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O.K. first a disclaimer, my legs are a little laser burned from a recent treatment for my skin problem. So to treat the pain I've had an adult beverage or 3.

Back to topic, Little Caesars's Pizza is a national chain restaurant isn't it? I've been seeing a commercial on the TV for "Hot and ready peperoni pizza" for $5. I wouldn't eat a $5 dollar pizza if you paid me.

A decent pizza is hand thrown and accordingly costs much closer to $20 or more.

If I want a cheap crap pizza I will take a piece of French bread, or a hoagie roll spread some pizza sauce (from a jar) sprinkle it with shredded mozzarella cheese (not the pre-shredded stuff, but use my own shredder) and top it with pepperoni or what have you.

So does this make me a Pizza bigot that considers Sbarro just O.K.? But anything called deep dish or crazy crust too cheap crap to eat?

Or is Pizza already cheap crap food that reduces me below the level of a true foodie and unworthy of even being considered fussy about what I eat?

(Side note writing this has distracted me from the burn enough that I think I feel much better! :)

So either sorry to bother you or thanks for reading!

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  •  After enough adult beverages (3+ / 0-)
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    katrinka, dougymi, tuesdayschilde

    The bigots and non bigots are a lot easier to sort out.

    But hey, if I had the money I would go for the $20 pizza.

  •  Ummm....you're not trashing real Chicago pizza, (7+ / 0-)

    that would not be wise.

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    by zenbassoon on Thu May 15, 2014 at 09:34:39 PM PDT

  •  I make my own (4+ / 0-)

    and I spend about $10 just for ingredients. Plus I never got that "throwing" thing down too good!

    Beware a $5 pizza.

  •  Grrr (2+ / 0-)
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    EastcoastChick, OleHippieChick

    I was going to go to bed WITHOUT a bedtime snack tonight! So, how do you heat the french bread/hoagie pizza? Microwave? Toaster over? Does provolone work as well as mozzarella? Do I have to toast the bread first? This is getting complicated, maybe I'll just order some Little Caesars :)

  •  Pizza has become rather ubiquitous ... (3+ / 0-)
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    katrinka, Lepanto, EastcoastChick

    in America. Everyone wants a piece of the action, and there is absolutely no standard for what can be called a pizza. A hot dog is technically a pizza; dough, something liquidy on it (ketchup, mustard), and meat (if you can call a 'frank' meat).
    I'm not even sure what we do in America can be called eating anymore. Does that make me an eating bigot?


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    by glb3 on Thu May 15, 2014 at 09:56:07 PM PDT

  •  Pizza heals (3+ / 0-)
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    katrinka, Russ Jarmusch, HugoDog

    and especially if you eat it with "The Healer" by John Lee Hooker and Carlos Santana. Sir/Madam, you are no bigot.

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    by weezilgirl on Thu May 15, 2014 at 10:04:56 PM PDT

  •  We get real pizza for less than $20 (6+ / 0-)

    Even here in our little town in the boonies we can get a decent, hand-made, scratch-crust pizza with hand-made scratch sauce and decent toppings for less than $20 at our hole-in-the-wall pizza joint.

    But I agree with you, you could not pay me to eat a Little Caesar's pizza.

    In the 70s I used to eat Pizza Hut (back when they made the dough in house). When they switched to frozen crusts I swore off and haven't had a chain pizza since that I can recall. Oh, wait, one time the grandkids ordered a delivery from Vocelli, a small chain started by a Turk whose family lived in Pittsburgh. It wasn't half bad.

  •  What if you want (4+ / 0-)
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    Kevskos, Youffraita, wesmorgan1, unfangus

    A cheap crap pizza with zero waiting when you have no access to a kitchen?

  •  A couple pizza observations... (7+ / 0-)

    (1) Irons are not pizza slice shaped by accident.  Inverted, they make a great way to reheat cold pizza.  So says a college student I once knew.

    (2)  The Okinawans often put corn on pizza.  My official position is that it's weird, but secretly I kinda like it.

    (3)  If I buy Hot-N-Ready pizza for the kids, I can afford the good stuff for me and my wife.  Teenagers aren't generally known to be foodies.

    (4)  If I can theoretically make better pizza at home, why do I buy crap from Dominoes?  Maybe it has something to do with the time value of money.  Or the monetary value of time.

    (5)  Blogging while drinking Pasek Cellars Cranberry Wine has nothing to do with pizza, but it sure is fun.  Until tomorrow.

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    by DaveinBremerton on Thu May 15, 2014 at 10:48:48 PM PDT

  •  It's not even pizza if it's not baked in a brick (2+ / 0-)
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    katrinka, SamanthaCarter

    wood-fed oven.

    As for the topping, there should never be so much as to make the dough soggy instead of crispy.

    I'm no pizza biggot, but all commercially made pizza is a pile of shit.

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    by Lepanto on Thu May 15, 2014 at 10:53:21 PM PDT

  •  Any pizza can be great (3+ / 0-)

    as long as you make it yourself from top ingredients. Deep dish or Roman-style doesn't matter.

    Fresh mozzarella makes a difference (and it doesn't shred easily: I usually just slice it).

    If this makes me a pizza bigot, so be it. I admit to buying a commercial slice now and then from an independent pizza purveyor near work: their crusts are uneven (sometimes perfect, sometimes not) but their sauce is always good and they have really nice anchovies.

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    by Youffraita on Thu May 15, 2014 at 11:06:32 PM PDT

  •  As a traveler, I've eaten pizza (5+ / 0-)

    in a lot of places from China to Alaska. The chain franchises are the most consistent, but my preference, when on the rare occasion that I'm not on the road, is home made.

    I grew up in a very Italian neighborhood and one of the first things I learned about making a good pizza is you use a good quality canned whole plum tomatoes, add fresh basil, oregano and garlic for the sauce (no cooking and use your hands to squish the tomatoes) and top it with a quality, fresh if you can get it, mozzarella. If you can't make your own pizza dough, most grocery stores sell it already made in the dairy, frozen or bakery section.

    I like pizza margherita with fresh thin sliced plum tomatoes, mozzarella and basil drizzled with garlic infused olive oil.

    But in a pinch, if there are no other options, Little Caesar's over Pizza Hut or Papa John's in a heartbeat.

    Feel better

    •  I saw on Flying Wild Alaska (1+ / 0-)
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      SamanthaCarter

      Where they baked a pizza in a little hut on the tundra and put it in a box. Other than the fact the ingredients probably weren't very fresh, it looked OK.

      Then they strapped it on the back of a snowmobile, and drove it to the village airport. Where it was handed off to a charter pilot, who packed it with the luggage and flew it 50 miles to another village. Where it was met and delivered to the recipient on another snowmobile.

      By the time it finally arrived at someone's table, it must have been a very cold (perhaps frozen), $100 pizza. But I can see how a couple months into an Alaska winter, I might spring for $100 for that pizza.

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      by craiger on Fri May 16, 2014 at 01:41:34 AM PDT

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    •  Yes on the squished uncooked plum tomatoes (1+ / 0-)
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      SamanthaCarter

      with the basil garlic and oregano. We put this on top of the already olive oil drizzled dough and top lightly with mozzarella and grated Parmesan. We also make this in a square pan. This duplicates my Italian mother-in-laws pizza perfectly.

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      by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Fri May 16, 2014 at 05:03:30 AM PDT

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  •  Home Made Pizza (0+ / 0-)

    is the best, but I don't make mine cheap. I like to start by making my own crust and stuffing it with Peperoni and string cheese, then add the toppings that I like best. I learned to make pizza in a place near the center of Andover, Massachusetts, just down the street from Phillips Academy (a rich prep school), but after awhile I put together my own creations. At one time I learned a lot about making pizza, but now I do it for only my family. Plus for those that want to make their own home made pizza, place provolone below the mozzarella, because it just tastes better that way.

  •  Little Caesars is the worst of a bad lot... (2+ / 0-)
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    EastcoastChick, OleHippieChick

    I'm a snob about pizza - there is NO real pizza other than that made in the north eastern US, from Baltimore through Boston, with the 2 main foci being NYC and Philadelphia.

    I live about 45 miles from Philly, and have several wonderful small pizza and sandwich shops within a mile of my house, including THE best Italian restaurant I have ever worshiped at...I have not had chain store pizza for a long time, and have no plan to get it ever again...and I am adult beverage free at this time.

    Boycott all republican owned businesses-see how they like THAT.

    by old mark on Fri May 16, 2014 at 04:01:15 AM PDT

    •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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      old mark, OleHippieChick

      being from the east coast and all ;)  

      The best pizza to be had is in the local hole in the wall joint in Philly, Jersey or NYC.  

      I used to live in a burb in Jersey where my afterwork reward was either a couple of slices or a FRIED panzarotti.  The place was just a store front with two useless tables for you to sit while you waited for your order.  It didn't look very clean, but who cared, the pizza ROCKED!  

      Shit, now I think I feel inspired to take a drive.

  •  I gave on finding decent pizza for sale. (0+ / 0-)

    At any price.

    I make my own.

  •  I make my own (3+ / 0-)
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    Rileycat, itsjim, OleHippieChick

    I'm not a snob when it comes to the whole New York vs Chicago vs wherever.

    Because, of course, the only real pizza is whatever pizza happened to be like where you grew up.

    I can do a New York, Chicago, Neapolitan, Sicilian, St. Louis style (there is such a thing), Detroit style (likewise) or even California.

    My only rule is not to pile too many toppings on any given pizza. Pizza should be about the crust and a good crust should be able to stand on its own.

    Did I mention that I really like pizza?

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    by Major Kong on Fri May 16, 2014 at 04:53:36 AM PDT

  •  Little Caesar's is garbage. (2+ / 0-)
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    JosephK74, Bluefin

    But, I remember when it wasn't. My first job, at age 15, was working at a local Little Caesar's pizza joint. This was back in 1975, before Mike Ilitch took the chain national and there were only a handful of stores around the Detroit area. Back then, every store kind of did its own thing. We made everything from scratch. We made the dough fresh, made the sauce, grated the cheese, sliced the peperoni and veggies. We hand tossed the dough and baked the pies in real pizza ovens. Even so, while the pizza at our store was pretty damned good, it was still considered second rate when compared to the local Mom and Pop joints around town, most of which are gone now. Seems that the down side to working hard to send your kids to college was that they didn't want to take over the family business.

    About 14 years ago, I moved my family out to "the country," which is really old farmland that has been subdivided and turned into a bedroom community. Unfortunately, there are no old family businesses that have been around for generations and have perfected their craft. No old bakeries, no meat or produce markets, and definitely no pizzerias. Everything is franchised. Every year Pizza Hut takes 1st or 2nd place in the pizza division of the local "best restaurant poll. That's how bad it is. The only place to get a good pizza around here is my kitchen. Of course that's the only place around here to get a good meal of any kind.

    So endith the trick.

    by itsjim on Fri May 16, 2014 at 06:14:39 AM PDT

    •  Try Vitale's Restaurant on Grosse Isle and (0+ / 0-)

      Frankie's on High St. in Ecorse if it's still there; it's been decades since I spent any time around there.
      The Italian food and pizza were excellent, now if I could only remember the Chicago and St. Louis places we used to pig out at.

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      by Bluefin on Fri May 16, 2014 at 02:42:25 PM PDT

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  •  Little Siezures Pizza (0+ / 0-)

    is what I call "Kibbles and bits" pizza, it comes mostly from a can and is largely indistinguishable from dog food

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    by fauxrs on Fri May 16, 2014 at 06:21:05 AM PDT

  •  pizza has 4 ingredients: (0+ / 0-)

    crust (the thinner and crispier the better),
    tomato sauce,
    mozzarella, and
    italian sausage.
    (i will cop to an occasional mushroom, but THAT'S IT!!!)
    and yes, it must be handmade.

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    by mellowjohn on Fri May 16, 2014 at 06:29:45 AM PDT

  •  Where's your favorite pizza place (0+ / 0-)

    For me, there's a Holy Trinity, all in New Haven, Ct.

    Sally's, Pepe's and Modern Apizza.

    There's a place here in San Diego that's pretty good, that advertises "New Haven Style" pies.  I think they tried to model there oven after Sally's. One difference is that in the San Diego place, aside from being filled with hipsters, is that the staff don't ask you You want "Mutz?" (rhymes with looks) on the pie, or sometimes just "Mutz?". They also don't pronounce "Apizza" uhpeetz.

    I still dream about Modern's Broccoli and Garlic, or Pepe's Clam, pies.

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    by HugoDog on Fri May 16, 2014 at 10:23:21 AM PDT

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