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Five days ago, flyers were left in a Donetsk synagogue that demanded that all Jews register with the "Donetsk Republic Commissar for Nationality Affairs" and pay a $50 fine. The flyers further claimed that failure to do so would result as follows:  "Those who refuse to register will be deprived of citizenship and forcibly expelled from the republic and their property will be confiscated."

As disgusting as the flyer was, it was also proven to be a hoax on Friday, yet the media and the executive branch keep flogging this story as if it were true. It would be one thing if this were standard disinformation, but in this case lives are at stake.

Join me below the orange cloud for more...

    I don't claim to be an expert on the history of the Jewish community of Donetsk, but any breathing person can surmise that between the Czarist pogroms, the wars of the early twentieth century, Stalin's collectives and purges, the Nazi invasion, the Holocaust, and Communism, that it's a miracle and a testament to human fortitude that Donetsk has a Jewish community at all.

    Thus far the Jewish community of Donetsk has not been an issue in the greater conflict of the Ukraine, but after attention from both the western media and the executive branch, they have received attention that is both unwarranted and unwanted.

Anti-Semitism is a reality in the Ukraine. It is largely low level, but it can be exacerbated easily. Shining a completely unwarranted spotlight on them, with this media attention, puts them and all they hold dear at risk. These people would like to just live their lives without any untoward attention, yet thanks to the western media, there is an attention now that didn't exist before.

Here's a word from the Rabbi.

My fear is that one or both factions may blame and/or persecute this small community for something they absolutely are not responsible for. Are we really so base that we can throw a small but thriving Jewish community under the bus to advance our rhetoric?

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  •  Tip Jar (8+ / 0-)

    … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

    by mosesfreeman on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 08:55:26 PM PDT

  •  For some interesting coverage (2+ / 0-)
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    mickT, cotterperson

    of the Ukraine, check out Vice News!

    Let's cut through the BS!

    … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

    by mosesfreeman on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 09:00:29 PM PDT

    •  By "executive" (1+ / 0-)
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      Claudius Bombarnac

      I mean Obama, Kerry and Rice, all three bought in and promote this hoax (check 'em out on youtube!), I just pray that the people in Donetsk won't have to die for their stupid, war-mongering games.

      … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

      by mosesfreeman on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 09:32:58 PM PDT

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    •  You mean this kind of news?: (1+ / 0-)
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      Hey338Too

      A recent tweet from Simon, from a city occupied by Russians/Pro-Russians:

      Simon Ostrovsky ‏@SimonOstrovsky  Apr 20
      If [Avakov] comes here I'll personally put a bullet in his head... I won't shake hands with a faggot. Sloviansk's new Pro-Russia mayor
      https://twitter.com/...

      So, in your view, although reporters in Crimea were called "kikes" by pro-Russian/Russian Cossacks and many amongst the so-called pro-Russian crowds in Ukraine have Russian fascist/neo-nazi backgrounds, they proven themselves to be homophobes of the highest order over and over again, we should consider it unlikely that they are anti-semites?

       

      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

      by Lawrence on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 11:34:37 PM PDT

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      •  If you are talking about the scariest (1+ / 0-)
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        players around, that would be Pravy Sektor, Ukrainians all, the same guys that shot up the checkpoint recently.

        If you are talking about anti-semites and homophobes, there are plenty to go around on both sides.

        All the more reason to not drag innocents into the conflict, don't you agree?

        … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

        by mosesfreeman on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 11:47:42 PM PDT

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        •  Lol (0+ / 0-)

          And your proof that Pravy Sektor shot up a checkpoint is?

          The Russian media?  ;)

          "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

          by Lawrence on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 11:58:39 PM PDT

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          •  That's what the story is (1+ / 0-)
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            ChadmanFL

            They are a rough bunch, as you've seen. Noone else had a motive, unless you buy the batshit CT stuff that pro-Russian folks shot themselves.

            You never addressed the idea that innocent Jews shouldn't be brought into the conflict, so I assume that you are uncomfortable saying that they shouldn't be?

            If that is the case, then why?

            … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

            by mosesfreeman on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 12:33:47 AM PDT

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            •  Proof? (0+ / 0-)

              Post some links.  Let's see your sources for the claim.  Because the only people I see making that claim are Kremlin-backed media.

              Btw, you should realize that one of the first people killed by Yanukovych's shock troops was Jewish, that there was a Jewish sotnia there, and that the Jewish leaders of Ukraine have written Putin a letter, telling him to buzz off.

              "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

              by Lawrence on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 12:37:47 AM PDT

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              •  But you still avoid addressing (0+ / 0-)

                the topic of the diary, or perhaps you approve of using Jews as political pawns?

                … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

                by mosesfreeman on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 12:54:09 AM PDT

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                •  Kremlin propaganda has been using Jews as (1+ / 0-)
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                  political pawns from the outset.  That was clearly stated when Jewish leaders of Ukraine wrote an open letter to Putin, telling him to leave Ukraine in peace:

                  The Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine are not being humiliated or discriminated against, their civil rights have not been infringed upon. Meanderings about “forced Ukrainization” and “bans on the Russian language” that have been so common in Russian media are on the heads of those who invented them. Your certainty about the growth of anti-Semitism in Ukraine, which you expressed at your press-conference, also does not correspond to the actual facts. Perhaps you got Ukraine confused with Russia, where Jewish organizations have noticed growth in anti-Semitic tendencies last year.
                  http://www.dailykos.com/...

                  So, you're ok with Putin using Jews as political pawns in his justifications for his invasion of Ukraine?

                  Still waiting on your proof for your other claim......

                  "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

                  by Lawrence on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 01:16:01 AM PDT

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                  •  Sorry aout the delayed response (1+ / 0-)
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                    Life intervened, as can happen. It's not as if there are huge  numbers of media outlets willing to stake claims in these issues, but one example is Prensa Latina.

                    Btw  I appreciate your recent diary about the kidnapping of Simon Ostrovsky, let's hope that he is soon released.

                    … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

                    by mosesfreeman on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 09:32:10 PM PDT

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                    •  Thanks for the appreciation. (0+ / 0-)

                      I've been following Ostrovsky's  fantastic reporting from Ukraine since the beginning.  I have to admit that I've feared for him ever since he was nabbed by the former Berkut guys on the Crimean border in dispatch 6:

                      http://www.dailykos.com/...

                      Am very worried about him now.  Yes, let us hope that he is alive and well and will be released soon.

                      Fyi, Prensa Latina is a media outlet based in Havana - they are basically just repeating Russian Media's initial claims about the incident there.

                      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

                      by Lawrence on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 02:09:31 AM PDT

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  •  I wanted to vomit (3+ / 0-)

    When I heard about this last week and I don't consider it a hoax.  Putin's stamp of approval is all over this.  Anybody who can treat the LGBT Community with such disgust will do the same with the Jewish and other communities.

    Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011) Voting is a louder voice than a bullhorn but sometimes you need that bullhorn to retain your vote.

    by Rosalie907 on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 09:21:09 PM PDT

    •  Why do you think Putin would do this? Actually (4+ / 0-)

      it could be this was a provocation designed to generate a knee jerk emotional response from the west and paint the pro-Russia militia as neo-nazis and generally, as fascists (even though it was the ultra nationalist Right Sector that was instrumental in the overthrow of the Yanukovich government).  That seemed clear to most of the population targeted.  

      "Fragmented and confused, we have no plan to combat any of this, but are looking to be saved by the very architects of our ruination."

      by BigAlinWashSt on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 09:33:58 PM PDT

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    •  All Israeli news outlets considers it a hoax (4+ / 0-)
      http://www.haaretz.com/...
      Flier calling on Donetsk Jews to register now widely seen as fake
      ...
      Meanwhile, the Anti-Defamation League said it was "skeptical about the … authenticity" of the fliers, which have been widely reported and accepted as authentic, including by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, who denounced them as "grotesque."

      Also, Julia Ioffe, who covers Russia for The New Republic, wrote: "The Donetsk Jewish community dismissed [the fliers] as 'a provocation,' which it clearly is. 'It's an obvious provocation designed to get this exact response, going all the way up to Kerry,' says Fyodr Lukyanov, editor of Russia in Global Affairs. 'I have no doubt that there is a sizeable community of anti-Semites on both sides of the barricades, but for one of them to do something this stupid — this is done to compromise the pro-Russian groups in the east.'"
      ...

  •  Whoever distributed those fliers (2+ / 0-)
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    was trying to stir up sh*tstorm and they did.   Raising the specter of another round of ethnic cleansing is always an attention grabber.  

    That community will need lots of moral support in the days to come because this is surely not going to be the end of their troubles.  

    It's the Supreme Court, stupid!

    by Radiowalla on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 09:23:56 PM PDT

    •  David Gregory (1+ / 0-)
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      of Meet the Press shutting his mouth would do them a great service, Andrea Mitchell too.

      … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

      by mosesfreeman on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 09:56:13 PM PDT

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  •  Your diary includes at least one lie (2+ / 2-)
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    As disgusting as the flyer was, it was also proven to be a hoax on Friday
    You presented no proof.  The article you cited (http://www.theguardian.com/...) says:
    But on Friday the chairman of the Donetsk People's Republic and the city's chief rabbi both stated that the flyer was a fake meant to discredit the so-called republic or the Jewish community.
    The actual quote from the chief rabbi, however, is considerably more equivocal.
    "I think it's someone trying to use the Jewish community in Donetsk as an instrument in this conflict. That's why we're upset," the chief rabbi, Pinchas Vishedski, told journalists on Friday.
    Given that the separatists are now ethnically cleansing Roma (http://www.dailykos.com/...), and that this time the NYT got them on record taking credit for their actions before their Russian handlers were able to reach them and tell them to deny it, I find the fliers quite believable.
    •  No lies (1+ / 0-)
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      CharlesII

      even Haaretz says its fake. My point though, is close to yours, that the Jewish community of Donetsk is being used unfairly and unwillingly in a conflict that they don't want and didn't invite. Folks need to shut up and leave them alone!

      … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

      by mosesfreeman on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 10:07:19 PM PDT

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    •  Let's not do the HR thing people (2+ / 0-)
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      Radiowalla, JamieG from Md

      it's really unnecessary!

      … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

      by mosesfreeman on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 10:14:32 PM PDT

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    •  It is outrageous to call this a lie (3+ / 0-)

      The article that Freeman has linked is headlined,

      Antisemitic flyer 'by Donetsk People's Republic' in Ukraine a hoax. City's chief rabbi states pamphlet is fake, claiming it is meant to discredit pro-Russian protesters or Jewish community
      Now, exactly what is going on in Donetsk is debatable. But mosesfreeman has accurately represented what the article says. You can disagree without using this sort of personal invective.

      To encourage you to do so, I have HRed your comment.

    •  The first notice that it was a hoax was on (0+ / 0-)

      7:25 Wednesday morning.

      http://translate.google.com/...

      Home \ Holocaust and genocide , Ukraine , News , News \ In Donetsk distributed Nazi instruction for Jews
      ...
      Journalists Media Project "Kiev Jewish 'asked for comments to Denis Pushilin. He confirmed that a leaflet signed by the organization he heads, really resounded in Donetsk. He assured that neither he nor his organization did not have any relation to it.

      "Some ugly yesterday distributed to outlets Kalinin district ... But even here the poor worked - I myself never called people's governor ...

       Jewish Kiev April 16, 2014 at 07:25 Views: 12437

      I find the fliers quite believable.
      No Jewish news agency does.
  •  Lie? Hoax? Really? (3+ / 0-)
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    Lawrence, viral, Radiowalla

    The purported author denies writing the flyer. That said, NOBODY disputes that the fliers were actually handed out. Whether it was done primarily to intimidate Jews, or as a propaganda piece for other purposes that intimidated Jews, either way, it was intended to intimidate Jews. To call it a hoax, or a lie, ignores the very simple undisputed fact that the things really were handed out, and really were intended to intimidate Jews.

    So the argument is, 'well yeah, sure, the Jews were intimidated, but we don't know who wrote it.'? Not much comfort to the Jewish community.

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    by dhonig on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 04:34:56 AM PDT

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