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Within the next 5-10 years the world will realize that we have changed our environment in a permanent and destructive way

As far as modern humanity's needs, the full implementation of the technical potential of solar and wind energy development can be complimented by the potential for safe nuclear energy.  

Combining these carbon-free energy sources with the necessary energy conservation and dietary/agricultural production changes that will be necessary, on a global scale, in this coming epoch of perennial drought and heat waves, will allow us all to have both the equivalent of unlimited energy and provide for the opportunity to restore our ecosystem to a sustainable CO2 concentration level.

Whether or not we will do this depends on how we finally do react when the realities of global warming become a certitude in the minds of the vast majority of the population.  It will get much worse before it gets better.  But to say that society is "evil" or that we have no possible solution is worse than cynical, it is careless and hopeless and an absolute falsehood that is based on faulty premises.

Only 100 years ago, in western society, women were given much fewer citizenship rights, animals had no rights whatsoever and there was no such thing as environmental protections.  We have come a long way in our understanding and this increase in understanding is growing at an exponential rate.  

There is still hope.  Hope for an equitable modernity that orients toward the preservation of future generations and the restoration of our ecosystems.  There are valid examples of this happening (have happened!) all over the world.

It is everyone's job, those of us who are accurately informed, to understand what they can do on a personal level to ensure that this is where we end up going.

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  •  It is starting to sink in slowly. (3+ / 0-)

    I don't know if Russia, China or India will do much to change? Solar will lead the way in the next few years here in this country.  This mid term is critical to remove the GOP strangle hold on Congress so we can progress.  

    •  Actually, China has seen the light. They lead the (2+ / 0-)
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      unfangus, Sunspots

      world in switching to renewables now. It's just that they have so far to go before they get those emissions down.
         India and Russia are not big contributors to CO2 emissions. China, the US, and Europe are the big polluters.

  •  Geothermal energy needs to be explored. (2+ / 0-)
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    Lefty Coaster, Sunspots

    Some area of the Rocky Mountains in the western US have hot springs.  Large portions of the Rockies have accessible sources for geothermal energy.  This renewable energy source sould be developed in areas where heavy snowfall makes solar energy more difficult to harness.    

  •  And check out (5+ / 0-)

    "If Wall Street paid a tax on every “game” they run, we would get enough revenue to run the government on." ~ Will Rogers

    by Lefty Coaster on Thu May 01, 2014 at 01:47:02 AM PDT

  •  Future generations aren't creating revenue in (4+ / 0-)

    the current quarter so they are expendable.

    "It's no measure of health being well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"

    by buckshot face on Thu May 01, 2014 at 04:43:27 AM PDT

    •  And Future Conditions Aren't Going to Be Severe (1+ / 0-)
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      enough to threaten ownership and its clans.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu May 01, 2014 at 05:01:28 AM PDT

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      •  not so sure about that part. (3+ / 0-)
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        maryabein, Attack Gardener, Sunspots

        My sense is that one of the first too-big-to ignore casualties of ACC will be the global economy. since that's built on an article of faith (money ain't edible, we just all agree to agree that it is worth something), the outsized power of the elites will deplete rapidly when their money loses its value and their ability to leverage power disappears. Uncertainty, we are constantly told, is BAD. We're headed for uncertainties that are unprecedented, and by orders of magnitude. The diarist points to advances in the social order, but I would point out the counter; that these things happened in a stable ecology. I doubt the treatment of women and animals would have advanced much in a dystopia where crops don't grow regularly, there are fewer and fewer animals to hunt or fish, currency is useless, and barter is chaotic. Giving a leg up to the disadvantaged doesn't often happen in those circumstances.  
        Diarist says it's cynical, but I feel it's like watching a recidivist alcoholic still scrounging rotgut after getting his cirrhosis diagnosis. Show me some effort toward change, and I'll believe in change. Show me doubling down, I'll base my forecasts on that. Fracking, tar sands, arctic drilling; we're doubling down.
        So it is my black hope that the world economy crashes, permanently, before the environment is pushed past the point of human survivability. the alternative is apocalypse. I don't see a realistic path to redemption without destruction of the extractive, exploitative world order.

        Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

        by kamarvt on Thu May 01, 2014 at 05:23:07 AM PDT

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        •  Very nice. (0+ / 0-)

          "It's no measure of health being well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"

          by buckshot face on Thu May 01, 2014 at 08:35:31 AM PDT

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        •  We have yet to begin (1+ / 0-)
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          however the signs are there.  I would point to China having projections of installed solar capacity exactly twice the total amount of U.S. installed solar generation capacity within only 1 year (2014).

          When the ice caps are gone in September 2020 and the weather becomes twice as chaotic as it has been.  When the electricity production of lake mead halts and California agriculture struggles.  

          These wake up calls will allow for further implementation of these mitigation efforts, separately from the "free market" ideologies.

          Though I admit that it may take a revolution. . .literally

          Be the change that you want to see in the world

          by New Minas on Thu May 01, 2014 at 07:58:16 PM PDT

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  •  When push comes to shove, (0+ / 0-)

    vote with our wallets. If we can turn the tide against GMO's in the supermarket, we can follow Germany's example and adopt renewable energy sources.

    Consumerism is the deepest shrinkage of what it means to be human. Dr. Vandana Shiva

    by bisleybum on Thu May 01, 2014 at 05:13:18 AM PDT

  •  Old saying - "Where there's life, (3+ / 0-)
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    there's hope."  I've just realized a 40-year-old dream and installed a PV system on my roof.  Wish I could also afford the batteries to get totally off grid.  I have no idea whether or not humans will be able to make the changes needed in time to stop total disaster (at least as far as most currently living species are concerned), but we haven't hit total disaster yet, so there is hope.  

    We don't have enough water for nuclear - or actually to keep doing any of the fossil fuels for that matter - even if we had time.  That horse got out of the barn a long time ago.  But there are other solutions.  The "if" is if we will implement them.

    •  not sure why you say we don't have the water for (1+ / 0-)
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      What if the power plants are built on the seashore?

      Be the change that you want to see in the world

      by New Minas on Thu May 01, 2014 at 07:59:25 PM PDT

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      •  Nuke plants need an ungodly amt of water. (0+ / 0-)

        If we go wholesale for nukes as replacements for fossil fueled plants, even if we could (takes 5+ years from groundbreaking to online for a nuke plant) long before we were finished we'd be facing an "electricity or food" choice.  Even if we did build near seashores (actually have built near seashores - there's a plant off Matagorda in TX among other places) we'd need to use some of that electricty generation to desalinize the water first, making the nuke plant less efficient and we have the same issues of thermal pollution off the coast that we have with the cooling reservoirs inland.  Seashores are very vulnerable to hurricanes.  That Matagorda plant was right in the path of a major hurricane a few years back that luckily veered and hit Houston instead (although Houston didn't think it was lucky)  Most coastal areas are heavily populated.  Some coastal areas are also seismically unstable as well.  Think Fukishima.  All reasons to not put nuke plants on seashores.

        Basically, between water demand (and a coal plant uses almost as much) and time we don't have, nukes are a waste of our personal energy that needs to be used in getting more viable solutions implemented.

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