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Tim Radford at Climate News Network writes Aircon turns up the city heat:
Researchers in the US have identified a way in which city-dwellers are inadvertently stoking up the heat of the night – by installing air conditioners.

Because the cities are getting hotter as the climate changes, residents are increasingly investing in aircon systems − which discharge heat from offices and apartment blocks straight into the city air. And the vicious circle effect is that cities get still warmer, making air conditioning all the more attractive to residents.

According to scientists at Arizona State University, the air conditioning system is now having a measurable effect. During the days, the systems emit waste heat, but because the days are hot anyway, the difference is negligible. At night, heat from air conditioning systems now raises some urban temperatures by more than 1°C, they report in the Journal of Geophysical Research Atmospheres.

The team focused on the role of air conditioning systems in the metropolitan area of the city of Phoenix, which is in the Sonora desert in Arizona, and conditions in the summertime are harsh there anyway.

But, worldwide, normally warm countries are experiencing increasing extremes of heat, and conditions in cities have on occasion become lethal.

To cap this, cities are inevitably hotspots – and it’s not just because of global warming. The concentration of traffic, commuter systems, street and indoor lighting, central heating, light industry, tarmac, tiles, bricks, building activity and millions of people can raise temperatures as much as 5°C above the surrounding countryside.

At present, 87% of US households have air conditioning, and the US – which is not one of the warmer nations – uses more electricity to keep cool than all the other countries of the world combined. To keep the people of Phoenix cool during periods of extreme heat, air conditioning systems can consume more than half of total electricity needs, which puts a strain on power grids.

The Arizona scientists simulated a 10-day period of unusually hot weather between 10 July and 19 July, 2009, and used computer models and detailed readings from weather records to analyse the effect of air conditioning systems on local temperatures. Even though the biggest demand for air conditioning was in the daytime, they found the biggest difference was always at night.

“Our work demonstrates one Celsius degree local heating of urban atmospheres in hot and dry cities due to air conditioning use at night time,” said Francisco Salamanca, the report’s lead author. “This increase in outside air temperature in turn results in additional demands for air conditioning.

“Sustainable development and optimisation of electricity consumption would require turning wasted heat from air conditioning into useful energy, which can be used inside houses for various purposes—including, for example, water heaters.”[...]


Blast from the Past. At Daily Kos on this date in 2011Santorum accuses Romney of turning Massachusetts into a socialist state:

Looks like Rick Santorium isn't going to quitattacking Mitt Romney over the similarities between his health care plan in Massachusetts and President Obama's health care reform plan.

On Tuesday, Santorum said his biggest difference with Romney was over "ObamaCare" and Romney's mandate, saying that Romney's plan "violated" the "fundamental principles" of American capitalism. On Wednesday, he took things a step further, comparing Romney's plan not just to "Obamacare" but also to socialism:

There is going to be rationing of care simply because the 15-member commission is required under Obamacare to reduce reimbursement rates for doctors and hospitals which of course — we see it in Massachusetts, you see it in every socialized medicine country, where government run health care system, when they do that, it leads to lines, which leads to rationing.
Santorum's alternative? The Ryan Plan. So he'd just stop providing health care coverage to seniors, forcing them to get insurance in the private market—if they can find it. That way, there'll be no rationing. After all, you can't ration what you don't have.


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On today's Kagro in the Morning show, we had to reset the random/mass shooting clock, again. A Dem VA state senator resigned, changing partisan control of the senate, threatening ACA-funded Medicaid expansion. Greg Dworkin discussed these stories plus a wide-ranging roundup of Bergdahl stories, including Frank Rich's piece that folds in reference the late Michael Hastings' 2012 profile. Trouble-making gun accessories. No one could have predicted Alabama voters would start bringing guns to the polls. Please let this Craigslist ad be a joke! Taxpayer-subsidized bonuses for WalMart execs. For-profit ed company monetizes your volunteerism & skims from public libraries.



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  •  1,031,426 registered users on dKos now. (12+ / 0-)

    Here are the 10 newest registered users on dKos.  Hope to see their comments and diaries here soon!  (If they're not spammers.)

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  •  MSNBC: Virginia treachery & Vegas shooters (12+ / 0-)

    The big story was about the treacherous Virginia state senator who resigned his seat to give the GOP a majority and stop Medicaid expansion.  Chris talked with Michael Laris, Virginia Del. Mark Sickles (D), and Ryan Grim.  Rachel talked with Julian Walker.  Ari Melber, still filling in for Lawrence, talked with state senator Louise Lucas (D) and Ezra Klein.



    The other big news was finding out who were the couple behind the Las Vegas shooting.  Turns out they fit just about every single right-wing stereotype, from being NRA gun nuts to Ron/Rand Paul supporters to being Cliven Bundy supporters to supporting the Koch brothers' front groups.  Chris talked about this with Jon Ralston.  Rachel talked with Nathan Baca.  And Ed talked with Richard Cohen and Brian Schweitzer.




    Also, check out Lawrence O'Donnell's first appearance back on TV on Alex Wagner's show since his car accident!

    Chris also looked at the political attacks on Bowe Bergdahl.  He covered the status of migrant children detained in Arizona.  Chris also looked at Obama's main objectives coming into office, whether he's fulfilled them, and what he has left to do, talking with Tara Dowdell, Phillip Agnew, and Josh Barro.

    Rachel also had a quick preview of Eric Cantor's primary tomorrow.  She also blasted PolitiFact for again getting it so wrong on her reporting about Jessica Lynch's rescue last week.

    Ari also discussed Obama's move on student loans with Jennifer Wang and Dorian Warren.  He looked at the migrant children crisis with Mark Potter and Victoria DeFrancesco Soto.  He discussed the latest on Bridgegate with Brian Murphy.  And he talked about Maya Angelou with her former student Melissa Harris-Perry.

    Ed also talked about the GOP's anti-immigration rhetoric with Elliot Spagat and E.J. Dionne.  He also talked about Maya Angelou's memorial service with Jessica Care Moore.  He also blasted homophobic Disney comments from right-wing radio host Janet Porter.  And he talked with Jane Kleeb about Obama blasting climate change deniers.

  •  Predicting Poll for next Mass Shooting of the week (8+ / 0-)

    was suggested on a KOS Diary yesterday. I think the blogger was too optimistic. The Poll need to be daily if not hourly.

  •  I live in Tampa Bay FL where it's already been (6+ / 0-)

    in the high 80's-low 90's since April, with humidity to match. And I have not turned on my AC once so far this year.

    In the end, reality always wins.

    by Lenny Flank on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 08:35:22 PM PDT

    •  I live in Arizona. (2+ / 0-)
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      I don't believe I need to post the temperature but, if you really want to know it's 105. Haven't turned on my air yet either. Care to make a friendly wager? Of course we're bound to the honor system.
         We can make it interesting and throw in masturbation if you want. I haven't done that in years.
         For me it's like God pulling me over the side saying, "FFFT, big deal, anybody can do that."

      I want to be the next Secretary of Antics.

      by nellgwen on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 08:59:14 PM PDT

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    •  Glad that works for you. (2+ / 0-)
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      I can't sleep above 85 and 50% humidity.

      My husband has asthma and COPD, so he can't handle any deviation from about 70 very well.

      Help me get my utilities on! I can't eat this elephant by myself. http://www.gofundme.com/8xw014

      by Alexandra Lynch on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 11:57:31 PM PDT

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  •  Based on my Ron Paul friend's posts... (6+ / 0-)

    they don't seem to care that much about the dead cops in Las Vegas.  He posted this yesterday, though it may have been before the news of the shooting.  It's from Cop Block, comparing police to al-Qaeda terrorists.  And what do we do with terrorists holding bazookas?  Exactly.

    And then in posting about the murders, he wrote:

    My cause is that of peace and freedom. Not shooting innocent people for no reason (cops are not innocent).

    No cop is innocent...when you put on that costume and assert the job description of someone who uses violence against people who don't comply with your and the governments orders, you are far from innocent.

    And I mean the officers. That's like saying "oh no that nazi was innocent because he was a good guy and treated his family and friends well!" He still wore the costume and took that job.

    He then shared more bullshit from Christopher Cantwell that ALL cops are bad.  (And therefore... what?)

    The conversation then got derailed with comparisons to Palestinians.

    Remember, this guy is THE campaign manager for a libertarian Republican running for Congress here in Southern California.  I look forward to seeing Rep. Grace Napolitano (D) CRUSH him by about a 2:1 margin in November.

    •  Why don't you pass on these crazy rantings (4+ / 0-)
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      to the Napolitano campaign, BK?

      Sounds like they'd make for some great campaign ads.

      Remember, this guy is THE campaign manager for a libertarian Republican running for Congress here in Southern California.

      “I would like to get rid of the homophobes, sexists, and racists in our audience. I know they're out there and it really bothers me.” ― Kurt Cobain

      by Jeff Y on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 08:42:31 PM PDT

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  •  There goes the phony right wing (9+ / 0-)

    "good guys with a gun" argument.

    Two good guys (cops) with guns were mowed down while they ate lunch and the guy who got mowed down in Wal-Mart was also carrying a gun.

    The bullshit NRA/Republican talking points fall short again.

    “I would like to get rid of the homophobes, sexists, and racists in our audience. I know they're out there and it really bothers me.” ― Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 08:38:33 PM PDT

  •  Well, the cyclical nature temperatures... (4+ / 0-)
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    ...have been showing here in Chicago must be giving us sort of a break, since we've rarely had to turn the A/C on for more than two days a week this year.

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 08:41:59 PM PDT

  •  The tweet is gut-wrenching in its reality. n/t (5+ / 0-)
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    Dance lightly upon the Earth, Sing her songs with wild abandon, Smile upon all forms of Life ...and be well.

    by LinSea on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 08:42:33 PM PDT

  •  Saline County Debates Birth Control Again Tom.. (6+ / 0-)

    Again, tomorrow, Saline County will debate whether or not to accept grant money that allows them to provide Long Term Birth Control discounted through their health clinics.

    At debate are things like:  
    Can you see babies in a test tube?
    Is birth control abortion?
    Who determines this?

    We'll know more at 2PM.  :)

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    by Chris Reeves on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 08:43:32 PM PDT

  •  AC's make it cold inside and hot outside OMG (4+ / 0-)
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  •  We all knew this was coming, right? (9+ / 0-)
    Alex Jones loses it: Harry Reid staged ‘false flag’ Vegas shooting with MK-ULTRA mind control:

    Fringe radio host Alex Jones on Monday reacted to a Las Vegas shooting by blaming it on a globalist conspiracy to take away gun rights and other freedoms from Americans.

    On his Monday radio show, Jones immediately called the shooting a “false flag” operation by the U.S. government.

    The conservative radio host said that his “mind exploded with hundreds of data points” proving that the incident was staged when he first read about it on Sunday.

    “[Sen. Majority Leader] Harry Reid comes out and says we’re going to do something about this, these are domestic terrorists at the Bundy ranch, everybody needs to be arrested,” Jones continued. “I told you they’ve been building this behind the scenes, now they’re rolling it out.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/...

    tin foil hat photo: TinFoilHat1.gif TinFoilHat1.gif

    “I would like to get rid of the homophobes, sexists, and racists in our audience. I know they're out there and it really bothers me.” ― Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 08:58:38 PM PDT

    •  Harry Reid? Mind control?! (6+ / 0-)

      What's this guy smoking?

      Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

      by JeffW on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 09:04:36 PM PDT

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    •  You know what these fucking people remind me of? (6+ / 0-)

      My abusive ex. After he was done doing whatever he did to me. He would be rapt with remorse and start explaining himself. He would say things like..."I just get these feelings that come over me that you are going to leave me. And I wouldn't be able to take it. Blah, blah, blah."
         Well his self proclaiming prophecy came true, I did leave him.

         As for those two assassins in Las Vegas, they remind me of a Manson family member. That's what all these people are like to me. Manson family members.

        I went to the Americans Against The Tea Party website and found something I can't find now. I should have bookmarked it.
        The gist of it was to basically do to the gun manufacturers what Flush Rush has done to Rush. That is examine your 401K's and kick out any gun manufacturers that appear on the list. I think that is a good start. Hopefully that kind of thinking can lend itself broader action.
       

      I want to be the next Secretary of Antics.

      by nellgwen on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 09:14:59 PM PDT

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    •  He and Rushbo have similar clauses in their... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...contracts. They must, at least once a week, come up with something even more outrageously stupid (with bonuses if it's also sexist, racist or anti-gay-or-transgender) than they previously have come up with.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 09:37:10 PM PDT

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  •  only now? (4+ / 0-)
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    Because the cities are getting hotter as the climate changes, residents are increasingly investing in aircon systems − which discharge heat from offices and apartment blocks straight into the city air. And the vicious circle effect is that cities get still warmer, making air conditioning all the more attractive to residents.

    According to scientists at Arizona State University, the air conditioning system is now having a measurable effect. During the days, the systems emit waste heat, but because the days are hot anyway, the difference is negligible. At night, heat from air conditioning systems now raises some urban temperatures by more than 1°C, they report in the Journal of Geophysical Research Atmospheres.

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 09:08:37 PM PDT

    •  Because it's now warmer at night some... (4+ / 0-)
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      ...places, meaning people leave their a/c on when they didn't in the past.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 09:39:17 PM PDT

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      •  understood but IIRC HVAC effects have been (4+ / 0-)

        studied as long as air quality and my quibble is with the measuring not the phenomena of increased use

        Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

        by annieli on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 09:46:41 PM PDT

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      •  The average conservative (0+ / 0-)

        The average conservative can't figure out why your house doesn't get cooler if you just run the refrigerator with the door open...

      •  But *why* do they *need* to leave the a/c on? (1+ / 0-)
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        The obvious answer is "because it's hot out", but why is it hot out at night? Phoenix is in the desert, and in the desert what's normal is to go from searing heat in the day to bone-chilling cold at night.

        So the answer must be that the city is retaining more heat at night than the undeveloped desert would.

        Now I don't have a lot of experience with Phoenix, other than flying into Sky Harbor on the way to northern Arizona, but smaller desert towns have tarmac and concrete and all that heat-retaining stuff, but they still get very chilly at night.  And it can't be the a/c that's causing this, because people don't use the a/c until the problem exists.  Of course that a/c makes the problem worse once you have it hardly is worth mentioning; that's just physics.

        Again, some environmentally conscious Phoenixer can probably shed more informed light on this, but if I were to hazard a guess I'd say that human misuse of water is increasing the local humidity.   I've seen that at other desert cities, like Palm Springs with all its golf courses and landscaping.  I'm not so familiar with any desert city quite as large as Phoenix, but I'd guess the impact of human water use in a huge city is correspondingly huger.

        Water is a powerful greenhouse gas, although unlike CO2 it doesn't persist in the atmosphere --  in most places humidity goes up and down wildly.  Water acts like a blanket at night to keep all that thermal energy the Sun pumped into the land from radiating back into space.  But in the natural desert, there's very little water in the atmosphere, so even in very hot natural deserts tend to be quite cool at night. The temperatures in the Sahara for example can drop by over 90F from mid-day to nighttime.

        But when you have a big city in the desert, it's continually pumping water into the air: from landscaping and combustion of fossil fuels.  In a desert that's going to create levels of humidity which are consistently higher than natural, and that means nighttime temperatures that are consistently higher than natural too.

        I've lost my faith in nihilism

        by grumpynerd on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 05:13:12 AM PDT

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  •  Here's how I operate my AC here in Phoenix; (7+ / 0-)

    I turn it on at about 1:30 PM when the interior temp hits 90F. I have it set at 84F which I find very comfortable - from about 2:00 to 6:00 PM is the hottest part of the day. I usually shut it off at about 7:00 PM, even though the outside temp stays in the mid 90s until about midnight. It cools to the low 80s overnight, I have a fan in the window which blows the cooler air inside. I use this system because I try to have as small a 'footprint' as I can, and I get by - even though it gets somewhat uncomfortable at times, hey that's life.

    It blew me away about a week ago on the local evening news, they had a segment on how to save money on your energy bill; and they showed a family of five how they could save hundreds merely by turning their AC temp from 68F to 72F!

    "Just because we have the best hammer does not mean that every problem is a nail." - My President

    by Fordmandalay on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 09:12:12 PM PDT

  •  A heartwarming tale (2+ / 0-)
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    Always more rents to be extracted!

    When Dan Weissman worked at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and, later, at a hedge fund, he didn’t have to worry about methamphetamine addicts chasing his employees with metal pipes. Or SWAT teams barging into his workplace looking for arsonists.

    Both things have happened since he left Wall Street and bought five mobile home parks: four in Texas and one in Indiana. Yet he says he’s never been so relaxed in his life, Bloomberg Markets magazine will report in its May issue.

    If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers. - Thomas Pynchon

    by chuckvw on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 09:46:04 PM PDT

  •  A great Single Payer video. It rocks! (3+ / 0-)
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    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 09:49:01 PM PDT

  •  I saw that story about A/C heating up Phoenix. (4+ / 0-)
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    They've already got the Heat Island thing going downtown, but when you add in all the industrial size A/C for hotels and office buildings and such, I'm sure it makes a difference.

    The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

    by Azazello on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 10:09:36 PM PDT

  •  Latest (afaik) on the Las Vegas shooters (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/...

    They were planning to be in it for the long haul, and may have been planning to attack a courthouse and "execute public officials." Glad they were so incompetent in their "revolution."

    The couple may have been planning a larger assault on an unidentified court building.

    Police found documents the couple left behind ... that included detailed plans to take over an unidentified courthouse and execute public officials. The file box full of documents, along with three empty rifle cases and an empty box for handcuffs, were confiscated by officers, who used an explosive charge to blow open an apartment door in the Millers’ complex.

    Reports of the killers’ plans prompted officials at the Regional Justice Center to adopt “a heightened state of security,” with added personnel and “other measures,” said Court Information Officer Mary Ann Price. She declined to say more because “part of our preparedness is not giving out a lot of details.”

    Though the only known assailants are dead, valley police also have reacted with caution. Metro and Henderson police are both doubling up with two officers in each patrol car. Metro is also putting plain-clothes officers in uniform as a show of force and solidarity.

    But hey, they acted alone ...

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    by jan4insight on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 10:12:23 PM PDT

  •  I'd like to know progress on any "green" air (4+ / 0-)

    conditioning for buildings. I'm aware of the old stuff, like using running water, positioning buildings correctly for air currents, etc. I know that there is some genius inventor(s)
    out there right now who'll come out with some radical new method. It'd sure help this planet out.

    I don't like to install my air conditioner and resist it as long as possible, but I notice as I get older and our low-slung house doesn't get any cooler, that I have to start using it when even two fans on my puss 24 hours a day make no difference and my body heats up alarmingly. Ditto my wife.
    Yes, I have gone to a Starbucks and sat there for hours waiting till it "cools off." (Some nights it doesn't till about five in the morning and I haven't been able to sleep for hours.)

    "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

    by Wildthumb on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 10:19:45 PM PDT

    •  Well, the old way to deal with it (3+ / 0-)
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      was to build houses with windows that went from about a foot from the floor to about a foot from the ceiling. These were placed in line through the house. Anywhere there was a wall with a door, there was a window, called a transom, over the door. There were also attics over the living area that were made with windows that opened.  If one set all doors and windows open, opened the transoms inside, and opened the attic windows, the house "breathed" a current of air , sucking it in the ground floor and exhaling out the attic windows.  They used awnings to keep sunlight out of windows.

      Of course, today transoms are against fire code and people just don't build houses like that.

      Help me get my utilities on! I can't eat this elephant by myself. http://www.gofundme.com/8xw014

      by Alexandra Lynch on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 12:06:14 AM PDT

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  •  True about cities being hotter. (3+ / 0-)
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    When I lived in Manhattan, there was a noticeable drop in temperature just going into Central Park: and not just in the shade, either!

    I think it was the Daily News that in the 1990s sent reporters to several different corners to check the actual on-the-sidewalk temps on a hot day. MUCH higher than the official temps (taken, btw, at Belvidere Castle in Central Park). The highest was, iirc, around 113 on Madison Ave. or thereabouts.

    Here, they take the "official" temp at the airport. Which is surrounded by unpaved surfaces. Downtown, where I live and work, it is frequently higher.

    But I don't live in the desert, and so far I'm unwilling to trade my box fans for a/c.

    English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

    by Youffraita on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 10:42:42 PM PDT

  •  swamp cooler - solar powered (2+ / 0-)
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    Using the sun to cool ones house.
    And if the building were an apartment building it could be part of the design installed on the roof with the solar panels; or any single dwelling too

    Or this emergency home built job if it's just too hot to sleep
    ..kind of goofy but in a pinch..? I've made versions of this when one of my sisters lived in Socorro awhile back. Doing the remodel was just too hot without it some days.

    Because this:

    At present, 87% of US households have air conditioning, and the US – which is not one of the warmer nations – uses more electricity to keep cool than all the other countries of the world combined.
    ..that's huge. A lot of savings with solar replacing and breaking the "vicious-circle effect"

    Thx MB

    •  TANSTAAFL, unfortunately: (1+ / 0-)
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      There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

      In order to "freeze the water in a big plastic pail" as the coolant, heat must be removed from the water-turning-to-ice--and that heat gets dumped into the ambient air. Which is exactly the same thing an A/C unit does, only in real time. Roughly 95% of whatever energy saving comes from running the fan on solar power could be obtained by feeding the same solar-derived electricity into the household grid to help power the A/C unit.

      At best this system might save energy if the ice is produced when the ambient air is coolest (i.e., at night) & then used for cooling when it's hottest out. How much savings depends on how much energy it takes to produce the ice at the cooler temperature and then keep the ice frozen until it's used, compared with the real-time transfer via standard A/C.

      If you want to cool your home without dumping the heat into the ambient air, you need to find some other place to dump it. The obvious candidate is >2 m underground (where even in AZ the temperature is a year-round 75-80 F) via ground-source heat pumping. This saves ~30% on A/C bills but requires a long stretch of piping underground to allow the working fluid to transfer the heat-- either a lot of surface excavated down to the 2 m level where a "slinky" can be spread, or the drilling of a series of fairly deep (>50 m) wells for vertical traverse when acreage is lacking. Either is an expensive process.

      The bumpersticker I want: THE LEFT IS RIGHT! THE RIGHT IS WRONG! THE FAR RIGHT IS FAR WRONG!

      by Uncle Cosmo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 07:39:35 AM PDT

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      •  .."kind of goofy" on the ice chest because yes.. (0+ / 0-)

        ..that requires compressing gas (R-134A eg.).

         But the old fashioned 'swamp cooling, I was referring to is evaporative cooling; just the running of a fan and uses 75%  less energy than regular AC: compressor, a condenser and an evaporator which is compressing R-134A. and that takes more energy and produces / heat/ during the compressing process hence, adding to the  "vicious-circle effect" explained in the article posted in the Diary

        With a swamp cooling system it's just evaporation without the compressing and decompressing of a gas. It's just using the cooling properties of evaporating water.

        So a swamp cooler will work best in dry hot dry areas, but no running of a compressor pump, just a small fan.
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        So yeah the ice chest was just something I put up because I rigged a silly thing like that up during a blistering hot spell in Socorro NM during a job.

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