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 10:58:17 AM PDT

  •  Not to mention (1+ / 0-)
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    A lot of travel and miscellaneous expenses paid for on the taxpayer dollar or by their re-election campaign funds, which certainly aren't coming out of the candidate's pocket.

    And a future after they leave office with a think tank or lobbying firm.

  •  25,000 = (4+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, skohayes, terrybuck, MKinTN

    Amount in $$ measuring poverty line for family of 4 in DC.

    110,000 = Number of DC residents living in poverty.

    1 = Ranking of James Moran for most assholish statement of the day.

    "Trust me... I've been right before." ~ Tea party patriot

    by Calvino Partigiani on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:04:42 AM PDT

  •  Jim Moran's seat is safe for team blue (2+ / 0-)
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    Joieau, sturunner

    This isn't the first time that he has said something stupid before.   Good thing he is retiring and that he is in a really blue seat, it takes in almost all of Arlington and Alexandria which is safely blue.  

    I can't force you to do anything, I can just make you regret it!

    by restondem on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:11:11 AM PDT

    •  Isn't his district (0+ / 0-)

      And where I assume he has his residence close enough for him to commute daily?  Additionally, don't members of Congress also get lulu's in addition to their salary?  I know in NY our Legislature does have this when they're in session.  

      Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011) Voting is a louder voice than a bullhorn but sometimes you need that bullhorn to retain your vote.

      by Rosalie907 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:50:09 AM PDT

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    •  Which means (0+ / 0-)

      he doesn't even have to maintain two residences. Maybe he should get a real job...

      There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. - Will Rogers

      by Joieau on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:41:27 PM PDT

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  •  wait - I thought that the prestige of their title (4+ / 0-)

    was enough to make up for crappy pay.

    My mistake - that's only true in fast food and retail.

    I guess there is not really much prestige in "congressman", at least compared to "BK store day manager"

  •  I actually agree (1+ / 0-)
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    IF they would actually work for the people. In theory, they should be paid a lot of money for representing the people and doing very important work.  Most of them have to have two residences and do a lot of traveling. These things cost money. IF they were doing their jobs, they should be well paid, beyond what they are. Arguably, higher pay would help limit the motive to engage in corrupt activities. But they way they have been performing, they don't deserve it.

    •  I'd rather that teachers, who do "very important (1+ / 0-)
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      Dr Swig Mcjigger

      work" and serve the people in a very difficult and demanding job get paid more, not congress critters.

      "Trust me... I've been right before." ~ Tea party patriot

      by Calvino Partigiani on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:27:17 AM PDT

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      •  of course (1+ / 0-)
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        Calvino Partigiani

        I would like to see any number of professions paid more.  But Congress is a very important job and what they do impacts us all. Most of these people could  make more money doing something else. So in theory, increased wages would attract more qualified people. They way they, and in particular the House majority, have been behaving doesn't warrant an increase based upon performance, but I am one who believes that public officials should be paid well for what is a truly important job. They need to earn this raise, though, IMHO.

  •  Apparently the concept of public service (0+ / 0-)

    is lost on this imbecile. Plus he'll probably end up raking in a 7 figure salary as a lobbyist.

    I'm no philosopher, I am no poet, I'm just trying to help you out - Gomez (from the song Hamoa Beach)

    by jhecht on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:13:44 AM PDT

  •  Nothing wrong with paying our congressmen well. (0+ / 0-)

    If we don't pay them relatively well, it only increases the incentive to use their offices for personal enrichment. If were to cut their pay to the levels that most of us grunts earn, most of them would bolt for the private sector, where they could earn much more. Then their replacements would likely turn out to be less talented, less experienced, more venal & more corrupt.

    It's similar to the situation with police in many developing countries, like Egypt or Nicaragua. When governments can't afford to pay their police a living wage, those police predictably turn to abusing their power & shaking down citizens & travelers alike for cash.

    That said, what Rep. Moran said was certainly tone-deaf & inarticulate. But it wasn't untrue. Washington is a relatively expensive place to live, especially for those members who must maintain a residence in their home district & another in Washington.

    •  Well there's nothing wrong with paying, say, (0+ / 0-)

      nurses or teachers well.  Why should we offer to pay Congressman more when they already are paid so much more than those professions?

      "Trust me... I've been right before." ~ Tea party patriot

      by Calvino Partigiani on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:32:13 AM PDT

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    •  Well... (0+ / 0-)
      If we don't pay them relatively well, it only increases the incentive to use their offices for personal enrichment.
      Do you mean more than they do now? Because you would have a hard time finding any congressman who doesn't walk into a six-seven figure job after they leave office.  Plus, they manage to enrich themselves and their families quite a bit while in office.
  •  The House schedule (0+ / 0-)

    published earlier this year has the House in session a total of 113 days- that's $1500 a day.
    He can't find a nice apartment and share it with one or two other congressmen in the few days they're in session?
    Maybe they should live within their means like the rest of us do.

    Your beliefs don't make you a better person. Your behavior does.

    by skohayes on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:22:26 AM PDT

  •  A Modest Proposal: (2+ / 0-)
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    J Orygun, plan9pub

    Single occupancy dormitories provided at government expense, and no tax deduction for any privately incurred living expenses in the D.C. area.

    Our government is not yet small enough to drown in a bathtub. That doesn't mean it can't be waterboarded.

    by furrfu on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:43:19 AM PDT

    •  My though exactly (1+ / 0-)
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      The government owns a LOT of buildings in DC, surely they can be converted to 1, 2 and 3 bedroom apartments for single reps, married and married with children?

      I'll even throw in a free bus pass.

      •  No spouses, no children. (0+ / 0-)

        They're there to do a job, and theoretically they still live in their district/state.

        Our government is not yet small enough to drown in a bathtub. That doesn't mean it can't be waterboarded.

        by furrfu on Sat Apr 05, 2014 at 04:14:58 AM PDT

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  •  He can always resign his position to a better... (0+ / 0-)

    Democrat that cares about ethical legislation for "we, the people", and not about getting rich in DC, and then move on to a lobbyist position that pays more.....

    After all, that's the "DC Way".....  Good Lord...  Anybody with half an ambitious little greedy brain in that town knows that.

    “My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there." - Rumi

    by LamontCranston on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:24:10 PM PDT

  •  He is correct, of course (0+ / 0-)

    Requiring that only multi millionaires can afford to be our representatives gives us precisely the representation we have.  Regardless of our feelings about the work they have done, consider what the value of the responsibilities we burden them with actually is worth in view of the market place.  Were they CEOs what might they receive for example?  The notion that public service whether elective or otherwise shouldn't be paid for is nonsensical as well as part and parcel of the arguments against teachers and similar public servants.

    •  The solution if public financing (0+ / 0-)

      of campaigns and STRICT bribery laws.

      Trouble is, the SCOTUS scuttled that idea.

      Seriously, we should pay these guys even more money to do nothing but obstruct government at every turn? Perhaps on par with overcompensated CEOs?

      •  Public financing and free air time (0+ / 0-)

        would help greatly.  The problem with bribery laws in an era of unlimited funding is vagueness/difficulty of proof.  

        Do you really think that the Democratic Moran was an obstructionist?  Regardless, if only the wealthy can serve, then they alone can be elected.  

  •  underpaid (0+ / 0-)

    I take it that clowns are on$176,000?

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