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..."The Battle for Ukraine," and I am very confused.  I'm an American, and I want to love my country.  I'm supposed to love my country.  I want to love all of humanity.  But this terrible thing happening in Ukraine is just, I'm sorry, but all I can say is that it is just tearing me apart.  

This Frontline program was wonderfully put together, cinematographically well done, but there was something very, very wrong.  It appeared that there were giant holes, enormous pieces of information simply left out.  What was, according to my sources, a Right Sector attack on Odessa, for example, with some 40 persons burned alive in the labor building (just one piece of the action), was completely omitted from the coverage.  And this was not all; a great deal more was omitted.

I will admit that my ability to follow all the happenings has been quite restricted of late.  My TV gave out a month ago, so I have been forced to get my news online.  Sad to say, the US media does not provide live stream unless one has cable, which I can't afford.  So I had to go to the online source available--Russia Today.  Therefore much of my information has come from RT, and I have a very different intake of information than that found on ABC, CBS, NBC, and even PBS.

Dive with me into the orange infinity......

I have watched carefully though since the dissolution of the USSR, and I have witnessed how the US has violated it's agreements not to encroach on Russian space and has, in fact,  annexed more and more countries into NATO and surrounded the Great Bear with US bases.  If I were Russia, these actions would scare me, just as we were scared by the possibility of Russian missiles in Cuba.

I do feel very strongly that until we can grow to the point where we can both report and intake honestly, we are not making much progress toward the ability to resolve our differences without resort to bloodshed and possible annihilation.

Evolution demands that we do this.  We must grow and learn to resolve our differences without resort to bloodshed because...with the weaponry we now have, escalation is indeed a very DEAD end.  

We evolve together or die together.  Really simple.  Honesty, free of propaganda, comes first.

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  •  Tip Jar (20+ / 0-)

    "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

    by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 12:32:20 AM PDT

  •  It's past 12:30... (7+ / 0-)

    So I'm not hanging around to see what happens.  I'll check in in the AM to see if anyone commented and I'll respond then.  Thanks for reading.

    "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

    by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 12:38:13 AM PDT

    •  Hell, it's past 3:30 here (8+ / 0-)

      but syd, have you tried Al Jazeera? I've never gone there, but I think they have a U.S. branch now that covers international news. And my impression has been that they cover international news that nobody else here covers.

      You could also try the Guardian. And I'm not sure, but if Der Spiegel has an English-language site, that's another one I would look at.

      Wishing you the best.

      English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

      by Youffraita on Wed May 28, 2014 at 12:44:01 AM PDT

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      •  Thanks Youf... (4+ / 0-)

        Haven't been to AlJazeera in a while.  Used to watch them a lot.  Yes, for print, the Guardian, Spiegel, and the Independent are good.  But I was talking TV.

        "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

        by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 01:12:46 AM PDT

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        •  Oh. TV. (4+ / 0-)
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          Can't help: only have DSL. It's a lot cheaper than cable, and I can get a fair number of things, including Rachel and Jon, but...well, not everything.

          Sometimes I miss tv, but not too often.

          English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

          by Youffraita on Wed May 28, 2014 at 01:19:17 AM PDT

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        •  I've given up on all US news sources, including (2+ / 0-)
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          MSNBC, and watch Aljazeera America on TV and, via a VPN, streaming Aljazeera English, which is the original international version broadcast from Doha, London, or Kuala Lumpur depending on the time of day.  Once in a while I'll tune into Democracy Now! or NPR, but that's it for US-based sources for me.  (I do watch local news, usually on the local NBC outlet.)  Aljazeera is the best of the lot, though. As for online print, it's the Guardian, the Times (London), Die Welt (Hamburg), Die Presse (Vienna), and the Khaleej Times (Dubai -- to find out what's going on locally in the Gulf).  

          -7.13 / -6.97 "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -- Edmund Burke

          by GulfExpat on Wed May 28, 2014 at 07:06:00 AM PDT

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          •  Good suggestions... (0+ / 0-)

            ...GulfExpat.  Die Presse and Khaleej are new to me.  I'll check them out.  Thanks.

            "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

            by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 08:56:26 AM PDT

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  •  This is quite curious: (5+ / 0-)
    I have watched carefully though since the dissolution of the USSR, and I have witnessed how the US has violated it's agreements not to encroach on Russian space and has, in fact,  annexed more and more countries into NATO and surrounded the Great Bear with US bases.
    First, what 'agreements' are you referring to?
    Second, what new U.S. bases are you referring to?

    The only country I know of in Europe that has 'annexed' more territory in Europe is Russia (Crimea, South Ossetia, & Abkhazia).

    •  By the by (2+ / 0-)
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      I would surmise this blogger would be to your taste, should you find RT too tiresome, although he links to it frequently.

    •  Check in tomorrow afternoon... (2+ / 0-)
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      Smoh, nuclear winter solstice

      ...Pacific time, and I'll give a couple of links.  Can't do now.  But they do exist, and they are credible.  For example, one is a timeline rundown by Ray McGovern who was a CIA operative and who gave the "Daily Briefs" to 5 Presidents.  Sorry I'm too tired to do more now.

      "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

      by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 01:17:03 AM PDT

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      •  This seems a little weird it phrasing and (5+ / 0-)

        message.

        Though I agree with your final point and believe its a very important one, we have had bases around Russia since the end of WWII and given the main thrust of war is airpower, there is no reason for Russia to feel any more threatened than in the past.

        The fact you call Russia the 'Great Bear' is interesting to say the least. America is no angel and more likely to cause instability than anyone, but Russia is no better and would likely be as bad if they could afford it.

        That all said if you watch American media for news you are wasting your time unless you like it light and inane. As another poster stated, AJ is a very good news source, like BBC of old, and is one of the few available in the US that considers world events more important than some celebrity's melt down.

        Though I must admit my gut is telling me your spin is to give the impression Russia is doing the right thing trying to get Ukraine. I am not going to berate you because I am not convinced we treat people any better than Russia does.

        There are no nice imperialists...

        Join the DeRevolution: We are not trying to take the country, we are trying to take the country back. Get the money out of politics with public financed campaigns so 'Of the People, By the People and For the People' rings true again.

        by fToRrEeEsSt on Wed May 28, 2014 at 02:33:32 AM PDT

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        •  Yes (1+ / 0-)
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          Yes

          I am not going to berate you because I am not convinced we treat people any better than Russia does.

          There are no nice imperialists...

          Yes
          I do think Russia is doing the best it can faced with our 20 some years of pushing into Russian interests.  Sorry about that, but it is the way I see it.  But perhaps Russia's niceness is a result of recognizing their relative weakness in relation to the Great Eagle.

          "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

          by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 09:09:50 AM PDT

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          •  Russia has no more right to Ukraine (1+ / 0-)
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            than we do to Tijuana. The Russians are paranoid about their borders and they want Crimea. I think it is as simple as that.

            I don't compare the US to Russia because I don't compare onions to baseball bats, they are two different animals.

            O and Putin wants to be a Czar, IMO and is presiding over one of the most ugly repressions of LGBTQ people around.

            PS, unlike my German friends I don't hate the Russian people, I wish them well but they need new leadership.

            Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. They lie through their teeth with their head up their behind. You open up their hearts and here's what you'll find - Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. John Prine

            by high uintas on Wed May 28, 2014 at 11:33:46 AM PDT

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            •  Some correct statements... (0+ / 0-)

                Russia has no right to Ukraine.
                 The right to Crimea is arguable.
                 They are not oranges and baseball bats.  They are both
                      with interests in maintaining their states.
                 LGBTQ?  Should I bring up our rampant cop killings of
                       black youth?  No, because I don't see it as rel          to the issue at hand.

              "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

              by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 02:07:56 PM PDT

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              •  They can't be made better (0+ / 0-)

                cus we are bad. It just doesn't work that way. If little Johnny hits Cyndy it doesn't make it better cus some other guy was bad in the next town over.

                Putin is all about power and he is ruthless. If Jesus was our copilot he would still be a ruthless power monger, our behaviour doesn't excuse his.

                We aren't there, we are here. What is hard to see about that?I know where I am in relation to LGBTQ rights as well as where I stand on race, those positions give me right to judge Russia and Putin. The US as a whole has nothing to do with it.

                Our racial problems aren't made better or affected in any way by their homophobia. The reverse is true as well.

                Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. They lie through their teeth with their head up their behind. You open up their hearts and here's what you'll find - Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. John Prine

                by high uintas on Wed May 28, 2014 at 02:40:53 PM PDT

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                •  That's why... (1+ / 0-)
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                  ...I said it was irrelevant...or tried to before my machine gremlins cut me off.

                  I think, however, that the best you and I can come to is to agree to disagree.

                  I don't see it as you do, but I hope we can still be friendly even though I find so much fault with the USofA.

                  "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

                  by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 03:16:28 PM PDT

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                  •  O! dharmasyd of course we remain friendly (1+ / 0-)
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                    I don't mind sparring with someone, especially someone as smart and nice as you but it takes a hell of a lot for me to get pissed, lol.

                    I'm just an opinionated old crone and that is why I'm here.

                    I have to admit that my feelings about Russians are a bit tainted by my best friend who is a German.

                    She has such a bad taste for them and she is right on most things. I need to be more open minded I think.

                    Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. They lie through their teeth with their head up their behind. You open up their hearts and here's what you'll find - Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. John Prine

                    by high uintas on Wed May 28, 2014 at 09:49:06 PM PDT

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    •  You don't consider the expansion of NATO into (2+ / 0-)
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      previous Warsaw Pact countries a defacto form of annexation? Who is the primary funder and controller of NATO?

      How about the proposed American missile bases Turkey, Portugal, Poland, Romania and Spain? How about incorporation into the EU where borders become porous and laws and economic policy are shared?

      BTW, historically, Crimea was never a part of Ukraine. It was a part of Russia for hundreds of years.

    •  Valion...My links... (0+ / 0-)

      ...and responses are at the end of this thread or...
      Ray McGovern discusses the Wall Street Journal interview of Sergei Lavrov
      Thanks for participating.

      "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

      by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 08:59:40 AM PDT

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  •  OMG--what bull (12+ / 0-)

    So Frontline is somehow at fault for not parroting Russian government propaganda?

    Russia Today is a Russian government propaganda organ. On Russia Today, you are not going to hear anything about Russian genocide against the various peoples that occupy what Russia fancies as "Russian Space". On Russia Today, any group opposing Russian interests is going to be portrayed as "fascists". On Russia Today, you are not going to see Russian skinheads marauding in neighboring countries.

    "Russian space" just means other countries that Russia wants to dominate and wipe out. The indigenous people of eastern Europe have a right to defend themselves against Russian imperialism and to strike back at Russian forces working to destabilize the country. NATO's roll in helping formerly occupied countries defend themselves is something to be proud of.

    •  The evolution of consciousness... (0+ / 0-)

      ...in our relations with each other is not bull.  It is the mandate if we are to survive.

      "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

      by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 09:15:49 AM PDT

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  •  russia today (14+ / 0-)

    is funded by putin's government. if you think western media sucks, check out russia's rating by reporters without borders.

    meanwhile, ukraine held an election, a western leaning candidate won, russia says it will respect the results, and russian troops are pulling back from the eastern ukrainian border. it's not wine and roses, but there's reason for hope.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Wed May 28, 2014 at 02:35:38 AM PDT

  •  If you want more info (3+ / 0-)
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    ER Doc, Patango, dharmasyd

    try Dina Gustovsky... She is on Facebook along with CNBC.  She is also native Russian and she reports quite a few articles on the horror over there.

    Just how much Koch do Right Wingers want in their life? . United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Wed May 28, 2014 at 03:01:19 AM PDT

  •  I watch al Jazeera; I started during Operation (1+ / 0-)
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    dharmasyd

    Iraqi Freedom.  I also watch IBA TV on WHT cable channel to give me a different view of how the world operates

  •  Can't really comment, but want to say one (6+ / 0-)

    thing right now. Never rely just on one news outlet.
    RT as a sole source is not healthy news reading. Please try to get your sources from many, many different news outlets, preferably non-US based ones, if it comes to foreign political affairs.

    If you want I can make suggestions, but I haven't myself been able to put together for my news reading a healthy soup of different sources I could read online. I am in the progress to plan it, as I am going to get rid of Cable TV altogether.

    We know a hell of a lot, but we understand very little.- We are simply dramatically stupid - Manfred Max-Neef - I agree with him.

    by mimi on Wed May 28, 2014 at 04:45:49 AM PDT

    •  I do try to use many sources. (0+ / 0-)

      That is one of the blessings of being a retired senior.  I have all day everyday to study and do research.  Thanks mimi.

      "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

      by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 09:21:53 AM PDT

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      •  I am looking forward to do the same (0+ / 0-)

        in a couple of weeks. :)

        And my apologies I think I crossed over as imposing. I shouldn't have done so. It's just that sometimes I don't like the hosts on RT. So, it's me who is biased ... :)

        We know a hell of a lot, but we understand very little.- We are simply dramatically stupid - Manfred Max-Neef - I agree with him.

        by mimi on Wed May 28, 2014 at 07:51:26 PM PDT

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  •  Don't bother with news on TV. (6+ / 0-)

    It's usually propaganda (RT) or corporate-produced quasi-propaganda (most US media).

    As you said, there are good print options in English (The Guardian has had great reporting on Ukraine for months).

    Ukraine is fucked. They are caught between the Scylla of the USA (IMF bailout trap, massive US fossil fuel imports) and the Charybdis of Mr. Putin (Russian bailout trap, massive RUS fossil fuel imports). Either way, in the near future, things are going to suck for Ukrainians.

    American journalism can do its best to mythologize the victory of the "Chocolate King" oligarch as some amazing leap forward for wholesome Western values. But the real truth is far more grim and dreary.

    Spare a bit of your compassion for Ukrainians. They're going to need it.

  •  the spin... the spin.... (5+ / 0-)
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    dizzy !!

    I have watched carefully though since the dissolution of the USSR, and I have witnessed how the US has violated it's agreements not to encroach on Russian space and has, in fact,  annexed more and more countries into NATO and surrounded the Great Bear with US bases.
    That show was indeed excellent. Lots of good reporting with first hand accounts from both sides in eastern Ukraine. I think the reason why you had a problem with it is that it didn't fit with your preferred narrative.

    What did you think of the separatist dude who casually mentioned they were being paid by Russia?

    And what did you think of those Russian Chechnyans and Russians from Moscow who ended up in the hospital yesterday?

    KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

    by fcvaguy on Wed May 28, 2014 at 06:00:22 AM PDT

    •  I'm dizzy also... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...Yes.  I saw the "separatist dude."  So there are mercenaries on both sides.  That's my point.

      But no:

      I think the reason why you had a problem with it is that it didn't fit with your preferred narrative.
      No it doesn't fit my "preferred narrative."  My "preferred narrative'" is for dialogue, diplomacy.  It is not for guns and bloodshed.  

      "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

      by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 09:33:43 AM PDT

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      •  mercenaries on both sides? (2+ / 0-)
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        Who is Ukraine hiring to defend their own country? The CIA? or maybe Nazi zombies resurrected to do the job?

        I think everyone is for dialogue and diplomacy as the preferred approach. However, it should be obvious by now that Ukraine is under siege, with the "Big Bear" doing everything it can to take away big chunks of a sovereign country. My sense is we are seeing a change in tone and approach from Putin, precisely because of dialogue/diplomacy.

        KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

        by fcvaguy on Wed May 28, 2014 at 10:27:42 AM PDT

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        •  Gawd, I so agree with you (1+ / 0-)
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          I can't imagine being Ukrainian right now. I hope Putin is not pulling some other fresh hell out of his ass.

          Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. They lie through their teeth with their head up their behind. You open up their hearts and here's what you'll find - Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. John Prine

          by high uintas on Wed May 28, 2014 at 11:37:15 AM PDT

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        •  yes ... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...Mercenaries on both sides...

          1) Jeremy Scahill:  noted scholar on this subject.

          Blackwater: Shadow Army - YouTube

          A/ HREF="www.youtube.com/watch?v...">Blackwater, Xe, Academi

              (Sorry for this link. I'll get a better one when I come back in 1 hour)

          YouTube  4:26 mins.
          Mar 15, 2007 - Uploaded by The Nation
          The Nation's Jeremy Scahill describes the rise of Blackwater USA, the world's most powerful mercenary army.

          2. from Wikipedia:
          Academi is a private security services provider founded in 1997 by Erik Prince.[2][3] Formerly known as Blackwater,[4] the company was renamed "Xe Services" in 2009, and "Academi" in 2011.[5] The company was purchased in late 2010 by a group of private investors who changed the name to Academi and instituted a board of directors and new senior management. Prince retained the rights to the name Blackwater and has no affiliation with Academi.
          And -- because I am an accommodating person, I even supply you with the argument against-- Academi (aka: Blackwatwer, Xe)'s own Press Release disclaiming such accusations:
          Press Releases
          The Real Facts Behind Recent Reporting on ACADEMI in Ukraine
          May 15, 2014
          Some irresponsible news outlets have recently posted rumors that ACADEMI employees are operating in Ukraine. They are not and any reports to the contrary are completely false.
          And:  Why did John Brennan go to Ukraine just the weekend before the big "burn-em-alive" massacre in  Odessa?

          Finally:  Have you listened to the leaked tape of State Department Asst. Secretary Victoria Nuland saying "F**k the EU. and discussing who she, they, the State Dept., the U.S. (?) wanted to have in charge of Ukraine until the next election could be arranged -- and that's who we got -- Arseny Yatsenyuk!

          Next question!

          "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

          by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 02:00:41 PM PDT

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          •  Yes, most of us are aware of Blackwater (0+ / 0-)

            Do you have proof they were in Ukraine?

            And yes, the Nuland tape has been discussed at length here. Do you believe Yatsuniuk did a terrible job as interim prime minister? Can you point to some specifics? The man is a technocrat. He was able to hold his country together in a very level-headed, cool way as he worked through a crisis brought on his country by a bully.

            KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

            by fcvaguy on Wed May 28, 2014 at 03:45:10 PM PDT

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            •  I do not have... (0+ / 0-)

              ...incontrovertible proof that Blackwater nor any of it's subsequent incarnations were in Ukraine.  I don't think anybody has incontrovertible evidence of anything about Ukraine.  

              No, Yatsenyuk did not do a terrible job.  He simply maintained the status quo, the apparently US decision, until the 5/25 elections took place.

              This is the point.  No one can really say what is happening in Ukraine.  Because of this, my main point is that we need to pay very, very good and close attention.

              "... this is a severe existential threat to the Russian state itself, and has been designed as such." Daniel Patrick Welch

              by dharmasyd on Thu May 29, 2014 at 11:45:27 PM PDT

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  •  Remember when Russia wanted to join NATO? (4+ / 0-)
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    There was a brief comical moment when Yeltsin said that Russia should join NATO.  Imagine what would have happened if this really had come to pass.

    http://www.nytimes.com/...

  •  Ukraine’s Invisible People (2+ / 0-)
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    http://marknesop.wordpress.com/...

    Ukraine’s Invisible People

    Ukraine is a riddle to Westerners and Russians alike.
    ...
    To see Ukraine for what it really is means moving beyond viewing it from the familiar perspective of the pro-Western protesters in Kiev- the narrative of liberation from Russian influence as a path to progress. That view of Ukraine’s historic path is wrathful, present and powerful, yet far from universal.

    Putin’s greatest lever of power in Ukraine isn’t natural gas, military force or economic interdependence between the two countries. His influence stems from the fact – inconvenient to the West and Ukrainian ultra-nationalists – that the line separating Russia from Eastern Ukraine is blurry, familial and negated by a mutual history of unity. There is a line of state sovereignty but no firm line demarcates the spot where the Russian soul ends and the Ukrainian one begins.

    For thousands in Donetsk who cheered the raising of the Russian flag above their government buildings, liberation from Russia is not a cherished goal. The invisible people have to be recognized by the west and Kiev, or else the Ukraine we know today may fall into the ash-bin of history, and the long-simmering cultural divisions between the Eastern and Western parts of the country will be cemented as new state lines on the map of Europe – drawn with a quivering hand of discontent and rage by the people who were overlooked, condescended to and dismissed one too many times.

  •  Recommended: Johnson's Russia List, (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    dharmasyd, unfangus

    at russialist.org. It's a daily compendium of news and opinion on Russia, Ukraine, and the post-Soviet space, including translations of lots of Ukrainian and Russian sources. Very comprehensive, balanced, and eye-opening.

    By contrast the coverage of the Ukraine debacle in US mainstream media has been disgracefully shallow and often outright mendacious-- the most dishonest I can recall since the first months of Bush's campaign for the invasion of Iraq.

  •  well that turned out to be interesting. Thanks for (2+ / 0-)
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    the diary and thanks everybody for the links. Now I can at least know where to look when I start to look up this stuff.
        Meanwhile, I must say it's been an interesting change over fifteen years. I used to have to watch FreeSpeech TV on dish to get the actual Al-Jaazera, and I did, too, and tried to tell people how we were being dragged, pushed, lied-to and cake-walked into a profit-driven war by our Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld and that American TV was only showing 30 seconds of an hour-and-a-half speech that I had seen all of and found exceedingly offensive. (Great to know how glibly he pronounces troops to be "fungible". Happy Memorial Day.)
        For my troubles I was booed by other student journalists for even considering looking at Al-Jazeera.
        Now all these years later, A.J. has an American version, kinda like BBC News America presenting us with "news-lite" American-style but with a more intellectual sounding cover: we're smart. We watch foreign news.

    We are all pupils in the eyes of God.

    by nuclear winter solstice on Wed May 28, 2014 at 08:32:47 AM PDT

  •  Knowledge is power. (1+ / 0-)
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    dharmasyd

    No one gives away power. Well, maybe the Saker does,but he's quite religious and worries about morals and ethics and all that archaic sort of thing. In general you want knowledge, you work for it. You can find it, most all intelligence is open source. But the gate is not open. If the gate in open you know there's disinfo inside.

  •  Amazing responses... (0+ / 0-)

    ...and I thank all for stating your points.  Many good links and suggestions here.  Most of the links I already use, and I do try to get both sides.  That's why I miss the PBS News Hour and other network world news. As many of you perceive, though, I find US TV news to be mainly junk.  I include PBS in that statement, if not junk , then disturbingly irrelevant.  

    Although there are many sources for the historical events
    since the dissolution of the USSR, perhaps the clearest and most succinct is from Ray McGovern, former CIA and Daily Briefer of Presidents, and one of the founders of VIPS (Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity).

    You can find his short history McGovern discusses....

    This has links to a Wall Street Journal interview of Sergei Lavrov which McGovern uses as the base for his comments.

    Thanks for participating and thinking,

    "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

    by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 08:52:37 AM PDT

  •  I'm waiting for the snark tag.. (3+ / 0-)
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    dharmasyd, GrumpyOldGeek, aimeehs

    ..but it's not coming...

    RT, really?  Putin's propaganda outfit?

    •  Don't want you to... (1+ / 0-)
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      Johnny Q

      ...waste your time.  No snark tag coming.  As Ronald Reagan said: The Sandinistas = terrorists and the Contras = Freedom Fighters.

      And, one man's Terrorist is the other man's Freedom Fighter.

      Peace!

      "...a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules..." Daniel Ellsberg via John Pilger

      by dharmasyd on Wed May 28, 2014 at 09:46:00 AM PDT

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  •  I'm trying to change things. (0+ / 0-)

    I have developed Newsstream as a new way to get news.

    Please help support our crowd funding effort.

    Newsstream's Smart V News is designed to change the way we watch news.

    by Tomtech on Wed May 28, 2014 at 12:41:32 PM PDT

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