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Democrats serving on the Benghazi Committee made a lot of noise in todays hearing over the issuing of a subpoena to parade the dead bodies of the four Americans who died in the tragedy before the committee during a prime time memorial service. 'This is an outrage Mr. Chairman!' cried Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland. Mr. Cummings banged his fists several times and was sweating profusely as he called out the GOP majority for 'exploitation.'  The Chairman, GOP Rep. Trey Gowdy, calmly informed Mr. Cummings that the vote would be taken after all members recited the Pledge of Allegiance. All members, including the Democrats, stood as ordered, but the Democrats, except one, promptly sat down during the voting. The measure passed 8-4 with one Democrat voting for the parade.

Republicans pounced on the vote quickly with a nationwide email blast seeking to raise funds, highlighting a picture of Mr. Cummings in full rant: 'This man and Obama don't even have the decency to stand for America #Benghazi' GOP sources say Mr. Cummings rant brought in their 2nd best day of fundraising since the Committee began its work. 'We hope he keeps talking!' said a senior GOP strategist. 'We were out of gas on ObamaCare, so this has been well executed as a replacement.'

Sources told Politico, however, that the best day of GOP fundraising came when the committee first covened and Rep. Henry Waxman, age 74, and the committee's ranking member, began pointing his finger at Chairman Gowdy, age 49, and repeatedly shouting 'This is a farce! This is a farce!' However Mr. Gowdy had misheard Mr. Waxman and said to the clerk 'The gentleman from California would like entered into the record 'This is a fart. This is a fart.''

Republicans quickly capitalized on Vine, with its biggest fundraiser of the year #ThisIsAFart videos raising millions for GOP candidates. Democrats have been eager to use the Benghazi hearings to fire up its own base, but have had much less success. 'Our people want to hear about jobs, wages, and ObamaCare, not Benghazi' said a senior Democratic operative close to the White House. Democrats are searching for ways to move past the Benghazi debate, but concede it is difficult now that they are immersed in the Committee's work. Asked about the Vine videos, Mr. Waxman replied 'Republicans are not being fair or mature. This whole thing is silly.'

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  •  No cigar. (5+ / 0-)

    Life is just a bowl of Cherries, that stain your hands and clothes and have pits that break your teeth.

    by OHdog on Sat May 10, 2014 at 04:24:07 AM PDT

  •  This is an insult (12+ / 0-)

    to Representative Cummings.  

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Sat May 10, 2014 at 04:32:24 AM PDT

  •  Let's take a more nuance look. (3+ / 0-)
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    k9disc, OregonWetDog, gchaucer2

    The Benghazi Straight Jacket

    I think the discussion is worth having.

  •  If a Democrat is going to join the farce (4+ / 0-)

    They should make a point of visibly reading a book. Like say, "My Pet Goat" - or maybe the memoirs, etc. of the various perpetrators of the Bush Regime.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Sat May 10, 2014 at 04:41:48 AM PDT

  •  As if Republicans won't "pounce" on votes they (2+ / 0-)
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    salmo, SoCalSal

    take on this kangaroo committe whether Democrats are there or not.

    You're a little off on this one BBB. If Dems "want to hear about jobs" then they can talk their asses off about jobs. But, that doesn't mean ignoring Bullghazi makes it go away. What are you going to say when they vote to open impeachment hearings? Boycott them? Talk about jobs? Our base doesn't care?

    Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

    by tekno2600 on Sat May 10, 2014 at 05:49:19 AM PDT

    •  It. Doesn't. Matter! (10+ / 0-)

      Whether Democrats sit on the committee, participate on the committee or just defecate on the committee, it doesn't matter.  The Republicans are planning on just having their little kabuki play and will decide on trying to impeach the President whether any Democrats participate or not.  We saw the dress rehearsal for this performance with Issa's little stunt re the IRA "scandal."  The Republicans can do whatever they damned well want in the House and the Democrats can't do anything to stop it.   So long as the Republicans have Faux Noise to broadcast whatever they decide to do with the committee, the Democrats can't stop "stories" from leaking out.  Why bother to put a veneer of legitimacy or respectability on it?  

      What Democrats should be doing is trying to make sure they get on the other media sources to point out how this vendetta is sucking up time and resources which should be spent on job creation, immigration reform, banking regulation reform and improving the ACA, which even the Republicans now claim they want.  Show the Republicans for the feckless fools they are as we go into the mid-term elections to get the base and potential base out to the polls in November.

      "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

      by PrahaPartizan on Sat May 10, 2014 at 06:29:31 AM PDT

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      •  It does matter. You have to have "inside" fights (0+ / 0-)

        and "outside" fights. You are pushing this defeatist ideology about how you can't accomplish anything inside the House or on this committee because the Republicans control everything. Well, then just resign every Democratic seat in Congress, because the Republicans are in control. So. it. doesn't. matter. right? The Republicans always win, right? No use being an opposition party, right?

        Wrong. You fight INSIDE the system even if you are at the disadvantage.

        But, you also fight OUTSIDE the system by drawing attention to the fact that this is a farce. You still talk about all the things that matter to Democrats and point out that this Bullghazi crap is a distraction. But, the idea that boycotting this hearing will delegitimize it or allow the Democrats to enact a magical agenda that that would just be impossible if one Democrat spends one minute on this committee, that's absurd.

        Even if they boycott, Dems will still have to spend time responding to the crap that Republicans dredge up. If they just cover their ears, as some people here are so wisely suggesting, they do so at their peril and our peril.

        Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

        by tekno2600 on Sat May 10, 2014 at 11:12:50 AM PDT

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        •  Participating in the GOP Kangaroo Kommittee... (1+ / 0-)
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 order to cover their asses would be to operate from a position of weakness.  Once again, Democrats would be dancing to the Rethuglican tune - all the while protesting that they really have better things to do.  And yet, there they are.  Once again...

          Saying "no thanks" to the opportunity to get sucked back into the GOP drama machine would be to operate from a position of strength, a position of self-confidence, a position of self-determination.  It would state, far more powerfully than any mere words, that Democrats are going to set their own agenda from now on - not react to the Rethug agenda; that they're going to play offense from now on - not defense.  It would be so refreshing - not to mention self-empowering - to see Democrats behave that way.  For a change.

          The operative model here is the Great GOP Federal Government Shutdown of October 2013.  If you'll recall, Republicans painted themselves into a corner by demanding the repeal of the ACA as the price for releasing their death grip on the federal purse strings.  They screamed, they ranted, they threatened - they pulled out every scare tactic, every intimidation tactic in the book.

          Obama, Reid & Pelosi essentially told them to go fuck themselves - then waited them out, for the next three weeks, until they finally cried "Uncle!".  Mission accomplished.  And all we had to do is stay strong, and refuse to get stampeded anymore by Rethug bully tactics.

          All that is necessary for the triumph of the Right is that progressives do nothing.

          by Mystic Michael on Sat May 10, 2014 at 05:29:43 PM PDT

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        •  Totally Disenfranchised (0+ / 0-)

          I don't know how anyone could be more wrong.  The Republicans have already told the Democrats that they will have no ability to influence anything which happens with the committee.  The Democrats will not know who the witnesses are to be, what questions are to be asked of the witnesses, and, as we've seen from Issa's tactics with his "hearings," the Democrats will not even be afforded the ability to ask questions designed to counter the Republicans leading questions or to bring out the contradictions being made by witnesses favorable to the Republican claims.  So, pray tell, just how are the Democrats supposed to work INSIDE the system, since the Republicans have already told Democrats that they will not be allowed INSIDE the system?  Why do some people have such difficulty understanding that?  This is not going to be a trial where previously established ground rules exist to assist with uncovering the truth.  It's an inquisition wherein the answers are already known and the form used to "reveal" the "truth" has already been established.  Why give such a show trial any semblance of truth or justice since it has not an ounce of either?  Congressional Democrats will be answering the same insipid questions from the media whether they sit on the committee or not, so being there will not enhance Democratic arguments one iota.

          "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

          by PrahaPartizan on Sat May 10, 2014 at 08:48:06 PM PDT

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  •  the whole thing is fucking bullshit. (8+ / 0-)

    which is why it is taking place while real issues fester.

    Legal means "good".
    [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

    by xxdr zombiexx on Sat May 10, 2014 at 05:52:28 AM PDT

  •  Call it what it is, Sabotage. (11+ / 0-)

    They've been doing it so long, Republicans have nothing to offer but sabotage.

    Benghazi is just another monkey wrench they are throwing to disrupt government.

    More sabotage from Republicans.

    Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

    by k9disc on Sat May 10, 2014 at 05:52:54 AM PDT

    •  Exactly! (2+ / 0-)
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      They learned that they can't just call it a government shutdown because that doesn't poll well for them.  So instead of shutting down officially they have 50 votes to repeal the ACA and sequential hearings on Benghazi.  They know they can't vote on anything because every single Republican position is unfavorable with the American public.  So they have these farcical hearings and use those to attack Dems.  And the Dems don't fight back.  Dems could set up their own hearings on jobs, minimum wage, etc.  And of course the media wouldn't report it.  But they have millions in campaign money to make their own commercials about it.  

      "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

      by stellaluna on Sat May 10, 2014 at 07:11:49 AM PDT

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      •  Then say it. Sabotage. (5+ / 0-)

        I find it amazing that no Democrats seem to be able to say that word.

        Say it, please, I mean, it's a winner!

        Benghazi and a host of other sabotage moves like the debt ceiling and that childish "repeal" of the Affordable Care Act and the fake outrage at a Republican think tank health insurance plan.

        It's just another Republican monkey wrench thrown at Uncle Sam. Starve the Beast with deficit spending and debt. Drown the government in a bathtub.

        After 30 years of sabotage, Democrats should probably say something about it.

        Imagine the media questioning or, even better, defending Republicans from, the sabotage charge.

        "Did the Republicans try to sabotage Obamacare?"

        "Republicans did not try to sabotage Obamacare!"

        And the Republican base will demand that their reps say,"Yes!" to those charges.


        Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

        by k9disc on Sat May 10, 2014 at 07:53:45 AM PDT

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  •  When your enemy is determined to self-destruct (8+ / 0-)

    You either get out of the way, or help them achieve their goal. Let them double and triple-down on a really bad bet. It will only hurt them in the end.

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Sat May 10, 2014 at 05:59:44 AM PDT

    •  Dems could use this (7+ / 0-)

      as a platform to turn every Republican Benghazi statement into a concern that this Benghazi inquiry is killing more than 4 American but 17,000 losing their lives because of the Republicans' failure to expand Medicare for millions of people by Republican Gov. and the House's repeated efforts to repeal the law and telling people not to sign up.

      Dems then can say that more than 4 Americans are killed every minute by Republicans writing and passing gun laws that put guns in the hands of criminals, mentally disturbed militia and right wing groups who are killing scores of  Americans right here on American soil.

      Dems can turn every Republican opening into a platform to demonstrate that these people don't care about the 4 Americans killed any more than they care about the thousands of Americans their policies are killing every minute.

      DEMs should come up with something that can work minimum wage, unemployment, the amount that the Benghazi and IRS, Immigration has added to the deficit and other Republican actions.

  •  This is what to do - Elijah Cummings them (2+ / 0-)
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    Akido is a 100% defensive form.  As long as your opponent stands perfectly still, nothing happens.

    The moment he makes an aggressive move, however, he'll instantly end up on his ass.

    Know that $20 I owe you? Well, since money equals speech, then speech, of course, must equal money. C'mere and I'll read you the Tao Te Ching.

    by thenekkidtruth on Sat May 10, 2014 at 06:01:13 AM PDT

  •  You know sometimes (0+ / 0-)

    you only slowly realize that a dream is  dream? You're sleeping, and you think the action is real, is occurring while you're in a waking state. Then you slowly realize it's a dream.

    That's like starting out thinking something is real, then you realize it's just too weird to be real. It's humor.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Sat May 10, 2014 at 06:45:27 AM PDT

  •  There's no R strategy beyond weekly fundraising (2+ / 0-)
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    Kingsmeg, SoCalSal

    totals.  I don't know whether that's good or bad for them politically, but it sucks for America.

    Schedule permitting, PROOF WILL BE PROVIDED ON HOW I AM BEING "CONSTANTLY CALLED OUT" AND "UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED" FOR BEING BAD. Moreover, the dossier on my activities during the Bush administration will have an appendix concluding that I am Wrong.

    by Inland on Sat May 10, 2014 at 07:00:18 AM PDT

  •  Republicans are a fart. N/T (0+ / 0-)

    Best. President. Ever.

    by Little Lulu on Sat May 10, 2014 at 07:50:17 AM PDT

  •  This incident illustrates why (2+ / 0-)
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    salmo, Mystic Michael

    Joining this kangaroo court was a massive mistake for the Dems.  Energizes the Repub base and gets completely ignored by the Dem base.  No upside.  Expect more similar incidents in the future.

    'Tis with our judgments as our watches, none go just alike, yet each believes his own. - Alexander Pope

    by liberaldad2 on Sat May 10, 2014 at 09:32:22 AM PDT

  •  Better Overreach Than Impeachment 1998 (0+ / 0-)

    This would get every progressive to the polls and persuade swing voters that they have to take power from the GOP in Congress. Are you making the case for or against participating on the committee?

    JK. I have gone to leaning to participating. But it is a tough call. I think either way, the GOP brand will be get even more damaged.

    •  What some Kossacks don't seem to realize... (1+ / 0-)
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      Leo Flinnwood that Democratic participation on the Rethugs' kangaroo kommittee would actually energize and invigorate Rethugs.  Having one's adversary right there, actively arguing against your bullshit, tends to have that effect.  It would help to unify them, it would tend to draw more media - everything that we don't want.

      Boycotting the kommittee, however, would have the opposite effect.  Boycotting sucks the oxygen out of the kommittee room.  It leaves the Rethugs without an active adversary, right there in the room, contesting the nonsense, contending with the kommittee chair for equal time to speak, etc. etc.

      It would boil down to the Rethugs simply talking to themselves - once again.  The relative lack of conflict would quickly become boring.  Except for FOX, of course, the MSM would soon lose interest.  And so on.

      In essence, DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

      All that is necessary for the triumph of the Right is that progressives do nothing.

      by Mystic Michael on Sat May 10, 2014 at 05:48:19 PM PDT

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      •  Right Wing Media Will Invigorate Base (0+ / 0-)

        Doesn't matter what the Democrats do. So they are going to be fired up about Benghazi and the IRS no matter what the Democrats do in response. Think the variable we can control in response is how our base is motivated and what the sliver of swing voters perceives the Benghazi situation to be. Do we really want the MSM to lose interest in this if it is an issue where The Democrats look like they are in the right and the Republicans look batshit crazy? Election Day we want independent voters and progressives to think that Trey Gowdy is an ambulance chasing attorney who looks like the banjo player from Deliverance. Please Proceed Representative Gowdy. Lets give this piece of southern fried shit some rope to hang the GOP with.

        •  Two reponses (1+ / 0-)
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          Think the variable we can control in response is how our base is motivated and what the sliver of swing voters perceives the Benghazi situation to be.
          "Sliver" of swing voters is right.  Even so, I say they'll be far more motivated to vote Democratic if they see the Democrats actively fighting for them (i.e. increasing the minimum wage, defending the ACA, fighting back against GOP voter suppression, etc. etc.) than they will by seeing the Democrats merely defending themselves from the Rethuglican bullshit machine.

          As for the Democratic base, they couldn't care less about this conjured-up, 100% synthetic fantasy.  They want to see actual progress on things that are real.

          Do we really want the MSM to lose interest in this if it is an issue where The Democrats look like they are in the right and the Republicans look batshit crazy?
          If it allows Democrats to pivot back to playing on the territory that will actually help them to win elections?  YES!

          All that is necessary for the triumph of the Right is that progressives do nothing.

          by Mystic Michael on Sun May 11, 2014 at 08:32:28 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

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