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I just saw this tweeted out and after reading it I'm incensed, but strangely slightly hopeful too. Is that possible?

MAGAZINE Why Can't Andrew Cuomo and New York Democrats Play Nice?

The title makes it seem like there's an equivalency, but it's misleading (how many times are headlines cleverly manipulated to convey something different than the premise of the actual article?) .

What this piece in the National Journal does is lay out a pretty good litany that, as anyone who's been paying attention should know, Andrew Cuomo is a complete corporatist disaster.

In fact, I would say his record and stance on things is not much more than a continuation of another recent New York politician: the previous, infamous Protectorate of the Plutocrats/architect of the Khmer Rogue-style military invasion (sans the murder) and vicious wipeout of the world's favorite populist protest movement Occupy Wall St, Mayor Mike Bloomberg, who actually managed to weasel himself into a third term (which increased the billionaire's personal wealth even more, while at the same time decimating the entire city by turning it into a pandemic of eyesores, with gleaming new banks on practically every corner of our neighborhoods, an assault of corporate franchises blowing out small businesses and the more obvious harrowing reminder of the Depression we're in as seen by the glut of unleased storefronts.

Both preen around as social reformists, but only as long as they can hand the place over to the their plutocrat masters (or in Mike's case, his friends and cohorts). Bloomberg has gutted NYC into a playground for the wealthy. Cuomo is keeping the same path in place. Being a social Democrat isn't enough to counterbalance being a corporate Democrat.

If we can't even get a .5% raise on the wealthiest's taxes to pay for pre-K (why are we always begging for crumbs?) then how in the hell are we ever to expect getting real progressive change, starting with Healthcare for All and free higher education? NYC once had such an education program in the 1970's. Included in their "vision" of education is the turning over of school keys to more of their crony capitalist buddies to be run like businesses.

There's an ever-present populist rage coursing through the conversations of most everybody in NYC (including the upper and upper middle class in NYC), but this disconnected Friend of the 1% plays deaf, dumb and blind. Put to a poll, overwhelming majorities would be in favor of levying massive taxes on the super wealthy, who continue to flout their gov't ransacked ransom money by buying up all the property and pricing all of us out our city. They'd also come out in huge numbers on the side of hitting Wall St with a way long overdue massive taxation of all financial transactions (especially given the latest scam of the lightning-fast computer-generated trading favored now). He apparently thinks otherwise, or more likely doesn't want to know when there's endless boatloads of dollars coming in and favors to repay for it.

On the ballot last November were two things I'll never forget: a decision to turn over a state land preserve to a mineral company, and the other to authorize casino gambling in NYC. Just what we need in NY, right? The city's being plundered left and right, hollowed by greedy interests, the social tapestry shredded, hospitals, arts and culture and affordable housing thrown to the curb, boutique shopping, high-end designer hotels and high-rise luxury condo living installed everywhere instead - and the best Cuomo can muster is we ought to bring in casinos to raise money, instead of taxing the wealthy? What a real schmuck this guy is.    

Like Bloomberg, who remained almost comically out of touch with the 99% while hiding behind his "own private army" in the form of the Stop & Frisk/free license to beat & imprison protesters & journalists NYPD, Cuomo's pals (masters) include a couple of the most villainous 1%ers. Namely the Home Depot thug who compared the Pope's declaration against greed, corporatism and cronyism to be on par with Nazism, and the spoiled brat brothers of daddy's money fame Koch Bros:

Several Democrats who spoke privately to National Journal lamented that Cuomo accepted $87,000 in campaign contributions from David Koch and his wife during the 2010 cycle—more than double the $34,000 that Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker took. Cuomo has also accepted donations from John Catsimatidis, de Blasio's Republican opponent. And he earned praise and money from Home Depot cofounder Ken Langone, a major GOP donor who started the group Republicans for Cuomo. (Langone recently caught flak for comparing progressives to Nazis.)
And, does it get anymore insidious than this, taking money away from defrauded homeowners to fill the State's coffers?
Then there's the simmering antipathy between Cuomo and the man who took his old job, Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. The two men have never been allies, but things have gotten more acrimonious as they fight over the $613 million that Schneiderman extracted from JPMorgan Chase in a mortgage-securities settlement. Schneiderman wanted to use the money to prevent foreclosures, while Cuomo saw the AG's move to direct the cash as a power grab, and insisted the money be put in the state's general fund.
Everyday I wake up and there's not at least a general strike, a massive boycott, real civil disobedience in this city, this state, the world - I'm amazed.

We've got to hit the books, people. We have a proud history of dissent, populism, radical reformers, revolutionists, and activism. Well, you wouldn't know if you got your history from your high school social studies class. No, you need to be truly educated in order to do your civic duty, and that means reading and knowing your history, not watching tv. I graduated college, but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't mean a thing. I hardly learned a thing through my mostly rote curriculum and tired teachers (there were a few professors/teachers who challenged the status quo and were inspiring but the majority were overburdened disciplinarians).

Are we really gaining the wisdom necessary to navigate a top heavy system of consumerism, unfettered capitalism and delusional self-interest? Are we honoring all those who sacrificed so much blood, sweat and tears for us? Some of our great philosophers, authors and politicians never even got through a formal education. To wit, our poet laureate and one of the greatest Presidents, Mark Twain and Abraham Lincoln. The list goes on and on.

The air needs to be taken out of the status balloon, in order to make way for those speaking truth to power, the whistleblower, the intrepid journalist, the tireless activist, the honest and genuine working man and woman - the stories that aren't getting told. I'm tired of all the vapid, empty heads, sanctioned by our institutions and given vaunted places on tv, radio and newspapers, given a free pass to muddle the conversation with propaganda and corporate pr.

It's time for many of us here, to start speaking up and speaking out, to the best of our ability, in ways seemingly small and big, to anyone in our amidst, at our jobs, on street corners, on the subways, at the ballgame, at the backyard bbq. Don't be surprised to find that simmering populist rage in most everyone you encounter, to a person! Encourage people to be able to discern propaganda from truth, to listen to their better intuition when contemplating what bodes best for society, to take the long view that only comes with a familiarity and grasp of history. As George Carlin said about about the prevalence of American consumer culture, "garbage in, garbage out."

History when it comes down to it is just the telling of stories. And the wisest ones would say it's shaped primarily by the many nameless and voiceless throughout the ages, more than it is by the leaders and statesmen. I believe that is so. There are so many rich, illustrative stories all around us. This is where empathy forms, which is the true agent of change, and the ostensible reason for politics. We need to collect them, share with the world and recognize therein is where our true power lies.

My apologies to the cynics, because I can be that most of the time. Today stark injustice and depravity have instead riled up the deep reservoirs of my idealism.

New York State governor Andrew Cuomo is a very high ranking Democrat - when will the charade stop? The nightmare in which our democracy has been hijacked and replaced by an auction to the highest bidder must be ended.

How much more will it take?

Originally posted to thirty three and a third on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 10:26 AM PDT.

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  •  Ditto (23+ / 0-)
    Everyday I wake up and there's not at least a general strike, a massive boycott, real civil disobedience in this city, this state, the world - I'm amazed.

    "The light which puts out our sight is darkness to us." Thoreau

    by NancyWH on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 10:39:30 AM PDT

  •  Remember to separate your tags with commas. (15+ / 0-)

    I fixed 'em for you. Here's good article about Cuomo, Wall St. and charter schools in NYC ☛ commondreams.org

    The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

    by Azazello on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 10:45:27 AM PDT

  •  Many Democrats are the new "Rockefeller (24+ / 0-)

    Republicans": socially liberal, and in bed with business.

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 10:45:43 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for Compiling this Information (11+ / 0-)

    and taking the time to write this diary.  I haven't been a fan of Cuomo's for the last few years, but the information in this diary solidifies my disdain for this DNIC.

  •  Condensed version of your fine diary (21+ / 0-)

    Cuomo sucks.

    "When dealing with terrorism, civil and human rights are not applicable." Egyptian military spokesman.

    by Paleo on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:16:01 PM PDT

  •  There is a distinction between NYC and NYS (4+ / 0-)

    The State wanted pre-K for all and not just NYC.  All children should have an equal chance. I think that is why the tax at the city level would not have worked. As for the mineral rights it was a good choice for the environment because the return was prime forest land for all to enjoy. And the casinos- not sure if they are ever going to be established as so many people outside of NYC want nothing to do with them.

    •  I have to agree (3+ / 0-)
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      As a migrant from NYC now living in way upstate, I'd say there's a different view up here where he is seen as a classic liberal (and not in a good way) largely because he pushed through the NY-SAFE gun control act only a month after Newtown. He also is attacked from the right for failing to welcome fracking, for supporting gay marriage, and for closing down unnecessary prisons.

      If my soldiers were to begin to think, not one would remain in the ranks. -Frederick the Great

      by Valatius on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 02:05:15 PM PDT

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      •  He supported preK only to kill deBlasios tax (15+ / 0-)

        Cuomo is puppet of businees interests,  $800k in pro charter contributions.

        NYS owed NYC at least $5 BIllion under CFE lawsuit.  Bloomberg let that slide, upping pressure on neighborhood schools.

        Cuomo only contributes a fraction -$300 million - and that can get taken away in the next lawsuit.

        Cuomo just didn't want to be seen nationally - or by his contributors - as someone who would allow a tax rise on Wall Steeet.

        And he wanted to steal deBlasios idea.

        He's slime.

        Yes. All of NYS should have pre K.  All USA in fact.  But he did it to nail deBlasio.  Don't be fooled by anything that guy says.

      •  That's only because (8+ / 0-)

        many of the wingnuts upstate -  like most in the GOP conservabubble - get distracted by "the shiny" of social issues and ignore economic issues.  If you read them a laundry list of Cuomos economic policies without attaching his name to it, they'd be singing the praises of person who implemented those policies as a solid conservative that they'd all stand behind with pride.

        I've seen it all my life, coming from a family of upstate bumpkins - many of whom are willfully ignorant to their very core.  They're always distracted by "the shiny", generally to their own detriment, and generally, they can't even comprehend how badly they're fucking themselves.

        "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

        by Darth Stateworker on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 07:24:22 PM PDT

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        •  Like Russian dolls (2+ / 0-)
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          You say that the "conservatives" upstate are wrong to disdain Cuomo as a liberal since his economic policies are more to their side. Next layer of the onion is that those "conservative" economic policies they like so much are killing them.

          “Republicans...think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people... And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.” Harry S. Truman

          by fenway49 on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 06:47:51 AM PDT

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        •  Because Democrats don't do that. (0+ / 0-)
          get distracted by "the shiny" of social issues and ignore economic issues.
          Wake up!!!

          New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

          by AlexDrew on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 12:59:06 PM PDT

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          •  Whatever you say troll. (0+ / 0-)

            Have a donut for doing so.

            "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

            by Darth Stateworker on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 08:52:34 PM PDT

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    •  Looks like they are going to build one on the (7+ / 0-)

      southern edge of Albany now. What a nightmare! On property owned by the late Polly Noonan, mistress of legendary Albany machine mayor Erastus Corning 2nd and grandmother of Sen. Kirstin Gillibrand. In reference to Cuomo topic, here's a line from article below: "Flaum is a Rochester shopping plaza developer who is on Gov. Andrew Cuomo's Republicans for Cuomo team."

      http://www.timesunion.com/...

    •  No, that was a very bad trade and set a worse (6+ / 0-)

      precedent for the future of protecting NY's environment.

      NYC is becoming like Washington DC, in that a bunch of upstate Republican legislators with outsized power -- and with help from our annoying Governor --- are constantly messing with OUR home rule for their own political purposes. Like trying to overturn our rent stabilization guidelines, that are the only real defense against a rich-people-only city, as a favor to their real estate lobbyist donors.

      If NYC wants to tax its own residents to lead the way for the rest of the state, while NOT WAITING for the state to get around to instituting the service, it's none of the Governor's business, frankly. He was angry because he considers those particular (rich) NYC people his alone to tax and fawn over.

      NYC children have been receiving far less in per capita in education funding than their upstate peers FOR YEARS. And Cuomo has done nothing about it, in flagrant disregard of the COURT ORDER instructing that unfairness to finally be ended.

      Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

      by Catskill Julie on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 06:38:00 PM PDT

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  •  Ah yes, our Governor 1% (12+ / 0-)

    Prince Andrew Machiavelli. I was a witness at Occupy Albany the night he called in his goons. They said he was dancing in the halls of the Capitol. I am salivating at the idea that some of his misdeeds may come to light as part of the Christie/PA investigation. He would look awfully purty in orange. I look forward to dancing on the grave of his ambitions!

  •  Cuomo has no problem playing nice with Christie (17+ / 0-)

    With all the games going on at the Port Authority, you have to wonder just why Cuomo has had so little to say - especially since NY and NJ have shared custody of the PA. Scott Raab's series on Christie at Esquire, has the occasional mention of Cuomo, and it's nothing good. They're soul-mates.  IE:

    The bad news is that Governor Chris Christie -- and his ever-complicit, sadly under-investigated Port Authority partner, Governor Andrew Cuomo -- are now proposing, at least in theory, that the Port Authority be split into two separate agencies. It won’t happen, and I doubt that either governor truly wants that; it would be tougher to loot and weaponize a legitimate state agency than a quasi-governmental Kremlin on the Hudson. And while there’s no evidence that either Christie or Cuomo actually gives a shit about the need for regional coordination of transportation based on a long-term regional vision -- which is precisely why the PA was created in 1921. Destroying the agency once and for all will make that vital mission impossible.

    The only real solution is for lawmakers in both states to jointly enact genuine reform that insulates the PA from Christie-Cuomo politics -- which would require first of all that the Port be led by folks with expertise in transportation systems and planning, not plunder and political jihad. And what finer time to dream of it than now, as David Samson slinks slowly into the sunset.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 02:35:38 PM PDT

    •  The only real solution (4+ / 0-)
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      The only real solution is for lawmakers in both states to jointly enact genuine reform that insulates the PA from Christie-Cuomo politics -- which would require first of all that the Port be led by folks with expertise in transportation systems and planning, not plunder and political jihad.
      Wow, what a radical concept! Putting apolitical people with expertise in the relevant field in charge! What will they think of next?
    •  Cuomo's principal difference from Christie (2+ / 0-)
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      is his weight. Save for that, they are the same.

      I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony

      by pajoly on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 08:57:10 AM PDT

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  •  this needs to be said much more often (20+ / 0-)

    "Being a social Democrat isn't enough to counterbalance being a corporate Democrat."

    Hillary is a corporate Democrat.
    Chuck Schumer is a corporate Democrat
    Kirsten Gillibrand is a corporate Democrat.  

    And of course Cuomo is.  Imagine taking money from the Koch brothers as a democrat?  He just doesn't care.

    As a new yorker who has spent a lot of time following local politics, it is disgusting how corrupt this whole "blue state" is from top to bottom.  New York is an embarrassment when it comes to politics.

    That said, everything Kos says about Cuomo applies to all of the people listed above.  They all play the same game.  But its safe to attack Cuomo because everyone with any sense knows he will never be president.  He's the whipping boy for the "more and better democrats" crowd who have no problem with Gillibrand, Schumer or Clinton.

    •  New York (6+ / 0-)

      tends to breed Corporate Dems.  It's largely because of Wall Streets presence methinks.  The influence I see that these people have up here in Albany is sickening - and not just the influence they wield with Cuomo.  Much of our supposedly "liberal" Assembly is also in their pocket.  

      And don't even get me started on the clown car that is the Senate Democrats....

      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

      by Darth Stateworker on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 07:15:53 PM PDT

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  •  Chicago - Democrats - Nope (11+ / 0-)

    Several years ago I was reading a piece that said Chicago is represented by Republicans; there is no Democratic Party.  I was a bit shocked as I always thought it was Democratic.  As I looked and watched in the past several years it is apparent they are neo-liberal Republicans.  

    Mayor Daly sold the parking meters in a privatization scheme that cost the public over $10 Billion dollars.  The public got $1.1 Billion; JP Morgan - $10 Billion.  

    Arne Duncan is not that into education.  He is into heavy privatization.  He would sell the entire education system to Pearson/ Kaplan if he could.  Testing (unproven) for profits (provent).

    And Rham Emanuel hates "liberals" - and loves charter schools.  Chicago is not a Democrat City.  It is GOP all the way.  And President Obama - protecting the wealthy.  
    Sorry. . . . . get out and vote! Make the change happen.

  •  I'm ABC (5+ / 0-)

    this upcoming election, just as I was last fall.  This time it's Anyone But Cuomo.  I will not vote for that scumbag.  

    •  "Anyone"? Really????? (1+ / 0-)
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      You want Scott Walker with a NY accent?  Because that is what you will get with Rob Astorino.  

      If anyone with a reasonable chance of winning comes along to primary Cuomo, I'll be all for him or her.  But, come November, if it's Cuomo vs. Astorino, I will hold my nose and vote for Cuomo.

      I’ve said before, I will always work with anyone who is willing to make this law work even better. But the debate over repealing this law is over. The Affordable Care Act is here to stay. -- President Barack Obama

      by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 07:28:11 AM PDT

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  •  Can't we just get the 1% to live in NYC (0+ / 0-)

    Then build a wall around it like Escape From NY?

    In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy

    by boriscleto on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 05:29:52 PM PDT

    •  Huh? There are many, many ordinary hard- (8+ / 0-)

      working folks living in NYC, hanging on by their finger nails in the face of inbelievable financial pressure to just get out and let the 1%ers take over everything.

      What's your problem?

      Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

      by Catskill Julie on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 06:44:06 PM PDT

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      •  To quote the Joker from the Tim Burton Batman... (0+ / 0-)

        "Decent people shouldn't live here. They'd be happier someplace else".

        In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy

        by boriscleto on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 06:50:45 PM PDT

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        •  Many LOVE living in NYC. Best city and best people (0+ / 0-)

          anywhere.

          Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

          by Catskill Julie on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 11:39:51 AM PDT

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        •  Oh, and I have lived in ten US states. NYC is the (0+ / 0-)

          most exciting, enjoyable, walkable, mass transitable place I've ever lived. We're pretty good on culture, diversity, energy consumption, obesity, longevity, air quality, pollution-ending, drinking water quality (famous :) and several other measures of good living.

          Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

          by Catskill Julie on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 11:47:08 AM PDT

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      •  Like Silicon Valley & Northern VA (1+ / 0-)
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        the hard-working folks are being forced out; as you note they are hanging by their nails. So what you say is true for now, not for tomorrow.

        NYC to the finance overlords comprising the .001%
        Silicon Valley is home to the technology gods and enablers making up the .01%
        Northern, VA & Montomery Co., MD to the NatSec enforcers of the above round out the bulk of the 1%.

        They are all economic aberrations and the only place still home to a large bourgeois class. Everywhere else is home to the 99%.

        I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony

        by pajoly on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 09:07:14 AM PDT

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  •  Fuck Cuomo and Schumer (3+ / 0-)
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  •  Do you suppose the reason that property,.... (9+ / 0-)

    rents, etc., in places like New York, San Francisco and so on are skyrocketing is because all of the Omahas, Tulsas, and so on are so stagnant?

    (I'm starting to go a bit off-topic since this isn't Cuomo specific. Sorry.)

    Could it be that our major cities are starting to attract more people than they can absorb properly simply because they're the only places that have at least some life in them?

    Are our so-called leaders also content to let these mid-sized cities and small towns continue to stagnate and encourage those who've been well rewarded monetarily to take over the few remaining places that still have some vitality?

    Sort of a reverse ghetto-ization?

    •  Yes (5+ / 0-)
      Are our so-called leaders also content to let these mid-sized cities and small towns continue to stagnate and encourage those who've been well rewarded monetarily to take over the few remaining places that still have some vitality?
      They have been for nearly 50 years.

      “Republicans...think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people... And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.” Harry S. Truman

      by fenway49 on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 06:50:55 AM PDT

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    •  "Stagnant" as in... (1+ / 0-)
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      ..."I won't pay way too much for marginally better things?"

      If so, yes.

      Not every place in "flyover country" (a term I HATE) has suffered like Detroit.

      You can't spell "Dianne Feinstein" without "NSA".

      by varro on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 01:34:21 PM PDT

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  •  Count me in on the Cuomo bashing. (5+ / 0-)

    I'm writing in de Blasio or Schneidnerman for Gov.

    •  Alternatively (4+ / 0-)

      vote Green or WFP (if the WFP runs someone that is not Andrew Cuomo.

      I don't normally advocate for that - but in Cuomos case, him winning with a much smaller margin of victory than he expects, with much of that margin going towards a candidate that run specifically to be to his left - it will send him and his outsized ego a message.

      Let him lose a few hundred thousand votes to Howie Hawkins or someone else on the ballot - so he can SEE those votes went to a particular candidate to his left.  I expect that would change his tune real quick, lest he become his old man, who also forgot his progressive ideals, pissed off his base, and lost to Pataki.

      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

      by Darth Stateworker on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 07:11:38 PM PDT

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      •  Like some on this site, you're (6+ / 0-)

        confused on the concept of how much power the Left actually has in certain states. If Cuomo gets a few hundred thousand votes less, it won't make him move to the left.  The only thinking he understands is money and the power that comes with that. The Left doesn't offer him power so forget it.  Forget it. And if he loses outright, we get a Republican who can inflict even more damage.  That's one of the biggest problem with having a Republican party that is so horribly dysfunctional: Dems don't get alternatives to our own problems (and forget about the Greens; that sends no message at all.)   Astorino is not an alternative to Cuomo and that's a shame.

        Don't misunderstand me, he's scum in my eyes ESPECIALLY after he stabbed the City in the back with the Charters.  But even if he loses less, he's still gonna screw the City over. Why? Because there's money to be made and because he can.

        •  I disagree. (1+ / 0-)
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          Mannie

          You underestimate how Cuomos outsized ego plays into this.  He doesn't just crave wins with the support of his big money donors.  He craves the power a slam-dunk, landslide win affords him in the Legislature, and the strength such a landslide win would display to the party and voters nationwide.

          Albany gossip about what Cuomo wants and how he acts tells all.  Thats not something you hear about much in the City.  He's all about his own ambition - I totally agree.  But he's a huge triangular,  and he triangulates he needs to win by huge margins to keep force-feeding his Third Way agenda on the state.  And he's right.  As I noted above - look to his fathers downfall for an example.  Anyone who clearly remembers Mario without putting him on the "liberal lion" pedistal will remember he was much more like Andrew is now - beholden to Wall Street and DLC policy - than most peoples idealized memories let on.  Andrew remembers his fathers loss to Pataki - which killed Marios chances to run for President - and he won't make the same mistakes.  If he senses his grip on the levers of power are slipping due to a lack of voter support, he will triangulate he needs to change his ways - at leastuntil his polling numbers rise and he can go back to being a corporate tool again.  His desire to satiate his lust for power is only matched by his drive to placate his larger-than-life ego.

          "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

          by Darth Stateworker on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 12:48:08 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Darth Govworker, is it possible that you (0+ / 0-)

            are flat out wrong?

            New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

            by AlexDrew on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 01:06:53 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  No. (0+ / 0-)

              But it is entirely possible you're a conservative troll that for whatever reason never got bojoed AlexDrew.

              "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

              by Darth Stateworker on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 01:40:54 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

  •  Chalk up another (7+ / 0-)

    "Cuomo the Turd Wayer" story:  this time, he's heading up to the Adirondacks to rah-rah with his charter school cronies:

    http://blog.timesunion.com/...

    "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

    by Darth Stateworker on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 07:06:24 PM PDT

  •  The upcoming NY GOOBERNER (Governor) election (2+ / 0-)
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    Why does my mind keep flashing back to an old South Park episode

    It is the one dealing with voting and the two candidates were literally a Giant Douche & a Shit Sandwich.

    When I think of Cuomo versus whatever tea-party repug nutjob, I keep envisioning that South Park episode

    Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

    by Mannie on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 07:34:25 PM PDT

  •  I think Cuomo is a good governor. (0+ / 0-)

    Yes, he has sometimes gone against the wishes of the state's Democrats, but overall he is liberal, although he does have some centrist leanings.

    He isn't nearly as right-wing as many paint him to be: http://thinkprogress.org/...

    •  Time to recycle a recent comment of mine (6+ / 0-)

       Every comment propping up Cuomo

      Is just an acceptance of pushing the Democratic party more and more to the RIGHT!

      Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

      by Mannie on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 11:53:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I am a Cuomo fan too (2+ / 0-)
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      bananapouch1, AlexDrew

      I am probably too the right of most on this site.  

      •  Same with me. (1+ / 0-)
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        AlexDrew

        I like Cuomo, and I don't think his center-left policies are that bad. He knows that he is the governor of the entire state, not just the most liberal part. And his policies aren't exactly far-right. This is a good bill: http://en.wikipedia.org/...

      •  A quote from your only diary (0+ / 0-)
        I am not ready to join the Democratic party as I want to take a break from parties.  Hell, it was my misguided loyalty to the Republican Party that kept me in it longer than I should have.
        What I see here, is what those on the left have feared for a while...

        The repugs becoming toxic and moderate rights joining the Democratic Party pushing the Democratic party further right.

        Now to quote the above poster you replied to

        I think Cuomo is a good governor. by bananapouch1
        My response
        Every comment propping up Cuomo

        Is just an acceptance of pushing the Democratic party more and more to the RIGHT!

        So when you say
        I am a Cuomo fan too
        ..I still can not wrap my head around how anyone could be a fan of Cuomo unless they are moderate republican, especially after Cuomo gave full support to the traitorous demonRATS who split off to caucus with the repugs in the NY state senate giving control of the state senate to the repugs!

        So you know that I am not directing my anger at you let me quote a long standing quote in my profile

        2014 is the year, we need better democrats, 2014 is the year that we need to PRIMARY the turncoat Andrew Cuomo (Gov-NY). Cuomo supported the democratic state senators breaking off and siding with reTHUGlicans. Enough is enough! PRIMARY CUOMO!

        Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

        by Mannie on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 01:54:11 PM PDT

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  •  This Cuomo . . . (3+ / 0-)
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    I dislike him.  

    Life is good. Injustice? Not so much.

    by westyny on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 11:47:43 PM PDT

  •  I have nightmares (7+ / 0-)

    about waking up and finding Andrew Cuomo the Democratic nominee for President.

    If Tom Friedman and a dozen of his favorite peers got to decide who was President, he'd be the ideal Democratic candidate for that Very Serious primary.

    Anybody wondering how, in an age of the GOP facing declining prospects due to changing demographics and the added burden of the Teahadi Jihadi, that a bad faith fueled intellectually dishonest morally bankrupt freak like Scott Walker could end up in the White House... that's how.

    He's a national top-ticket asskicking waiting to happen.

    “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.” — Auric Goldfinger

    by LeftHandedMan on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 12:45:34 AM PDT

    •  If Hillary were not the nominee (yes, I use the (0+ / 0-)

      present tense), Cuomo would be an obvious VP candidate for any corporate Dem ticket, but both can't "come from" NY.

      So maybe Hillary picks a Manchin or some other corporate Dem from a working class state.

      I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony

      by pajoly on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 09:10:24 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Cuomo cannot be nominated or elected President (1+ / 0-)
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      Who is going to vote for him? Do you think he's going to come out and stand in a barn in Iowa in January to win the caucus?  You think his arrogant, cold fish personality will wow them in Dixie?  or LA?  

      I can't explain his appeal in NY but he's culturally out of step elsewhere.  I mean we don't have Italians out here.  We have Germans, Scandinavians and Irish.  He doesn't connect with the folks on any level.  He'd add nothing to any Presidential ticket.  

  •  The Modern Democratic Party (6+ / 0-)

    in all its glory.

    The Republicans are crazy, but why we follow them down the rabbit hole is beyond me.

    by Jazzenterprises on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 06:50:53 AM PDT

  •  Excellent post. Thanks. (10+ / 0-)

    I write this as the the three-year jack hammer assault continues on -- the noise is relentless in Midtown.  I've lost count of the number of high rises being built by Bloomberg's cronies.  They are currently referring to 57th Street (between 6th and 7th Streets) as Billionaire's Row. And I despise Cuomo:)

    •  The jack hammer assault (3+ / 0-)
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      joanbrooker, Mannie, Don midwest

      in Brooklyn is the subject of this America Reframed episode.

      "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

      by Lily O Lady on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 08:20:15 AM PDT

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    •  Having lived in Manhattan for over 8 years (3+ / 0-)
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      I can't imagine ever again being able to afford to, or wanting to even if I can. Between the noise, density, homogeneity, gentrification, traffic, artificial prettification, etc., I can think of far better places to live.

      That said, it's still a great place to visit and hang out in. :-)

      "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

      by kovie on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 08:21:08 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Thanks. I'm considering writing a diary (1+ / 0-)
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      Mannie

      on how pernicious the corporate takeover of our neighborhoods/main st's/worlds have become.

      To me it's on brazen display here in NYC, but I have the feeling people from all over this country (the world) will be able to share their stories. It's an epidemic. And hardly anyone is taking about, though we all feel it and seem to be aware of it. To me, it's the elephant in the room.

      Everytime I see yet another bank or franchise, while another small business closes and another "For Lease" sign goes up, I feel almost lacerated by the 1%'s mockery: "haha suckers! we looted the public's coffers and now we're gonna throw it in your face!"

      "Human history began with an act of disobedience, and it is not unlikely that it will be terminated by an act of obedience." Erich Fromm

      by thirty three and a third on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 01:15:36 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  It's a bit simplistic to make this about (3+ / 0-)

    the 1% vs. the 99%. I've never really bought into that meme even though it sounds nice. If it really were the 1% vs. the 99%, there would have been open rebellion a long time ago. Rather, it's more like the 20-30% vs. the 70-80%, the former being much better off than the latter, such that there's a major inflection point where the two meet.

    Now, of course, there still is a huge divide between the top 1% of the 20-30%, with the former basically using the latter to exploit the remaining 70-80%. But even the "poorer" members of the top 20-30% are doing ok, some much more than ok, and they want to keep it that way, which is why they're willing to side with the 1% against the 20-30%.

    I'm talking about people who individually make at least $50-$70k, which may not be that much anymore, especially in bigger cities, but is still well above the national income average and poverty level. Figure $60-80k in bigger cities (and even more in the biggest ones like NYC). You can live fairly well on this much, assuming you don't have special needs, even if you're not living in luxury.

    And people who make this much and more generally don't want to risk it by rocking the boat. The 1% know this, and buy them off with such income (and scare them with the implied threat of losing it if they don't play along). Which is how the 1% dominate everyone else, by buying and scaring around a quarter of the country into siding with them, against the other three quarters.

    That's why NYC and NY and other blue cities and states have been able to go neoliberal, even though it seems counterintuitive. Less well-off people tend to vote their identities over their economic interests (which is why they often tend to vote for far-right Repubs who screw them blind), whereas better-off people tend to vote their economic interests over their identities (which is why they tend to vote for neolibs and corporatist Repubs). And better-off people tend to vote, and donate money to politicians, more than do less well-off people, so their numbers are disproportionally represented in politics.

    Pols like Bloomberg and Cuomo, while amoral and soulless, are also smart, and know all this, and have been exploiting it masterfully. In fact it was Reagan who first successfully exploited this politics of economic self-interest at the national level (in addition to exploiting the politics of racial and cultural identity and division that Nixon cynically developed, which thankfully Dems have not done for the most part, especially in blue areas).

    We focus a lot on the GOP's "Southern Strategy", and should. But we should also we aware of its "Northern Strategy" (surely there's a better name for it), that the Democratic party and neoliberals of both and no parties have also made use of in dividing the country to serve their own interests.

    What's the solution to this? How do you convince the still relatively well-off 25% of the country to side with the other 74%?

    Beats me. Experience tells me that it's really hard to do this.

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 08:17:52 AM PDT

    •  Sure, but in NYC many of the 1%ers truly (1+ / 0-)
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      Don midwest

      are very, very evil.

      The entire Yankees team, for example.

      (in interests of full disclosure, I am a Red Sox fan but I'm pretty sure that I'm still thinking objectively about this).

    •  But you don't have to be a neolib to appeal (2+ / 0-)
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      to upper middle class voters.  That may be true in New York but not elsewhere.  Yes, you do have to appear grounded and willing to work with not against the economic interests in your state but you can do that from a left of center perspective.  Minnesota is a model for that.  The Democrats here are very pragmatic but they're not totally owned by Wall Street either.

      I don't think New York is a good model for the Democratic Party.  A Midwest to west model works a lot better.  Pragmatic, can-do government with services popular with suburban families.  Government paying attention to and responsive to local conditions including local economic interests.  I guess in New York that does mean Wall Street but it doesn't mean that everywhere.  I mean what does a suburban family want?  Education.  Healthcare.  Safety.  Quality of life amenities.  Career opportunities.   Proactive government can make those things happen or facilitate them in cooperation but not surrender to local corporations.

      I mean you don't have to offer to cut Social Security to get the suburban vote.  You don't have to promise to fight Iran.  You can talk tuition support and parks and rec.

      •  No, you don't have to be one (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Mannie

        But it often helps, especially in cities like NYC. I can only speak from my own experience of having lived there for much of my life. The only other place I've lived in for any length of time as an adult is Seattle, which while an affluent city like NYC, is more progressive and less neoliberal. But then it depends on a combination of industry and hi-tech, not finance and media like NYC.

        Still, the more affluent people get, especially if they come from non-affluent backgrounds, the more likely they are to be seduced by neoliberalism IMO. Money makes people more conservative and less empathetic.

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 03:07:04 PM PDT

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  •  WOW! (2+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, Don midwest

    As a New Yorker, you have hit the nail on the head!  I have long felt that Cuomo's social progressiveness does not come close to out weighing his anti-progressive cow-towing to the NY Oligarchs, at the expense of the other 99% of New Yorkers I might add.

    He is nothing like his father, former NY Governor Mario Cuomo, who was a champion of the little man.  In fact, I can easily see Mario saying:

    Andrew, I am NOT your father!

    "Some men see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were and ask, 'Why not?"

    by Doctor Who on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 09:40:43 AM PDT

  •  excellent diary-similar trends elsewhere-oligarchy (0+ / 0-)

    a friend teaches in college

    he asks his classes how many people can define "oligarchy"

    only a couple out of 40 students

    never heard about it

    come to think about it, only in the last few years has the term been part of my everyday vocabulary

    and it sure isn't covered on corporate media

    Chris Hedges calls what has happened in the US a "corporate coup d'etat"

  •  Henry Giroux on neo liberalism (1+ / 0-)
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    aznavy

    lots of stuff

    here he is on Bill Moyers

    http://billmoyers.com/...

    Neoliberalism is a new form of hybrid global financial authoritarianism. It is connected to the Deep State and marked by its savage willingness in the name of accumulation, privatization, deregulation, dispossession and power to make disposable a wide range of groups extending from low income youth and poor minorities to elements of the middle class that have lost jobs, social protections and hope.

    Then, there is the central question, how does the Deep State function to encourage particular types of individualistic, competitive, acquisitive and entrepreneurial behavior in its citizens?

    biggest lie of all capitalism = democracy

    here is a link to several article on this topic

    http://www.henryagiroux.com/...

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