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The Georgia open primary is in less than two weeks.  There is a lovely bunch of coconuts running to replace our dearly beloved Saxby (I smeared Max Cleland) Chambliss.  Should we progressives cross and vote for any of these characters?  I think so, because I would like to see Michelle Nunn have a fighting chance.  Sadly my favorite, Paul Broun, 'straight from the pit of hell guy' is lagging way behind.  I'm torn between voting against Perdue or voting against Handel.  Perdue is the sanest of the bunch, but Handel has ladyparts which might be an edge against Nunn.  Here's a very brief intro of the candidates.  Kossacks, what say should my friends and I do?  
BTW, there are no competitive Democratic primaries.  There is likely to be a runoff, and you can't vote in it unless you vote in the first one

Frontrunner:  David Perdue, sanest of the bunch and first cousin of Sonny who was elected governor, proceeded to convince enough of the Democratic state legislators to change parties to flip the state bodies.  

He'll have the backing to sell himself with millions from his own personal coffers. And politics runs in the family of former Gov. Sonny Perdue's first cousin. But Perdue, of Sea Island,
Second: Karen Handel, known for her anti-public education stances and a brief but ghastly reign as Secretary of State.  Has the endorsements of Saint Sarah and Jan Brewer, no less.  Tea Party favorite
she had a highly publicized falling out with the Susan G. Komen for the Cure foundation over its support for Planned Parenthood, which provides abortions
Also running:

 Phil Gingrey: currnently running an ad featuring a mother who lost her son in Afghanistan about how much of a help he was to her.

Foes have pounced upon his verbal missteps, including saying that women who are raped would have a tough time conceiving and his contention at a closed-door House Republican meeting that he is "stuck here making $172,000 a year" while staffers could make far more lobbying, and thus should not be worried about losing employer health benefits.
Jack Kingston: currently running an ad featuring his lovely children sitting around the kitchen table bragging about how cheap he is
While he entered the race declaring that he will "not be outflanked on the right," Kingston has had to defend his tenure, which at times does not pass purity tests for outside conservative groups or tea party enthusiasts.

Paul Broun:  physician and who can forget the picture of him in the room full of dead deer.  

He says he votes according to the Constitution and the Bible. He frequently calls President Barack Obama a communist and once said evolution and the Big Bang Theory are "lies from the pit of hell."
 there are two others, Art Garner and Derrick Grayson.  The block quotes from  Sorry, I can't get the link to take.

  Getting together with some progressive friends this weekend and would like some input to share.  Note: there's likely to be a runoff, but you have to vote in the first to vote in the runoff.   There are no competitive Democratic issues this time around

Originally posted to kathy in ga on Thu May 08, 2014 at 04:07 PM PDT.

Also republished by Kos Georgia.


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  •  Gingrey or Broun (2+ / 0-)
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    Louisiana 1976, hilltopper

    Whoever is further ahead in the polls.   I don't see any reason to vote for Handel or Perdue since there's going to be a runoff anyway.

  •  If you look closely at the Nunn girl... (1+ / 0-)
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    She isnt exactly her daddy. As my grandmother said, its like trading shit for manure. This state is already the laughingstock of the nation when you consider the morons our brain dead voters elect time after time.

     Hopefully Michelle will win. She has some good endorsements, mainly Sam's buddies. But we could do a lot better all in all.

    I'm amazed that anyone would cast a ballot foor Gingery, Broun or that jackass from the coast. He's a complete nutcase. My almost daughter in law worked for him. Lord, please.

    But that's Georgia, that's the South and that's life, right?

    If ever I become entirely respectable I shall be quite sure that I have outlived myself- EV Debs

    by EdinGA on Thu May 08, 2014 at 05:58:13 PM PDT

  •  Vote for Gingrey (1+ / 0-)
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    He's more likely to win the primary than Broun, and he's less likely to win the general than everyone else but Broun. It's called "ratfucking" - do it!

    TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (Celia Israel-D). Senate ratings map (as of 3/10/14)

    by Le Champignon on Thu May 08, 2014 at 06:25:59 PM PDT

  •  The Crazy One (0+ / 0-)

    I would say to vote for the crazy one but they are all crazy.  

    If it were me, I would vote for whichever of the three Congressmen that is highest in the polls.  The polls seem inconsistent but the last one I saw had Kingston in a close third.

  •  A tip (2+ / 0-)
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    Vetwife, worldlotus

    It seems that the Nunn campaign or the Dem party ought to have a subtle way of letting people know who Nunn's chances would be best against.  

  •  Vote for the Democratic candidate you prefer (1+ / 0-)
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    Open primaries are a bad idea because of mischief like this.  Let the people in each party choose their candidates straight up.  

    Shouldn't we be a little better than the slimeballs in the Tea-GOP?

    •  The Democratic primaries (2+ / 0-)
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      Are getting no action. And this isn't uncommon. Open primaries are an awful idea, and we're going to show them exactly why.

      I'd love to share your little sentiment about us having to place nice and be "better" than the other side, but with control of the senate and the Supreme Court on the line I'm going to do everything I can short of breaking the law.

      These fuckers haven't been playing games, passing laws to ensure our base can't turn out to vote. And we can't afford to let ourselves play games, either. My moral objection to the poor and underprivileged dying in the streets of my state due to our Governor not allowing them to get health insurance over-ride any moral objection to sabotaging their party.

      Georgia's going blue, but it's doing it too slowly. We need -this- election cycle to be the one, not the next one. And we need to do what needs to be done to make that happen. (Again, without breaking the law.)

      •  I think we can do better (0+ / 0-)

        There are always critical issues, going back decades.  Even in the past ten years I think 2004 and 2006 were more critical (and probably 2010).  

        At any rate, of the 3 GA GOP candidates that have a chance of winning--Handel, Perdue, and Kingston--they aren't that different in terms of craziness/electability.  And there is at least one Democratic alternative to Michelle Nunn who might be worth voting for as well. even if he doesn't have a chance of winning the primary.  Having healthy competition among Dems is useful.

        •  Healthy competition? (0+ / 0-)

          It ain't healthy competition, we know who's going to win. The dem primaries for statewide races are pretty pre-determined, there's no point in voting in their primaries. If anyone but Nunn and Carter win we'll likely lose anyway, their legacies give them an extra boost other candidates don't have (Which is why it'd be nice to etch Perdue out).

          As far as 2004, 2006, and 2010, I would've done this exact same thing in any one of those elections if I could vote in them.

          This is pretty standard operating procedure for elections, to sabotage the other side. If you recall, McCaskill and various Dem groups actually rammed Todd Akin through the primary knowing he was their best shot at winning.

          I honestly wish Nunn would donate $20 or something to one of the candidates so we knew who she WANTED to face, but as is I'm voting Handel to deny the GOP Establishment their candidate in the runoff. (Kingston is tied with Handel for the second runoff spot, and Kingston is the establishment pick with a Chamber of Commerce backing, while Handel is Tea-Party backed. Pretty easy to see who's more likely to lose)

  •  I live in Georgia, and (0+ / 0-)

    I'm crossing over to vote in the Republican primary because I believe that the Republican nominee, whoever it is, is gong to beat Michelle Nunn in November.

    Why? Because Nunn is running a 90's style Republican-lite campaign...focusing on issues like ending health insurance subsidies for congress and cutting entitlements, while ignoring issues like increasing the minimum wage and creating good-paying jobs. As a result, she won't motivate Democrats to show up at the polls. I'll vote for her in November, but again, she's likely to lose.

    Since I believe that the Republican nominee with be our next U.S. Senator, then I'm voting for David Perdue in the Republican primary because he's the least offensive of the bunch (which isn't saying much).

    •  Don't vote for the least offensive (0+ / 0-)

      They're all going to have identical voting records, the only difference is Handel is Tea-Party backed, so we could make McConnel or whoever ends up minority leader's life hell by adding another idiot to the mix. We could also make the election considerably closer, and with the weakest possible candidate at the top of the Senate Republican ticket, it could bleed over to the governor's race so that Nathan Deal can get his ass whipped out of office by Jason Carter.

      NEVER help them, unless one of their candidates is truly good. Which very rarely happens. And a vote for Perdue doesn't even matter, he's going to make the runoff no matter what. Handel and Kingston are fighting for slot #2 of the runoff, and I don't want double establishment candidates in the runoff, so I'll be voting for Handel so the Tea Party has a chance to kick this race to us.

      •  I respectfully take issue with the (0+ / 0-)

        notion that I'm helping them.

        And no, the Tea Party is not going to kick this race to us.

        You're operating under the notion that a Tea-Party Republican will persuade Republicans to vote Democratic or not vote at all. Georgia Republicans will not vote for a Democrat (even one masquerading as a Republican) over an actual Republican (even one backed by Sarah Palin).

        Swing voters, to the extent that they exist, are irrelevant.

        This idea that we can win by crossing-over and helping to prop up a weak candidate up is foolishness. Either vote for the candidate that you'd prefer in the Democratic primary or vote for the candidate that you'd prefer in the Republican primary. Either way, whoever wins the latter race is likely to be our next U.S. Senator.

        If you want to vote for Handel, then go ahead. But understand that you're helping her more than you're helping Michelle Nunn.

        Michelle Nunn should help herself by differentiating herself from these crazies, not pretending to be one of them with her nonsense about cutting entitlements, balancing the budget, and ending health care subsidies for Congress.

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