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In some states—like Texas, where a pair of college art students created a series of graphics to support a bill protecting mothers' public breastfeeding rights—this isn't even a dramatization:

Woman breastfeeding baby in a bathroom stall with text
Women have been asked to stop breastfeeding in church, during jury duty, at the pool, at the mall, and on social media. Often, they’re specifically told to go to the bathroom. Sometimes, they have even less sanitary options available to them — one Pennsylvania woman sued her employer after being forced to pump breast milk in a dingy and sweltering locker room littered with dead bugs.

Obamacare took a step forward in this area by requiring all employers to provide their workers with “reasonable break time” to pump breast milk, as well as a private and clean space for that activity. Advocates praised the health law for “bringing breast feeding out of the bathroom.” But the state laws in this area still vary. Twenty two states — including Texas — don’t specifically exempt breastfeeding from public indecency laws. The legislation tied to this ad campaign would protect Texas mothers’ right to feed their babies in public, stipulating that “a mother’s authority to be in a location may not be revoked for the sole reason that she begins to breast-feed.”

Women are told to breastfeed for their children's health, then told that breastfeeding effectively means they can't go out in public. It's just one of the many catch-22s of being a woman, but it's a situation that can be improved by making it clear in the law, if not in the minds of some idiots, that breastfeeding is not some kind of inappropriate sexytime but is in fact how babies eat.

Originally posted to Laura Clawson on Wed May 14, 2014 at 11:01 AM PDT.

Also republished by The AandP The DK Arts and Politics Group and Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (181+ / 0-)
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  •  It's easy enough for women in the 1%. (12+ / 0-)

    You hire a wet nurse, if you didn't use a surrogate already.

    •  Very few women even in 1% do that. (5+ / 0-)
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    •  Or... (1+ / 0-)
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      they could just get back in their limo to do it?

    •  All the girl in the picture needs to do is to put (0+ / 0-)

      a scarf or other light cover over her breast and the baby's head, and she will not offend people with public nudity.  
      My wife did this while breast feeding all three of our children, and usually no one even noticed what she was doing.  If they did notice, her breast was completely hidden.  
      Question - Is this illegal in Texas?
      We spent a couple weeks there when she was breast-feeding our first child, and no one seemed offended.  
      Of course, she had no desire to exhibit her naked breast; the loose covering over it and baby was her idea.  

      •  Breastfeeding (4+ / 0-)
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        Isn't it wonderful that the same people who are so, so willing to defend at the top of their lungs, the right of a zygote to reach maturity as a fetus suddenly become deaf, dumb and blind when issues involving the care of the new born child are involved.  They seem to feel that having done all that hard work picketing and protesting to protect fetal life; they now can relax and let the mother figure out how to care for and feed said "precious gift from god."  If a breast feeding mother is relegated to a dirty bathroom stall to attend to her child, well, that is only what she deserves for trying work or live her life when she should be staying at home to take care of the baby.  The US never had purdah for women but it is an idea Texas can get behind, when it comes to mothers, no matter that she may have to earn a living.  She should have thought of that before she had "sex"  the horror.

        •  yes (4+ / 0-)

          and quick to point and quick to banish.  It's been awhile, but I once got kicked out of a church picnic, I was there with family members, and of course I was discreet, but there are always possible moments of nipple exposure, and that was foreseen and I had to go.  Sit in a hot car, hiding. That's 40 years ago, but hey, it was a church picnic. It's gross to breastfeed in a stinky public rest room.

          The whole mammal thing upsets some, and there were a few generations who didn't, and so some of us had to learn from books, our moms didn't know and doctors didn't know. You'd get free formula when you left the hospital, and they'd encourage you to supplement, which turns out isn't so smart. Even pumping is not quite it, room for bacteria, it isn't exactly pasteurized, but until babies are allowed into boardrooms and company's provide on site nurseries, it's the best anyone can do, so of course it's extra insulting to have that also be 'a problem.'  

          (You'd think none of them had mothers!)

          part of the definition of a mammal is we feed our young with milk from the mother's body.  Not a very garden of eden notion?

          plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

          by anna shane on Sat May 17, 2014 at 12:27:04 PM PDT

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      •  Some babies object to being covered over (1+ / 0-)
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        And besides there is absolutely NOTHING in the world about breastfeeding.  People that don't want to witness a baby eating are welcome to focus their attention elsewhere.

        •  This was my favorite part of his post. (8+ / 0-)

          "and she will not offend people with public nudity."

          I'm pretty sure "public nudity" involves being NUDE in public. Breastfeeding our babies is not NUDITY. He needs to get over his damned bigotry, sexism and ignorance.

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          by weezilgirl on Sat May 17, 2014 at 12:44:45 PM PDT

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        •  I can't believe I read in a progressive (0+ / 0-)

          blog that babies should just be covered up .... so as not to offend the possibly offended....

          We have a long ways to go.

          I was always discreet but some people will be offended simply because you aren't in a toilet or hot car feeding your baby....

          I love the new ads but just really embarrassed that they are needed.

          I was "COVERED" up while feeding my young baby at the San Francisco Zoo.  San Francisco!!!!!! When two old biddies, with 2 foot long fake finger nails and even longer cigarettes scolded me for being obscene...

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          by Damnit Janet on Sat May 17, 2014 at 08:27:52 PM PDT

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          •  I covered my baby and myself, out of simple (1+ / 0-)
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            modesty. There is nothing wrong with being modest, but their is nothing wrong with openly nursing your baby either. Seems simple enough to me that we all just prefer it that people be thoughtful when handling a body function in public. I see no shame in being discreet and it does not make me uptight or liberal, either way I view this activity. All of us can use a bit of consideration of others, so why can't those who are NOT nursing have the courtesy to look away, when a mom needs to take this action in public?

            Is every single responsibility in life always put almost solely upon women? Sure seems to be sometimes. They blame you for getting pregnant. They blame you for having an abortion. They blame you for breastfeeding. They blame you for using food stamps to feed your hungry, poor children. Is there no end to the blaming of women? I'm really sick of the right wing mentality which seems so hell bent on the downgrading of all things female, unless you happen to be a female Republican.

            Ann Coulter for example - seems she can be as evil as the devil, and no one criticizes her for it.

            A real double standard going on in this country.

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            by 2BOrNot2B on Sun May 18, 2014 at 07:57:24 AM PDT

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      •  Some babies throw coverings off. (6+ / 0-)

        I don't want to show my boobs off either, but babies like other individuals, have their own ideas about how things are going to go down.

        It's important not to make this about separating "good moms" from "exhibitionist moms" because that is a false argument that doesn't need to be re-explored.

        What should also bother us is no where to wash baby bottles in public places other than public restrooms. That's just nasty too.

        "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

        by GreenMother on Sat May 17, 2014 at 03:27:58 PM PDT

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        •  if it's nasty to wash a bottle in a restroom, (0+ / 0-)

          isn't it also nasty to wash your hands in there?

          Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

          by AaronInSanDiego on Sun May 18, 2014 at 12:02:57 AM PDT

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          •  Your hands aren't rubber nipples or the inside of (0+ / 0-)

            bottles that go into a baby's mouth.

            Go wash your toothbrush in a public bathroom, or your coffee cup, or your eating utensils.

            Clean your contact lenses in a public bathroom--I am sure no harm will come of it.

            "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

            by GreenMother on Sun May 18, 2014 at 08:01:44 AM PDT

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            •  perhaps there should be public facilities (0+ / 0-)

              for washing any of those things. Food service workers are expected to wash their hands before preparing food, but if doing so in a restroom is unsanitary, perhaps there should be separate facilities for that as well.

              Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

              by AaronInSanDiego on Sun May 18, 2014 at 08:09:48 AM PDT

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              •  You are not supposed to use the same cleaning (0+ / 0-)

                utensils in the bathroom that you use in the dining facility or kitchen of a eating establishment--did you know that?

                You are not supposed to use the same mops or brooms or scrub brushes that are purposed in the bathroom, in the dining or kitchen facilities.

                Most kitchens have a deep sink. Where hands can be washed again.

                "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

                by GreenMother on Sun May 18, 2014 at 08:23:23 AM PDT

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      •  It is against Texas state law... (2+ / 0-)
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        to tell a woman who is breastfeeding to stop. I have no idea what the point of this diary is.

        It seems to suggest the opposite is true. You can't stop women from breastfeeding in Texas.

        You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

        by Eric Stratton on Sat May 17, 2014 at 03:41:43 PM PDT

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        •  I suspect most moms don't bring the babies to work (4+ / 0-)

          but they need a place to pump breast milk for later. I can tell you guys it's really uncomfortable to suddenly be a double D with milk running down your body onto your shoes.  I was told to use the dean's private bathroom (this was 1981). Presumably it was more private than the public ladies' room, except for that time he opened the door.  But geesh, it was a bathroom, I was leaning over his grungy sink and this was my baby's food.

          beam me up Scotty- there's no intelligent life down here

          by ladybug4you on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:14:40 PM PDT

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          •  Which is why a woman's place is in the home. (0+ / 0-)

            Kidding. I'm kidding. Put that down, violence won't solve anything. Seriously, the image at the top of this post showed a mother with a baby in a dirty toilet stall. State law in Texas is currently sufficient to ensure that never happens. Now, if you want a lactation room, I can see why that would make life alot easier for nursing mothers. But it's a bit much to suggest that Texas is hostile to breastfeeding. There is alot wrong with Texas, but it's just not that bad.

            You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

            by Eric Stratton on Sat May 17, 2014 at 07:50:25 PM PDT

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      •  your ignorance is gobsmacking (8+ / 0-)

        My son is 3, and from the second he was born he refused to be covered. The unearhtly shriek that would burst from him when a head cover was applied was far more distracting to others than if my wife had pulled her shirt off and fed him with both jugs hanging out while playing a hornpipe. Thankfully here in Indiana she's exempt from public nudity laws so she actually could take her shirt all the way off in public to feed him. She wouldn't, but she could.
        Foolish admonitions about modesty are a big part of the problem dogging breastfeeding mothers.

      •  That's fine (4+ / 0-)

        when adults start eating with a blanket over their heads. (I've seen some people eat that I wish would eat with a blanket over their heads.)

        There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

        by Cali Scribe on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:27:57 PM PDT

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      •  I agree about public nudity. (0+ / 0-)

        The baby should at least wear a diaper. But I don't think covering the head is necessary.

        Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

        by AaronInSanDiego on Sat May 17, 2014 at 11:59:45 PM PDT

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  •  I was having dinner out the other night (22+ / 0-)

    and there was a large birthday party celebration group in the restaurant. One of the women in that party had an infant and breastfed through what looked like a high sided bottomless tote bag. It was an absolutely brilliant design for accomplishing the purpose. The high sides completely blocked the mother basically from the neck down and the open top meant the baby wasn't closed in with poor ventilation. There was complete privacy for the mother and nothing to make anyone in the surroundings uncomfortable. I had never seen anything like it, but if I knew a breastfeeding mom, it would make a great gift.

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Wed May 14, 2014 at 11:15:02 AM PDT

  •  Well a bathroom is "private" (1+ / 0-)
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    but it should be clean too. My question is why an employee would let their fellow employees make the bathroom a pigsty? our bathroom has special soaps and lotions that we all bring in and we all work to make it clean.  No one, let alone a babyy, should have to use unsanitary or unclean places..

  •  Good for them (21+ / 0-)

    We don't feel the need to eat our lunches in the bathroom because it makes others uncomfortable to see it. People need to get over the fact that babies have to eat and milk comes from breasts.

    Pumping breast milk is something people generally want to do in private though, so it's important that employers provide a clean space other than the bathroom for employees to do it.

  •  Even a "clean" bathroom isn't necessarily (19+ / 0-)

    clean. Consider the dread norovirus, which can be "aerosolized" when sick individuals use the bathroom (really terrible diarrhea and vomiting). See, e.g., Norovirus Outbreak: Why You Shouldn’t Keep Your Grocery Bag in the Bathroom

    My sister and her family were felled by it about a month ago - truly a miserable (and potentially dangerous) bug.

    “…The day shit is worth money, poor people will be born without an asshole.” – Gabriel Garcí­a Márquez, The Autumn of the Patriarch

    by mikidee on Wed May 14, 2014 at 11:34:50 AM PDT

    •  There was a Mythbuster episode on coliform (6+ / 0-)
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      bacteria in the bathroom. Basically if you keep your toothbrush in the bathroom you're brushing your teeth with toilet water, and I don't mean perfume.

      GOP 2014 strategy -- Hire clowns, elephants, and a ringmaster and say "a media circus" has emerged and blame Democrats for lack of progress. Have pundits agree that "both sides are to blame" and hope the public will stay home on election day.

      by ontheleftcoast on Wed May 14, 2014 at 12:57:15 PM PDT

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      •  Why do we remember these things? nt (3+ / 0-)
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        “…The day shit is worth money, poor people will be born without an asshole.” – Gabriel Garcí­a Márquez, The Autumn of the Patriarch

        by mikidee on Wed May 14, 2014 at 02:30:32 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, you might as well clean the toilet with your (3+ / 0-)
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        mouth! Even petri dishes held open at the doorway were covered in bacteria, the air!
        Oh, and those little paper toilet seat covers...don't ask...
        Peace and Blessings!

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        by Penny GC on Wed May 14, 2014 at 02:55:57 PM PDT

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        •  Fecal bacteria gets on everything everywhere (0+ / 0-)

          It may be "gross" but who cares? Fertilizing vegetables with manure is pretty gross when you think about it.

          You do know you have fecal bacteria inside you right now? EWW right?

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          by PhillyJeff on Sat May 17, 2014 at 03:39:44 PM PDT

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      •  depends how you keep that brush (1+ / 0-)
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        mine lives in a cup in a closed drawer in the vanity.

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        by BlackSheep1 on Wed May 14, 2014 at 05:19:54 PM PDT

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      •  Even if you (0+ / 0-)

        Close the lid before you flush, and the toothbrush is 4-5 feet away?

        We are all students and teachers. I often ask myself: "What did I come here to learn, and what did I come to teach?"

        by nerafinator on Thu May 15, 2014 at 01:00:09 PM PDT

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  •  These laws shouldn't even be (15+ / 0-)

    necessary.  We're so ridiculously Victorian in this country.

  •  It's all of apiece. (14+ / 0-)

    The restriction of birth control and legal abortion, the intensifying age-ism and looks-ism that women endure in all spheres of public life, the restriction of breast-feeding women in public is all part of a common fabric of oppression.

    It is all supposed to drive women from participation in society in any but traditional gender roles.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Wed May 14, 2014 at 12:25:14 PM PDT

    •  I can't think of anything more gender (1+ / 0-)
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      traditionally than breast feeding.

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      by Smoh on Thu May 15, 2014 at 04:41:51 AM PDT

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      •  Breastfeeding "on the go," (1+ / 0-)
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        at work, in a public place--anywhere a mother is visible outside the home--is NOT gender-traditional.

        Get real.

        It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

        by karmsy on Thu May 15, 2014 at 06:18:34 AM PDT

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    •  I thought they were gearing up to make women (2+ / 0-)
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      accept the fact that we are being replaced by plastic sex robots that never get old or fart.

      "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

      by GreenMother on Sat May 17, 2014 at 03:36:18 PM PDT

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  •  This is the second time today I'm quoting (12+ / 0-)

    George Carlin:

    Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn---they will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.

    You can't spell CRAZY without R-AZ.

    by rb608 on Wed May 14, 2014 at 01:20:16 PM PDT

    •  Do you know how long ago he actually said this? (2+ / 0-)
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      I don't.
      It's utterly sad to me that we have not progressed 1 inch since he made this comment.

      The other night I wanted All About Ann....also sad....she made brilliant observations decades ago...yet we haven't progressed 1 inch on most of them.

  •  More Christian sharia at work. It sure would (4+ / 0-)

    be nice if we could get all of that twisted shit off of the books at all levels.

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Wed May 14, 2014 at 01:39:31 PM PDT

  •  More women (1+ / 0-)
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    need to vote for candidates that will take their concerns to heart, and those candidates can be either sex, conversely, either sex can also be ant-woman.

  •  I see more boob on beaches, (8+ / 0-)

    In the mall, on advertisements, than when a mother nurses her baby, but no one is horrified by that! I can't understand the cultural ban on public nursing, it makes no sense to equate feeding your baby with public nudity or indecent exposure. Do men have such little self control that the sight of nursing will snap what control they have and become overcome with lust, wantonly misusing the mother or some hapless woman who happens to be in the vicinity to slack his urges? Really,is that what we think?

    UID 100224 "I got a rock"-Charlie Brown

    by eashep on Wed May 14, 2014 at 02:09:11 PM PDT

  •  Was it George Carlin who said (0+ / 0-)

    If you cut off a breast that is OK!! But if you kiss it.....Hot Damn, call the Police...or something like that

  •  You clearly don't understand what it means.... (5+ / 0-) live in America.

    You have the right to keep and bear arms whose main function is distributing violent death and dismemberment.

    You don't have the right to bare breasts when they are functioning to sustain and nurture life.

    Just ask any "Pro-life" Conservative Christian about it; their explanation of why they believe their kids should see guns but not see bare breasts in public, will be very educational.

    In the Fox News Christian Nation, public schools won't teach sex education and evolution; instead they'll have an NRA sponsored Shots for Tots: Gunz in Schoolz program.

    by xynz on Wed May 14, 2014 at 02:58:39 PM PDT

  •  I never understood the (3+ / 0-)
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    horrifying experience of someone breastfeeding in front of you ??!?! The most natural thing that in most countries I know is performed in public buses, in parks, in museums, in restaurants... and here some perverts have to make it a thing to hide. Hiding feeding babies!!!

  •  Texas law already protects public breastfeeding (6+ / 0-)

    If you are legally permitted to be somewhere, you can breastfeed there.

    •  First piece of legal fact I've seen (4+ / 0-)
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      in this discussion.

      Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., Ch. 600, SS1, eff. Aug . 28, 1995.
      Sec. 165.002. RIGHT TO BREAST-FEED. A mother is entitled to breast-feed her baby in any location in which the mother is authorized to be.
      Thanks.  I know there are cultural problems that some people have here, but I recalled the law in Texas being simple and clear.

      I guess the current effort is to emphasize and make interference with breast-feeding illegal.


      Sec. 165.002.  RIGHT TO BREAST-FEED.  (a)  A mother is
           entitled to breast-feed her baby in any location in which the mother
           and the child is are otherwise authorized to be.  A mother's
           authority to be in a location may not be revoked for the sole reason
           that she begins to breast-feed.
                  (b)  A person may not interfere with or restrict the right of
           a mother to breast-feed in accordance with this section.
      This may be an improvement.  But mothers have the right to breast-feed now, already in Texas.

      I'm part of the "bedwetting bunch of website Democrat base people (DKos)." - Rush Limbaugh, 10/16/2012 Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

      by tom 47 on Wed May 14, 2014 at 07:44:54 PM PDT

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      •  But can they carry sanitary napkins in their purse (1+ / 0-)
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        Seriously, glad to know Texas isn't totally insane and that from an Okie (sigh).

        "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

        by GreenMother on Sat May 17, 2014 at 03:39:17 PM PDT

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  •  Them Muslims have the right idea... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... by keepin' their wimmin folk inside at ALL times, then accompanied by a male relative should they need to leave the pris... house.

    Xians are aching to steal all the innovations of Wahhabi-style Islam.

  •  Christo-Fascists Disgust Me (2+ / 0-)
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    Tired of being treated like a second class citizen just because you were born a woman? Vote democratic in November and throw these d-bags out on their a$$.

  •  like most of us (4+ / 0-)
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    I've  probably seen hundreds of women breastfeeding in public by now (I live in the city). I have Never seen a nipple. I'm not looking but in order to be genuinely offended you'd have to be in order to see any identifiable breast (not just a flash of skin) while a woman feeds her baby. And that begs the question-why are you looking so intently?

    Usually the baby's head blocks the breast. Very large chested women will end up showing some of their breast if you look. Most women cover as mentioned with a blanket etc but I don't think they should have to and sometimes it is not possible anyway. It's hot for baby especially. Some babies will pull it down so it isn't feasible. And it isn't nice for them-no one would like a sheet pulled over their head for 15 min not able to see anything. We don't think it's ok to put a blanket over a babies head while he's in his crib on his side so it's only 6" inches away from his face-it's bizarre and feels wrong to do to him-so why is it ok for people to demand that mothers do this while breastfeeding? Older babies especially want/need to look around not just stare in one direction.

    I believe that the people who are offended by public breast feeding are offended or affronted only by the idea of it. Because you really can't see anything more usually than what you would see on the beach. I ask them to please just look away if you have a problem with a baby eating in the way the American Academy of Pediatrics and the World Health Organization say is most desirable (breastfeeding on demand).

    When I was in N. Africa I saw numerous women breastfeeding in public. Yes, modest Muslim women with head covering and long pants/skirt and long sleeve tops even in the heat, had no issue with breastfeeding in public. I don't recall seeing anyone using a blanket etc to cover up the baby/breast, either. And I saw no one give them a second glance.

  •  I worked at the Children's Museum of Houston (3+ / 0-)
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    in the early 90s and people sometimes complained that women were breastfeeding in public.  And, no, I didn't ask anyone to stop breastfeeding, but told the tattler that it was okay for the mother to do so.

    There are lots of public places that no longer have any seating areas to just take a break from walking and standing.  The Houston Galleria used to have a seating area on the 2nd floor where I breastfed my daughter one time (15 years ago) and the only person who approached me was an older woman, maybe German, who basically said "good for you".  Now that spot is taken over by some play area and any open spots are taken over by vendor carts or food and beverage franchises.

    Logan Airport in Boston used to have a dismal nursing room off of one of its women's restrooms:  dark, dingy and a restaurant-type booth bench with torn vinyl cushions.  I hope when they remodeled they upgraded!

  •  Change is not always for the better. (2+ / 0-)
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    I am in my seventies.   I can remember riding on a public bus as a child.  It was not unusual then to see a Mother breast feeding her child.  It was a normal part of everyday life.

    I am reminded of the US Attorney General who had the breasts of a statue of Justice draped for he found it offensive.  Maybe this is payback for the permissive 60's.   The moral pendulum just keeps swinging from one extreme to the other. I think   we  are due for it to start swinging  back to a more moderate viewpoint.  Hope so.  

  •  I boycotted Macy's for a decade (2+ / 0-)
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    chickenfarmerwood, Munchkn

    after a shoe salesman threw me out of the shoe department for nursing (under a blanket, even) in a quiet corner behind the sale racks.

    And predictably, he did try to send me to the bathroom. "There's no decent place to nurse in there," I told him.

    "You can't just go into a stall?"

    "EWWWW. Would you eat your lunch on a public toilet?"

    Thanks to the folks who turned that salesman's suggestion into such a memorable image. This was 23 years ago. Didn't we all hope that things would be better than this by now?

  •  Silly people! (0+ / 0-)

    Don't you realize the problem is breasts are primarily toys for men to play with and ogle?  Feed babies?  Pfft!

  •  Not only that... (2+ / 0-)
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    chickenfarmerwood, Munchkn

    ... have you ever opened up one of those 'baby changing stations'?  They're always empty and never restocked with new babies!  
    OK.  Jokes aside, I have always found it amazing that we came so close to transcending this immature attitude towards nudity with the hippie philosophy, going 'skyclad' was no big deal as well as 'skinny dipping', yet the pendulum has swung back so far the other way as repressive Christianity became fashionable again.  We may not get as far as Burkas, but we still have our Amish, Mennonite, and Mormon dress codes lingering in the background when we force students to adhere to school dress codes.  Plus, there's the 'professional' uniform code of suits and ties.  

    •  The Amish and Mennonites (2+ / 0-)
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      are far more practical than you give them credit for.  They know perfectly well what a mother's breasts are for, and would probably think you were crazy to object to their proper use.  I have personally witnessed Amish and Mennonite women breastfeeding in public.  No one paid attention or raised an eyebrow, as it should be.

  •  A Million Years Ago (1+ / 0-)
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    I worked as a topless performer in San Francisco's North Beach. After I had a baby the next year. I was asked to leave a restaurant ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY FORMER WORKPLACE for breastfeeding the kid while we waited for our dinner. You should know that I had covered my exposed breast with a shawl. Far less skin was showing than when people paid to ogle me at the nightclub.

  •  Texas.... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...the Lone Neuron State.

  •  breastfeeding (3+ / 0-)
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    chickenfarmerwood, Maerzie, Munchkn

    Why can any woman wear clothes that have her breasts falling out all around and no one comments, but a woman breastfeeding a baby is considered a scandalous sight?  By the way, the purpose of breasts is to produce milk to nourish babies.

    •  Because then it's for enterainment purposes only (0+ / 0-)

      DUH ;)

      I wish I were making a joke, but sadly...

      "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

      by GreenMother on Sat May 17, 2014 at 03:41:37 PM PDT

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    •  Exactly- it's not part of the script (0+ / 0-)

      It's not that we women are allowed to dress in a way that invokes sexual interest, rather, we are supposed to. Based on ads and magazines, we find out that dressing sexy gives us power, freedom, and hot men.

      But after we have gone about carefully dressing ourselves and our boobs for however many years, uncovering just the right % of skin including cleavage on the proper occasions, presumably meeting our professional and personal goals, when it comes time to use them for what they were made for, nope! That is just not included in the role we are supposed to play.

      And seeing breasts being used in that way is outside of scripts that other people find acceptable, therefore they feel "offended", I would say, challenged.

  •  The religious right is so pathetic,,,, (1+ / 0-)
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    they try to deny that humans are biological organisms with all natural bodily functions.

  •  Breast Feeding (0+ / 0-)

    Ah, Texas! On the cutting edge of the 17th century.

  •  When I had my children in the 70's, breastfeeding (2+ / 0-)
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    was encouraged and I never had an issue with doing so in public.  Yes, you can cover with something, but kids will sometimes pull off the cover.  The top part of the breast at most was all that was exposed.  I have seen more skin then that in some peoples clothes and no one objects to that.  Look at some of the dresses women wear to the Oscars!  Some of Cher's outfits!  Those who object need to get a life, and if it were me I would tell them so!  By the way, my husband was in the military, we were stationed in Spain, a catholic country and no one there objected either.  It was considered natural and right to breastfeed.  We had a strong LaLeche legue  on the base too.  

  •  Why do they have to breast feed in my restroom? (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not a breastesist. I just don't want to see little lips on bulbous hippies at my games. Your pal, Donnie Osamasman, jumping the snark.

    "You think this is bad. This ain't bad.," said the hobo to Billy Pilgrim on the train to Auschwitz in Slaughterhouse Five.

    by drfaustroll on Thu May 15, 2014 at 05:39:12 PM PDT

  •  Even a 5th Grader knows this is wrong! (1+ / 0-)
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    I was reading this diary when my 11 year old daughter walked over and saw the photo of the woman breastfeeding.  She immediately asked me this:

    "Why is that woman feeding her baby in a toilet?!"

    Yes folks... my 11 yr old 5th grader is definitely smarter than most politicians.

    What a sad, sad state of affairs....  sigh

  •  Would you eat in a public restroom? (3+ / 0-)
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    Munchkn, Hholly, enufenuf

    The ad campaign is right on point. Breastfeeding is not disgusting and dirty and shouldn't be associated with toilets!

    I once got to use that line in real life. I was at a zoo with my family on a Sunday and sat down on a park bench to nurse my son. A man watched me with a very sour expression and then stepped up and said "there's a public restroom right over there!" To which I replied "do you take your meals on the toilet?" He walked away frowning, saying "And on the Lord's Day!" And I said "Do you think Mary breastfed Jesus in a public restroom?"

    Nothing like getting an opportunity for a good one-liner!

    "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity."~~~ Horace Mann

    by nutmegan on Thu May 15, 2014 at 07:38:20 PM PDT

  •  It only takes a "little" brains! (0+ / 0-)

    I breastfed all 4 of my babies in public, during an era (the 60's) when I was a REAL "oddball" to be a breastfeeding Mom!! Bottle feeding was the popular way that doctors advised, as they had learned almost NOTHING about breastfeeding in Medical school.  Never once did I nurse any of my babies in a bathroom or toilet!  All it takes is a "little" brains and discretion.  Of course, if these women had their babies while still in high school, already they have announced that they have no brains or discretion!

    In order to nurse an infant in public, it is NEVER necessary to flip out a breast in public and announce to the world what you are doing.  I do believe some women intentionally and very unnecessarily flaunt their breasts, instead of even attempting to be discreet because they WANT or NEED to get that attention..  I have nursed my babies almost anywhere you can name, in public.  Yes, including Church.  For crying out loud, nobody even has a clue what one is doing, IF the brain is used.

    Even in very warm weather, babies can be wrapped in a receiving blanket.  If the Mom isn't bright enough to nurse without drawing attention, she needs to practice at home, in front of a mirror.  Feeding a baby is the most natural thing in the world, but in our repressed culture, where breasts are only revered as a sexual commodity, we must take that ignorance into consideration!  Appropriate clothing devised, or made, by the Mom, and a receiving blanket, makes breastfeeding imperceptible, even to someone TRYING to tell if a Mom is nursing the baby.

    Why would any THINKING woman pull her shirt down from the shoulder, sitting in a filthy toilet stall, exposing her bra (never necessary), when, common sense tells her it is easier to lift her shirt up from the bottom, leaving her bra and breast covered by the rest of the shirt, and any covering (planned ahead) for the baby??  But that's too easy and sensible!  We can make it as clumsy and awkward, and tasteless as any observers want, but NONE of that is ever needed, by thinking, LOVING, Moms!  However, flipping out a breast in public will ALWAYS draw as much attention as that person needs!  I nursed 4 babies until they were weaned to a cup, and nobody ever had a clue that I was fooling them all!  People who want attention, draw attention!

    •  This was the single most helpful advice I got (3+ / 0-)
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      from the breastfeeding class I took before girl #1.

      it is easier to lift her shirt up from the bottom, leaving her bra and breast covered by the rest of the shirt
      So simple. I stocked up on 2 piece outfits, from formal dresses for weddings to bathing suits.
      I also nursed all 4 of mine just about everywhere,mid 90's through mid 2000's. Although I admit it got easier with each successive baby. Yes, even church, where it was the priest that caught me sneaking to the back to nurse who said "You can stay right in the pew to nurse, don't let any prudes chase you out."

      Oh for crying out loud!

      by 4mygirls on Sat May 17, 2014 at 12:46:52 PM PDT

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    •  again with the blanket. (3+ / 0-)
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      Do you stick your head under a blanket to eat? A mouth can be a sexual orifice after all, how dare you use it in public.
      My son would not tolerate a blanket. And as for women "flaunting what they're doing" why should you care? Want to slut shame a little more? Maybe they don't know how to pull it off because no one taught them since this country is so bottle centric.
      And even if they do want to show off that they're feeding their kid who gives a damn.
      Fuck coddling the ignorant, they can deal with it.

  •  Breastfeeding (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans don't want women to have control of their reproductive system so they against employer-employee health insurance paying for birth control which reduces the number of abortions that occur, when a woman gets pregnant because she could not get birth control pills and or etc, they don't her to be to get an abortion. Then once a baby is born they don't want them to eat if they are being breast fed in public or clean places if if is their time to eat. They cut food stamps so when they start eating food other than breast milk   they don't get healthy food or they don't get any food.
    Republican-Tea party male  politicans  should just go ahead and say what  we  know they say privately,



  •  There is an argument that hiding breastfeeding (0+ / 0-)

    is counter-productive.  It makes it seem shameful when it is anything but.  I tend to agree.  Nurse proudly!

  •  God forbid we should EVER see (0+ / 0-)


    excuse me for the rant but

    GOD THE WORLD IS INSANE. In-sane. Breasts are perfectly fine to see, they won't turn you into stone like the Medusa. OK, crazy people?

  •  Where's that teat? (0+ / 0-)

    My first thought on breast feeding is what is indecent about it? My second is what century are the people that find it indecent from?
    Anyone that finds breast feeding a problem has some serious issues.

    Young children might be curious and teens can be frustrating with their idiocy.

    An infant must eat and does not care where they are at that time. If any adult can't handle it they are free to relocate and not make demands on those around them.

    I am amused how the righteous right attaches some prurient aspects to breast feeding.

    No country can be both ignorant and free - Thomas Jefferson

    by fjb on Fri May 16, 2014 at 02:21:12 AM PDT

  •  Discrimination of the Highest Degree (2+ / 0-)
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    enufenuf, catilinus

    This happened to my wife 32 years ago when showing the nipple or areola FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER was considered an illegal and indecent act.  That law in NC was finally changed and a breastfeeding mother no longer had to worry about a citation when nourishing her offspring, thank you very much.  I guess that if the mother is locked in a stall in the bathroom, she can't "offend" anyone.  This is 2014 and instead of going forward in truth and liberation, we are going backwards and downward into a negative spiral of prejudice, isolation and self-centeredness that will lead to discrimination and oppression which are becoming, sadly, the hallmarks of our nation and society.

  •  Breast feeding in Church - Vienna (1+ / 0-)
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    I have a photo of a woman breastfeeding in church - its a painting, fresco, on the ceiling of Karlskirche (St. Charles Boremeo).  

    The church/cathedral was constructed in 1739.  Let me know where to send the JPEG and you can post it.  It is a huge fresco on the ceiling right next to a painting of Jesus and God.  Very beautiful.  I saw it and thought - must be natural - and okay!  

    Yes - even in church.

  •  Okay, has anyone looked at art from the 18th and (4+ / 0-)
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    19th Centuries? Plenty of visible boobs, right? Even the Victorians weren't as uptight about women's breasts as Americans are today.
      Why? Because in Victorian times, everyone realized that babies had to be breast fed. It's only with the arrival of bottle feeding that it even became possible for babies to be fed without mothers showing their breasts.
       There is nothing wrong with breast feeding babies in public.
        Laws against it are stupid.

  •  Creeping Gerberism (5+ / 0-)
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    A formerly American-owned company headquartered in Fremont, Michigan, Gerber is now a subsidiary of Nestlé Group.
    A boycott was launched in the United States on July 7, 1977, against the Swiss-based Nestlé corporation. It spread in the United States, and expanded into Europe in the early 1980s. It was prompted by concern about Nestlé's "aggressive marketing" of breast milk substitutes, particularly in less economically developed countries (LEDCs), which campaigners claim contributes to the unnecessary suffering and deaths of babies, largely among the poor

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Sat May 17, 2014 at 12:33:52 PM PDT

  •  I barely want to go in a public toilet (3+ / 0-)
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    I can't imagine forcing someone else to serve food or eat there.  

    The next time one of these ridiculous folks suggest a toilet is an appropriate place to breastfeed a baby,  I suggest they ask the waiter to serve them their meal not out in horrors of the public table but in the privacy of their own individual toilet, napkin in lap, balancing plate on their knees.  

    "What's fair for the goose, is fair for the gander."

    "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of these United States of America -9.75 -6.87

    by Uncle Moji on Sat May 17, 2014 at 12:38:52 PM PDT

  •  if Mary gets to do it, anyone can (3+ / 0-)
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    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Sat May 17, 2014 at 01:27:38 PM PDT

  •  Mammals, Mammary Glands, Evolution (2+ / 0-)
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    Oh--there's the problem or is just because it involves boobies that aren't being jiggled in the dollar store?

    "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

    by GreenMother on Sat May 17, 2014 at 03:22:17 PM PDT

  •  Texas law already guarantees the right (3+ / 0-)
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    to breastfeed in public. People can ask you to stop, but they can't make you.

    You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

    by Eric Stratton on Sat May 17, 2014 at 03:43:24 PM PDT

  •  I am sick to death (3+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne, ER Doc, Damnit Janet

    of the people who snark "Cover up!" or "it's private!" or "the moms can pump!" Yeah, well, they can go eat their lunch in a closet in the dark too. If they have a problem with seeing a mom breastfeeding in public, they are the ones with the problem, NOT the nursing mom. Even Pope Francis gets that! He said so…."Feed your baby. He is hungry!"…to a mother in the crowd whose baby was fussing and rooting around.

    I breastfed all four of my kids in the 70s, occasionally in public. Only once did I ever have an adverse reaction, and it was from another woman at an all-female meeting. Afterwards, a number of women apologized to me for the other woman's behavior. (Most of them were older, many Catholic and with multiple kids for whatever that's worth). Anybody who thinks breastfeeding a kid is about sex has a seriously nasty mind.

    Being "pro-life" means believing that every child born has a right to food, education, and access to health care.

    by Jilly W on Sat May 17, 2014 at 03:59:40 PM PDT

  •  It was common to see a mother feeding her infant (3+ / 0-)
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    on the bus, in a restaurant, and in other public places when I lived in Mexico in the 1950s.  The mother simply threw a rebozo over the baby and modesty was satisfied.  

    I can't imagine why anyone would make a fuss over something so simple and natural.  

    In Georgia, acting the fool with a gun is not only legal, it is encouraged by the governor and the state legislature.

    by Mayfly on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:03:38 PM PDT

  •  So-called pro-lifers are just anti-lady parts (0+ / 0-)

    At some point they're going to say women going around with arms and legs is slutty, too, because control.

  •  Ladies, listen up! (0+ / 0-)

    We'll all be fine!  We just need to follow a few simple rules - designed to ensure the comfort & well-being of all womankind &, indeed, all of society:

    1. NEVER leave the house while menstrating.  (You could attract bears!)

    2. Once you have become pregnant (but ONLY after you are legally married, obviously) NEVER leave the house.  The sight of a pregnant woman will cause some people to think of sex, making them very uncomfortable.  (Think of it as a romantic "time of confinement", like in the good old days.)

    3. Once your Bundle of Joy arrives, his or her's complete care & welfare will be in your hands.  You must breast feed your baby, as this is the healthiest option.  However, you cannot ever breast feed in public, as someone could see your breast, & that level of immodesty in a wife & mother is unacceptable.  (Much higher degrees of "immodesty" at the local strip club seem perfectly acceptable to your husband & his friends, but, hey, those women are someone else's wives & mothers.). And, even if you can manage to breast feed in public with complete modesty, the act alone will make some people uncomfortable because it will evoke thoughts of a sexual nature.  (Never mind that breast feeding is not sexual, it is simply a mother feeding her child).  No, to be safe you should NEVER leave the house until the child is weaned.

    Clearly, almost by virtue of the fact that you are women, it is obvious that much of your life will be spent in the home (first your father's & then your husband's).  This may seem, at first glance to be oppressive, or at least restrictive.  But, do not despair!  Given time I am confident you will come to see how truly liberating this all is...  No onerous career to waste away at; no distracting social life of your own, conflicting with marital obligations; and no big life decisions weighing on you, causing you to lose sleep, & beauty.

    Or, Ladies, we can start now: ban together & vote, en masse, at the local, state & national levels.  Spread the word & let it be known: We are mad as hell & we're not taking it anymore!  We demand: equal pay; control over our reproductive systems; the right to breast feed wherever we see fit; etc.

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