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Dr. Ben Carson receives Presidential Medal of Freedom from President George W. Bush in 2008
Dr. Ben Carson—the former surgeon who now spends his time wailing about the evils of President Obama, the perils of marriage equality, and how America has become "very much like Nazi Germany"—has become such a hero on the right that:
The National Draft Ben Carson for President Committee has raised $2.4 million over the last three months—more than similar groups supporting potential candidates like Hillary Clinton, Sen. Rand Paul, and Sen. Marco Rubio.
That alone is enough evidence to demonstrate the mind-numbing stupidity of political donors on the far right, but just in case you aren't convinced, it's even dumber than it first looks:
Though the Draft Ben Carson committee has raised $3.9 million since it was set up last year, it has spent money just as steadily. At the end of March, the committee had $228,000 in the bank and carried $515,000 in debt, according to a filing with the Federal Election Commission.
So a committee set up to raise money for somebody who says he isn't going to run for president (despite placing third in CPAC's 2016 straw poll) has not only raised $3.9 million, but it has spent $4.4 million, leaving it a half million in debt. And how did they manage to spend so much money?
Much of that money has gone to direct-mailing and fundraising groups, including one affiliated with the group's treasurer. The committee has also paid for ads on conservative radio shows and a website,
So a guy who owes his political stardom to right-wing media has inspired a PAC raising millions of dollars which it turns around and spends on a direct mail operation that conveniently happens to line the pockets of the PAC's treasurer and also funnels cash to the right-wing media, which will of course continue to give him a platform, which will allow the PAC to continue to raise money for a campaign that's never going to happen, which is probably good for the scammers, because in all likelihood, the dream of a Ben Carson presidential campaign is a far easier sell than the reality.

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  •  I gotta figure out how to get in on a racket like (20+ / 0-)


    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

    by CTMET on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:02:40 PM PDT

  •  Boats O'Plenty on the Potomac this year...... (4+ / 0-)
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    Buckeye Nation, jck, rhonan, Davui

    Come on Kochs.....give until you bleed.

  •  Whenever I see another pointless FP (0+ / 0-)

    post on Republicans.......

    Jed Lewison's byline is a sure answer.

    Well done.

    Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man; we shall this day light such a candle by God's grace in England as shall never be put out.

    by Bollox Ref on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:08:16 PM PDT

  •  I'd LOVE to come up with a scam like this (3+ / 0-)
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    skillet, jck, METAL TREK separate teapublican "patriots" from their money. I'd consider that a public service.

    Sadly...I'm just not talented that way. But I do admire these guys for pulling it off.

    "Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper

    by wilder5121 on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:08:18 PM PDT

  •  Dr Carson performs Radical Cashectomy (14+ / 0-)

    Without anesthetic

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:11:33 PM PDT

  •  In the post- Citizens United world, this just may (10+ / 0-)

    save us. All that conservative money gets bled off by grifters.

  •  "Scam Conservatism"... (3+ / 0-)
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    Doc Allen, akze29, anon004 redundant.

    "Wealthy the Spirit which knows its own flight. Stealthy the Hunter who slays his own fright. Blessed is the Traveler who journeys the length of the Light."

    by CanisMaximus on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:19:07 PM PDT

  •  God help us if the conservatives ever figure out.. (6+ / 0-)

    ....that direct mail is 90s-era marketing.

    •  Shh (1+ / 0-)
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      Some of them are still using mimeographs to send out hand-cranked monthly newsletters--huge emphasis on word "crank".

      "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

      by kovie on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:24:31 PM PDT

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    •  I think the scammers themselves know this. (0+ / 0-)

      And they also know that their marks are overly fond of re-living imagined glory days (the Reagan and Gingrich eras) and more comfortable with contact through old technologies like snail mail because they themselves are older.  And direct mail is a factor of I don't know how much more expensive than contacting someone through e-mail or social media, so if you're going to fleece someone of their assets, direct mail will get you the money much quicker.  And this is especially important for all the Republican "flash-in-the-pan candidates or "potential" candidates like Ben Carson.  Yep, quite the scam and quite the dupes.

  •  Somewhere, Rick Santorum is complaining... (5+ / 0-)

    ...that once more, blacks have all the luck and a white man from a working-class background can't catch a break.

    It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

    by Rich in PA on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:21:13 PM PDT

  •  Think of how many of these right wing scammers (7+ / 0-)

    ... have made a living out of being loudmouthed failures. Christine O'Donnell, former Congressman Joe Walsh, Ben Carson, Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, Pat Robertson... Hell, it's a cottage industry among the conservative set.

    As I have so often noted about these slimy hucksters, they're the real-life example of the Mel Brooks classic, "The Producers." They raise millions of dollars and engineer a flop as a way to make a good living.

    Only in "The Producers," they succeeded in spite of themselves.

    I don't think that's gonna' happen in the case of Dr. Ben Carson. But it won't stop him from continuing to bilk millions of old white ladies.

    "Bob Johnson doesn't have special privileges, because really, why would I entrust that guy with ANYTHING?" - kos, November 9, 2013

    by Bob Johnson on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:22:41 PM PDT

  •  He'll sure get my vote! (2+ / 0-)
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    He'd be the first black AMERICAN president woo hoo!

    /for the snark-challenged

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:23:19 PM PDT

    •  Would he? (2+ / 0-)
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      Guy was born in Detroit.
      "Detroit" sure sounds French.
      All you've got to do is cross the Ambassador bridge, and you're in CANADA!!!!!
      That don't sound American to me.

      Although ---

      I feel kind of bad snarking on the guy.
      He really is an accomplished guy and a talented neurosurgeon.

      In 2000, won the Jefferson Award for Greatest Public Service Benefiting the Disadvantaged.  Past winners have included people like Cesar Chavez, Marva Collins, Jesse Jackson, Jaime Escalante, Helen Hayes an Dolores Huerta.

      He and his wife started The Carson Scholars Fund, which has  handed out more than 5,000 $1,000 scholarships to school kids.

      I am, however,  perplexed how somebody that smart, that well educated, somebody who is part of the National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine can not believe in evolution.

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 06:02:36 PM PDT

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      •  I can only imagine (1+ / 0-)
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        that he suffered some sort of massive blow in the intervening years, whether medical, personal or whatnot. Something snapped in him. None of this has anything to do with the underlying issues and everything to do with his mental state IMO. Perhaps he got Senator Gearyed?

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 06:08:51 PM PDT

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        •  No evidence of anything. Must have always been (0+ / 0-)

          that way.

          I do know one other guy, not in Carson's league, who believes in Creation even though he is well educated in science and has worked on both the old Fermilab Tevatron and the LHC.

          He explained it in a way that made sense to me, but  made me wonder if he truly grasped the idea of faith.

          Basically, it was this:

          His faith was very important to him and to his family.  He said that a literal reading of the Bible was central to his faith and that meant he must reject evolution rather than risk undermining his faith.

          I understood what he was saying and could respect a reasoned conscious choice.  Still, a number of fundamentalist Christians have managed to embrace evolution. Even that die-hard bastion of fundamentalist belief, Wheaton College, now invites guest lecturers speaking on the compatibility of Christianity and evolution and leaves it up to the students to make their own choices.

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 06:24:17 PM PDT

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          •  It makes sense only for the weak-minded (0+ / 0-)

            Again, perhaps he suffered a blow that he dealt with by embracing an escape from terrifying reality via comforting mythology. To me, that's the essence of religion, simple answers to complex questions.

            And yes, I realize that I just insulted several billion people there, to which my response is that I literally don't give a damn. Reality is reality and everything else is just make-believe, however comforting it may be.

            Back to Carson, he's either a massive liar exploiting true believers, or else he had some sort of breakdown. No way does someone as smart as him and also black embrace such voodoo ideology for any other reason.

            "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

            by kovie on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 07:36:42 PM PDT

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            •  I reject that out of hand. (0+ / 0-)

              My friend is not remotely weak-minded.  His ability to recognize the irony of his dilemma proves that.  

              You may insult anyone you please and are free not to care, but you may wish to cast your gaze in a mirror when throwing out terms like "weak-minded".  It's easy to insult, hard to understand.

              LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

              by dinotrac on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 07:41:25 PM PDT

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              •  Belief in creationism for an educated person (0+ / 0-)

                is being weak-minded, period, end of discussion. To entertain any other view is itself being weak-minded, out of some misguided attempt at being politically correct and "respectful". I grant no special privilege to religion than I do any other archaic and silly belief system. Why others do is beyond me, except that they probably haven't fully thought it out yet.

                I will not retreat from this position. Ever.

                "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

                by kovie on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 07:44:29 PM PDT

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                •  You are free to rigidly hold your ground. (0+ / 0-)

                  I understand that discussion can be threatening.  It is very much the same thing as my friend who clings to Creationism.

                  LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

                  by dinotrac on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 07:48:29 PM PDT

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                  •  Bullshit (0+ / 0-)

                    To reject creationism and to give people who believe in it even the slightest out is rigid? Sheer and utter bullshit that's a very weak-minded argument.

                    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

                    by kovie on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 08:41:18 PM PDT

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                    •  Never studied decision theory, have you? (0+ / 0-)

                      Check out Pascal's Wager some time.

                      There is more subtlety to this world than "You think differently from me. You must be weak-minded."

                      Have more faith in yourself. There is no reason to feel threatened by diversity of thought.

                      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

                      by dinotrac on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 12:41:25 AM PDT

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                      •  No (0+ / 0-)

                        You think stupider than me, by believing in things that have no basis in reality, therefore you must be weak-minded. All ideas are NOT equally valid, Blaise.

                        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

                        by kovie on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 05:15:34 AM PDT

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                        •  What do I believe in? People? (0+ / 0-)

                          Decision theory?
                          Rational thought?

                          Why would any of that be stupid?

                          Why so defensive?
                          Do you doubt your own choices?

                          There's no reason for you to do that.

                          Atheism is a rational choice, completely defensible and, in most circles, completely acceptable.

                          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

                          by dinotrac on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 06:43:50 AM PDT

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                          •  I didn't meant that YOU were stupider than me (0+ / 0-)

                            But rather educated people who believe in myths AS reality as opposed to as useful allegories. I probably read the bible for non-religious reasons more than do most self-described "religious" people.

                            Again, it's about the relative merit of ideas as based on facts and logic, not about all ideas being equally valid, which is just silly. I respect peoples' right to believe in whatever they want to believe in, even if I don't respect them for believing in some of these ideas, let alone the ideas themselves.

                            Superstition should have no place in rational discourse, no matter how "reassuring". We need to move past that.

                            And as I type this, someone on TV is saying that 51% of Americans don't believe in the Big Bang, and 40% don't believe in evolution, global warming and the true age of the earth. You respect such people and their beliefs?

                            "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

                            by kovie on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 06:52:31 AM PDT

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                          •  That's why I mentioned Pascal's Wager and would (0+ / 0-)

                            have mentioned research that's been done into the way people make choices and the manner in which it feeds back into their beliefs, but couldn't remember the researcher's name.

                            You can make a rational and defensible choice to believe the irrational if it results in an enhanced quality of life.

                            I think something similar happens with regard to global warming, especially amongst people a little further down the socio-economic ladder: faced with massive disruption in their lives and convinced they will be on the losing end of any changes, it's easy to decide that global warming is a crock.

                            LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

                            by dinotrac on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 07:27:05 AM PDT

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    •  The right's best hope (1+ / 0-)
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      Since they all think Obama was only elected because he was black, I'm sure they are convinced that if they get their own black man he will be a shoe-in.  

      •  Yeah, like pizza sexual predator guy (0+ / 0-)

        It's kind of comical watching the GOP's presidential hopes turn into high farce, but then a lot of smart people said the same thing about Germany and the Nazis in the 20's, so I'm only laughing up to a certain point. These people are profoundly creepy and dangerous and I wish that Dems would destroy them already and stop all the nice-making.

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 07:39:45 PM PDT

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    •  The first REAL black American president, you mean. (0+ / 0-)

      As opposed to the poseur Kenyan Muslim socialist-fascist-communist usurper currently occupying the White House.  

  •  They just emailed me! (1+ / 0-)
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    They want me to transfer funds from my credit union checking account to a bank in Nigeria I think, so I can get in on this deal!

    Very excited!

    "So, am I right or what?"

    by itzik shpitzik on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 05:36:44 PM PDT

  •  For people who are constantly flapping their gums (4+ / 0-)
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    about fiscal conservatism, wingnut teabagging Republican voters are amazingly easy to separate from their money.

    I hope Carson sucks $100 million from these morans. That will just mean less money for more "serious" GOP candidates.

    •  You would think the wealthy (3+ / 0-)
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      akze29, BlueKS, skod

      would be a bit more demanding on what they get for their money, and do a bit more due diligence to make sure it wasn't just lining the pockets of the guy doing the asking.

      But then again, we already knew that wealth doesn't necessarily correlate with smarts.

      Do they also fall for the "Hi grandma I'm on vacation in Timbuktu and ruffians stole everything I have so please wire me $10,000 cash immediately" scams?

  •  If you ever listen to multiple (3+ / 0-)
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    right-wing radio shows over the course of a day, the entire
    grifting, scamming nature of the conservative movement is made clear to you very quickly. Ben Carson is just another cog to plug into the machine for 15 minutes a week, in between the Goldline and Lifelock ads. The entire apparatus is designed to swindle paranoid people. There are some true believers out there, but almost everyone is in on the scam, and they know what's going on. It's completely cynical, almost to the point of sociopathy.

  •  Does draft "so-and-so" ever work? (0+ / 0-)

    ... except in cases like Wendy Davis for governor where the prospective candidate says they would run if not for a lack of support?

  •  Grifters gonna grift! eom (1+ / 0-)
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    Just another faggity fag socialist fuckstick homosinner!

    by Ian S on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 06:25:44 PM PDT

  •  Bonanza (0+ / 0-)

    An honest heart being the first blessing, a knowing head is the second..Jefferson's Letter to Peter Carr

    by JugOPunch on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 06:36:34 PM PDT

  •  People who no doubt claim they (1+ / 0-)
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    are fiscal conservatives who don't believe in debt, LOL!

  •  He's just their latest Stepin Fetchit (1+ / 0-)
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    ... doing his minstrel dance for his massahs.

    Following in the footsteps of Allen West, Herman Cain, Michael Steele and even Colin Powell and Condi Rice.

    The carnival barkers of the GOP love to have some shuckin-and-jivin' black stooge willing and able to go out and do their vaudeville dance in front of the teevee cameras.

    Plus then they can argue, "we do too allow black people in the party!!"

  •  he's simply following the sarah palin model, (0+ / 0-)

    without going through the mess of actually running for office.

  •  grifters - but we have them also (0+ / 0-)
  •  Lefties know a lot about nothing (0+ / 0-)

    First of all Dr. Carson is not aloud to associate with this group because of Federal Law.  Second the reason for a drafting campaign is to get that candidate known. So you need to mail out pamphlets, buy radio commercials. I know that is hard to understand.  How else do advertise.  

    Now lets look in your back yard!
    News for HILLARY GUILTY of campaign fraud

    Hotel magnate and Clinton pal pleads guilty to illegal ...
    New York Daily News ‎- 6 days ago
    Sant Singh Chatwal, 70, masterminded a scam to raise more than ... a pal of Bill and Hillary Clinton, pleaded guilty Thursday to recruiting straw donors to make illegal campaign contributions to three federal candidates.

    Also why is it that lefties radio shows are aloud to use commercial money and conservative talk shows can't. Because you are above the law.

    Wow!! Yeah that's what I thought.

  •  Hillary hasn't announced she's running, either! (0+ / 0-)

    Hillary hasn't announced she's running, and look at their expenditures. Dr. Carson has never said he isn't running. He has always said he would consider it. Get your facts straight and look at these numbers.

    Hillary Clinton for President:
    Net Contributions:                     $3,795,076
    Net Operating Expenditures:     $9,004,387

    Draft Ben Carson:
    Net Contributions:                     $3,872,555
    Net Operating Expenditures:     $3,651,869

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